USA Put A Nuclear Reactor In Space And Abandoned It - How Did It Work?

  Рет қаралды 234,072

Scott Manley

Scott Manley

14 күн бұрын

In the early days of the US Space program there was a parallel nuclear power program to develop the nuclear power technologies needed for spaceflight. The Space Nuclear Auxiliary Power (SNAP) program worked on both isotope decay generators and fully operational fission reactors. And while several spacecraft have been launched to other planets using radio isotope generators, the US only launched one fully operational test reactor - SNAP 10A which operated according to predictions from ground tests. Until the host spacecraft failed 40 days into the mission.
While the concept was proven, no mission could be matched to the capabilities and no other test reactors have been flown by the USA.
(The Soviet Union on the other hand flew several)
Follow me on Twitter for more updates:
/ djsnm
I have a discord server where I regularly turn up:
/ discord
If you really like what I do you can support me directly through Patreon
/ scottmanley

Пікірлер: 869
@yyyy-uv3po
@yyyy-uv3po 13 күн бұрын
I swear sometimes 1960s tech still looks futuristic.
@kylebeatty7643
@kylebeatty7643 13 күн бұрын
In my case, I would call it the Johnny quest effect. One exception here is the aluminum baking pan being used to cook fuel rods.
@LuciFeric137
@LuciFeric137 13 күн бұрын
The modern era was mostly invented by 1946. Mankind peaked in 1969. Everything since is derivative.
@miguelmouta5372
@miguelmouta5372 13 күн бұрын
@@LuciFeric137Better say it started a bit earlier with Sir Isaac Newton.
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 13 күн бұрын
@LuciFeric137 I’m assuming you’re Gen Z and are just unaware of all the developments in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
@LordFalconsword
@LordFalconsword 13 күн бұрын
Because we abandoned all our dreams for 50 years.
@sirjohniv
@sirjohniv 13 күн бұрын
Excuse me, sir! Can you direct me to the naval base in Alameda? It's where they keep the nuclear wessels
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 13 күн бұрын
Nuclear Weasels.
@kotori87gaming89
@kotori87gaming89 13 күн бұрын
I think it's in Alameda!
@lordneeko
@lordneeko 13 күн бұрын
Classic!
@wolfecanada6726
@wolfecanada6726 13 күн бұрын
"Everybody remember where we parked!"
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki 13 күн бұрын
Double dumbass on you!
@blurr220
@blurr220 13 күн бұрын
TIL that there is a nuclear reactor that isn't powerful enough to power my pc. I don't know what which one it says more about, but it says something.
@volvo09
@volvo09 13 күн бұрын
500W from 30kw is pretty darn bad!
@eeengineer8851
@eeengineer8851 13 күн бұрын
@@volvo09 Yes. I wonder how much better it could be with more modern stuff? Thermocouples don't generate a lot of voltage for the heat differential either.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb 13 күн бұрын
A normal PC draws far less than 500 W. Do you have some extra powerful gaming computer?
@db1481
@db1481 13 күн бұрын
@@eeengineer8851 I'd imagine it's an experimental design thing. Spacecraft engineers are allergic to moving parts as their reliability is inherently poorer than fixed structures. The experiment in this case was to demonstrate reliable reactor control in the space environment so I'd imagine they were averse to the risk of not completing that demonstration by including a heat engine of any sort and particularly not a fast-spinning Rankine cycle turbine like Scott discusses. Such a heat engine would've been responsible for cooling the reactor in addition to generating electricity so it's not something you can just tack on as an afterthought. That said, current developments such as NASA's Kilopower experiment focus on integrated solutions for heat generation, electricity conversion, and cooling. The Stirling generator used with the KRUSTY reactor is vastly more efficient than the thermoelectric generator used on SNAP (and also in the radiothermal generators commonly in use). The demonstrated reliability is getting there and it's possible we'll see radiothermal Stirling generators on the next generation of space probes in advance of a reactor application.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb 13 күн бұрын
@@eeengineer8851 0,5/30 kW is 1,7 % el. efficiency. The RTG on the Perseverance rover (launched in 2020) is at 5,5 % but that's not better than the old Voyager probes from the 70s so not much has happened in that field in 40 years.
@TheStormpilgrim
@TheStormpilgrim 12 күн бұрын
"So, what do you want to launch on this mission?" "A nuclear reactor with 93% enriched uranium." "Huh. That's pretty rich. How do you plan to cool that?" "Highly reactive alkali metals." "Hmm. Interesting choice. And your going to get it up there how?" "With a crap-ton of highly corrosive, hypergolic rocket fuel, of course!" "Solid choice. Hey...is that your car?" "Yeah! Just bought it. It's a Corvair!" "ARE YOU MAD?! THAT THING'S A DEATHTRAP!!!"
@anncodec
@anncodec 9 күн бұрын
Let the open bidding begin.
@mgancarzjr
@mgancarzjr 8 күн бұрын
"Hi, I'm from Rocketdyne. Can I interest you in our tripropellant rocket engine? It burns a mixture of liquid lithium, gaseous hydrogen, and liquid fluorine. The exhaust corrodes glass - an added bonus."
@marklarma4781
@marklarma4781 3 күн бұрын
@@mgancarzjryou forgot the most important part. It’s incredibly efficient.
@doncogswell9596
@doncogswell9596 13 күн бұрын
My father worked for Atomics International and worked on the SNAP 10A as a design engineer. He said it was an engineering marvel.
@daszieher
@daszieher 12 күн бұрын
It still looks like one when seen from 2024!
@crbielert
@crbielert 11 күн бұрын
I'd be inclined to agree. In that assembly footage, you can even see how the reflector modules hinge so they could be flipped away from the core in the event you need to perform emergency shutdown. Amazing to miniaturize something like a reactor that much, back then and today.
@scottmedwid1818
@scottmedwid1818 10 күн бұрын
My father worked it, NASA Lewis in Cleveland and the Plumbrook nuclear test center in Sandusky Ohio. He was working on the SNAP-8DR heat exchanger and turbo alternator power system. we went out to California a couple of times in the late 60s when he was testing at Atomic International.
@davyaldy76
@davyaldy76 12 күн бұрын
Scott I recently flew from Perth to Sydney, stayed a week and came back yesterday. On a couple of occasions I saw a group of pilots, all men, talking and as I walked past them I said, "Fly safe gentlemen." That is your influence on me.
@i-love-space390
@i-love-space390 13 күн бұрын
I love all of those cool retro space animations. They were much cooler than the latest computer animation we have today.
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot 13 күн бұрын
And many of the projects actually got built!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 12 күн бұрын
All of those old government training films had good artwork and explained things very well, stuff like how an engine works, etc.
@liam3284
@liam3284 9 күн бұрын
That's because artists were paid and given time to make that stuff. Today is far more rushed.
@Neverwinterx
@Neverwinterx 13 күн бұрын
7:35 Plasma wind tunnels? That brought me to interesting web pages.
@redshot9616
@redshot9616 13 күн бұрын
uhhh what pages?
@anteshell
@anteshell 13 күн бұрын
You're not supposed to Gawkle every new word you see on Internet.
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 13 күн бұрын
We need an episode on this topic.
@redshot9616
@redshot9616 13 күн бұрын
@@anteshell uhhh what Is he talking about
@jonathanchester5916
@jonathanchester5916 12 күн бұрын
Is that like a giant dragon coughing ?
@LordDustinDeWynd
@LordDustinDeWynd 13 күн бұрын
6:36 Yep, and lighthouses used mercury to provide frictionless "bearings" for the lenses, back when.
@ekij133
@ekij133 13 күн бұрын
Some of those older lighthouses still do. It's 'safer' to leave the mercury where it is, in the lighthouse than to try and remove it. A bit like if you have mercury fillings, you're going to ingest more mercury in the process of replacing the filling than you are just leaving it alone.
@Josh_728
@Josh_728 13 күн бұрын
@@ekij133 M-m-mercury fillings? 😶
@LordDustinDeWynd
@LordDustinDeWynd 13 күн бұрын
@@Josh_728 old school
@ekij133
@ekij133 13 күн бұрын
@@Josh_728 Mercury Silver amalgam fillings. Very common 20+ years ago. A good balance of hard, stable and not brittle. They also used to put lead in gasoline to improve combustion and lead in paint to stop if fading.
@alexandermathar7780
@alexandermathar7780 13 күн бұрын
This is the true Basis of all the creepy stories of lighthouse keepers going crazy. Oh that delicious methyl mercury !
@willamcombs1106
@willamcombs1106 12 күн бұрын
My Dad worked at Aerojet General in Azusa, Ca. in the late 50's through the 60's. He worked on the Snap 8 project and I remember him talking about it using liquid NAK and highly pure hydrogen peroxide. I remember him talking about the danger using some of the chemicals used in the construction. I know He also worked on NERVA and the Mark 14 torpedo while at Aerojet General. Seeing your video brought back some fond memories of my late Father. Thank You.
@BackYardScience2000
@BackYardScience2000 10 күн бұрын
I wonder how the NaK and H2O2 worked in the Snap 8? The NaK is extremely reactive and will explode if any moisture contacts it, especially if H2O2 contacts it. They'd have to be in totally different systems within the item and far away from one another to keep any potential accidents from completely destroying everything. I have videos on my channel showing what NaK does in water if you're curious.
@syn3rax
@syn3rax 13 күн бұрын
I gotta say the AI upscaling on this archival footage looks *real* bad.
@r3dn0w
@r3dn0w 13 күн бұрын
Yeah, it doesn't look very "I" - if it is supposed to be AI.
@randbarrett8706
@randbarrett8706 13 күн бұрын
I dont notice anything, is the video footage from 60 years ago supposed to look better?
@tico5602
@tico5602 13 күн бұрын
@@randbarrett8706if you look at the details, they all get distorted in someway, structures are wobbling.
@mjfan653
@mjfan653 13 күн бұрын
Well, film originally is cinema quality. But, for TV and now digital media that film was scanned. And often with archival footage, it was scanned in 1995 with 1984 tech. And then compressed when wandering the internet. That's why we often get 360p quality videos from things that were originally crisp enough for HD or more.
@syn3rax
@syn3rax 12 күн бұрын
@@mjfan653 okay sure, but then it was upscaled using AI and it looks *worse*. You look at that satellite dish at 11:32 and tell me that looks better than a 360p video
@rnedisc
@rnedisc 13 күн бұрын
When you say "the (1960s) scientists weren't even done yet" I was honestly expeting you to tell us they were planning on using liquid fluoride as a coolent or some shit like that, lol.
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 13 күн бұрын
not dilithium crystals like in Startrek ?
@KatanamasterV
@KatanamasterV 13 күн бұрын
Alexander the ok fan?
@dannypipewrench533
@dannypipewrench533 12 күн бұрын
If only they did. I am sure breeder reactors will follow, but it would be nice just to get any nuclear reactor up right now.
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 12 күн бұрын
Please no fluorine coolant, that sounds at least as dangerous as the nuclear fuel.
@daszieher
@daszieher 12 күн бұрын
​@@absalomdraconisnuclear fuel isn't dangerous. It only has a few properties that in proximity are harmful to organisms. In my view, the word "dangerous" is over-used and usually intended to incite fear.
@Kelnx
@Kelnx 13 күн бұрын
Great job on the explanations here. As a nuclear guy, I'm always surprised at how many science content creators get just basic reactor stuff wrong. Yes, absolutely, nuclear geometry is VERY important in reactor design. Not only to achieve criticality, but also for safety and control. I find it interesting that they had hafnium in the fuel cladding. Hafnium is a big (BIG) neutron absorber and is often used in control rods to reduce neutron flux and "slow a reactor's roll" so to speak. Or shut it down by inserting all or a certain group of control rods into a core (aka SCRAM). Normally hafnium and zirconium are found together in nature, and to use zirconium in fuel cladding (Zircalloy, the most common type) the hafnium has to be processed out so it doesn't inhibit fission. Maybe they allowed some small amount of hafnium to act as a neutron poison? I'm not sure. It seems like with such a small mass of U-235, they wouldn't really want a poison. Then again, maybe just removing the reflectors wouldn't be enough to quickly shutdown this little core without a preexisting poison in the fuel cladding. I'd like to know more about this. All I remember from all of the materials stuff I had to study in school is that hafnium = bad in fuel cladding.
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot 13 күн бұрын
Light Water Reactors use high neutron cross section materials such as boron or gadolinium as burnable poisons fabricated as discrete rods or mixed with the fuel to compensate for the high reactivity of a brand new core. Being highly absorbent of neutrons, they deplete somewhat quickly as fission products build up to add negative reactivity. The designer might have selected hafnium because the core was quite compact, high initial enrichment as well as materials concerns such as melting point and compatibility with the NaK coolant. My “Chart of the Nuclides” (no REAL Nuclear Nerd should ever be without it) is boxed in the garage. Maybe I’ll dig it out and see if which isotopes of hafnium they might have used.
@gizmophoto3577
@gizmophoto3577 12 күн бұрын
A poison could also be used for power shaping, though it might be easier to vary enrichment of the fuel elements in a design like this.
@marshja56
@marshja56 12 күн бұрын
Actually there was NO hafnium in the cladding. Scott got the composition of Hastelloy-N wrong. He said he believed it was hafnium and tungsten but actually it is a nickel based superalloy that does not have any hafnium at all. As you noted hafnium is a neutron poison and using it in the clad would have meant this reactor would be have been able to go critical.
@kylebeatty7643
@kylebeatty7643 13 күн бұрын
"plasma wind tunnel" just casually thrown out there
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 12 күн бұрын
No home should be without one . . .
@kylebeatty7643
@kylebeatty7643 12 күн бұрын
"A household disintegrator beam!" -Fobidden Planet
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid 12 күн бұрын
1:54 I can relate. What I find critical about myself is also less the mass and more the geometry!
@senorelroboto2
@senorelroboto2 13 күн бұрын
Hastelloy is one of the nickel based superalloys like inconel
@christophermarin9125
@christophermarin9125 12 күн бұрын
Thank you, you beat me to it!
@billpotmesil
@billpotmesil 10 күн бұрын
Did Scott call it Hastium? I have heard of Unobtainium, but never Hastium.
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 10 күн бұрын
I have heard of it in the GregTech Minecraft mod. It apparently takes a long time to make.
@rkstealth7699
@rkstealth7699 13 күн бұрын
AI upscaling can be spooky sometimes
@joepeck2942
@joepeck2942 12 күн бұрын
AI tends to create things as if it were on LSD
@nokbeen3654
@nokbeen3654 13 күн бұрын
This isnt AI upscale, this is evidently AI downscale. My god, At First I thought I had done acid.
@TheBackyardChemist
@TheBackyardChemist 13 күн бұрын
Period correct for the 1960's
@randomnickify
@randomnickify 13 күн бұрын
AIcid 😅
@jamesogden7756
@jamesogden7756 12 күн бұрын
​@@randomnickifyThat sounds scary AF. 😂😂
@root42
@root42 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, great video, terrible upscaling. Just give us the original footage! :)
@pavuk357
@pavuk357 9 күн бұрын
​@@TheBackyardChemistno it isn't. It is just old and very crappy film digitalisation. There is likely original film somewhere in the archives, just nobody bothers to scan it. It is 80s that look bad because most of the stuff was captured on magnetic tape at 480i top and degraded through the years.
@johncashwell1024
@johncashwell1024 13 күн бұрын
You do know, there is a fusion reactor in space already. It's been there for years...
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 13 күн бұрын
It is awkwardly located for a large swath of missions, though.
@KevinT3141
@KevinT3141 13 күн бұрын
​@@CptJistuceAlthough hundreds of missions are already using it successfully.
@LuciFeric137
@LuciFeric137 13 күн бұрын
Shhhhh. Practical fusion is just a few years away...
@MeteorMark
@MeteorMark 13 күн бұрын
Only one? 🤔
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 13 күн бұрын
@@KevinT3141 I did not say it was useless, just that it is not suitable for a lot of missions. It doesn't work on the dark side of the moon, or out past the asteroid belt most of the time(Juno manages to use it, but there's some comically large power capture equipment needed to make the reactor usable)
@csdn4483
@csdn4483 12 күн бұрын
A lot of people don't realize how pervasive the SNAPs were. Most people don't realize this, but when Neil Armstrong left the Lunar Module for the first time, he was actually going out to grab the plutonium rod for their SNAP and move it from one leg of the lander over into the SNAP to begin powering the Lunar Module.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 12 күн бұрын
You are in error. The LEM was not powered by the SNAP, it was the ALSEP package that was started on Apollo 12.
@csdn4483
@csdn4483 12 күн бұрын
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom which created its electricity by way of a SNAP/RTG. Dig a little deeper, you'll see that it was a SNAP effectively providing the power.
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 12 күн бұрын
@@csdn4483 Yes, that one and most of the SNAPs were RTGs, not reactors like the one in the video.
@csdn4483
@csdn4483 12 күн бұрын
@@zolikoff SNAP stands for Space Nuclear Auxiliary Power. There were a large number of SNAP designs, a fair number of them RTGs. However, they're all revered to as being a SNAP. Having received my degree in Nuclear Engineering, several of my professors talked about various ways of producing power from nuclear means. One of my professors actually worked on Kiwi/NERVA. This also lend to the various SNAP designs, but the thing to realize is this: NASA called anything, even an RTG, a SNAP.
@nzoomed
@nzoomed 9 күн бұрын
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Correct, it was an RTG, not an actual reactor.
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 13 күн бұрын
For any space applications past Mars or in cold temperatures on Mars and the Moon, heat from the reactor is as valuable as the electricity.
@thomasdarcio7143
@thomasdarcio7143 13 күн бұрын
IA image treatment is highly disturbing. Honestly, would have been FAR better to just put out a clean slideshow in there ....
@chrismofer
@chrismofer 12 күн бұрын
Would take the original frame rate and resolution of the scan every single time over AI hallucinations.
@wattsmichaele
@wattsmichaele 11 күн бұрын
Yeah…if it was real
@somerandomnification
@somerandomnification 11 күн бұрын
I completely agree.
@chadportenga7858
@chadportenga7858 13 күн бұрын
13:00 Love the hand drawn "animations" they used to use.
@Mrcometo
@Mrcometo 13 күн бұрын
1:30 Ah, the good old times, when you worked with beryllium with no face mask and putting the fuel rods using simple gloves...
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 13 күн бұрын
The fuel rod assembly is done with simple gloves today. Natural and even highly enriched uranium isn't radioactive enough before its undergone fission and criticality to bother with shielding.
@jeromethiel4323
@jeromethiel4323 13 күн бұрын
​@@Muonium1 Uranium is an alpha emitter, perfectly safe to handle with gloves, as you stated. Now, the toxicity of the metals themselves, different story. Plutonium, for example, is toxic as hell, so the danger isn't the radiation, it's the simple fact it's poisonous.
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 12 күн бұрын
@jeromethiel4323 most of the danger from plutonium is the radiotoxicity though. Ingested high activity alpha emitters are HIGHLY dangerous.
@TankR
@TankR 12 күн бұрын
Smoking was good for you too, back then. It wasnt until colors came along that everything started becoming dangerous.....Things were much simpler when the world was black and white.....Why does everyone look mad? What did I say? Im just trying to say that when colors were introduced everything became crappier all around!!! STOP YELLING AT ME, IM RIGHT!!!! hrm? Hold on I cant hear my friend, Tyrone. What Tyrone? ...... Thats not what I was sayin at all! Did you think...umhm...Exactly, no rational person....what...........Yeah, no kidding. The scary part is these people are allowed to have drivers licenses too.....Fuck it, lets leave these kneejerk bigots to their little mind games. Wanna invite Sally over for dinner, Carol hasnt seen your wife in a while I think shed love catching up.......[walks away with Tyrone ....whos white. Because white people can be named Tyrone too. Our token black guy is named Steve, hes the guy in the back laughing his ass off....and our designated driver. If we're gonna drink, he doesnt want us to drive.... Good guy, that Steve.]
@JPMadden
@JPMadden 12 күн бұрын
This was back when the U.S. was still conducting nuclear tests as part of "Project Plowshare," one of the worst ideas in modern human history. The idea was to use nuclear explosions to excavate civilian construction projects. One proposed use was to expand an underground aquifer so that the then-irradiated water could be accessed for irrigating crops for human consumption. Others included using many bombs to dig second canals in Panama and Suez. Genius! Thankfully, they never did anything besides testing. I'm always mystified why it took humanity at least 20 years after 1945 to comprehend that nuclear fallout was unhealthy.
@mvg2993
@mvg2993 13 күн бұрын
What is going on with the faces and fingers in the clips after 2:00? Is there AI coloring going on here? It looks very odd.
@thetoasterisonfire2080
@thetoasterisonfire2080 13 күн бұрын
It is an ai filter that is upscaleing and increasing the framerate of the original video. Although doing a poor job.
@mvg2993
@mvg2993 13 күн бұрын
@@thetoasterisonfire2080 oh that's a shame. I'd 100x rather look at low-frame rate low resolution originals than whatever this AI is making :(
@lordneeko
@lordneeko 13 күн бұрын
​@@mvg2993no you wouldn't... You wouldn't be able to see any of the details on your high resolution device
@georgeau2523
@georgeau2523 13 күн бұрын
I wasn't sure if I was under the effect of drugs or if it was some AI editing
@thetoasterisonfire2080
@thetoasterisonfire2080 13 күн бұрын
@mvg2993 If you get the settings right and let it cook long enough it can produce good results. But this is especially crusty.
@tomsteuverkb8dxn132
@tomsteuverkb8dxn132 13 күн бұрын
I worked at the facility that probably refined the uranium and made the fuel rods. It was a DOE site near Cincinnati called FMPC (Feed Materials Production Center).
@michaelwilliams2593
@michaelwilliams2593 12 күн бұрын
6:28 Love the architecture of the Vandenberg entry gate
@samedwards6683
@samedwards6683 7 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for creating and sharing this informative video. Great job. Keep it up.
@tachyonmkg55414
@tachyonmkg55414 12 күн бұрын
good video as always but the AI upscaling on the old footage looks absolutely awful
@kristensorensen2219
@kristensorensen2219 13 күн бұрын
This tiny reactor is quite something! Thanks for sharing this with us!💛
@BusstterNutt
@BusstterNutt 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work in making these excellent videos.
@nickprince7971
@nickprince7971 13 күн бұрын
I love these stories, Scott. Please never stop.
@apostolakisl
@apostolakisl 12 күн бұрын
Love your history of space/rocketry videos. Well done!
@michaelsershen5702
@michaelsershen5702 12 күн бұрын
Hastelloy is a nickel based superalloy. It was one of the first superalloys developed, primarily for use in jet turbine blades.
@dossantos9389
@dossantos9389 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for ripping this story out of the darkness of history 😊
@TankR
@TankR 12 күн бұрын
Its not a secret. There is an entire group of wiki pages outlining the entire SNAP program. Not having heard of something before does not mean its a deep dark secret. And may of the 'facts' implied in this video are quite wrong. I highly encourage you read the SNAP 10 wiki for yourself. Its quite interesting, and a great example of a reactor designed to fail safely and it did. Then got hit by russian space junk....😒
@kelseyduerksen6404
@kelseyduerksen6404 13 күн бұрын
Thanks Scott, for pronouncing "niche" correctly.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 13 күн бұрын
Fascinating history indeed! Thanks, Scott! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@gcm4312
@gcm4312 13 күн бұрын
exceptional video. this was super interesting!
@renanmonteirobarbosa8129
@renanmonteirobarbosa8129 13 күн бұрын
The research was not abandoned, just slowed waiting for a brighter future to emerge
@elmofeneken4364
@elmofeneken4364 12 күн бұрын
Great video Scott. I don't know of anybody else who would enlighten us with topics of space interest like this that don't quite have the entertainment value some space fans look to see.
@chuckaddison5134
@chuckaddison5134 11 күн бұрын
Interesting video, I lived through most all of this and don't recall much of it ever getting into the news. But then when NASA publically announced that they were going to launch a reactor, there were demonstrations.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 10 күн бұрын
Great video, Scott...👍
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 12 күн бұрын
Scott, since you mentioned the Soviet spacecraft, maybe you can do a video on the one that crashed in Canada in the 70s and basically scattered its reactor core over the northern wilderness.
@davesextraneousinformation9807
@davesextraneousinformation9807 12 күн бұрын
Hey Scott, thanks for this history episode. I really enjoy them. This gives me a chance to relate a story my Dad told me. He worked for the company that built the first ion engine that was flown into space. I don't remember that it went up with the Snap reactor. The company was Electro Optical Systems, EOS, in Pasadena California. The ion engine was built under a contract from MIT, or some university like that. Like you said, when the engine was in space and turned on for testing, the high voltage power supply arced and shorted out. The power supply was in some kind of sealed container that kept some of the air inside. Ground testing showed no problems because air is a good insulator at atmospheric pressure. In flight, the container leaked sir down to a pressure where the air ionized when the power supply was turned on Lesson learned; next engine had ports to bleed out the air. Twenty or so years ago I went online to search for any information on the engine. I think the Smithsonian had a copy of it. Plus, they had an experimental ion engine made by Dr. Robert Goddard. It seems that the concept for an ion engine has been around for a long time!
@emlinder
@emlinder 12 күн бұрын
Very interesting as usual! Have you considered doing some videos looking at the development and use of RTGs in spaceflight?
@andrewfidel2220
@andrewfidel2220 13 күн бұрын
I think the risk of unintentional contamination from leaking mercury coolant would easily be offset by higher efficiency in coal fired power plants since coal contains lead, mercury, uranium, etc. which were all released as part of the normal operation of the plants. My favorite rebuttal for anti-nuclear crazies is that they did nothing about coal plants, each or which put more radioactive contamination into the environment each year than all Western accidents did total over more than half a century of operations.
@05Matz
@05Matz 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, coal is just... so awful it's hard to express how much better basically anything else is. Even other fossil fuels, and those are still terrible! Bits of random heavy metals (including the radioactive ones) scattered everywhere over a wide area, acid rain, not to mention the global warming. But it's so cheap you're not allowed to criticize it unless you have a replacement that's _perfect in every way_ ...
@bewilderbeestie
@bewilderbeestie 11 күн бұрын
IIRC, coal plants world-wide put about one Chernobyl-worth of nuclear material into the atmosphere each year.
@brettwoodard167
@brettwoodard167 12 күн бұрын
That was pretty interesting, thanks Scott.
@dwhite1940
@dwhite1940 12 күн бұрын
Hey thanks for the info, more than I ever knew. I worked at SLC4 for Lockheed at the time and spent many months preparing for the launch. Mostly I worked the ground telemetry systems and the SNAP was different than any other program, the telemetry as I recall was PAM instead of the usual at that time which was FM/FM with commutators. Lots of overtime. Lots of different sensors on the pad to make sure nothing was leaking and we all wore radiation badges. I was just a kid so fun for me. Thanks.
@tbjtbj7930
@tbjtbj7930 13 күн бұрын
Scott Manley: Notice how big the radiators have to be in space. Stanley Kubrick: Nope.
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot 13 күн бұрын
Just before the first view of the space station in 2001, there is a view of a satellite with large panels that appear to be radiators.
@user-ob7cx6bb7r
@user-ob7cx6bb7r 12 күн бұрын
Yes, major shift from book to movie in regards to this.On another note, how about the spartan PPE for the technicians.
@mfshill
@mfshill 13 күн бұрын
The upscaling/ai? on the old videos is really really bad. would have been better off leaving them as is.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 13 күн бұрын
Needs a hard limiter keeping the output pixels within the absolute min/max range of the input pixels closest to each output pixel, with the limit triggering fed back to the NN as a strong error condition .
@briansilver9652
@briansilver9652 13 күн бұрын
Thermocouples or Thermopiles? From my memory Thermocouples are used for millivolt temp measurement while Thermopiles can be used to generate a usable power for low power devices. I guess with enough in series/parallel you could power anything?
@scottmanley
@scottmanley 13 күн бұрын
Thermopiles are made up of lots of thermocouples
@quantumblur_3145
@quantumblur_3145 13 күн бұрын
It's a pile of couples, otherwise known as a rhermopolycule
@DrVort
@DrVort 13 күн бұрын
It is also kind of terribly inefficient
@volvo09
@volvo09 13 күн бұрын
​@@DrVort I wonder if they are similar to the "power pile generators" in gas furnaces used to keep the gas valve open. They make a few milliamps.
@DrVort
@DrVort 13 күн бұрын
@@volvo09 I have no idea about a particular appliance you are talking about, but yeah, they are weak, inefficient, convert to electric potential any thermal potential directly ^^ It's just two metals with particular chemistry that make this effect. I guess many of modern portable coolers use similar process, but in reverse.
@bwjclego
@bwjclego 12 күн бұрын
"Launched into a high stable orbit for safety" vs "Soviets used reactors in low orbit for drag reasons" is a hilarious juxtaposition.
@liam3284
@liam3284 9 күн бұрын
The USSR had a terrible environmental record.
@jeffcox4538
@jeffcox4538 9 күн бұрын
What great history! Thank you Scotty! Amazing science.
@josephpiskac2781
@josephpiskac2781 12 күн бұрын
That is really great stuff THANKS.
@ztyy8185
@ztyy8185 12 күн бұрын
Superb video Scott. I wish they select you for space mission
@It_got_darK
@It_got_darK 9 күн бұрын
Great video as always scott. I'd like to add that hastelloy is an alloy of nickel and chromium (allong with some other stuff like iron and molybdenum). Fly safe
@GregBadabinski
@GregBadabinski 13 күн бұрын
The 1960's (and, to a lesser degree, the pre-sixties) really was the craziest decade. I'm assuming that in the clip you first showed when talking about NaK, the guy is just casually shaking chunks of Sodium or Potassium metal out of that HUGE can. No gloves, no forced ventilation or fume hood, and who knows if he was wearing eyepro.
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 13 күн бұрын
Who needs "Eye-Pro" when you have Saftey Squints?
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 13 күн бұрын
I think it's safe to say that guy is no longer walking around any more
@JarrodFrates
@JarrodFrates 13 күн бұрын
What about the guy reaching into the spinning machinery with zero protection?
@GregBadabinski
@GregBadabinski 13 күн бұрын
@@JarrodFrates that's also very bad! I own a manual Sheldon metal lathe from the late 50s (previously owned by the USAF, funnily enough), so I think my brain's pattern recognition system saw that and said, "oh, we've seen stuff like this before, but lookit the crazy nuclear reactor!" Turning something on a manual lathe with no PPE is also dangerous. Bonus danger points for turning metals that make sparks/dust that might be harmful to inhale (hastelloy is nickel/chromium/molybdenum, which are not elements you really want in your lungs). But hey, at least nobody is wearing a tie! Those pictures of dudes in ties (and not clip-ons!) leaning over lathes turning boat prop shafts make me sweat. People were so damn crazy back then. Any time I consider doing something in an unsafe manner because it's convenient, I remember the phrase, "safety regulations are written in blood."
@longboardfella5306
@longboardfella5306 13 күн бұрын
As Beyond The Press channel says “safety is our third priority” lol
@calijoe1074
@calijoe1074 10 күн бұрын
I believe that the alloy "Hastelloy" is a trademark for one of the inconel alloys.
@Niightblade
@Niightblade 9 күн бұрын
I like how stable this old launch footage is compared to the shaky-wobble-fest we have have these days.
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 6 күн бұрын
Great report.
@piranha031091
@piranha031091 12 күн бұрын
3:00 : Hastelloy is a standard nickel-based superalloy, with chromium and molybdenum being the main alloying elements. It does not contain hafnium nor tungsten, as far as I'm aware.
@Ergzay
@Ergzay 12 күн бұрын
The AI upscaling used in this made some of the people look like real horror monsters. Especially at around 6:10.
@elkippy
@elkippy 13 күн бұрын
some of the attempts at ai upscaling in this video look absolutely terrifying idk what's going on with that
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 13 күн бұрын
Terrifying?
@holobolo1661
@holobolo1661 11 күн бұрын
"and the coolant for the reactor... well, it's kinda cool"
@TheAlchaemist
@TheAlchaemist 12 күн бұрын
9:14 Take that beautiful view of a huge diffusion vacuum pump on the left...
@julieannepatterson3295
@julieannepatterson3295 10 күн бұрын
this episode is gold. at 14:22 was one of the several times i had to 'stop 'rewind and hear that agai n!!!. serious mad ideas from science / inventors playing. strewth, cheers. great show. i do have a rocket engine topic you probably can explain real quick . Rocket engines Push, How is the push connected the structure? and then maintain vectoring?
@tjairicciardi9747
@tjairicciardi9747 13 күн бұрын
awesome video
@MrHeuvaladao
@MrHeuvaladao 12 күн бұрын
Humans are despising a safe and reliable source of energy. Nuclear.
@gizmophoto3577
@gizmophoto3577 12 күн бұрын
I have a copy of an AEC brochure regarding the SNAP program from the mid-‘60s.
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 13 күн бұрын
this is a really interesting set of projects, very cutting edge for the 60s. seems like we've hardly made progress since then though I'm sure we're more capable now.
@jeremyglass4283
@jeremyglass4283 11 күн бұрын
one more important thing about NaK, if it comes in contact with water, its EXTREMELY explosive, so please know what you are doing with it!
@liam3284
@liam3284 9 күн бұрын
It donates electrons, rather violently, given half a chance.
@jessevanes1
@jessevanes1 13 күн бұрын
cheers,again !
@drupiROM
@drupiROM 11 күн бұрын
The AI "enhanced" oldschoold footage looks way worse than it did originally. Great clip anyway !
@darcyedmonds8848
@darcyedmonds8848 12 күн бұрын
Those packets in the shell of the cone sounded like a steering system. Maybe they were the problem. 🤔😁
@happysalesguy
@happysalesguy 9 күн бұрын
Wow, that was interesting!
@maigretus1
@maigretus1 13 күн бұрын
"Critical geometry" Yes! Scott gets it! I studied nuclear power both in college and the Navy, and hearing someone say, "Critical mass," makes me cringe almost as much as hearing someone say, "Knots per hour."
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 13 күн бұрын
uh, critical mass is also an actual thing that is very important and in no way comparable to a redundancy like knots per hour
@chrismofer
@chrismofer 12 күн бұрын
​@@Muonium1but a critical mass in the shape of a sphere is different to the critical mass is the shapes actually used in reactors such as spaced out rods. It could very well be a critical mass but not a critical geometry.
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 12 күн бұрын
@chrismofer yes, obviously. But the latter doesn't negate the importance of the former. In other words the inverse cannot be true, you cannot have a critical geometry in the absence of a critical mass.
@liam3284
@liam3284 9 күн бұрын
knots per hour, sounds like a rate of acceleration.
@maigretus1
@maigretus1 9 күн бұрын
@@liam3284 Technically, it is.
@ronwatkins5775
@ronwatkins5775 13 күн бұрын
I see Egon Spengler had a role to play in this @2:57😁
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 13 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t have wanted to be the bloke turning fuel rods on a lathe!
@rablackauthor
@rablackauthor 9 күн бұрын
SNAP was developed at the Santa Susana Field Laboratory, at the eastern end of Simi Valley CA. The same place where they did static tests of the early rocket engines. It wasn't the only sodium-cooled reactor. There was also the "Sodium Reactor Experiment," a prototype for commercial nuclear power plants. That reactor did have an accident that released radioactive steam into the air (something people claim is still contaminating the area - who knew steam could stick around that long?).
@liam3284
@liam3284 9 күн бұрын
Depends if there were heavy metals mixed with the steam. Tritium water will decay in not too long.
@MorzakEV
@MorzakEV 12 күн бұрын
9:28 love how the jig shows a max speed 5mph! Like that was going to be the payload max speed! 😂
@pastashack3517
@pastashack3517 13 күн бұрын
Video #2 of asking for a video on the Decadal Survey, Uranus orbiter mission, and the plutonium shortage
@sgtpepper1978
@sgtpepper1978 13 күн бұрын
There are many different Hastelloys, but there is no Hafnium (some may contain W, like, Hast-C22, Hast-X and Hast-C276, but most are high in Moly). Hast-N was used in molten salt reactor in the 60s, which is mainly Ni-Mo(17%wt)-Cr(7% wt) with some si, al, c, fe. Hast-X is very popular today.
@nightshift5201
@nightshift5201 7 күн бұрын
There's nothing like 1960s animation that brings back sweet memories of my childhood.
@kenjohnson8751
@kenjohnson8751 12 күн бұрын
My father worked at this company, Atomics International, in Canoga Park, CA during this period. You can see the AI logo on some of the lab coats. It was a division of North American Aviation at the time and later merged with Rockwell to become North American Rockwell. I worked there as a summer intern for two summers in the late 70’s on my summer breaks from college, By coincidence occasionally getting to work with my dad in a professional capacity. It was a real highlight of my life.
@badrinair
@badrinair 12 күн бұрын
They we bold and tried so many futuristic things back then. The Nerva engine for an example . thanks for sharing this story . Imagine if they had achieved 50% efficiency ? 25Kw could be of so much use for remote outpost . like the one being planned on Mars and Moon. Mercury vapor spinning turbines would have be so cool
@kaltenstein7718
@kaltenstein7718 13 күн бұрын
its like in that one Werner von Brsun TV Program where he presents LEO and Lunar unfrastructure that is all nuclear powered
@kilgoretrout6938
@kilgoretrout6938 13 күн бұрын
That section at 1:29 sure looks like one of the ISRU units from KSP -- wonder if that's what they used for the inspiration
@erikfinnegan
@erikfinnegan 11 күн бұрын
"It'll stay up there in orbit for another 1000 years, giving us enough time to figure out how to dispose of it before it burns up in the atmosphere." -- sure, unless it'll be caught up in the Kessler syndrome.
@MatthewHill
@MatthewHill 13 күн бұрын
Boiling mercury with a nuclear reactor. In space. Lovely.
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 11 күн бұрын
whats the problem
@benoithudson7235
@benoithudson7235 9 күн бұрын
Intended to burn up on re-entry. Just to make sure.
@Planetery_Dragon
@Planetery_Dragon 13 күн бұрын
Amaziing video
@RXTRUX1
@RXTRUX1 12 күн бұрын
Love that 5 MPH sign.
@thomaslohmann3808
@thomaslohmann3808 10 күн бұрын
A video about the SERT-2 ion thruster test in 1970 would be interesting.
@myleswillis
@myleswillis 13 күн бұрын
The SNAP!(Rhythm Is A Dancer) music video is filmed at the Kennedy Space Centre Visitor Complex. Rockets and Techno, does it get any better?
@chrisk0blu594
@chrisk0blu594 12 күн бұрын
Speaking of the Agena-Atlas rocket, Homemade Documentaries has released Gemini part 2, covering Gemini missions 6-12, along with the associated Agena missions. 2 hrs 43 minutes of wonderful NASA video and history.
@macabo
@macabo 5 күн бұрын
Oh SNAP! Thanks, you've been a lovely audience. Tip your servers, try the veal!
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 12 күн бұрын
Hastelloy is a nickel molybdenum alloy series. It is highly corrosion resistant (and essential for handling NaK alloy).
@mamulcahy
@mamulcahy 13 күн бұрын
Fascinating!
@fensoxx
@fensoxx 12 күн бұрын
I’d like to hear more about plasma wind tunnels. That was a new term to me.
@corwinchristensen260
@corwinchristensen260 11 күн бұрын
With modern thermoelectrics and fuel that has already passed the hazard of launch, someone really should put this to good use even if it's just a heater for something going to deep space.
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 10 күн бұрын
Maybe with a trajectory ending in Neptune so the radioactive waste is gone for good instead of raining down on our postgenitors in a few millennia?
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb 13 күн бұрын
It's worth noting that RTG:s and other technologies that rely on natural decay are not considered nuclear reactors even if they use nuclear energy. To be a proper reactor, you have to utilize controlled neutron induced fission. I guess fusion would also count but they are a class of their own.
Why Chernobyl Exploded - The Real Physics Behind The Reactor
21:37
Scott Manley
Рет қаралды 4,4 МЛН
Can The Human Body Handle Rotating Artificial Gravity?
15:27
Scott Manley
Рет қаралды 2 МЛН
маленький брат прыгает в бассейн
00:15
GL Show Russian
Рет қаралды 1,6 МЛН
ТОМАТНЫЙ ДОЖДЬ #shorts
00:28
Паша Осадчий
Рет қаралды 13 МЛН
Do Spacecraft Really Have To Endure The Hazards of Reentry
12:23
Scott Manley
Рет қаралды 1,2 МЛН
The Invention of the Depth Charge - Kaboom? Yes Jellicoe, Kaboom!
29:37
Scandal: Apollo 15
18:36
The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered
Рет қаралды 204 М.
Connecting Solar to the Grid is Harder Than You Think
18:48
Practical Engineering
Рет қаралды 848 М.
The Amazing Engineering Behind Solid Rocket Boosters
16:04
Scott Manley
Рет қаралды 1,3 МЛН
Dornier Do X | The History Of The Giant 12-Engine Flying Ship
2:23:27
Rex's Hangar
Рет қаралды 249 М.
Launching the Vulcan Rocket For the First Time - Smarter Every Day 297
36:43
Как открыть дверь в Jaecoo J8? Удобно?🤔😊
0:27
Суворкин Сергей
Рет қаралды 1 МЛН
Распаковал Xiaomi SU7
0:59
Wylsacom
Рет қаралды 475 М.
Опасная флешка 🤯
0:22
FATA MORGANA
Рет қаралды 744 М.
Он Отказался от БЕСПЛАТНОЙ видеокарты
0:40
ЖЕЛЕЗНЫЙ КОРОЛЬ
Рет қаралды 326 М.
All New Atlas | Boston Dynamics
0:40
Boston Dynamics
Рет қаралды 5 МЛН
Я Создал Новый Айфон!
0:59
FLV
Рет қаралды 2,6 МЛН