Understand that 1 this is a video almost 8 years old, many of the comments are videos that were shot either before or shortly after this to show different ways of using a SS 12 GA, this was also prior to the development with Short Lane Arms of the 12 GA-209 Primer Adapter which is now my go to for any BP use in my 12GA

You see this is the old Dave, useful information, building his reputation from 2011, no $300 knife ads for the "common man". Thanks for keeping these on KZfaq Dave. Your skills, ability to present and modesty are what have made you great and will always make you one of the most interesting Outdoors-man/Mountain Men ever to grace KZfaq! Cheers DHS

seems to me it would be easier to load the shell with this instead of cutting it off.

I did this , with a 10 gauge h & r , about fifteen years ago . the ammo is super expensive , so I went to shooting ranges to find enough hulls to make it worth wild . the nice thing is you can squib down to twelve gauge loads for smaller game or shoot round lead balls for deer . I just carry a fiber glass rod , with screwed in shotgun tip, for reloading , and it doubles as a walking stick. I make paper tubes , with powder, thick paper card and wad , then shot with an over card, for quick loading . I also bought antique reloading tools , and reload paper and plastic ten gauge hulls . the plastic shells end up with burn holes , so I save the high brass ends . I usually use shells for goose , and muzzleload for squirrels , and round balls for deer. I make my own black powder , and it cuts the price of shooting to nothing. all of this effort , seems to slow down the experience , and I enjoy it more.

This is a great video for 2 reasons. One is the increased flexibility with the use of an inexpensive, quality firearm, In a survival situation, every bit of flexibility is another way to stay alive. Secondly, this is a great example of "survival thinking". It is finding additional ways to use limited assets, that flexible thinking is the greatest asset of all. A couple of suggestions. A slip knot in the MIDDLE of your cord will let you scrub the inside, back and forth, while you stand on one end of the cord, and pull with the other, moving the barrel around the now stationary cleaning wad. A long, long time ago, I hunted with a Mexican who had a home made shotgun. He was a true DIY man, mainly for economy. He used donkey turds for wadding in his shotgun, and horse or perhaps cow shit would work too. It does give the gun smoke a distinct flavor, though.

This make me remember when I was I kid I used to open the shells when I would find them and dump out the shot and tape the shell to the end of my B.B. gun just so it would make the the sound.

Dave, thanks for this! I never thought of this before. SO versatile!

Hey David I've been watching your videos for a while now and I really enjoy them. I just received my 209 muzzleloader adapter for my 16 gauge that use to be my pappy's and I love it. I'll be using it this weekend on squirrel and rabbit. Thanks for your time and videos keep them coming.

You take your work very seriously and have put a lot of thought into all your videos. You have definitely taken it to the next level and I thank you and your family. Happy Thanksgiving.

If the shell is intact, why not load the powder, shot, and wads into the shell itself?

I learn from all your videos. Some are better than others and some have more info than others. This video is a true modern day survival tutorial of the highest quality, something EVERYONE should know and a real inspiration. Thank you again for all you do. Kudos and good luck in all your endeavors.

Dave, I love this series!! Keep up the great work. God bless. John

Superb video Dave. I just want to say how much I enjoy your videos and all that you have to offer us out here who love God and life as we were meant to live it while we're here. You truly are a gift to us all. What a great teacher you are. You certainly did not miss your 'calling'. Well done!

Thanks for another great video Dave! I always learn something when I watch your videos.

Dave I listened to you and bought myself my first firearm a Baikal Remington single shot 12ga, kicks like a mule but I love it

I just re-watched this again. I saw it years ago and IMHO represents the typical quality he brings to most of his videos. I am a great fan. This topic iis a great skill to know. If you add the skill to make black powder. You never have to run out of ammunition for you 12 gauge. Of course this stuff is a remote chance of have to rely on it, but that does not take away from the enjoyment and Self reliance such skills bring. Dave is all about those skills.

Love the videos. I picked up a New England firearms SB1 single shot a few weeks back at auction for $50- . Shot it last weekend w/ no issue. They are great simple guns, I have semi-auto rifles and pump shotguns, but I like my simple bolt action rifles and single shot 12g’s the best.

Dave I've been a watcher since you did the squirrel hunt with a woods made slingshot years ago, and i must also admit i quit watching a year or so ago due to you leaving the longhunter / versa shelter style behind but now your back in the old style and i'm watching again. Thank you Dave. I like the expanded coverage you've done with the black powder conversion on your 12 gauge, I think it explains alot more that was missed in the .410 episode you did with your son.

I can't believe I never thought of doing this, its so brilliant and yet so simple.

Great job! Nice to know and see the versatility of the single shot shotgun. I would have to agree, that in this mode of black powder, the 12ga would be the optimum choice.

The Kentucky Long Rifle was a hybrid of 2 earlier frontier guns. One was the German rifle, which had a rifled barrel but was much shorter, heavier, and had a larger caliber than the Kentucky. The other gun was the English fowling piece, which was smoothbore, but had a longer barrel and smaller caliber than a regular musket to improve accuracy. The fowling piece could fire a single round ball or multiple small shot. So, Dave's shotgun is much like a fowling piece in function.

Thanks for doing this series. I know how much work it is to make videos and you have really taken a lot of time to share your knowledge. Thanks.

Another excellent video, Dave!!! I too remember the .410/45 LC video, and would greatly appreciate a reposting of that video as well. Thank you for all that you do for this community and for posting such excellent videos!!!

Beautiful knife, Dave. Planning on buying one after I finish college!

Great videos! Always gets me back to the wild from this modern city life. Thanks

I have to say when this vidoe came out I started using this system and have been ever since. This system WORKS GREAT!!!, nothing else I can say the I have taken lots of small game using my 12ga, and 410 using this, to new folks I say again it works, and a modified choke.get a 209 adaptor when you can makes it alot easier. thank you Dave for all that you have shown us and still teach us.

I like the way you add accessories in the presentations , flat washers , sticks etc. . Thanks all

Very cool, thinking ahead, having multi-purpose materials to lighten the load and adapting modern gear when store bought rounds / supplies are not available, I like it! And...lol, no bare feet! Good to know your still going strong Dave.

thanks for these videos, it's very hard to find this good of information anywhere else, especially thanks for your time, please keep it up!

Dave, I look forward to that vid. This is very interesting to me. I have a old Hawkins flint lock. I like this option to replace the old Hawkins. Thus, my interest in this. Thank you for the feedback. Have a great thanksgiving and your service to our nation. (Vet here also)

One of your most interessting vids, Dave Nice!!

Most practical videos I've seen, keep up the good work. Awesome it's all about the tools

you really nailed your video about hunting wild boar with your flintlock rifle, enjoyed seeing your period correct clothing they looked bullitproof we liked your longer hair too it made you look the part , also the show and tell about the flintlock was educational. please keep bringing us your videos we find them enjoyable and educational thank you..

some of you cannot see the "pure Genius" of this adaptation.....got me thinking of doing the same with a handi rifle 45-70 and a .410 hull... thanks Dave.

Great video, Dave! Never thought of using my H&R for this! Man, you could carry a pound of GOEX or PYRODEX and a hundred primers for a heck of a lot less weight than a hundred rounds of 12. Sure, maybe not as high muzzle velocity, but it would most definitely work. Thanks!

Really like your video's Dave. I'm tryin out my single shot 12 ga. with your reloading technique today.Thank you for your videos and all your info !

I believe the point being missed by some commenting, is how Dave is showing everyone an inexpensive way to get into and learn black powder shooting with equipment you probably already have. Great video Dave! I still have my H&R shot gun in 18" stainless as a gift from my brother long ago.

This was my first gun and it was my grandfather's so it means a lot to me now to have it nice video and keep up the great channel GOD Bless

Watched this again...great video as I have done this a few times with my Rossi 12ga. Definite fun times and keeping in touch with REAL gun shooting.

Got my little Rossi breakaction! I like it more because you can put the .22LR adapter along with 50+ rounds of .22 in the stock, also I have some fire starting stuff in the handguard..

Other than not following the instructions of the manufacturer, I see no issues with this method of muzzleloading. In fact, I think its a great idea and breathes new life into our old single shot guns. I'll never teach this to my students, but I will to my buddies. Thanks for the video. gus , NMLRA/NRA Instructor Trainer.

Dave i saw my dad fix a single shot 12 in the field the hammer spring broke and he used a haksaw blade to replace the spring and we were hunting in a few mins works great i have did this also with a old 12ga i had good video Dave

I reload shotgun shells, 20 and 12 gauge. Black powder works great for shotguns with other modern components. Using smokeless powder and moderate loads, I get five reloads from a 2 3/4" plastic and six or seven from a 3" plastic. Black powder burns the plastic, so paper shells are better.

great vid! one question I have. Is it possible to reload the whole shell with the same grain of black powder and shot without cutting off the plastic?

Dave I have a single shot 16 gauge from new england arms. That I got when I was 14 I like it for it's ruged dependabilty. I have cerbal palsey I think I spelled it right because of this I have droped it gotten it muddy etc. and all I had to do was wipe it off and run a patch down the barrel and it still works as well as the day I got it just wanted to say thanks because of your videos and teachings I have brushed up on my skills and learned new skills

Thanks for sharing so much with us Dave.

Man, what a great video! I never thought about doing this with an H&R Pardner. Now I know and you have done a very effective job of teaching me. Thank you sir! Armed Mariner

Great video certainly taught me some new things and shows you a few items to keep handy in creating a good hunting bag...as they say learn something new everyday

Damn! I had this topper model for 35 years. I just gave it to my nephew. Wish I had seen this video before I did.

It would be nice if they made a model that came with a ram rod. Hulls are prone to getting stuck anyway.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but a quick tip: You can replace your barrel screw w/ a wing head screw/thumb screw (or whatever it is called) so you do not need tools to dismantle the shotgun.

Awesome, i was browsing 12 gauge chamber adapters and found this, really neat

Thanks for sharing more awesome info, Dave!

Keep the primers in their original boxes and trays. It keeps them seperated and not able to contact one another. If you place them together in a plastic vial they will contact one another and have the potential to explode like a handgrenade if dropped. I had a gunsmith friend loose and eye and part of the use of his hand when he was handloading and dropped his 35mm film container vial of primers and was grabbing for it when it hit the conrete and exploded. Don't place your primers in anything but what you bought them in.

Thanks Dave this is great! I'm trying to find the video on how to make tallow now!

this is an awesome video, this is my second time watching it today, very factual too

@iguire It's not about times fired, it's about getting the corrosive residue from the burned black powder cleaned out before it starts corroding the barrel. You don't want to wait more than a couple hours if you can help it. The quicker the better. Of course if it gets dirty it never hurts to push a hunk of rag through it until you can get to a good source of water & soap or solvent better yet if possible. A wet rag or other patch material if you'll have time for it to dry out before you load

Exellent vid Dave,happy thanksgiving.

its used to remove a ball from the barrel if you have a squib round or if the powder doesnt catch( it looks like a kind of double cork screw.). they typically screw right into the end of the ram rod so it can be used to extract the ball

love your videos Dave!!!

Wow Dave.. Excellent video brother! Great stuff. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

I wonder how hard it would be to convert a shell into a bp primer nipple? You can make your own BP primers with coke cans and toy caps if you could convert one it would make it quicker to work that way and add a valuable option not only to the gun in the video but all the NEF/Rossi matched pair guns. This is an awesome video, thank you for what you are doing.

This is awesome! I have an old Stevens single barrel 12 gauge that breaks down without a tool. I got it for 50 bucks, because the bracket that holds the fore grip on was busted. But I got the replacement on numrich for 10 bucks. It is vault tight now. I use my Mossberg 500 for hunting now soley-although I am going to have to try this now, for fun. Maybe I will see if I can run a modern take on what the frontiersmen used to do, and put my powder and shot in small manilla envelopes, so you can tear a corner, pour, then use the envelope as wadding.

the muzzle loading aspect of the video is when EVERYTHING has gone to hell, and the only thing left is your wits and using what you have to keep you alive...every ounce of stuff you have to haul around, is a step you might not make, or live to take...ounces weigh tons, at the end of the day. good video, and informative. and as always: semper fi, carry on!!

Well, I just usually get one more round of use out of my spent shot shells and reload them with my home made black powder. I usually make a dozen here a dozen there in the evenings with different size shots and slugs. No reloading equippment needed, only a nail and dowel. Actually, I use the plastic container of a used 5ml syringe I got for my goats from Agway. The syringe is a good inexpensive powder measure too if you cut off the very tip of it. The syringe container works great both as a small ram and as a funnel too. One end is tapered and if you cut it down it serves a dual purpose as powder/shot funnel and a ram. I think it's $0.49/piece new at Agway stores. Surely beats the heck out of paying 14 Bucks for a plastic powder measure. I don't bother to clean and reuse plastic shells after black powder shooting. They are messy, plus you can pick them up everywhere. But I found they work great because, the higher heat of BP softens the plastic shell, that swells up and snugs real tight against the chamber wall and gives an exceptionally very good seal. If I wipe the chamber, I usually hardly even get a slight, faint graphite looking fauling, coating the chamber even after firing 10-15 rounds out of it. I still check it every few rounds or so but it works like a charm so far. But yeah, the barrel needs to get cleaned asap after done firing or else.

if you place your primers in ANY other container be sure to place wadding over the top of them, if they rattle ,they Will go BOOM. safer in the box.the priming compound is SHOCK SENSITIVE and it will not take much to explode!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be Carefull out tnere!!!!

What about using slugs or sabbots? Since it is pretty much a muzzleloader, I don't see any difference other than the amount of blackpowder. Also, I am assuming, you can do this with any single shot rifle. Am I right? Another question is how to make primers? Thanks!

First I would like to say thanks for all the knowledge you share with us. I to would like to see more on the .410 I have an M6 scout and love to carry this gun in my pack due to it's size. I would guess the loads are just downsized a bit but still would love to see what you can do.

i just got some solid brass shells for loading black powder loads the best thing i have ever used and my loads have never gone bad and u load it like a real 12 ga load only with a thin cardboard cap 3/4 in. seal with wax or glue a light glue

@Sktrtrsh yes, you can do this with any shotgun shell. as for the .45 colt, he already has a .410/.45 colt adapter.

dave, this is an awesome video brother, this same shotguns been sitting in my closet for months cause its been replaced with a pump shotgun, this def makes me want to pull it out and give her a new spin on things. thanks man!

Thruda Hoop thank you for the information on the primers I will not use my pill botels any more

Black powder can be homemade and in theory you'd never run out of ammo (small river stones will sub for shot) but how do you make homemade primers?

@tacticalfumble Thats one of the benefits of using a patch, it protects the barrel.

Hi Dave, Thank you for all that you do, I've learned more from you in just a couple of months than I've learned my whole life. Would there be any drawl backs to using the white gun powder? The reason I'm asking is that I thought it was much cleaner burning, therefore, easier to clean.

What if you were to use .177 Daisy BB's instead of the larger shot? I mean I guess you could consider it "Birdshot", but IMO, it would be a better pattern for smaller game, such as the rabbit target. Just throwing this out there as an option.

I just want to know if foaming cleaner and lubricant will work the same if it's in your pack

Another great video! I see where a few are questioning about loading an empty shell with the components? I am not so sure one could load all of this in an empty shell, without fear of an accidental discharge, compared to traditional loading and packing as you showed in the video??? Black powder is fickle and tends to be unpredictable.....or precisely predictable in this case! Be safe Brother and keep educating us!!!!

Great video Dave. I had no idea that was possible. Happy Thanksgiving

Would this work for a side by side as well? Have you developed a load for shooting slugs?

I live in pike county ky luv ya Dave! Dual survivor sucks without ya!

Man this whole channel is freaking genius. You've definitely taught me alot and I will surely pass as much of this info down as possible, so, you've affected a lot of folks man. Thanks a lot. Also, are there any schools similar to yours you would recommend in the Houston/Southeast Texas area?

What if you just slightly loosened the primer hole so it still held a primer securely but didnt need to be seated, then you could put it in after you had loaded the barrel and remove it from the brass after shooting. Then you would also only need one piece of brass that could stay in place. And perhaps sand off part of the rim if the extractor is catching it. Just some brainstorming.

Wow,i never realized all the things you can do with these single barrel shotguns. Very cool.

Very ingenious!! Thanks Dave.

Question: Would the graduations on the powder measure be accurate for the shot as well as the powder? The shot weighs more than the powder, right?

Great video Dave. Interesting info and sales counter talk. I sell and am familiar with the H&R single shot shotguns.

If you drill the primer hole a little larger you can actually keep the brass in the shotgun and easily replace the primers by tipping them out. I do it all the time for cowboy fastdraw.

@wildernessoutfitters Thanks for the vid brother, you inspired me to pick up a HR single shot 12 ga at the local pawn shop. Looking forward to trying this this weekend.

pretty awesome....! I just did not get one point - did, you use some kind of fat for the muzzle preservation, plese?

Hodgdon Triple 7 cleans even easier, and has no sulfer, so it can go longer with out cleaning. Thought I'd mention that. Great idea, Dave!

Question: would it work to re-prime the brass, fill it with the powder charge, then put wax over, it to have a pre-primed charge? Then, all you'd have to do is pop the charge into the barrel, drop some shot with the wad, and you're good to go! That should work, right? If not, why wouldn't it?

Great video, I have been talking to a couple guys about doing just this and I will refer them to this video. Thanks.

I believe the intent of this video is options one person can use if you are in a pinch. Great video.... keep on thinking......

Any thoughts on using a pump action for this, like a Mossberg 500 or 590?

what i do with my gun to clean the barrel is i take a piece of cotton cloth (multi purpose) and tie it to some paracord and i put the cord down the barrel and pull the cloth through it has always worked like a dream for me and saves the trouble of taking the cover off of the barrel. also i put a small fishing sinker on the opposite end of the cord to make it go down the barrel easier

Very good video and cleaning the weapon after using it is the key and you went over that very well.

Thanks good vedio. I am new to Black powder and found this very informative. again thanks !

wow I never would have thought of this thanks so much for your vids

As usual, another great video Dave! I have been trying to find a Pathfinder knife like your’s but, every place I have been able to check says they are out of them! Could you point me in the right direction to get one? Thanks and hope to hear from you when you have a minute!