It’s good, but the non legato parts are too legato, and of course anything that puts a horn player out of a job , I have to dislike in a way.

Literally when I would import MuseScore 3 things into Musescore 4, people I showed it to would instanty ask, "What was that instrument?" It was the horn.

French horn is just good

They ruined the oboe sounds 😭

Until MuseScore 5 is released you mean 🙊

Not to mention it's completely free. Other softwares that people are mentioning, like Noteperformer, might be better, but those are paid. As an amateur composer/arranger, I'm probably not going to be investing a whole lot of money into notation programs so the fact that we can get this for free is pretty incredible

It sounds a lot more expressive though, because you can tell it exactly the same thing you would tell a performer to play it

Exactly, and to add on it’s such an annoying fact that when mentioning music production with traditional instruments NOBODY mentions MuseScore. They recommend you these VST plugins that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars when this exists for free and even rivals their quality. I am glad I stumbled upon this video, it really shows that MuseScore is truly capable of achieving the best.

For real, the engraving engine is actually incredible. No need to switch samples for different articulations or dynamics, it happens automatically

The problem with I'd say at least 7/10 orchestral VSTis is not that they're samples, but rather the way that they are sampled and programmed is absolutely awful and this has become the standard/tradition for them. Very few outside-the-box thinkers and hardly anyone from the classical music world. As a result, you are forced to make a lot of musical compromises that you shouldn't have to and you basically have to write modern "film music" because that's all the samples can reliably do.

​@@ChrisSchmidtComposer That depends on if the composer can actually write for orchestra or just for a DAW.

Y’all would benefit from using cinematic studio’s sample libraries and performance samples, they actually got it right and there are some other great libraries out there, although I’m super glad musesounds exist now, midi just can’t do as well and easily stuff like that, it has more limitations than notation software

Noteperformer with a sample library like this would be awesome!

You won't need much tweaking tho, scripting of the CS strings is good enough already, they sound way better but also cost 400€ lol

Musescorse VST compatibility is limited. They just added compatibility in the last update and I bet they'll keep improving it though but at the moment there isn't much you can do with it relative to an actual DAW

The other stuff requires you to think more like a computer programmer than a musician. It's been unbelievably frustrating for me. because it was like there was always one step somewhere where I had to wonder "Why the hell isn't this working?". From the ASIO, to Kontakt, to the MIDI controller, to the Focusrite interface, to the lack of support for mp3, to the legato not working right, to the dynamic getting messed up every time I'd export, etc... jesus christ. If this actually works right, even only half the time and it's good enough to do a little soundtrack for an indie game, or a documentary or an animation? I might be sold. Imagine if you could also do this with notation for guitars, drums, bass and other stuff conventional stuff. Ooo....

i think its just cuz of how quick it went

@@t1m0thyduk3 No, it's because it's set to chromatic.

Harp gliss needs manual tweaking for it to work properly :)

@@snarf1504 true

in order to achieve nice harp gliss playblack in sibelius, you have to split up the notation and have a manually spelt-out version of notes hidden underneath. not sure if it is doable in musescore 4 too.

Especially the mid-register instruments like the oboe, english horn, and clarinet are really drowned out. When you're making a huge score like this, you may wanna raise those instruments +6db in the mixer. Maybe they'll fix that in the future idk.

@@RoseCadenza Well that kinda happens in real life too. There is no mixer for an orchestra. It's just 4 people up against 40

@@joshuapettus6973 Good point.

Disney Theme is called "When You Wish Upon Star". :))

2:11 is from LotR, don't know which song though...

@@michaeltish2485 Opening theme I believe for Lord of the Rings and 3:53 is Zorro's theme (James Horner)

@@michaeltish2485 It's called "Journey to the Grey Havens", one of the most beautiful moments in ROTK

@@Metalpazallteway LotR score is Howard Shore. Some of his best work. Don't get me wrong, love James Horner. The Apollo 13 and Wrath of Kahn scores are fantastic. Was so sad when he passed.

Agreed, it just needs to be good enough to give us a pleasant experience scoring, most of the sound is in our heads/will be in the mockup/in the recordings anyways, it's not supposed to be a final product but good enough so it's not painfully bad

There are a lot of workarounds you can do to fix the issues you talked about, just visit the discussion page.

I second that. Keeping my fingers crossed for NotePerformer 4.

The difference is that musescore doesn't cost 100+ dollars

Musescore is free software, anyone can help develop it, anyone can use it for free in education etc. which is why this is so important

I don't even think MuseSounds competes with NotePerformer. As far as I can tell, MuseSounds is competing against things like Sibelius Sounds and whatever Finale comes with by default, it's a free library that's pretty much out-of-the-box for that software. NotePerformer to me feels like it's more competing with hiring an audio tech to produce you a render using $$$ libraries customised in close detail to produce a final, production-ready output (with an actual recording session being an entirely different class again). With this in mind, MS absolutely stomps. I'm genuinely going to stop working on Sibelius now, after 15 years of use, and switch to Musescore because I'm convinced of its readiness for prime time (as far as amateur prime time goes) and how easy it is to make compelling renders at 0 cost

I wish you'd been right about this :')

Are we able to change that in settings of Musescore? I tried writting harp glisses and they all sound so terrible :((

It appears Musescore hasn't supported harp pedals yet, and I'm not sure if the harp pedal plugin works with MuseScore4

@@dburt909 Use the inspector and select the gliss, scroll to bottom and set from chromatic to diatonic, also has other options like pitch bend

@@WTC2014 Thank You very much! It sounds sooo much better :))

@@WTC2014 Can't seem to find the inspector on Musescore 4, do you know how I could do that? I'm on a Mac. Thanks Edit: I found it! It's called "properties" now.

2:53 is Sandman's Theme from Spider-Man 3.

@robinpark523 is right about 2:53 (Sandman theme, Spider-Man 3) 4:28 is from Pirates: At World's End ("One Day" or I think also "Marry Me Suite" 4:54 is a theme used in Shrek (ex when Shrek kisses Fiona at the end)

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Friends at high places xD

I agree!

“One Day” (from Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End)

I think all of these are with Muse Sounds.

Yes! :D

@@leoscott8487 Wow! If that's the case then perhaps I should give MS4 a try (PS: I have been hesitant to download MS4 since some people say it's buggy).

@@captro5803 Idk, I think such claims of buggyness are overstated. It's very usable. MS3 wasn't without bugs.

@@captro5803 It is a little buggy at the moment, but it's not going to stay that way. The team working on it are very proactive, and want the best for the community, so stay tuned for updates!

YES!!

That's really interesting, I've had quite a positive experience with Musescore 4 on Mac, I'm a Sibelius user and I'm planning to make the switch as Avid hardly change it. Remember it is open source and free, but will get better unlike Sibelius.

I get a crackling sound on startup in both Musescore 3 and 4. Linux tho so I'm just glad it works fine after that