Vans RV-10 - Cost to Own

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Complete Walkaround

Complete Walkaround

Жыл бұрын

What does it actually cost to buy and own a Vans RV-10? In this short video we break down the Vans RV-10 - Cost to Own and let you know exactly what your get for your money. And how much of your money it will take.
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In addition to annual costs, we cover the cost per hour and cost per mile to operate. We also cover key performance stats so you know what you're paying for.
Costs of airplane ownership vary widely from owner to owner. This video takes an average of the various expenses from existing owners and boils them down to simple to digest numbers. Your ownership experiences will be unique.

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@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 Жыл бұрын
‘Glass side up, rubber side down’ made me chuckle 😂
@EatsLikeADuck
@EatsLikeADuck Жыл бұрын
"You don't vote for kings" got a chuckle from me. Very Monty Python.
@davecalvin5105
@davecalvin5105 Жыл бұрын
"You don't vote for kings!" Very nice.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
Than I could become king
@blacky6469
@blacky6469 Жыл бұрын
well you are already the king of "cost to own" videos ;)
@EatsLikeADuck
@EatsLikeADuck Жыл бұрын
​@@blacky6469 We don't have a king. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.
@theHedgehogPro
@theHedgehogPro Жыл бұрын
I think the "High" and "Low end" prices are switched just FYI. Love the commentary and work on these!
@anonymous12345678935
@anonymous12345678935 Жыл бұрын
Is the high end for rv10 and the low end for cirrus?
@flightsimguides
@flightsimguides 11 ай бұрын
@@anonymous12345678935 that's what I think ^^^, but also never seen a 400k cirrus... so... still confused.
@RaceMentally
@RaceMentally 11 ай бұрын
I think it is correct. You can get a low end cirrus for $400k. But high end RV10 is $300-400k now. You can build it for around $220-$300k
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos, you manage to make them both really fun to watch while still having a good amount of info. Really appreciate the effort/work put in.
@davidcerven5072
@davidcerven5072 Жыл бұрын
The thing that I like the most about the RV10 is the fact that you can put an LS V8 engine under the cowling
@deSloleye
@deSloleye Жыл бұрын
Is that actually an advantage? I've not seen a lot of installations. Why do they work?
@davidcerven5072
@davidcerven5072 Жыл бұрын
@@deSloleye mainly more power for the same or a bit more fuel burn, while comfortably running on automotive gasoline/mogas
@Supacoopaofawesomeness
@Supacoopaofawesomeness Жыл бұрын
Americans: They can LS sway anything
@davidcerven5072
@davidcerven5072 Жыл бұрын
@@Supacoopaofawesomeness actually I'm an european, but yeah, they can LS everything
@deSloleye
@deSloleye Жыл бұрын
@@davidcerven5072 running on mogas is an advantage. No need to spray lead everywhere. It's a lot of extra weight isn't it?
@BabaDka
@BabaDka Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been waiting for this one!
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
Thanks Man!
@cdeggz
@cdeggz 14 күн бұрын
I can't agree more. As a -10 owner, I can't make much sense of owning anything else. The next step up in speed puts you in a piper meridian for 50% more speed at 6x the cost. The Rv-10 is the sweet spot in GA.
@nathanhyland
@nathanhyland Жыл бұрын
1:10 in the video, typo. Low End is $400,000 and High End is $200,000. Per video. That's it, I want my money back.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
And the First Typo Identified Award goes to..
@Tommy-B.
@Tommy-B. Жыл бұрын
Ah beat me to it. I want an award too. 😂 🥇 🏆
@flightsimguides
@flightsimguides 11 ай бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround lol...
@kodywillnauer9422
@kodywillnauer9422 Жыл бұрын
These videos always make me learn something *and* chuckle.
@braxtonsmith9858
@braxtonsmith9858 Жыл бұрын
These videos are always great!
@michaelwiggins3663
@michaelwiggins3663 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the gallons/hr update to these
@cdeggz
@cdeggz 14 күн бұрын
yet most people cruise the -10 closer to 10 or 11 GPH
@physicns
@physicns Жыл бұрын
It’s a great point about how varied the fit and finish of each individual build is. Also, we miss your P.180 video! Opinionated, yet not incorrect.
@kenl.3775
@kenl.3775 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t nuts about him deleting comments before he took it down tho
@ailishcoleman4013
@ailishcoleman4013 Жыл бұрын
Nice video been waiting for next upload
@ethanlegrand33
@ethanlegrand33 Жыл бұрын
Great video! One of the planes I hope to own one day. Could we see the Bearhawk 4 place at some point in the future??
@scottbell3071
@scottbell3071 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video! You should do one on the king air 350
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham Жыл бұрын
ooh man, this is the exact one I'm looking at!
@Kemxt
@Kemxt 10 ай бұрын
I really hate that KZfaq never puts these videos in my feed even though I am subbed. Better late then never I guess
@lockirocu
@lockirocu 10 ай бұрын
If you press the bell button by the subscribe button you'll get them all.
@buttonmonkey6845
@buttonmonkey6845 Жыл бұрын
Such a cool plane, a guy I work with has a half share in one and totally loves it but he paid a lot of money for it, maybe not the top whack but up there. Great vid ,👋😀🇬🇧. P.S. keep it glass side up🤣
@Paulomedi
@Paulomedi Жыл бұрын
How about a video on the Dynamic WT9?
@abates3747
@abates3747 Жыл бұрын
aww, an oooo-less video. I'll get over it though :)
@holl0918
@holl0918 Жыл бұрын
I'm debating between building one of these, or a Bearhawk 4
@tommie01234
@tommie01234 Жыл бұрын
Still Waiting for the GA-8 Airvan review!!
@bensonfitch6697
@bensonfitch6697 Жыл бұрын
Love this video, if you do something different like the helicopter you did, maybe try an autogyro.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
Helicopter yes. Gyro not yet
@bensonfitch6697
@bensonfitch6697 Жыл бұрын
Cool, even if you don’t do anything close to that, thanks for the nice videos
@nicholasberggren6527
@nicholasberggren6527 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the dimond da 20
@jonasbaine3538
@jonasbaine3538 9 ай бұрын
Wow that cirrus rudder looks small in comparison. No wonder why its not spin approved. Hoping Vans can pull through...
@benh2134
@benh2134 7 ай бұрын
Wish I had one
@PetesGuide
@PetesGuide Жыл бұрын
At 1:00 the plane is oriented the wrong way, based on the labels for the numbers on the left. Can you correct this typo by doing a _Cost to Invert_ special episode? You’ve surely been planning this, but it’s a great excuse for an “acrobatics under $x” video!
@TrainSounds
@TrainSounds Жыл бұрын
What about the Piaggio P180, I thought you were going to put that up soon.
@Jinkguns
@Jinkguns 11 ай бұрын
Can I request the Sea Rey? Very curious about this plane, since it comes recommended.
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 Жыл бұрын
da-40ng next! also how are you liking your plane?
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
Still learning it's nuances. It's a ton of fun
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff Жыл бұрын
I would keep the $5 per galon price, so we can compare planes
@JMo268
@JMo268 3 ай бұрын
Wow they've already gone up another 100K on trade-a-plane since this video was made 8 months ago!
@Mas___SD
@Mas___SD Жыл бұрын
Nice thought including the gal/hr. As a new pilot it's still weird to me to see such widespread use of imperial units - takes some getting use to.
@Dermochelys12
@Dermochelys12 11 ай бұрын
Attempt #4: Just for fun, let's say I want to buy an Air Tractor! The AT-802F Fire Boss with the floats being a personal favorite, because we all know, the floats make it awesome ; ). Could you take off the spray gear and have a fun personal aircraft?
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 11 ай бұрын
Reply #2. Yes, sure, why not
@its4michael
@its4michael 7 ай бұрын
No spray bar with a fireboss
@yalyosha
@yalyosha Жыл бұрын
One underrated aspect of the plane is the plethora of mods available. Also: 200k high end? I wish ...
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s true too
@daricksta08
@daricksta08 Жыл бұрын
Low end is $400k 😉
@yalyosha
@yalyosha Жыл бұрын
@@daricksta08 I'll stick to the high-end, thanks.
@Glegh
@Glegh Жыл бұрын
Its a life-sized airfix model
@davidgolden6068
@davidgolden6068 11 ай бұрын
“You don’t vote for kings” top tier reference 😆
@deSloleye
@deSloleye Жыл бұрын
Low end 400k, high end 200k?
@objectathand
@objectathand 11 ай бұрын
What cost were you using for Jet A prior to this?
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 11 ай бұрын
4.50. Though I'm very tempted to go back to using the usual prices, so that all the final prices can still be compared easily. I'll still add the gal/hour with the prices. Anyway, Not sure. Still thinking about i
@objectathand
@objectathand 11 ай бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround Nice, thanks. Yeah I think if you include GPH you could go back to the standard $5 for avgas or $4.50 for Jet A and people can do their own calculations. In my area for example 100LL is $8.05 and Jet A is $8.28 so I wrote off your $5/gal a long time ago =D
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 11 ай бұрын
@@objectathand oh wow ya. Here is 6.80 a gal ($2.45 CAD/L). Even the average price doesn't help people really since it will still be different from what they pay. Mays well at least be consistent
@neovo903
@neovo903 11 ай бұрын
Now stick a PT6 in it
@nathanlindley
@nathanlindley Жыл бұрын
"You don't vote for kings!"😂😂
@Boredomboi3000
@Boredomboi3000 Жыл бұрын
How is you not popular!?
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
I'm not popular? 😢
@tripodtodd9217
@tripodtodd9217 Жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround you have quite a cult following, and I can almost bet most of us aren't ever gonna fly. It's just interesting 3 minute videos, and I live for it. Keep it up CW!
@Boredomboi3000
@Boredomboi3000 Жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround You are to me, it's just you need to keep going at it! I just see other people with a lot of views that aren't as cool as your channel and I'm just baffled. I have never seen content quite like yours, smooth, well edited and calming voice. I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you! 😢
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
I kid. Thanks
@Vorath81
@Vorath81 Жыл бұрын
2:00 perhaps soon you should just list how many kidneys you need to sell on the black market to get a few hours in flying ;p
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
All the kidneys! Are you driving today?
@emrebaskocak
@emrebaskocak Жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround Yep, to the black market! Want anything?
@Vorath81
@Vorath81 Жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround with kidney supplies limited, I think I'll be driving for a while 😉
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
@@Vorath81 oh dear. I meant from CB
@Vorath81
@Vorath81 Жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround figured...and yes I was.
@tds456
@tds456 Жыл бұрын
Is the 50 hour figure wrong? Getting 11250 for total cost, so 225 per hour.
@cobra5032
@cobra5032 Жыл бұрын
Whoever you spoke with about the aileron roll characteristics either had a very poorly rigged airplane or didn’t have the skillset to do aerobatics. I’ve performed positive G aileron rolls several RV-10s in Phase 1 testing and found the roll characteristics to be predictable, standard, and plenty adequate for a four-seat airplane. The roll rate is substantially faster than a Cirrus, although I haven’t done anything past 60° bank in one. All it’s handling characteristics are very predictable and enjoyable. The RV-10 is still an RV, but it’s more Porsche Macan than 911.
@rv10ator
@rv10ator Жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged with respect to inadequate skillset. Although the FAA operating limitations document for my RV-10 included permission to do aerobatics in phase one, and I had done hundreds of 180-degree-per-second aileron rolls in my RV-7, I was totally unprepared for the slow response of those relatively tiny ailerons way out on the end of those long wings. No doubt the second aileron roll would have been better, but I was satisfied that Vans had made the correct call on aerobatics, even on docile 1G maneuvers like aileron rolls. So the total in the logbook after 16 years remains exactly one. Bob Hoover's record of rolling Shrike Commanders is in no jeopardy.
@_Stark
@_Stark Жыл бұрын
My interior has more of a Toyota feel to it.
@pppeeettteeerrr
@pppeeettteeerrr 11 ай бұрын
Assuming the 540 makes it to 2000 hr TBO without blowing a cylinder it'll easily be $50k for a replacement. So the engine reserve should actually be $25/hr. And if the airplane is not flown enough, an annual "reserve" fund would also be needed.
@j.gregory5669
@j.gregory5669 Жыл бұрын
$1300 to insure😂😂😂. Can you source that number please? Seems laughably low.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6yFd9tlzLbXfnU.html. 😂😂😂 yourself.
@rv10ator
@rv10ator Жыл бұрын
The $1300 figure is actually about twice what I pay for $1M liability + not-in-motion hull coverage on my 2007 RV-10. As the builder I figure if I bend it I'm the person who has the repairman certificate and is going to fix it anyway, and RV-10 parts are really quite inexpensive. A big factor for insurance is training and experience. As an instrument-rated and current pilot with about 3400 hrs. total PIC (2000 of them in RV's) I get quoted insurance rates that are often less than 50% of what new RV-10 pilots get quoted. So those numbers are real but predicated on some special circumstances that wouldn't apply to all owners and/or builders. Another fun and informative walkaround. Now I can hardly wait for the one on the Hummel Bird. 😁
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround Жыл бұрын
@@rv10ator Thanks, There's a Hummel owner in my EAA chapter. It's just a matter of time!
@TheShays
@TheShays 11 ай бұрын
I am paying $3,400 for $350,000 coverage and liability with AIG. I have been flying 25 years. My insurance rule is 1% of coverage for the -10.
@OvenBak3d360
@OvenBak3d360 8 ай бұрын
My subscribing to your channel pretty much went like hmmm this guy is kinda weird. I’m kinda weird. I like it I shall now watch all his videos😂
@coasternut3091
@coasternut3091 6 ай бұрын
A cirrus with none of the safety
@MikeRetsoc
@MikeRetsoc 4 ай бұрын
You are not a pilot I take it. There is a lot more to safety than a parachute. Note, for example, that the RV is utility category and the sr22 is normal category. Most RV-10s have far more developed navigation/autopilot arrangements than almost all the GA fleet and more than the pre G4 Cirruses. Not knocking the Cirrus family, but your comment is uninformed.
@cdeggz
@cdeggz 14 күн бұрын
what safety are you referring to?
@MechInvent
@MechInvent Ай бұрын
Sorry dude just cringe comedy and barely any facts. I'm trying to actually learn something.
@tmjerra3163
@tmjerra3163 Ай бұрын
If you couldn't figure out the cost to own an rv10 from this video maybe learning isnt your strong suit. But you know, keep trying I guess
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