Using Brick, Plaster, Or Concrete For Soundproof Walls

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It is important to note that masonry walls will transmit impulse noise through their structure more easily than gypsum board so isolating the wall from outside sources or other parts of your structure is important.
Adding mortar or compacted sand inside concrete blocks will increase isolation. Creating a double wall system with glass fiber in the air gap will also increase isolation.
Summary Of STC Walls
In the chart below from Master Handbook Of Acoustics by F. Alton Everest and Ken C. Pohlman, we can see that the best isolation is from double concrete block walls spaced 6" apart. This system will work really well, but uses a ton of square footage in your studio. A double wall with drywall and wood framing can achieve an STC of 63, so single masonry walls for studios are not as good as a double wall system. However, single masonry walls are much better than single drywall and wood framing. A single wall in a typical home only has an STC of 36.
Comparing Concrete Walls
If we look at another diagram from the Master Handbook of Acoustics we find that a single 12" concrete wall has an STC of 51 and two concrete walls spaced 6" apart has an STC of 59. The double wall system is clearly better than a single concrete wall. Remember adding insulation in the air gap will increase the STC as would adding more mass to the outsides of both or either wall. Also remember that although the STC is not comparable to our wood framed double wall the low frequency transmission loss is going to be greater in a concrete wall than a wood framed wall.
Brick Walls
If we look at a third diagram from the Master Handbook of Acoustics we can see how different brick wall designs perform. Notice that a single brick wall is not ideal. Adding wood, furring channels or gypsum board to a brick wall will increase transmission loss. The two brick walls with glass fiber in the middle will give the best transmission loss across the frequency spectrum.
Using Masonry Walls and Wood Framing Together
I believe the best option when soundproofing is to use a masonry wall as your outside wall to the world or the rest of your house and then frame an inside wall with at least a 1" airgap using wood framing and two layers of drywall with green glue in the middle. This will give you an STC in the 65 or higher range and will also increase your low frequency isolation. I also believe this system will save you in materials cost and floor space in your studio design.
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0:00 - Intro
1:11 - Summary of using masonry walls
3:06 - Different Wall STC Ratings
4:57 - Two concrete block designs
5:31 - Comparing brick wall designs

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@alialrashidi1764
@alialrashidi1764 Жыл бұрын
This whole video is to say : double walls better than a single wall for sound insulation
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
Yes
@naegleriafowleri2230
@naegleriafowleri2230 11 ай бұрын
A big waste of time
@jesus2621
@jesus2621 9 ай бұрын
Thanks You save me time
@charmeensubramony6487
@charmeensubramony6487 8 ай бұрын
Our exterior walls are already double brick in South Africa 🇿🇦
@vinylrules4838
@vinylrules4838 4 ай бұрын
If you want sound proofing, Acoustic Fields is your go to company. Most stuff is just BS that doesn't work.
@miklosnagy7411
@miklosnagy7411 5 ай бұрын
Hello! I'm planning to turn my garage into a recording studio, it's made out of thick bricks. If I would build a room within a room system, with studs and plasterboard and a few inch gap between the two walls, shouldn't I need something like a vapor barrier or something (behind the insulated wall)? I live in central europe, so the winters are cold and the summers are hot. Here people don't really "insulate" their houses from the inside, cause it gives a lot of problem with condensation behind the insulation material. Is there any working method for this type of construction? Thanks! Btw, your videos really helped me to understand the basics of soundproofing! Cheers
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio 5 ай бұрын
Yes a vapor barrier is good in any building. The key is to place it somewhere in your wall and keep it continuous from wall to roof. I like a book called pretty good home for more info on best practices. Will make a video on it too.
@KASmonkeys
@KASmonkeys 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Great advice - I already have a double brick cavity wall here in the UK. Just wondering if there is anything you recommend to add to the outside wall to help?
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio 4 ай бұрын
Yes insulation in the wall cavity for damping resonances
@KASmonkeys
@KASmonkeys 4 ай бұрын
and on the outside of the brick wall? Thanks@@soundproofyourstudio
@bonzology322
@bonzology322 Жыл бұрын
That 2 1/2" thick Everest book sits in my bathroom for the past 25 years because that's how long it'll take to slog through it!
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s more theory than application too
@frederf69
@frederf69 Жыл бұрын
problem with concrete is the rebar which caries shock like no tomorrow. I worked in construction for 5-6 years & it can be surprising to some how much steel is in concrete. Good vid bud 👍
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
Yes, the denser the material the faster sound travels and the easier it is for it to travel through it at great distances. Concrete and metal are excellent examples of this happening. The key is to decouple the mass from the two walls creating a mass spring mass system.
@Kee_Diddy
@Kee_Diddy Жыл бұрын
Question-- If you're trying to block sound from coming IN-- is there any benefit to flipping this design? Like wood framed exterior with insulation, but then a brick wall on the interior with an air gap? I've got issues with Harley Davidsons and the bass from rap music :)
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
The bass from rap music is super tough, but you can deaden both to a better volume. It is the same either way. I think the brick will be heavier than drywall this soundproof better.
@alirezayousefirad
@alirezayousefirad 11 ай бұрын
Very useful video The comparison you do at 4:57 using that picture would be more interesting and fair if you compared STC of 18" concrete wall too So if we have 18" space to place a wall(like the picture above at 4:57) is it better to fill that completely with concrete or an air gap between?
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio 11 ай бұрын
The air gap is essential to create the mass spring mass system needed to stop sound. Thanks for watching!
@alirezayousefirad
@alirezayousefirad 11 ай бұрын
@@soundproofyourstudio so do you guess a 18" concrete wall has STC lower than 59?
@mountains1233
@mountains1233 8 ай бұрын
I saw a video reel about pre-cast concrete. Is this feasible for at least a non-decoupled system? I'm only interested in sub-100Hz attenuation.
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio 8 ай бұрын
The way soundproofing works is that if you attenuate below 100 hz you will certainly block out higher frequencies too. Pre cast concrete would work well since it has a lot of mass. The mass will help with blocking the energy of sub 100hz.
@JohnPapaGros
@JohnPapaGros Жыл бұрын
Should the roof/ceiling mass equal the outer/inner wall mass? I am converting a wooden garage with an outer brick facade with a simple plywood, roof paper, shingle roof. It seems to me I need to add more mass to the roof and ceiling to equal the mass of wall layer. My thought is to add MLV and resilient channels to ceiling along with insulation and double drywall. I'm concerned about the added weight to the pre-existing roof. Any tips? Thanks for all the tutorials and info!
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
Hey John this is a bit more complicated to answer in a message thread. Sign up for a free soundproof clarity call if you still need some help: calendly.com/soundproofyourstudio/soundproof-clarity-call-evergreen
@mountains1233
@mountains1233 8 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. I've been told soundproofing is only as good as the weakest link. So even if there are no windows and a complex door system, it's hard to imagine the roof/ceiling would be able to match the very low-frequency attenuation of the concrete without extreme and complex measures
@JohnPapaGros
@JohnPapaGros 8 ай бұрын
@@mountains1233 I opted to match the ceiling to the wall treatment - 5/8" drywall between studs, 3" mineral wool insulation, resilient channels, 2 layers 5/8" drywall - and got consistent results. The only difference is the roofing material on top and bricks around the sides. The planes flying overhead are practically inaudible and I no longer hear the train rumble or horn blow from 4 blocks away. My weakest link is the window and door system as predicted.
@mountains1233
@mountains1233 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnPapaGros What kind of planes are you dealing with?
@JohnPapaGros
@JohnPapaGros 8 ай бұрын
Commercial passenger planes. My house is directly under the one of the flight paths for takeoffs and landings. I'm about 5 miles from the airport and although the planes aren't very low flying their engine noise can be very audible. @@mountains1233
@301cclint
@301cclint Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question.? I am building a recording studio with a concrete wall because of space. I intend to use Mass Vinyl, then the Stud with insulation between the stud after that, another layer of mass Vinyl with a 5/8 Sheet rock panel. Can that work?
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
I don’t recommend MLV. It is not as efficient at soundproofing low frequencies as green glue. I am not sure I follow your design, but I am worried it probably won’t work.
@301cclint
@301cclint Жыл бұрын
My design is Building Concrete blocks as my building frame. After that will build a second wall with MLV. MLV will be attached to the back of the studs, then rock wool insulation following that is another layer of MLV and 5/8 gypsum panels. Hopefully, that explains it a little better.
@bealezebub513
@bealezebub513 Жыл бұрын
MLV works great at stoping sound waves. The low frequency problem he’s talking about can be helped tremendously by decoupling the walls. Basically making it so that low frequencies hitting one side of a given wall can’t vibrate through the whole wall.
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
@@301cclint What I would recommend with your design is to build the second wall and use either IB-3 clips or whisper clips to attach it to your concrete blocks or roof beams. This will keep that wall from moving side to side and will stop sound. I would for go the MLV and use two layers of drywall with green glue. MLV does not stop low frequencies as well as Green glue.
@Mythbuster42
@Mythbuster42 Жыл бұрын
Hello, is double brick (without gap) wall good enough for music studio.
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio Жыл бұрын
The gap is important and so is insulation in the gap.
@TerranceGregory.
@TerranceGregory. 5 ай бұрын
I want to put a thick veneer on an existing external stucco wall to help mitigate the noise level from traffic. Any suggestions?
@soundproofyourstudio
@soundproofyourstudio 5 ай бұрын
Think about mass and decoupling. You want both to reduce sound transmission
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