Using Matter: Before you upgrade, watch this!

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Using Matter: Before you upgrade, watch this!

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Matter is the future of the smart home. But what about right now? Should you update your products to support Matter? This is my experience in doing just that.
I've been using Matter products in my home for a little while now, both via firmware updates and Matter-ready, out-of-the-box products. Here's how it's going as of early 2023...
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0:00 Chapters
1:24 About Matter
1:57 OTA Matter Updates
2:55 Matter-Ready Products
3:40 Migrate Existing Eve Devices to Matter
4:40 Sponsor - Bark
6:02 Add Eve Devices to Apple Home
7:35 Add Eve Devices to Google Home
9:09 Migrate Aqara M2 Hub to Matter
9:52 Add Aqara M2 to Apple Home
10:52 Aqara Child Accessories
11:10 Add Aqara M2 to Google Home
11:52 Experiencing Issues
13:13 Matter Working (Demo)
14:47 Current Issues with Matter
15:50 Should you Update to Matter?
16:50 Final Thoughts
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@richardrobertson3353 Жыл бұрын

I agree 100 percent. After converting all my Eve devices to matter it was a struggle to get Homekit running stable. It seems the Thread network takes forever to fully recognize all devices. With devices not responding and waiting hours the network slowly seemed to rebuild itself. Sit tight everyone wait a while hopefully things get better in the near future.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Richard!

@kevinweyrauch4875 Жыл бұрын

So what you’re saying is they half assed gave us what we wanted.

@JeffFromMichigan Жыл бұрын

I noticed the same thing if someone unplugs one of my thread smart plugs, or manually turns off a light bulb switch, the thread network takes time to rebuild and during that time, some automations are slow or don't work.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

@@Jay37_tech Yes you can. That's the whole idea of Matter. It's just gonna take some time, imo, before everything is working seamlessly.

@JoseJorgeJr Жыл бұрын

we appreciate your effort Shane in order to show us this new thing. It's hard especially when you have your smart home running smoothly (which is quite an accomplishment for all of us). Keep up the good work.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

🙏 🙏

@marcgoldstein2957 Жыл бұрын

Right now Philips Hue is just NOT meshing with Homekit. Will be responsive for a few hours, and then back to no response. Every software updated. Thank you for all your efforts in sharing your experience. PS: the Airversa(s) just decided to not show up at all on anything including their native app. Pure Chaos.

@grahamhargreaves8386 Жыл бұрын

Seeing the same thing with my Phillips Hue. Thought it was just me and did a full home reset to find it in the same state. Maybe what is being reported in the video is a wider issue not just mater

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Dang, sorry to hear that. Was hoping things were going a little better with the philips hue beta/matter integration. Thanks for sharing.

@marcgoldstein2957 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaneCreates "Hey Shane, show us the light" ;)

@marcgoldstein2957 Жыл бұрын

@@grahamhargreaves8386 I have: 1. upgraded to the latest Apple TV 4K. 2. Bought an iPod Mini. 3. Updated to the latest Linksy's Node. 4. Added a Hub. 5. Unplugged replugged. Nooooooooothing has worked. I remain optimistic and am saving a bottle of Champagne for the day it all comes back on!

@grahamhargreaves8386 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaneCreates I’m not even on the matter beta. I think there are general issues with home/iOS not just with matter devices

@inelonwetrust9169 Жыл бұрын

Definitely gonna wait. Thanks for tackling the challenges of starting the transition. I look forward to updates on the continued rollout. And yes Apple give us a hub with a screen!! 😂

@josephiyere4491 Жыл бұрын

100% agreed. Thanks for your time

@pghatak Жыл бұрын

"I don't have any Philips Hue stuff anyway" - made my day. Shane that made you my friend. !! 😃

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

haha thanks for watching friend! 😃

@iGageit Жыл бұрын

I'm really looking forward to Matter being everywhere! I always didn't like not being able to choose a device for my smart home just because it wasn't not supported by HomeKit. Great video!

@Satans_Trainer Жыл бұрын

Since ios 16.3 i have had nothing but problems with my homekit home. Mainly my Aqara buttons and sensors but also some automations work and other dont so over it

@christopherretford9998 Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks so much for this video. Definitely don’t feel the need to upgrade at least until later on. I have finally got my Home stable which was difficult with circa 8 home hub devices and this would probably start causing more ‘No response’ errors

@HughD Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Shane. Your video just shows why most of your viewers who have working Homekit systems have little to gain by converting existing working devices to Matter. The idea is to get things/devices into Homekit that you might have and aren't supported natively in Homekit. If you're using Homebridge and Hubitat, you probably already have most things already working in Homekit. If, however, you really want Eve devices to work with Alexa then Matter might be a help, but I'd say just use Aqara devices which already work with Homekit and Alexa. I long ago quit playing around with Google stuff as they turned their back on smart home users, including me, several years ago. Anyway, the bottom line for me is to forget Matter for now. I;d like to get away from Homebridge, but it has been totally reliable for the past couple of years as is my Hubitat hub. Thanks for confirming my decision.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the comment Hugh!

@MrPecky Жыл бұрын

Dude, thanks for taking the hit for us. 👍

@Bigglare Жыл бұрын

I signed up for the Hue matter update right away on nov 3rd. Waited the 5 day waiting period. Previously my 6 hue devices showed in Apple Homekit. Afterwards the additional 16 ikea 2 cree and a couple other Seedan branded bulbs on the hue bridge showed up in apple. I use these devices in hue for the lutron aurora dimmer. I’ve found many other non homekit zigbee brands work great with hue and now also in Matter. I am still anxiously awaiting the Aqara and ikea updates for their matter friendly hubs.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear your experience has been pretty smooth so far. Thanks for sharing!

@Hedrakk1 Жыл бұрын

So, to sum up, if our current Apple HomeKit setup is working perfectly, and we’re not planning on mixing Smart Home ecosystem, there’s no added benefit to update HomeKit devices to Matter?

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

@AllGoodDays1 Жыл бұрын

Hey Shane! Don't know if you'll see this and I know its not out yet. Can you do a review/comparison between the new HomePod2 and the HomePod Mini? Know there's a huge price difference but trying to see what the justified reason for the 2 would even be. Thanks!

@no-budhee6657 Жыл бұрын

Great experiment and great video! Moral of the story for me is to wait at least until all phases of Matter (ie cameras, video operability) are rolled out.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@randygreen007 Жыл бұрын

Great advice Shane and as someone that began this smart home journey way back in early 2017 I can say with great certainty that I understand your pain and frustration. There’s nothing that will keep me awake at night more than knowing a device isn’t connecting or operating properly. This whole journey has given me gray hairs so I’ll just sit back and let you younger folks work out the kinks for us. 💪🏼😎👍🏼

@hometechUK Жыл бұрын

As Matter is truly not available till April as that's when virtual all out of the box devices will get released & most of the updates, hopefully by then all the connection issues will be solved, great videos like this will show the companies what the issues are. Glad you love the Google Max yes Apple is slow wit a home display hub.

@gregghayes6710 Жыл бұрын

I’m certainly in no hurry to move to matter. Looking forward to new devices being made available to HomeKit, but I’ll leave my old stuff alone.

@brycewilson7805 Жыл бұрын

I do not plan on updating any of my existing HomeKit devices to Matter. I will only use Matter to add devices to my Home App that I do not currently have if there is not an official HomeKit option.

@thomasds2328 5 ай бұрын

Has there been any progress or updates since this video was released? I'm currently undecided about upgrading to Matter and would appreciate insights into any initial issues that have been resolved.

@exxplora Жыл бұрын

Frankly, most of the problems you described have already occurred on my network before even updating to Matter. Starting with the 16.2 updates, my thread network has become very unreliable, and 16.3 made it even worse. I've found in general that my network is better behaved wgen an Apple TV is the hub rather than a HomePod mini. But even then, I have a number of devices that are intermittently unresponsive, and some devices (both HomePod Mini and Apple TV) that spontaneously start playing media. I'm now at the point where I dread new Apple updates!

@exxplora Жыл бұрын

Update 16.3.1 is even worse. All of my Eve devices are now shown as unreachable on my thread network. So Eve has a problem with Apple; how biblical! ;-)

@heliocorreia1814 Жыл бұрын

Haha I have all the problems you mentioned 😅. I just have to wait for future updates

@SoCalTropicalgardener Жыл бұрын

What a nightmare! I use HomeKit to control my home. Most of my devices are X-wave set up on Hubitat (which is excellent). Later I added a Hoobs bridge to allow these devices to be seen/controlled on Homkit. That work well for a while but then was sometimes not responding in HomeKit. Then Hubitat added native HomeKit support and works excellent about 90% of the time. I do have to reboot my hubitat occasionally due to devices not responding in HomeKit which solves my problem. Sounds like matter is not a solution yet. I highly recommend Hubitat which you have reviewed. My hub is an original elevation prior to C2 and still works very well. Thanks for your videos!

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@DanZimmerli Жыл бұрын

Awesome video as usual. The more I see of matter 1.0 I’m more interested in selling my echos and buying HomePod minis.

@kinglobo943 Жыл бұрын

I figured it wasn’t going to be perfect in the beginning. Going to give it a good year or two before I update all my smart home products to Matter

@alaptatu Жыл бұрын

I installed Philips Hue Matter Beta last week, it works without problems with Homekit. And all my other brand Zigbee devices works with Homekit over Hue Bridge! (Ledvance, Hue, Lidl, Ikea)

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it's been working well for you. Thanks for sharing!

@faengelm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your frustrations and guidance

@Bigglare Жыл бұрын

I also like that my Eve matter devices on my Apple TV thread hub are now accessible to smartthings and other matter fabrics that do not have a thread hub directly. Huge plus for Matter

@craigcritelli6327 Жыл бұрын

Finally got my Eve devices in Google Home…. I entered matter codes manually Instead of scanning code. Just like you did in video…. Thank You.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Nice! Glad you got them to work!

@mactibi Жыл бұрын

After I upgraded to Matter, the EVE door and window sensor it "self-destructed". I tried to reset and add it again, but it didn't work anymore. I had an error code (HFErrorDomain error 6.0.1.) Now I'm waiting for the new one replaced under warranty to arrive. I won't try again, especially since I don't even need Matter. Thread is enough and works perfectly.

@Dr_Cole Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Shane. Seeing the current state in a real world update makes the decision to stay on HK pretty easy. I have a house full of exclusively Apple users so there’s no reason to go through the nightmare you were showing.

@lawyerdch Жыл бұрын

So am I correct in my thinking that one of them best features of matter is so that we don’t need multiple hubs to connect our devices that are sprawled throughout the house? For example, security cameras at different ends of the house needing that connectivity? From your report, I’m not encouraged at this point.

@casvandijk03 Жыл бұрын

Still hoping for any smart lights to fit the Philips G9 fittings in my lamp... Haven't found anything for Homekit Though maybe Matter will eventually help this

@davidquirk2105 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I somehow bricked my Eve Door/Window sensor trying to upgrade it. Now it won’t connect at all. Lesson learned.

@uniqueflh2941 Жыл бұрын

Wow. So many things to 'unpack' in this video... Seems like your Thumbnail Title should have been "IF it goes smoothly..." Anyway - I am absolutely one of the 'Crazy Ones' you mentioned at the end of the video - and knowing that, I am STILL not crazy enough to mess with any of this nonsense. Yet. :) Your experience, that of other Smart Home Content Creators and the feedback from those on your Member's Discord Group have left me quite happy with my decision to NOT jump on the Matter Bandwagon as of yet. Great video. Thanks, as always, for your content.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes, often us 'crazy ones' who are so eager to try the new things, are also the ones with a lot of accessories and more potential for things to go wrong. So sometimes waiting is definitely a smart move.

@marcdupuis4679 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice Shane. Very much appreciated. Seeing that……I think I’ll wait 😉

@tombe1412 Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I think I’m going to wait as long as possible. I’m a 1 platform guy. No hurry for me.

@ericsaunders3824 Жыл бұрын

Matter will be great, eventually! I love getting great advice from you. This was an excellent video as always. Eric

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Eric!

@roeiboot Жыл бұрын

Seems like a potential headache for now I can do without ;-} Respect for going through all that and share the experience. Thanks.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Polkster13 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. This just solidifies my decision that I won't be touching Matter with a 10-foot pole; at least for now. I'll review this again this summer. Right now I will be sticking with an Apple Home only for now.

@howardzhao4685 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again for the heads up on Matter integration. Since I am only setup in HomeKit and not seeing myself to move into any other ecosystem anytime soon, there is certainly no advantage to migration. But given the matter support available in HomeKit, I will like to try adding some matter devices to the HomeKit if such device no native HomeKit support. Another concern that I have is: since HomeKit matter support will be communicated through home hub only, is that defeating the actual matter advantage of meshing network? So, with HomeKit, it is still best for thread devices with native HomeKit support, right? If so, I would hope the brand such as EVE and Aqara will continue there native support for HomeKit as addition to their matter support.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

If a product supports Matter, it supports HomeKit natively. If you're only concerned with using HomeKit/Apple Home, then just getting products that "Works with HomeKit" or "works with matter" should be all you need to worry about. Either is fine and either is native HomeKit support.

@nickpanzeca7640 Жыл бұрын

Great informative video Shane! I am going to wait on a few devices to get full matter updates before purchasing!

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Nick! Yea hopefully one these new products support matter right off the shelves, thing will be a little smoother.

@AndrewJonesMcGuire Жыл бұрын

Maybe.... when Apple eventually actually update to Thread v1.3.0 (as required for the patch release of Matter....) - maybe, things will settle down. When you connect everything to the Apple Homepod first, which is NOT running v1.3.0 of OpenThreadBorderRouter, then you lose the ability for devices to roam across border routers, because until Apple update the Border Router, devices attached to it, are stuck there, your Google Home can't join the Thread network that the Homepod has created. v1.3.0 is supposed to fix this limitation, so that you have ONE thread network with multiple border routers (regardless of who makes it). Right now that's not happening for you, your Google Hub is generating it's own Thread network because it can't join the existing one. Additionally, because the Google Home can't join the Apple thread network, then all attempts to communicate with the thread devices, have to be routed via the Homepod. This is quite obviously not the preferred way of doing things. Each router should be able to talk to the Thread network directly, if it can't - then it is ONLY a matter controller.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your explanation!

@droneguy99 Жыл бұрын

Hi so I have a little problem with my homepod mini. I created a shortcut for my morning briefing and the speak text automation just plays from my phone instead of the homepod (i have the shortcut to change playback destination to homepod enabled) any help?

@macsterguy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking this A** kicking for us, your viewers, so we don’t have to Shane!

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

🤣 Anytime!! 😅

@chrismoore6070 Жыл бұрын

sup shane upgrading to homekit as soon as i get my hands on a i device ipad' homepod ' or apple tv 4k 2022 version starting with my smart by vizio

@Gimrison Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Tell us when it is working and what will be the benefit for Apple HomeKit users.

@jamesmonahan7872 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video. I am excited to see this getting real. I will wait and keep watching till some more bugs are worked out. But will really enjoy if I can have one App (Hub) to rule them all.

@doxdoomsday4948 Жыл бұрын

I am looking for a plug and play, Home-kit IR blaster. Thanks for the help

@diokdin Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. I’m holding off then. I can wait. I’m not in a hurry. I can wait years if need be as long as they have this “matter” ironed out. 😂

@thickernell Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Shane. You've convinced me to shut off auto firmware updates on all devices and wait it out for a while. I'm almost all Apple anyway, with the exception of a few Aqara devices. But the Aqara devices work just fine as is through the camera hub I have. So I'll wait for more YT videos throughout the year and see if things improve.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And the great thing is that Aqara devices work with Apple Home already, even without Matter, so you should be good!

@BMar1andonly Жыл бұрын

Just figured out an issue I had figured I’d share. Aqara malfunctions on a Homekit router if you change it’s access to anything other than “not restricted” than an issue on iOS 16.2 prevented me from added accessories. 16.3 released fixing everything for me but than I changed my router settings and it fried my Aqara again (thus discovering the problem). Aqara requires constant pinging of Chinese servers or it malfunctions.

@daboundy Жыл бұрын

maybe that's the point.. running Matter .. and Google .. and Apple .,. and .. and .. and ... all while tryingo to upgrade old devices plus add new native devices .. just too much for all systems to juggle? I haven't gone near starting a 'smart home' as I had NO intention of juggling a variety of systems and hubs. For me it was always going to be one or none .. and hopefully Matter can make that a reality.

@Jaspermoises1835 Жыл бұрын

Hi Shane. Great video as always. Super helpful. I’ll be waiting at least a year before I attempt to go down the Matter path. It’ll be great once fully vetted but don’t need anymore headaches at this point. 😂 Two questions: 1. Did you create a video on integrating the Google hub discussed in this video? I’m guessing I’m overlooking it because I can’t seem to find it. 2. Did you happen to hear anything about the firmware fiasco from Linksys that happened about 3-4 weeks ago? It was for their Velop line of routers and caused huge HK integration problems for folks like me. I think you use Orbi so I know you weren’t impacted but might be a topic worth talking about. Thanks again and keep up the fantastic work!!

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Bryan. I'm not sure what you mean by integrating the google hub. Do you mean integrating it with HomeKit? If so, it doesn't work like that. Basically I can just run these voice assistants side by side and my Matter devices can be paired to any. So I have the option to use Siri or Google when giving commands, etc. But google speakers won't show up in HomeKit and HomePods won't show up in Google. I'll look into the Linksys stuff. Thanks!

@ryans5280 Жыл бұрын

I have one Eve product, but was able to get it updated and integrated with SmartThings. So far so good.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Good to hear! I've heard the SmartThings integration has been a little smoother than Google. I'll definitely try it out myself soon.

@ryans5280 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaneCreates I'm a fan of Apple Home for use as a dashboard, but I like Smartthings for some of the automations. Unlocking the doors when I come home without a dummy switch comes to mind. I also like Alexa...I'm just a tinkerer.

@dindu42 Жыл бұрын

I have to admit that after updating to 16.2 and taking the option to "Upgrade" to the new architecture before Apple pulled it my HomeKit setup became almost unusable with multiple reports on my phone that ALL my home hubs were unavailable (12 of them) and then a few mins later they would all be back again. Frequently a HomePod Mini would be promoted to the Connected Hub in preference to an ethernet connected Apple TV. Struggled with it for several weeks and now I've deleted all of this, created a new Apple Home and added everything back again. The moral of this story is that we are likely to get "pain" due to updates from the many vendors involved even if we don't upgrade to Matter specifically. Certainly the HomeKit update was a very frustrating exercise.

@BrianCrink Жыл бұрын

This has been my exact experience this week. Completely random unresponsive errors on the unreliable 16.3 new HomeKit architecture. I really don’t want to factory reset everything but I’m close to doing it.

@dindu42 Жыл бұрын

@@BrianCrink I’m reluctant to tempt fate - but doing a full rebuild using a new Home name has apparently fixed all the problems I was experiencing. Hope you have a similar experience

@dannycabrera8466 Жыл бұрын

How many times have you said Hey Siri to your Google Home Hub? 😂

@rationalist8805 Жыл бұрын

Shane: looking to use a shortcut to have eve plug turn on for 2 hours, 3, 5 or 7 hours (controls a room heater). Using a menu in a personal automation shortcut for the selection, and repeating a wait time of 10 minutes to obtain desired total wait time. Problem is, once iphone screen locks the shortcut fails. How to pass the selection to a Home automation where the timings are not device dependent? Perhaps idea for a video. Thanks.

@BrianCrink Жыл бұрын

Refer your question over to Reddit in the iOS shortcuts subreddit

@rationalist8805 Жыл бұрын

@@BrianCrink Good idea - thanks

@johanfernhout9180 Жыл бұрын

Hi, Do you know any solution for Home 16.3 (HPmini, iPhone) on MacOS monterey and older ? Since i updated i don't get a connection anymore with my mac.

@chrismoore6070 Жыл бұрын

hey can u make a video on setting up home with bluetooth. trying to setup home kit without wifi bluetooth only or zigbee

@ElroyJetson1234 Жыл бұрын

The firmware update or the Eve Outdoor camera broke 2 devices. Eve replaced them, Thant you Eve!! The 3rd one is working just fine WITHOUT doing the firmware updaeI I recommend NOT upgrading the firmware on this device.

@johnkwolf Жыл бұрын

I got a smart thing hub and it worked good I even got ring stuff working without me doing anything

@91dfred Жыл бұрын

Are NEST products getting upgraded to MATTER? Either as an OTA update to existing products or new ones?

@bertiebaggio Жыл бұрын

Hi Shane Could it be that Apple is playing up? We've not got any Matter devices nor have we hot an upgrade option on our Eve products …and still I had to set EVERYTHING up again because our Original HomePods keep asking "Who's speaking?" My problem started before 16.3. I had hoped 16.3 would have fixed it, but it still occurs, albeit sporadically. Thanks for another informative video.

@Rockovissi Жыл бұрын

I’ve been looking to replace my Wyze Sensor V1 because it stopped working and they don’t make them anymore. But right now it seems Matter is too new. I primarily use Amazon Echo devices but I have my eye on the Samsung Smart Things Station.

@Damianthelovetour2024 Жыл бұрын

Bro I just received my Hubitat evolution. I have Philips wiz bulbs. It sees them for HomeKit I’m the Hubitat but it says not compatible wth ?

@paksemangka Жыл бұрын

hi shane, i got firmware update for my m1s hub to matter same with your experience now i have 2 hub in homekit : 1 original and 1 matter version i have question : 1. as the matter version lose the function of security system, will the original keep the function if i'm not deleting it from the homekit? 2. why is the accesories bind into the hub not following it into the homekit? is it the child accesories that i have not yet get matter support?

@DoubleKLAT Жыл бұрын

Any idea why Aqara Temp. sensor is deleted automatically - accessory deleted - message from Hub? Changed the new battery, but the same. Shows up to date. Could it be because my hub have 24 devices? Or temp sensor is broken? 😢

@mikebeals4129 8 ай бұрын

Hey Shane! I’ve got a question.. I recently moved, and haven’t used my devices in about 6+ months. I’m rebuilding my smart home and have run into a snag. For some reason any of the 2 matter devices (at least I think they are the only two) won’t connect when adding them to HomeKit. First issue was with a brand new Nanoleaf essentials light, still haven’t gotten it to connect.. my most recent issue was with the eve energy - I connected it without issue to my home, then got a notification for an update and upgrade to matter.. I did all that, and now it won’t connect 😅

@djsanjeevan 9 ай бұрын

Will I loose the security feature on Aqara M2 ? if i move over to matter, currently linked via homekit

@dindu42 Жыл бұрын

I think we need a small QR Code printer so we can print matter barcodes on "upgraded" equipment - when we are satisfied that its safe to do so. Yes I know there are apps to record the information but there's nothing quite so convenient than a barcode on the actual device.

@gregg5958 Жыл бұрын

Unless said device is a bulb high up inside a recessed fixture in the ceiling. 🙂

@BlazerRox Жыл бұрын

I think I will delay upgrading for as long as possible, as all my stuff works great now and I don't want to mess it up :)

@karls8989 Жыл бұрын

Yea I am not upgrading to matter or using this in matter. HomeKit works just fine

@zackaryvoss1619 Жыл бұрын

I wish in order for things to be called “smart” it would work with a smart home / hub as an industry standard to earn that title I can’t explain how much anxiety it’s been trying to figure out how to get all my devices under 1 entity instead spread across 30 different apps or at least someone crate an launcher that’s compatible with every app. Ik it’s all minor things that are virtually unimportant but with ocd I get this compulsion to have everything together and even with services like Home Ass I still have entities that are incompatible with that networking so so matter what corner I face I’m still stuck.

@waylinnelson Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a mess at the moment! I only want matter so I can build my Apple HomeKit. I want nothing to do with the others, I’m just happy to get way more options for HomeKit, finally!

@nervebreaker Жыл бұрын

Only Eve app and Smartthings recognize my upgraded eve matter devices. Apple homekit recognizes one and Google home recognizes the other one. I expected them to share all info on thread with each other but not so far.

@vinhennessy3885 Жыл бұрын

Having issues too, Shane, but mine is with Phillip Hue hub.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear it. Thanks for sharing.

@brich6737 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been having issues with the Eve smart plug and Home Kit being consistent. I do have an IPad as my hub given my Apple TVs being out of date. I’m looking at either a new HomePod or a new Apple TV.

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'd definitely recommend a homePod or Apple TV as your hub. And once you upgrade to the new HomeKit architecture, you won't be able to use an iPad as your hub anymore.

@blainefrank9243 Жыл бұрын

Now you are going to confuse your virtual assistants hey siri I mean hey google I mean Alexa 😀

@fercho6262 Жыл бұрын

Hello Shane. Do you know if there’s any Smart Home product that could help me operate my door buzzer system remotely? (to open and close the intercom door)

@lajoskovacs1052 Жыл бұрын

Hi Shane, I am a bit confused. Please note that I'm not an expert at all. I have the following setup: - a lot of Eve Thermo for the heating - an Eve Motion Sensor - a lot of Philips Hue bulbs and lightstrips and a motion sensor - an Apple TV 4k & an Eve Hub, also a HomePod mini. All are working fine with the Eve and the Hue apps, many of the also in the HomeKit. What should I do? Upgrade to matter or wait? I don't even know if the firmware is already available for these products... Thanks in advance for your (or anyone's) kind reply 😜

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

Like I stated in the video, "if it ain't broke don't fix it." Unless you have a really good reason to upgrade your devices to Matter, I'd hold off for a while.

@lajoskovacs1052 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaneCreates Thanks, I’ll do so 👌

@brucestephens2157 Жыл бұрын

So matter doesn’t illuminate all the different hugs?

@camiloparrasalazar9157 Жыл бұрын

Hey Shane! What about that Apple Keychain service connected to the Aqara hub? What is it?

@DirectorWD40 Жыл бұрын

Nest and Ring would be great if they would become available in "Matter".

@weirdo1060 Жыл бұрын

This post is two months later in April 2023. Any major Matter updates or changes from then and now?

@familygameroom4729 Жыл бұрын

There are reported issues with HomeKit and matter. Apple is likely releasing a iOS 16.3.1 update to address it

@oakfig Жыл бұрын

Why did they take the aqara app off the Google Play store?

@ollieroberts1885 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up Shane. Quick question, how were you summoning Siri by saying “Siri” and not “Hey Siri”?

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

I edited out "Hey" so that I wouldn't trigger your devices while watching the video.

@dankelley9361 Жыл бұрын

Should’ve went with Amazon, Google just isn’t up to snuff when it comes to automating your home!

@adammachin Жыл бұрын

Multiple SSIDs/Access Points is going to confuse matter over Wi-Fi/Ethernet depending on your network setup. Would be nice if some made a matter discovery app like the browse the thread network in the eve app.

@AndrewJonesMcGuire Жыл бұрын

It shouldn't As long as everything is on the same broadcast subnet, that should be easy enough to cope with, because matter relies on mDNS. The only problem right now, is that Apple are not on OpenThread 1.3 - which has a few fixes in place, one of which is registering what services devices are offering in the Border Router, so that mDNS requests across the Thread network are not necessary, matter controllers will simply ask the Border Router "what services does that light provide" and the router will respond with it's cache of services. The other major fix is to allow all the Open Thread border routers to join the same Thread network, instead of Apple, Google, Amazon etc each creating their own Thread network.

@adammachin Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewJonesMcGuire great reply the kind of info I was looking for.

@opiatesmile Жыл бұрын

So you have to upgrade each eve device independently? That's intense.

@Max86421 Жыл бұрын

Not everyone can just set up a smart home. Hopefully Matter smart devices will get better overtime and solve that problem 🙂

@ASFx2600 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for giving it a try, Shane. Seems like a bumpy road ahead, but nothing a few updates can't solve. Getting several different entire ecosystems to work together smoothly is a massive challenge. Btw, I think you may need to get a dedicated warehouse for home automation testing. After watching this video, I fear that if any more problems pop up, your wife is going to want to kill you 😆

@davidosoriocastro8211 Жыл бұрын

What about when you want to start a smart home from scratch? What to buy now or still wait?

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

It depends if you know for a fact that you'll stick to one voice assistant or another. If you know you'll only ever use Apple, then getting products now that support homekit is perfectly fine. That said, getting products that support ALL voice assistants is not a bad idea. That gives you flexibility if you do ever decide to change. Similarly, you can wait for Matter devices, but you might be waiting a while still, depending on what type of products you are looking for.

@davidosoriocastro8211 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaneCreates Thank you for replying Shane, I was planning to stick with HomeKit anyway.

@leicaman Жыл бұрын

I had to reboot my Apple TV and reset my Eve Energy before it would update.

@Dpixtion 6 ай бұрын

does the aqara M2 hub ned the HomePod mini to control matter LED bulbs?

@ShaneCreates 6 ай бұрын

The Aqara M2 is not a Matter controller. It can only control other Aqara accessories.

@Dpixtion 6 ай бұрын

@@ShaneCreates thank you..

@larryh5144 Жыл бұрын

So if I go out and buy a device that has a Matter code can it be added to Apple Home setup that has not been merged to the Matter platform?

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

The home app already supports matter. So yes, out of the box matter products will work with Apple Home.

@AlexManMe Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand, the M2 have already supports Alexa, Google and HomeKit. Why doesn’t need matter?

@AndrewJonesMcGuire Жыл бұрын

Right now, companies create products, and have to add all sorts of additionally bloat to their code to make them work with each different ecosystem - AND they have to pay to certify the device for EACH ecosystem too. That is obviously a waste of resources, very expensive and time consuming. With matter - companies will code once, certify once, and it will work with all ecosystems that support matter. Which will continue growing - because the smart home industry has not seen the multi billions that was predicted coming in, and have realised, its because people find it too confusing, and there isn't exactly a huge amount of choice out there. Matter is a last attempt to make the smart home accessible to everyone.

@BlazerRox Жыл бұрын

Do you know if Homebridge will support matter devices?

@ShaneCreates Жыл бұрын

I think just as it is now, it's going to depend on the individual device manufacturers and the plugins that are available from the community.