Good video and great to see you making the most of the equipment. I agree that brands should design sails and boards that cover multiple disciplines but still have good free race performance - same goes for versatility in wave sailing. The issue for me is money and space as I can only take so much equipment to the spot and I want to have options to maximise the conditions. I think this is being explored - Patrik Race SF and Tabou Fifty are examples. Foiling is still very new compared to fin and if the brands want to develop specialist sails, they should be allowed to do so. What they learn from specialist development may benefit hybrid designs. Product development takes time and money so will not happen overnight but it feels like going in the right direction. If you look at the success of wing foiling I think people are willing to sacrifice performance for less complicated kit and a smaller quiver with increased portability.

I use a convertible foil sail on my 1990's longboards. It's not perfect, but it is all about necessity and time on the water.

I completely agree with your assessment. I lack the funds and space to have 10 sails. So, I'm only on fin and gave up foiling.

Great video, keep up the good work. I have Naish RN high aspect foil sail and use on fin all the time, just need enough wind to get going, and then the wind can increase to the max and the sail can handle it no issue. High aspect sails have a short boom, so gybing is so easy, and top end is quite respectable. So I agree with your point, let's give our wives a chance to cool down by not having to buy a million bits of kit to store all over the house. Windsurfing is not about needing a spreadsheet to figure out what kit you need to take the the water. Water Speed Beer. Amen

100% agree. i tried slalom sails on foil and foil sails on slalom. I believe one race sail for both would is doable at a very high level of performance.

Agree. Only one racesail for both disciplines.

Agree fully. Last year I severely consolidated my windsurfing gear. I don’t race though…

Right, people shy away from windsurfing because of the immense gear... hybrid boards like Tabou fifty and crossover sails are the only chance to attract more people to this awesome sport

If I am not mistaken, Point 7 is the only brand that makes hybrid sails. Granted that these sails are not purpose-built for the professional track, I want to purchase one to provide a low wind option for my quiver without increasing sail size by "less than one size": I currently have a 7.1 sail and the next size would typically be a 7.8. With the F1E 7.4 however, I would hit the low wind range with the same effect that the 7.8 "fin sail" would.

Very interesting!

I don't plan on buying hybrid sails but anticipate using my '23 8.7 GA vapor less when my my new GA vapor air 8.5 and 7.4 arrive. I still enjoy the 7.7 GA vapor 71 manta combo in full tilt conditions and at this point, I don't anticipate wanting to foil when my heart is still enjoying fin this much. So don't be asking to dumb down the race sails just yet, I'm still using it.

interesting watch Kasper :)

Ive been windsurfing since 1982 and honestly some people put way to much thought in a sail catching wind.

Actually a good idea

Totally agree with you

I'm on the fence with your assessment. Obviously we don't want to go back to the days of custom boats and sails, but I think it is still important for the elite guys to be using the best gear possible. Already foiling is getting far beyond the average recreational windsurfer, given the huge speeds now achievable, and the total destruction of gear when crashing at those speeds. Just for that reason alone, I want to see the limits being pushed even more, purely for the spectacle, and unfortunately that won't be possible with dual purpose sails.

I've sailed my jp135 foil board with severne foil glide 6.0 and fin no issue ... Not as good as pure slalom but still good fun

Another example: Sailworks 2 cam Flyer foil sail was also advertised for use on a fin board. The 3 cam Flyer FR foil sail is more stable / faster sail and not advertised for a fin board. However, I don't think either of these sails are pure foil "racing" sails. Isn't IQ foil sailing relatively minimum equipment requirement?

It must be Easy on your backhand. So you can have more fun🤙

Problem is that at the end we only get foil sails. Competition is never at winds that vin is quicker nowadays. Only speedsailing is special

Same rule should apply to boards as well then, one board for both disciplines.

fin slalom and foil slalom should be two seperate disciplines. its like mixing boxing and kickboxing into one discipline. very unfair.

Great view. best video

Valid point with only one type of racing sails. FOMO is big to have not the right gear for these or that conditions.

did you use the foil mast or the fin mast?? i have same sails and i did the same test with 5.8.. didnt like it at all

Pushing the reasoning further, why not one board covering fin and foil at PWA level ...

5or6 sails @ $1-1.5 euros is so affordable 😳

Hej Kaspar

Go iq-foil instead, problem solved ✌️