They never did care and won't in the future...

The Gov or Vaping?

They will make vapes legal to buy OTC at a pharmacy for people over 18, later in the year.

Your kind words mean a lot. Keep spreading the word!

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Well said mate... Cheers

Amen to that...

Big contributing factor on reason why I haven’t moved back.

There were no vapes when I was a teen, so I smoked ciggs. As if kids will just stop nic intake because of a vape ban. The government doesn't want teens to stop, they just want them smoking tobacco so they can tax everything fully.

Ain't that the truth....

Well said.😤😤😤

Thank you for sharing such a touching and inspiring story. It's incredible to hear how vaping helped you and your father break free from the grip of smoking after so many years of trying. The journey you both took, supporting each other and gradually reducing the nicotine levels, is a testament to your determination and love for one another. Knowing that your father enjoyed his last decade nicotine-free must bring you immense comfort and pride. Your story is a powerful reminder that it's never too late to make a positive change, and it gives hope to many others who are still struggling. Thank you for sharing this heartfelt journey with us.

unfortunately the black market will take over and make them rich...

unfortunately the black market will take over and make them rich...

Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers

It's definitely a concerning issue. The regulations around vaping are evolving, and it's important for vapers to stay informed and advocate for their rights.

It's fascinating to hear about the increase in cigarette sales following the vape ban. This situation really highlights how regulatory changes can impact consumer behavior. It seems that some people who previously used vapes might be turning back to traditional cigarettes. It'll be interesting to see if this trend continues and what the long-term effects might be on both the industry and public health. Thanks for sharing your firsthand experience! ... Cheers

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The comment raises several points of concern about the government's policy on vaping products. Here's a fact-based response addressing each of these points: Anticompetitive Practices Restricting vape sales to pharmacies can potentially lead to an artificial monopoly, which might contravene competition laws. According to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), monopolistic practices can be illegal if they significantly lessen competition. If pharmacies are the sole vendors of vape products, it could limit consumer choice and drive up prices due to lack of competition . Price Gouging The pricing disparity highlighted in the comment is substantial. If vape juice that used to cost $29.90 for 1000ml is now $28 for 60ml, this marks a significant price increase. Such practices could be viewed as exploitative, particularly if they are driven by regulatory changes rather than market forces. This situation could potentially be investigated under consumer protection laws concerning price gouging . Misuse of Regulatory Power The policy’s financial motivations versus health-driven intentions are contentious. While regulations might be intended to protect public health, the continuous availability of liquid nicotine underlines a potential inconsistency in regulatory objectives. Scrutiny from public health advocates and policy analysts is essential to ensure regulations genuinely aim to safeguard health rather than generate revenue . Undue Burden on Healthcare The added responsibilities for doctors and pharmacists could strain the healthcare system. Writing prescriptions for vaping products and managing their distribution can divert time and resources from other critical healthcare services, impacting the system’s efficiency and effectiveness . Consumer Rights Infringement Restricting access to vaping products could infringe on consumer rights, particularly for those using vapes for smoking cessation. The World Health Organization acknowledges that e-cigarettes can help some people quit smoking, and restrictive policies might undermine these potential benefits . Inconsistent Application of Law The treatment disparity between liquid nicotine and other vaping products raises questions about the consistency and fairness of the policy. Legal consistency is crucial for public trust and compliance, and any perceived arbitrariness can lead to accusations of discrimination or favoritism . Economic Harm The new policy might adversely affect businesses in the vaping industry, potentially leading to economic harm. Small businesses, in particular, could struggle with the sudden regulatory changes, potentially resulting in closures and job losses . Personal Impact The personal anecdote about quitting smoking using vapes highlights the potential public health benefits of vaping products. Restricting access might hinder others who are trying to quit smoking, which could be counterproductive to public health goals . Conclusion The concerns raised about the government’s vaping policy are multifaceted and warrant careful consideration. Balancing public health objectives with fair market practices and consumer rights is essential for an effective and equitable regulatory framework. References Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC). (2023). Competition and Consumer Act 2010. Consumer Protection Laws. (2023). World Health Organization (WHO). (2023). E-cigarettes: How risky are they? Public Health Advocacy Institute of WA. (2023). Vaping and e-cigarettes. Australian Medical Association (AMA). (2023). Position Statement on E-cigarettes. World Health Organization (WHO). (2023). E-cigarettes: How risky are they? Australian Legal Information Institute (AustLII). (2023). Regulatory consistency. Australian Small Business and Family Enterprise Ombudsman (ASBFEO). (2023). Impact of regulation on small business. National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC). (2023). Vaping and health.

Well thank you for that...Cheers

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That's the black market for you...LOL

I'm in the UK my question to you is can you go into a supermarket and buy your flavours.

We are in too much debt - they need the tax revenue....

Because it has nothing to do with health. Look up Micheal Bloomberg and a doco called "You don't know nicotine"

because there are no tobbacco companies operating in australia they are all foreign owned and operates elsewhere since the tobbaco farming ban decades ago. they do not regulate the importers enough and only worry about making sure import taxes being collected at the border from the distributers and retailers.

Sue the government for making you smoke? That's a new one! Maybe we can start a class-action lawsuit together!

That's a good point, and a valid point I believe.

​​@@soosology5005 He's not saying government is making him smoke, he's saying the government is taking away his freedom of choice, big difference. Aren't you smart enough to work that out?

Would just like to add - the Phillip Morris products sold in pharmacies are defective. The pods leak nicotine juice all over lips and mouth. Can probably add that to the lawsuit

Ah, the classic 'shop till you drop' abroad approach. Just don't forget your sunscreen and kangaroo repellent when you return, mate!

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And I used to be convinced that this wasn't a tax thing but a misguided health thing until I found out they are also taking nicotine patches off the PBS, then it became *crystal clear* whats going on.

Breaking the law for a vape? Sounds like you're a rebel with a cause! But seriously, choosing life over cigarettes is the ultimate victory. Keep defying the odds!

I get you bro i’m in the same boat, i think the ban is stupid, but you can still get them from pharmacies, you just need a prescription and they’ll be in boring flavours, you don’t have to go back to smoking cigs

​@@kyu6938It will also be as expensive as cigarettes. It's appalling.

​@@shayneoneill1506Yes their bullshit harm scare for vapes is an absolute scam.

You need a second mortgage so smoke here nowadays... LOL

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completely agree...

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Who knew vaping could be the asthma attack repellent you never knew you needed! Keep feeling great! ... Cheers

Interesting. I'm pretty sure it's PG that is used for asthma pumps as well.

Couldn't agree more... Cheers

I can see you are a "glass half full" sort of guy...LOL

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vape stores are only a small portion of the sellers of vapes. the internet and dodgy tobbaconists and convenience stores far outway the numbers of legitimate vape retailer sales.

@hanksyflamework and thats the whole point if they allowed vape stores a legitimate way to supply the market but instead they forced them to close making the illegitimate sellers the major stake holders...

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True statement... Cheers

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy! Your signature is like a superpower in the fight for change.

It is too late for petitions. The gov ignored our previous emails. The decision has been made.

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Also spot on about the pharmacy's products being harder to titrate im also on 3mg nic atm when doctor recently tried offering pods tland the lowest they had was 12mg when I told the doctor that he agreed to just give me freebase nicotine to continue dosing my own ejuice

It's frustrating to see how misinformation can spread and impact people's perceptions and choices. The confusion surrounding vaping versus smoking is significant, and it’s essential to rely on credible research and sources. Studies from reputable institutions, such as Public Health England, have indicated that vaping is substantially less harmful than smoking. It's unfortunate that government campaigns and media sometimes skew public perception, leading to misconceptions like vaping containing weedkiller, which is completely unfounded. Your experience highlights the importance of educating others with accurate information. It’s commendable that you make your own e-juice, ensuring it's free from harmful substances. Sharing your knowledge and experiences can help others see through the misinformation. Stay informed and continue to advocate for a balanced and evidence-based understanding of vaping.

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Very true

So true that...

Totally get where you're coming from! Let's hope for a balanced approach to regulations.

Well said.

Exactly right mate! No victim, no crime committed. The only law that applies to every citizen in this country is common law. All vape users need to educate themselves with constitutional laws and rights and challenge these draconian rules in the supreme court.

Didn't know about the Hemp thing but makes sense (remove the competition) - I read in a british medical journal about Popcorn lung and seems to be a thing related to menthol flavors in vapes.

@@soosology5005And guess what flavours the govt want to implement? Menthol, mint and tobacco. They KNOW what they are doing.

Pop corn lung is a myth and never one single case found. See Dr Mendelssohn as he has facts not australian gov propaganda

That is something the factory workers used to get breathing copious amounts in all day. Vaping will not give that to you. Something to do with the heat vs burn. However, what they fail to say is that apparently the chemical that causes it is in cigarettes 😂😂. The whole thing is misinformation designed to deter vaping.

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