Valefisk's Hurricane Diplomacy

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CaptainMeme and Ezio commentate and (attempt to) analyse the legendary Valefisk Diplomacy game, Board Gaming In Extreme Weather, where Teddy (Turkey) plays through Hurricane Ian.
Original Video: • Board Gaming in Extrem...
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Diplomacy is a negotiation-based board game set during World War One. 7 players each control one great power (England, France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Russia, and Turkey) and fight for control of Europe, using their diplomatic skill to make covert deals with one another and to backstab their friends.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 S01
00:19:29 F01
00:27:40 W01
00:38:20 S02
00:49:23 F02
01:08:55 W02
01:19:48 S03
01:27:56 F03
01:36:42 W03
01:44:20 S04
01:53:27 F04
02:03:44 W04
02:12:17 S05
02:16:47 F05
02:22:47 W05
02:26:38 S06
02:32:31 F06
02:35:57 W06
02:40:22 S07
02:45:24 F07
02:49:49 W07
02:52:43 S08
02:56:56 F08
03:01:10 W08
03:07:10 S09
03:12:23 F09
03:16:01 W09
03:18:34 S10
03:22:32 F10
03:25:15 W10
03:26:12 S11
03:28:36 F11

Пікірлер: 82

@Solll0 Ай бұрын

F03 was basically just me panic typing something down as teddy suddenly disconnects at the end of the turn without writing something down, as for the following year teddy was somewhat back but reluctant to actually attack dyno(russia), rue(austria) or vale(italy), so i'm trying to convince teddy to attack anyone, even then when he invade italy vale tries to stongarm teddy into backing off, meanwhile in the video when vale leaves for a different call he was clearly bluffing against teddy and is desperate for help. When (S05) the coalition of france, italy, germany and uk forms teddy does "convince" vale to take iberia by leaving rome, but it is coordinated with the rest of the coalition. It's just that lynx(france) messes up several times not taking back build points. In S06 i don't think there was any real movement it's just all hold and support orders. Army build Bul is what happend but is blaintantly not correct, doesn't really matter as it holds next turn anyways. Maivi(uk) is practically not independet as she is just doing what lynx(france) and pedejo(germany) is telling her to do, which is why she trust lynx not to mess with london. By F07 vale(italy) has more or less left the coalition and is just attaching himself to teddy(turkey) which is why teddy(who's internet is back) does not try to attack him, he does want to keep rue alive, but is convinced not to by vale. And teddy was trying not to attack dyno(russia), the times he has was my doing. During S08 i think that's when the remaning coalition tries to get the stalement life in effect, and by this point everyone is tired so yeah the 6 army france is us not noticing he only has 5 points, and maivi(uk) wants to end the game and is planing to betray the coalition. She was annoyed with the other two who had backstabed her earlier, and again everyone was tired and wanted the game to end Pretty funny amount of missplays that we don't really see until you blatantly point them out, i think seeing criticism of our games are kinda funny. And we kinda always forget armenia exist. Oh well

@kubaxwot4629 Ай бұрын

My guy is using a hotspot and a laptop in a middle of a hurricane to play diplomacy

@thegeneralissimo6172 Ай бұрын

He loves diplomacy what else is there to say?

@cisarovnajosefina4525 Ай бұрын

And he was winning😂

@iankubrick2514 Ай бұрын

When turkey started switching between Teddy and Sol it got so good

@dynamo8846 Ай бұрын

Now I would love to make comments on this just as the previous game, But god damn I have no memories form this game. Im just following what I did and go "Oh I I did that? Why?" every turn.

@Chickymasala Ай бұрын

This game was a flaming trainwreck of a diplomacy game. Afaik only you and Pedejo seemed to be playing somewhat straight: - Rue is new, and dies. - Vale is a stinking rat. Also Italy - Lynx is drunk - Teddy is Teddy - Maivi throws out of sheer mald I would’ve loved to witness the emotional damage Pedejo was left with trying to negotiate with a pack of absolute baboons 😂

@chalmersmathew4831 Ай бұрын

@@Chickymasala Italy and Maivi short brain moment

@ianalex9062 5 күн бұрын

@@ChickymasalaPedejo getting stabbed in Denmark near the end. Jesus, I can’t even imagine the emotional turmoil.

@janehrahan5116 Ай бұрын

"im so cooked"

@Imperial_Squid Ай бұрын

"RATS, YOU'RE ALL RRRRATS"

@polarvortex6496 Ай бұрын

I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship. I eagerly await the next hour-long Valefisk diplomacy video and the next multi-hour-long breakdown. Truly, a pipeline of renown.

@Phrinn Ай бұрын

next time Vale does one of these games for a video you have to get him on as a 3rd commentator to give context to his moves

@poohssmartbrother1146 Ай бұрын

I think it would be hilarious for 1 of you to play with Valefisk's gang as one of the weaker powers.

@isaacshultz8128 29 күн бұрын

Thatd be scary

@nevinmyers1245 29 күн бұрын

the weaker powers aren't really weak enough for that to be balanced imo

@roowco1 29 күн бұрын

it has to be austria in that case

@JellyMyst 28 күн бұрын

@@nevinmyers1245 That's not the question. The question is if Vale and co. know that.

@ianalex9062 5 күн бұрын

@@JellyMystOh they know. It’s explicitly talked about in the video.

@oliviapg Ай бұрын

58:28 "I do realize this is talking a whole lot about something that hasn't happened here" could be the motto of this channel and we love you for it

@EuniverseCat 29 күн бұрын

hi olivia

@oliviapg 29 күн бұрын

@@EuniverseCat would say it's surprising to see you here but actually it's not that surprising lol

@Sock-qv9wr Ай бұрын

Props to that genius viewer.

@maximalmegaminx7502 Ай бұрын

Glad I could help

@tanker00v25 Ай бұрын

You should know that you are a hero

@sleepysnake544 Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@DiploStrats 29 күн бұрын

You're a legend - thank you again!

@xanderalaniz2298 29 күн бұрын

Ezio needs to know that the player who played Britain this time was the one who played Turkey in their previous discussion (and won)

@oengus Ай бұрын

The original Valefisk video was incredibly entertaining to watch, and it is incredibly interesting to see an analysis of this one too

@goksir5845 28 күн бұрын

i have never played diplomacy, doubt i'll get the chance to, but honestly i just love the background noise of two nerds nerding out together and shitting on noobs in an understanding and intrigued fashion

@Bankosek Ай бұрын

6:30 If Austria moved the right way, they could loose (almost) all of their centers. 27:00 Austia leaves all their centers empty.

@bookwyrm5599 29 күн бұрын

A few weeks ago after watching that valefisk video, your first valevisk commentary popped up. Out of boredom and curiousity, I watched it, and it has changed me. I've since watched many of your videos (50+ hours), including the longest game of all time. the whole series. only slightly regret it. In addition, I played a whole game in real life with some friends (which I didn't lose!) and am now getting into online Diplomacy. Thank you guys for giving me something to do this summer i'm like obsessed with this game now and it's all your fault.

@shapeturtle 29 күн бұрын

I've been playing over the board diplo for a couple years, found the channel a couple months ago and started to get into online diplo. Didn't even know it existed until then lmao

@DiploStrats 28 күн бұрын

Really great to hear - glad you've enjoyed these and gotten into the game! And congrats on not losing :D

@Nathanael_Forlorn Ай бұрын

I appreciate the microphone upgrade for ezio! Great investment, as this is overwhelmingly an audio podcast with some little image support. :D

@Armund_Wolffe Ай бұрын

this was an awesome game to listen to lmao

@Kilimanjarooo Ай бұрын

capitalising on valefisk, are we?

@petrorlov2599 Ай бұрын

Smaller communities gotta take every chance to grow

@DiploStrats Ай бұрын

shamelessly

@Imperial_Squid Ай бұрын

@@DiploStratsas you should, Vale got me into the humour of the game, your videos have deepened my understanding of the strategy, everyone's a winner when creators cross pollinate videos

@kiruuttori8539 Ай бұрын

@@Imperial_Squid I agree, I have been watching them occasionally after vale announced the first video in their discord

@Jp-ew4mp Ай бұрын

@@DiploStratsreal diplomacy grindset

@dismasyves 29 күн бұрын

As someone who came from valefisk... I'm glad I found this channel because there's something about listening to diplomacy dissection that is super relaxing I'm enjoying the longest game vids rn, but my favorite so far is the "most ridiculous" game, I really like putting that on in the background while working on stuff 😂

@evanburns3134 Ай бұрын

Can we get a video about some famous (infamous) instances of diplomacy cheating?

@DiploStrats 28 күн бұрын

It's a bit of a tough one to make, because a lot of 'cheating' can be attributed to people just making innocent mistakes on adjudication, and although you'd suspect they'd know, with the games being as intense as they are you can't really say for sure. It's possible I make a DiploShort on it at some point, but a more likely topic would be near-cheating - tactics that would probably be considered cheating in other games (like leaving a phone in a negotiation room to record conversations), but that are/were viewed as legitimate in Diplomacy games.

@DensetsuVII Ай бұрын

Oh a professional look at valefisk's meme-games! That sounds like a fun way to spend an aftertnoon~ What are these videos about the longest game ever... *30 hours later* Hm... I should probably subscribe at this point huh

@thenandnow1113 Ай бұрын

Amazing, I just stumbled across the last Valefisk commentary and now see this one. Perfect timing

@joren3275 Ай бұрын

Taking two SC from Austria in fall 1901 “it would just be over” yeah as would this new player’s enthusiasm for learning this game probably 🙃

@DiploStrats 28 күн бұрын

Absolutely :D Here we see the flaw of analysing casual games like they're tournament ones!

@horstschlemmer9578 Ай бұрын

These are super entertaining. But if you see their actual moves it is obvious they have no idea of what they are doing. Makes it even funnier.

@connorbrooks7501 Ай бұрын

Great video!! I recently started learning about the Versailles diplomacy variant. It would be really cool to watch a commentary of a Versailles game if you and Ezio feel up to it

@K-H-28 28 күн бұрын

Another good commentary. You keep on mentioning how hard it is for Italy to get & hold 5 centers, let alone lead a game. Is there a video by you or others that has Italy either coming to a draw holding the most SCs or soloing?

@DiploStrats 28 күн бұрын

A lot of tournament games covered on this channel (and on channels like the Diplomacy Broadcast Network) have very strong Italy performances / wins - I'd recommend 'The Greatest Diplomacy Game' as a good one. The Longest Game of All Time series also has a strong Italy although it takes a long time to get there!

@LlamasAtMidnight Ай бұрын

Hell yeah, another Vape fisk analysis

@audiosurfarchive Ай бұрын

🚨DIPLO🚨STRATS🚨

@cypherfunc Ай бұрын

1:07:51 Yup, that's the best description of this channel. And it's why I've watched every single video. 😂

@miningglalie 27 күн бұрын

i came from vale and i absolutely love these analysis vids, but i have to say that as someone who's colorblind (daltonism), it's hard to tell apart the colors of russia and england, and turkey and italy, and those countries being contiguous in their theatres makes it a bit harder to follow whose units are whose, for example. dunno how you choose the colors but maybe more distinct ones would be better for accessibility ^^ definitely gonna check out the backlog of vids on the channel, diplomacy is fascinating

@DiploStrats 21 күн бұрын

Hey, thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! We tried Backstabbr's colourblind mode for a previous video (I think it was an Olympus one), but the comments suggested that while it helped a few people, it was substantially worse than the standard view for others. So we ended up reverting to default on that. I'm still looking for a good solution, ideally in collaboration with the devs at Backstabbr, but with seven countries it's really tough to find a colour scheme that works for everyone. I've been wondering if some kind of texture change would work better - maybe a different pattern in the background of each colour? But that also might make things a bit less readable. It's something I need to think about a lot more!

@miningglalie 21 күн бұрын

@@DiploStrats I actually thought about what I'd suggest after writing this comment, but didn't include it there as to not sound pushy. If I needed to make a suggestion - Something that will work for everyone, both standard-vision folks and folks with daltonism (and even people who cant see color at all) is varying levels of brightness. colorblindness basically makes certain cells called "cones" not function in your eyes (or you straight up dont have them). The different types of colorblindness come from different combinations of the 3 types of cones not functioning. Thing is, there are other cells (they're called rods) which perceive brightness (they're the ones working hard when seeing in the dark), and those work just about the same for colorblind people as they do for everyone else. So, for example, regarding the map in this video, just making Turkey brighter and Italy noticeably darker than it, as well as Russia brighter and England noticeably darker than it would go a long way. Even if, for example, I see both Turkey and Italy as green, if they vary a lot in brightness, I'll be able to tell they're different shades of the "same color". So, the optimal solution is probably something along the lines of "make countries that are near each other have varying levels of brightness". So, relying on contrast in brightness to show the differences. I hope that helps a bit ^^ thanks for listening to the feedback, it's much appreciated!

@solsystem1342 29 күн бұрын

Got a solo in my first game of gunboat while listening to this. 😂 Thanks for the video

@DiploStrats 28 күн бұрын

Congrats!

@torgor_ Ай бұрын

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

@LorxusIsAFox 29 күн бұрын

screaming and crying and throwing up about [W06] ...Turkey: Build A Bul [sic, stet] (dw I find it hilarious)

@ahmedabdolghani8879 Ай бұрын

Finally

@freyeik 28 күн бұрын

I thought of a variant and would wonder what it would be like. What if Spain and Portugal where one center and North Africa was a center instead? I feel like that would create interesting decisions for Italy a country i think needs more of. Wanted to know your thoughts on this

@DiploStrats 6 күн бұрын

I think this makes Italy really tough to play, because it makes the best French opening Bre-MAO-NAf to pick up the SC (where usually that fleet would go to Portugal or similar). That means there isn't the natural buffer zone between France and Italy, so both likely have to commit units there early - which I like for nerfing France, but also nerfs Italy imo.