We became "vax hesitant" after my son's vax injury.... I'm no longer vax hesitant. I'm not even interested. And I should have every right to deny vaccines for my son and his younger brothers. Most people don't know that in California, the state government has the right to take your children away if they are in need of life saving medical care but aren't vaccinated and you refuse to vaccinate them. They will say, your child needs a heart transplant, but can't be put on the heart transplant list until up to date on vaccines, if you refuse, we will call Cps for medical neglect, they'll take custody and grant vaccination. It's called medical kidnapping and happening more than people know. Most don't know that in California, Drs are no longer able to give medical exemptions (like what my son now has).. only the "state government" can give them and in the law it states that parents can't claim medical exemptions for sibling's of a child that died from a vax. So if your child DIES from a vax, your other children are still required to get them. This whole thing has gone over and beyond evil and don't think for a second covid vax and the new Mrna dna vaccines won't be put on the childhood schedule and forced as well. This should be a line drawn for every Christian . Have the foresight to see where this is heading. Please 🙏

What you seem to fail to realize is that if you know good and evil then you ARE good and evil. You can't have one without the other that's part of your freewill from God. It's polarity which is a pole which is the number 1. Good and evil are just different degrees of the same thing. You can't get rid of evil unless you give up your freedoms. You can only balance evil out. Pretty much you have a form of Godliness but you deny its power. Most of the instructions of scripture is written for the initiated to understand. You're the ones with the stupor, and everytime you read the words of Moses a purple veil that christ tore into two covers your hearts. HEART, HEAR T, HE ART. Our father who ARTS in the heavens. From Red 🙌 to Blue 🙏 or from 2 to ONE.

@@angieruthw What kind of “vaccine injury” did your son sustain??

When Doug said "besides common sense" so matter of factly, I nearly shot coffee out of my nose laughing. Perfect answer!

@@justinmoody6721 Lol. Especially if youve had it. That’s the one i cant even understand --- “Vaccination 💉 and getting covid 🤒 both confer an immunity advantage, but they are not the same. Studies, starting with the very first one in Israel, show that vaccinated individuals have a 27 times higher risk of having symptomatic infection as compared to those having a prior covid disease.” And vacc immunity mostly wears off. - Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard 🏫 University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Developed the CDC vax eval system, before being fired recently. Source: his interview here on yt by jimmy dore.

Well, there's the one Doug won't acknowledge except to dismiss anyone who mentions it as an anti semite. He could take another look at that one, assuming he has the stones.

@@harbinger6753 Ah you have a conspiracy theory about the Jews.. very brave and original!

@@aallen5256 yeah, it's not like anyone who mentions j-ish power gets their life destroyed or anything.

@@harbinger6753 Oh, can you give examples of anyone?

@@aallen5256 David Irving, Fred Leuchter, Ernst Zundel, to name a few who have been jailed and had everything taken from them. Others have soldiered on more successfully, but had their professional careers stunted, been censored, and been made into pariahs. People like Andrew Anglin, Nick Fuentes, E Michael Jones, Steven Anderson come to mind. Countless people you've never heard of who have been canceled, fired, lost relationships for discussing this topic openly. It is illegal in Canada, England, Australia, Germany, Austria, and dozens of other countries to question the holocaust, or to spread 'anti-semitic' information. They put little old ladies in prison for it. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here, but it's hard to believe anyone is unaware of this information at this point.

They were an uninformed slave to the narrative in October of 2021.

@@craigdesjardins3764 this is true but even the risk averse mob of prominent medical leaders are left to admit what they saw in January.

the vaccine is ineffective but natural immunity is up, so no we don't need more vaccines

So have you heard that a company is now working on a “contagious” vaccine? Now that’s terrifying.

@@jaquirox6579 no I have not heard that. You’re probably mistaken. Gonna need some evidence for that, or you’re purely speculating.

These "Great Reset" Con Artists don't see it in that light - as Medical only. They see it as a sign of our willingness to SUBMIT. Without QUESTION. Without OBJECTIONS. The unwary & unwise are their prey.

He certainly must 🤦🏻‍♀️

Right?! And if pastors were telling people NOT to vax, he'd be condemning that.

Because what is proclaimed from the pulpit should touch ethics, and what you do or don’t do medically is part of that. Pastors should be telling people to avoid the kill shot at all costs because biblical ethics would teach us, at the very least, that prudence avoids unnecessary risks.

Because he's convinced and then quit doing the research.

What a stupid point of view, congratulations!

@@andrehanderson How is that stupid? If the government gave you a stinky brown nugget and told you to eat it because it would make you healthier. Would you eat it? If they told you they don't know the ingredients and you cannot sue the manufacturer for any adverse effects, would you still eat it? It cannot be "un-eaten" so would you shove that stinky brown nugget in your mouth, happily chew it up and swallow it without question because they said it would help you?

This is true for all vaccines. Although we do know ingredients. I would assume the ingredients for the covid vaccine are similar, which is why I won’t be getting it.

yep, you get a special masters from the manufacturer in the 'vaccine court', which is not a real court with a real judge and a jury of your peers.

The only immunity these vaccines seem to confer is immunity from Being sued

Same. I hesitated before listening….but my love for Doug’s wit overcame the hesitancy……

Michael: people should read: The Madness of Crowds, Mc Kay, 1874 (?) The same title by Douglas Murray. Stampedes usually injure someone.

He literally didn’t lie once??

The best thing to come out of all of this is the exposing of the false teachers and fake prophets

@@Ephesians-yn8ux amen!

It is so liberating to melt down all the Big Eva idols that the Church has worshiped for the last few decades. If it's proper church discipline to expel the immoral brethren who refuse to repent, then Moore would be just one of many. These men (and some women) have done horrible damage to the body of Christ. And who knows what they've been doing in secret... I'm done with all of them. They're working with the forces of darkness and I think most of us can see it.

That's a lie. I've never been of health and wealth Christian and I will not get the abortion related Vax. Period done. When the Medical Elite + Government + Business + Big tech + Big pharma + the lost world, all say the same thing the world over, then I know Biblically I'm not to participate in their ungodly acts of satan!

Exactly, I follow the FLCCC (they are not anti vaccine), they are pro let's throw everything at it that works, including Ivermectin, and even some over the counter vitamins etc.. like Vit D3, which has been proven to lower risk if its in a good range. They have speculated and I think rightly so, that the overall deaths would be dramatically lower had the powers to be not censored, cancelled, fired, and so forth, those who disagreed with their vaccine only narrative.

Yes! Amazing how we never hear about that.

We have the Archbishop of Canterbury & world economic forum member saying the same. Babylonian builders

They're called wolves.

They’re not gullible. They’re deceitful.

@@RightResponseMinistries The people who believe them are gullible - thus, evangelicalism!

Haha

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Pretty much. 😆😅

Wow! Incredible

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Dropping big pharma legal immunity would be a big confidence booster too!

@@johns512 CDC cannot drop immunity to Pharma for vaccine injuries because it was signed into law in 1986. Since then the number of CDC mandated vaccines for children from birth to 18 yrs. old is 68 beginning with a Hep B shot before a baby makes it out of the delivery room.

Glad you got out of that church! Hopefully you found a good one now

Yikes…. Shutting down thoughtful Biblical discussions… sounds like the definition of anti Christ huh?!

Sounds like your evangelical church is way different than mine.

Not our evangelical church!

Isn’t it sad when we are looking for a refuge from this evil world and find ourselves being gaslighted by so-called pastors when we start connecting the eschatological dots?

the STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE is indeed troubling and mind-boggling !

We're learning that things are not cut and dry among believers. Some of the Most godly people I know respectfully tow the line on all directives. Other cantankerous family members are loudly aware it's a con. Perplexing to say the least. It does make me want to hit my head against the wall from time to time.

mRna is gene therapy, not a vaccine. A Bayer exec gloats about not telling people what it really is. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNF6art9urO6Z3U.html

Excellent point-the WP is not going to Doug Wilson to get his response to this topic. I wonder why that might be…..?🤣😂

mRna is gene therapy, not a vaccine. A Bayer exec gloats about not telling people what it really is. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNF6art9urO6Z3U.html

The church is under a strong delusion on the subject of vaccines. If only they would do their homework outside the pharmaceutical propaganda we were all indoctrinated to believe. Instead they just parrot the propaganda.

@@Pablo19625 LOLOL

Are you referring to COVID-19 vaccines specifically or vaccines in general?

Good point. One poss edit to your comment is eliminating the last three words

@@ibperson7765 ...lol

@Kizito Kanu the no part lol.

Mostly dead

As a pastor this is the case. We are told not to go see anyone. The hospitals are the worst who even denied us access as our parent's children.

Yes, the same here. Then, I saw the treachery going on against good doctors and vast research showing simple solutions and the unbelievable betrayal of the big agencies that hurt so many. I already knew that it was not God's solution because of how it was made, but then, after that, the rest of the story unfolded. Now, I wouldn't use even a vaccine that doesn't use poor babies' cells.

They do with all vaccines.

I am a Christian, and I deplore abortions of convenience. That said, a fetal cell line is extremely different from a baby, and without fetal cell lines, many would suffer needlessly or even die, and the developing child's death would be entirely in vain. Might this possibly fall under the heading of bringing good out of evil, or is that the prerogative of God alone? I'm interested in learning; I have no axe to grind.

@Pharmakeia Truth- Here is where I would need Hebrew, or Strong's, to think about the relationship or difference between "in" the womb or belly, and "from" there. These words are prepositions in English, and their purpose is to show the physical orientation of two objects relative to each other (yes, I'm a grammarian). So I would need to carefully consider whether a baby IN the womb is the same as, or different from, a baby that has (come) FROM the womb (just as bread hot IN the oven is not precisely the same thing as bread hot FROM the oven). That said, we are still talking about a BABY in either case.

Interesting. Can you provide a link? 👍

@@jarednel There is very little Google-fu involved in finding the source from the keywords I already provided.

@@johndougherty7216 I thought you might do a Matthew 5:41-42 for me. 😜 Oh well. Off to Google it is. 😅

As I was trying to read your comment, KZfaq jumped my screen down to 2 comments below yours…. Never seen that before!

@@jarednel use Duck Duck Go

I am so sorry about your father. That must be heartbreaking...

I'm so sorry. 😞

Every elderly person I personally know got harmed after the 2nd and 3rd jab! One got a stroke, another developed blinding vision problems, three developed cardiovascular disease, and another had a heart attack! One lives in FL, one in TN, another in Wa state the others in Ca. We have long-term side effects to go yet.

@@jilesbo9175 every elderly person I know didn’t.

@@DM-dk7js Doesn't negate the harms caused to those that got it! Especially since A) it didn't do what it was promised to do and B) it was patently unnecessary!

@Lady HumbleBee. Thank you for your comment. I agree. I was vaccine injured at 5 years old . Never found in my extensive research any reason to be in favor of them.

Gina, if they don't believe in Discernment they're not Christians, they're most likely false converts. The Holy Spirit gives us discernment & shapes it in us as we develop a Biblically informed conscience.

Me too

LOL they are vaccines they’re not gene therapy that’s ridiculous

Traditional vaccines require injecting you with a small dose of the virus itself. MRNA vaccines don’t. That’s an advantage. Not a disadvantage lol.

@@DM-dk7js And how do you know this? They have not gone through the rigorous testing other vaccines have and they've certainly not been transparent.

@@frontdeskstaff9359 yea they have. mRNA vaccines have existed for about a decade. Most of them are fully FDA approved now too aren’t they?

I hear they are coming out with a traditional vaccine in the next few months.

Stop listening

He’s extremely influential and well known in pretty much all of the reformed camp, especially reformed Baptists part of the SBC. My former pastor of 7 years follows him heavily

Lol oh right. tHE GrATE reSeT derp

Don’t participate in them redefining words, like “disease”. It’s a freaking virus! A SARS virus! Period! I’m not yelling at you btw. I’m yelling at them and their stupidity. 😂

Amen Chuck “Vaccination and getting covid both confer an immunity advantage, but they are not the same. Studies, starting with the very first one in Israel, show that vaccinated individuals have a 27 times higher risk of having symptomatic infection as compared to those having a prior covid disease.” And vacc immunity mostly wears off. - Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard 🏫 University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Developed the CDC vax eval system, before being fired recently. Source: his interview here on yt by jimmy dore.

@@jaquirox6579 HIV is a virus. AIDS is the disease that can happen because of the virus. Sars-cov2 is a virus. Covid19 is the disease that can happen because of the virus. Epstein barr is a virus. Mono is the disease that can happen because of the virus. Varicella-zoster is a virus. Chicken pox and shingles are diseases that can happen because of the virus. Rubella is a virus. Measles is a disease that can happen because of the virus. Poliovirus is a virus. Polio or poliomyelitis is a disease that can happen because of the virus. In everyday talk, people mix around the name of the virus and the disease all the time. No big deal. However, it is not inaccurate to say that a disease is happening. A Sars-cov2 infection can cause you to have covid19 disease! Nobody is redefining the word "disease," as you stated. People are using the words casually and interchangeably, but they are not redefining them. Actual disease and death are happening at a very sad rate. Please don't minimize that or the damage that viruses can do.

@@lydialutz my body has been fighting off almost all of these viruses for over 40 years... please don't underestimate the immune system that God gave you

@@shaunsteele8244 We have developed inoculation programs for most of these viruses specifically because the immune system needs some help coping with them - Smallpox, Chickenpox, Tetanus, Diptheria, Hepatitis, Polio, Measles, Mumps, Whooping Cough.. etc.! The human body, whether God gave it us or not, could do with more than a little improvement!! Think on how famine wouldn’t be a problem if we could efficiently photosynthesise!

Wow that is an interesting observation!

@Marty Griffin. Thank you for speaking up. God bless you for your service to your community,these are not easy times to be in law enforcement.

Refusing vaccines seems widespread here, but I’ve not heard about refusing PCR tests, or testing in general?! Why?

I refuse the PCR tests too. Just flat out refused everything from the get go. I got sick during delta wave, actually I was sitting on my floor praying when the fever just whooshed right over me. Since I was totally in the presence of God, didn’t worry one single second, even as my family fell sick like dominoes. All I had was a high fever and very little else besides loss of taste and smell, which was bizarre. Lasted a few days. Done. Same for my family. My husband has no choice but to take the PCR tests for work since he refused the vaccine. But they’re just dumb. They literally show positives for colds. The inventor came out from the very beginning and said his tests were never meant to test for viruses. He was mocked and attacked and yet...they had no problem promoting his very invention.

​@@JeweLinHisHans Yourself and all your family got sick; you had a high fever for days and lost your sense of taste and smell. Really helpful divine intervention.. If only all those people in the ICU's were better connected with God. P.S. PCR tests are exceptionally accurate and reliable, much more than antigen tests. They are validated against many different coronaviruses and common respiratory viruses, including influenza, so as not to give false-positive results.

A Allen I’ve had worse colds. I don’t take a test for a cold. I don’t vaccinate for a cold either. And I’m quite thankful for the natural immunity it gave my family. We haven’t gotten sick again. And yes, I wish everyone could be connected to God.

@@JeweLinHisHans Has a cold ever made you lose your sense of taste and smell?! Its just not big or clever to try to undermine this virus that’s killed nearly 1million Americans. Natural immunity is extremely unreliable in comparison to vaccination, as is relying on divine intervention.

Yeah. These pastors should be asking the invisible man in the sky for a solution instead 😂

If you think it is not in an elder's lane to encourage vaccination, than you would probably agree it is not in their lane to discourage it either, right?

He surely is.

Still comfortable with your decision?

Can we be any more demanding of scientists @Clark Harris, DAOM? Vaccine researchers and developers, you created a 2 dose + booster vaccination that has been statistically shown to greatly reduce deaths and hospitalizations, but I think we should only have one dose. Why doesn't anybody listen to me? While you are at it, could you please make the TDaP vaccine better so people don't need boosters for that either? While you are at it, could you please make the polio vaccine a 1-dose shot to get lifelong protection instead of 4 doses that it is currently. In my mind, we should really only have these things once. While you are at it, could you just get rid of the flu shot too even though it saves some lives? In mind we shouldn't have those for mutating viruses. Could you also get rid of the measles vaccine? It is seasonal and I don't think we should be vaxxing for seasonal viruses. Vaccine researchers and developers, you created a vaccine that has been statistically shown to greatly reduce deaths and hospitalizations, but I just prefer my own immunity. My preference is what really matters, not the statistics.

@@lydialutz 👏👏👏👏

Excellent point! And that's exactly what happened! They took a virus that was on par with the flu and showcased every aspect, detail and nuance about it ad nauseum nightly until they beat a good % of the public into submission!

@@jilesbo9175 I had covid and it was far worse than the flu. I was out of work for three weeks with a fever for 14 days and my oxygen saturation was dropping into the 80's. I get that people are phased but to act like that severity of illness is universal is only indicative of living in that bubble called KZfaq comments section. Crazy how I'm almost hospitalized and I'm told it was nothing.

@Steohen McCrary I know folks who had it and were feeling unwell and inconvenienced for 2-3 days than back to work. What’s your point? Sorry that you took it hard. A lot of people didn’t…

@@stankwilliamsjr.8949 Dude, a lot of people died.. hundreds of thousands. And many more were hospitalised. In like every country. Diminishing it isn’t big.

@A Allen I assume you’d agree than, that it was a massive “miscalculation” not to promote early treatments for Covid rather than the irrational insistence that a vaccine was the sole solution. Imagine how many lives could have been saved. Dude.