Another Outstanding reaffirmation of how great the Varjo Aero is! I have over 2000 hours of real world flying and there have been moments when making approaches to my local airport in the Aero that seemed so real I almost forgot I was flying a sim!
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, it's always great to hear from real world pilots on this channel. Your insight is invaluable so thankyou for commenting.
@DesignEagles Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy well deserved as always sir…your welcome…
@davidpatt3080 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Varjo Aero after watching your channel, fantastic headset. Thanks for covering and comparing all these different HMDs.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
My pleasure David 😊
@OnlineGuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video!! After months of saving, I'm hopefully ordering the Aero and a 4090 on Monday. coming from a meta quest 2, I can't wait to experience that clarity in msfs!!
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
You will be blown away Josh!
@jimlthor Жыл бұрын
Damn. I'm really tempted to do the same. Just bought a 4090... maybe I'll wait a few weeks and use the G2 for now The jump from Quest 2 to the G2 was significant. I can't imagine how good the Aero will look
@alexsp7086 Жыл бұрын
Wait for crystal it’s apparently better in visuals and cheaper.
@johnkeegan6646 Жыл бұрын
Steve, just got my huge upgraded computer to push max data to my Varjo Aero with its RTX4090 GPU card! I have never seen the detail now revealed by this combo! The performance even low level with difficult venues like Chicago and London show very few judders. Performance is very smooth. This is the best VR I have ever experienced! Love it! THIS SIM IS JUST SO GOOD!
@briank3754 Жыл бұрын
Well, all your 1000 hour review of the Aero did is make me want it even more. Blew my sim budget wide open this year with the purchase of a 4090 and the MFG Crosswind rudder pedals (great pedals by the way). Hopefully Santa leaves a new Aero under the tree for me this Christmas.
@peyossus Жыл бұрын
You know that u have to be a good guy to have more presents, cuz u have had so many ones this year as i can read :P
@cpunktspunkt748 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you could make a setup video for beginners starting up with the varjo+4090 to get some hints how it runs best/smoothly
@kangjames2492 Жыл бұрын
The thing I don't like bout my Aero is the poor binocular overlap and the way that the inner side of each lense has a hard angled straight line that create a translucent dimond shape dead center of the fov. The should've rounded it to it could feel natural to the eye. Also the overall fov has to be made larger on the next head set. They also need to add system wide dynamic foviated rendering. Im hopping the Crystal will replace mine and counter the crystals issues.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks for sharing your experiences!
@4secsharkmr352 Жыл бұрын
Absolute spot on conclusion of what that great VR headset is. Thank you and take care.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Uwe, my very best to you and your family. This headset is going to take some beating. I still remember your first reactions to the Aero, that will stay with me forever.
@4secsharkmr352 Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy yeah, I remember that very well. Innsbruck. Jaw dropping moment as I could see the waves on one of those lakes nearby. I was some speechless, which I am normally the opposite of😂
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
@@4secsharkmr352 😄❤️
@aerowl Жыл бұрын
Finally , i´ve waited for that kind of conclusion video :) Thank you!
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@lvx4408 Жыл бұрын
The only way I can anticipate the Crystal not surpassing the Aero may be the comfort factor. But, we'll see...eventually.
@brettgrieves Жыл бұрын
Pimax software will be crap. Build quality will be crap.
@lvx4408 Жыл бұрын
@@brettgrieves maybe. I hear it is not too shabby though
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I look forward to answering these questions once Pimax send out a Crystal for me to review. Hopefully soon 🤔
@brettgrieves Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy But your about page says you already have a Crystal ?? Now you have me confused.
@Lagrange1970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, this is a great confirmation for me as I am seriously considering the Aero.
@jorgentoll314 Жыл бұрын
Can’t say the chromatic aberration bothers me. In fact, I don’t notice it. One gripe I have with the Aero is that it doesn’t fit my head that well. I had to attach weights to the neck strap to get it in balance. My G2 fits like an old worn in hat. Other than that, I agree. It’s a reeeally good VR headset! Looking forward to your review of the Crystal though. Your review has the power to sell at least one headset. No pressure! ;)
@justinbeamon6624 Жыл бұрын
I have a G2 and was thinking about the Aero. Which one of the two would you keep if you had a choice?
@jorgentoll314 Жыл бұрын
@@justinbeamon6624 Which I would keep, the G2 or the Varjo Aero? I gave the G2 to my daughter. :)
@VRcrazyman Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve - I have done a similar number of hours in my Aero and have to agree - it is awesome; you mention you are using Motion Prediction - is that now behaving itself? Regarding the DOF Reality motion simulator, I would be keen to hear updates on its performance; I have read that motors often fail so any indication as to how yours fares over time would be really useful; and finally, did you get the motion issues sorted out (I think you were almost falling out of the plane when the motion simulator was in use! Keep up the great work. Jonathan.
@shanenicholson948 ай бұрын
Hey great video. Just purchased the varjo aero because of you. Any chance you can do an updated settings video for it
@ervmoore1111 Жыл бұрын
I only have 50 hours! 😂 one big plus for me is after doing initial tweaking, I have not made one single tweak in over two weeks!! 😅 Just enjoying flying at it’s beast - one happy camper! Appreciate your reviews & recommendations. Thanks much!!
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that, tweaking can become an unhealthy obsession. Thanks for your kind words, it means a lot. Enjoy your Aero, you've got some catching up to do :)
@andrew777au Жыл бұрын
Very much looking forward to your Crystal review and comparison.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@kevinbrook7033 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff mate, wonder if they will announce an update later this year?
@drorig9034 Жыл бұрын
what about the fan against fog and the display respons time ? these are key things which are more imporant for me than just bigger fov on crystal. the display are faster than g2 which makes it smoother experience
@Killswitch1411 Жыл бұрын
Varjo Aero isn't a good all rounder and I think most people know that. But I feel the Varjo Aero has taken a few steps back in the software area and Varjo haven't been that responsive when it comes to fixing them. I'm pretty disappointed in how they do some things, started off good than it's fallen off a cliff.
@SimVRRacing Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, as someone who has tested pretty much every headset on the market I can guarantee a few things about the Pimax crystal. Buggy software, very uncomfortable, nose sores, dead pixels, tracking issues.....beta firmware 🙂 I heard the FOV is about the same as the pico 4 in reality, inside something weighing 1.2kg lol
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks Glen for your support, it means a lot!
@kevinbrook7033 Жыл бұрын
The FOV is nuts. Not that the Pico 4 FOV is bad at all, but for a headset the size and weight of the Crystal to only match that is a bit ridiculous. The size, plus the fact that Pimax made it, are the to reasons why I wouldn't consider buying it at all. The direction is smaller form factor these days, not looking like something from an 80's/90's sci fi movie.
@SimVRRacing Жыл бұрын
@@kevinbrook7033 I've just cancelled my crystal pre-order and stuck with bigscreen beyond. I know the FOV is only 96ish but that's the same as my pico 3 which I enjoy. The lightweight and OLED screens have won me round.
@kevinbrook7033 Жыл бұрын
@@SimVRRacing yes, the Bigscreen small FOV is fully justifiable considering how tiny the device is. The Crystal is like buying a TV that has a 70 inch frame and a 55 inch screen.
@SimVRRacing Жыл бұрын
@@kevinbrook7033 haha yeah it really is. It's crazy, the FOV between bigscreen at 93 and crystal at 103 isn't that big a difference. I used to have an 8KX (latest model) and it was the worst headset I've owned, although the FOV was really good. Sent it straight back for a refund.
@MrLolof1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Very much for this Varjo feedback. But you don’t speaking : -The Fov ?😳 Aplushhhss 😇👍🏻👍🏻
@choppergirl9 ай бұрын
Can you run it as a standalone headset with no other accessories? What can you do with it then? Then add a controller, and then a base station? How usable is it without, and then with one base station and one controller? Also, how good is it for a replacement for an ultra widescreen monitor? For webbrowsing, KZfaq videos, desktop work, video editing?
@rainerbehrendt93309 ай бұрын
My Wish would be a Aero without the need of Lighthouse Tracking.
@arride4590 Жыл бұрын
Varjo FOV is similar to Quest 2 or Reverb g2? Also in 1:35 this is exactly the visuals you are seeing through the lenses? 😲
@oliverf944 Жыл бұрын
Does the foveated rendering work in msfs? I wonder how it will perform on a 4070ti
@lesbarwick7440 Жыл бұрын
Steve,thanks for your valued comments.Just acquired a 4090 and have the aero. Not to sure about this Xr Toolkit. Do you have your current 4090 and Xr toolkit and Varjo settings. Trying to get the best starting point. Thanks
@zorbakaput8537 Жыл бұрын
Man just search his channel heaps of vids on OpenXR
@rix3333 Жыл бұрын
Thx for your explanations. Can you use a necksaver app with varjo like with G2?
@wickfut8 ай бұрын
What's the best way to record gamplay output from an Aero? Not through the lens, just a clone of what is visible inside? is it just record from desktop or use the VB recorder? ta
@snapdragon930010 ай бұрын
Or, Pico 5 max this time next year?😁for the same price, 3840×3840 with controllers, standalone.
@adrianstevenson6281 Жыл бұрын
The only thing stopping me buying one of these is that they rely on base stations produced by other companies. From what I can see those other companies are moving to inside-out tracking which I guess will mean no more base stations. This VR headset will be useless without them if they die and are no longer available. I'm waiting for something as good but a little better future proofed. Currently these are the best on the market...
@wickfut89179 ай бұрын
I've just returned a Crystal so looking for a replacement. I basically want a Reverb but with higher resolution and better lenses. Is that what you would say the Aero is? How is the Aero FOV vs Reverb G2v2 without the glasses spacer? ta
@VRFlightSimGuy9 ай бұрын
Yep. That sums up the Aero well. Although keep in mind, you need at least one base station for tracking.
@MrMarkaverett Жыл бұрын
Have you ever had trouble with the Aero disconnecting from the computer if you take them off to rest during a flight? I have had that problem for a while
@michaelhuyer1479 Жыл бұрын
I have this problem, how can I solve this?
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I haven't had any issues with mine sorry folks.
@cpunktspunkt748 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a usb power saving related problem
@bigbangerz5856 Жыл бұрын
I think ur prepping for the Crystal and are giving the Aero a warm send off knowing what is coming, dude you change headsets more frequently than Amouranth changes her swim suit LUL
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I do have far too many VR headsets, but really, I only need one and it's the Aero. I wonder how the Crystal will compare.
@brettgrieves Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Visually it might be slightly bettter due to black levels. but poor built quality, poor software, buggy features are my expectiations. Lets wait and see....... if it ever ships..... any news on the 12k ... hahahahah yes the unicorn headset promised by Pimax that still hasnt even been demo'd...... Pimax "Over promise, under deliver"
@bigbangerz5856 Жыл бұрын
@@brettgrieves indeed the smart move is to wait and see potential and product aren’t always the same
@brettgrieves Жыл бұрын
@@bigbangerz5856 Well... from what Ive just heard I wouldnt read too much into the reviews... NDAs have been singed to not discuss weight, FOV if uner 110degrees, software issues, battery life. If these rumours are true the early reviewers have already been silenced by Pimax on the bits they dont want you to know about. Lets see if any of these points of interest are mentioned in any of the reviews out next week.
@tangotango256 Жыл бұрын
I've nothing but issues out of my Valve Index and HP G1 7800x3d xt7900xtx build with a 2tb 990 pro RX 850 watt Corsair P/M 32Gb 5600 DDR5 up from a Ryzen 9 5950x xfx 6950xt 32Gb DDR4 3600 SANE FRIGGIBG ISSUES ...JUDDERING TEARING SQUIGGLES FLUTTER AND FLAIRING ... I THINK THAT COVERS IT ... same exact issues one is win 10 the other win 11 I had loads of trouble with because of the 78003d chip acting as a gpu in x box settings ... what a freakin pain !!! I'm too stupid and or pig headed to give up lol still after it till it quits
@jaanikaapa6925 Жыл бұрын
Wait til you get the Varjo XR and can have your physical simpit embedded into your sim so you can manually flip your switches and so on. Cockpit is augmented reality superimposed on top of virtual reality.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I have a video on the channel from my trip to Varjo, make sure you give it a watch :)
@jaanikaapa6925 Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy I just noticed it. Saw Dogfight Boss' XR video a couple of days ago. I used to work in gaming industry and XR. A few years ago when Varjo was new I got to visit them and play with the prototypes. It sold me on VR. Back then their customers were screaming for HMDs and they were just trying to get production started on their first product. Airbus, Boeing, BMW were competing for their products and were quite happy to shell out 40K USD (a pop) on prototype sets. Money didn't matter as long as they got the stuff yesterday. Kind of funny strapping a ductape rig on my head because AB had cleared out the better built protos from their office.
@cpunktspunkt748 Жыл бұрын
Varjo xr has monthly fees..so a no go for private purposes IMO
@jaanikaapa6925 Жыл бұрын
@@cpunktspunkt748 Varjo, none of them, are aimed at the consumer market. Their industrial and professional VR stuff. A lot of the military (as in nations') military simulators, aircraft manufacturers' simulators and so on run on Varjo. For years there's been rumours about a consumer HMD, but I doubt we'll see one within a decade. Their business model is strict pro. If you're a prosumer they will sell to you, but gamers aren't their market.
@cpunktspunkt748 Жыл бұрын
@Jaani Kääpä IIRC the aero is aimed for consumers. I actually also don't care what it is aimed for..as long as I get maximum quality for a one time payment
@jammeywalker2578 Жыл бұрын
I'm having troubles with shutter and tracking problems
@mikegc3816 Жыл бұрын
Shame a fair bit of those 1000 hours aren't on YT
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I only record a small percentage of my flying as it's my hobby first 😊
@tyeh101 Жыл бұрын
How is its mini-led working? The local dimming of Quest Pro was enabled with PCVT but flying at night is still bad ... I guess OLED is the only solution.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
The colours and brightness of the Aero are second to none, however, without local dimming, it tends to suffer from grey blacks somewhat.
@johnspanos3862 Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy have you tried the quest pro? I just scored one for 500$ new and I'm very hard pressed to pass up on it and spend the extra on the aero. I mainly sim race. Curious on your thoughts. I also have a monster 4090/7800x3d build.
@benjaminh429010 ай бұрын
is no Headtracking possible without the base stations ?
@nicholasfarrow2478 Жыл бұрын
What are the differences between the Aero and the pico 4 please? Please can someone try and summarise the main issues for those who are new to vr. Is it mainly the resolution or are there other points that distinguish them?
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
I've got a video on the channel about your very question.
@poolhallshark Жыл бұрын
Dang... Chromatic aberration ?? So the Varjo is no good then. Or maybe I misunderstood. I guess I must have, as you endured 7 hours of chromatic aberration in ONE session. See? I always try to focus on the positive, Steve. We all should. Great video! Love from Norway ♥♥♥♥♥
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, all headsets suffer from this, it's just the Aero is SO clear, you can see it more than others. But as mentioned in my video, it's a minor issue but worth highlighting. Take care and my best to you and your family 😊
@poolhallshark Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy I may have masked my "joke" too well I guess...LOL And I do see from my language how that could be. As semi-intended😆 No real need to stand up for Varjo I think, as they do it perfectly themselves just by having the headset on the consumer market in the first place. But I AM aware of your part in making it happen, so now that I see that you felt then need to clarify, I actually feel somewhat bad. I think we all can agree that the Varjo is the best VR headset on the consumer market, period. Chromatic aberration or not 🤣 Take care ! And sorry 😁
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
@@poolhallshark Oh I see sorry 😅 No VR headset is perfect and it's so important to highlight both the good and bad. I'm now having a small break from videos so I can work on my Norway trip. It will stay with me forever, I've never seen such beauty!
@poolhallshark Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy😄 I'm looking forward to seeing you and your missis rolling through the scenery 👍👍👍
@hoopdaboop Жыл бұрын
I love my Aero, such a comfortable headset and top quality. However, it has recently started to go blank on me in DCS World after 10-15 minutes flying. Sometimes the image comes back, but mostly the headset reboots and then I have to kill DCS in task manager and relaunch it. Very annoying and I don't have an issue with other simulators
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Hmmm that might be a cable issue. Try re seating it in the headset.
@hoopdaboop Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy I have sadly tried that, with no luck. Odd that is it just DCS. Very frustrating as I love DCS
@Male_Parent Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a DCS bug. I don't know how to send a bug report though.
@drumdave5495 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the red and blue shift? Nobody seems to talk about it. Love the headset but some objects that should be flat have a 3d effect. I believe this is due to one panel being upside down
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
For people who struggle with this (I don't personally), I'm glad to say the Open XR toolkit gurus have a fix in their latest version.
@drumdave5495 Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy ah cool I have to check it out. Love the content, looking forward to your comparison with the crystal when it arrives 👍
@ericveschi4904 Жыл бұрын
I'm with a desk in front of a wall, so not too much room for the laser sensors. Will it work ? Or needs a bigger room ?
@peterregan8691 Жыл бұрын
@@ericveschi4904 I have one sensor about 1m away from me and the other about 2 metres away and it works fine.
@tomaszswietoslawski7127 Жыл бұрын
Steve, in my Aero I lost eye tracking & automatic calibration features after newest update of VB software. In your Varro Aero headset, eye tracking & automatic calibration works well? Please let me know ASAP. Thank you for all
@hoopdaboop Жыл бұрын
Note: VR ROCK don't do lenses for the Aero unfortunately
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes they do 🤔
@hoopdaboop Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Interesting, because when I reached out to them a while back, with your discount code ready as well, they told me they don't have leanses for the Aero. I have looked on their website and they do indeed have them listed so I apologise for being wrong and I am back in luck :)
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
@@hoopdaboop No worries Brian, maybe they ran out of stock briefly.
@b6s4shelter Жыл бұрын
I have to swallow the RTX 4090 5800X3D pill first... Maybe for Christmas... as I have the OG Vive with Base stations.
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
The 4090 is such an amazing upgrade for VR users.
@lorsch. Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy As will the 5090 be ;)
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
@@lorsch. I wonder if we will achieve 90fps everywhere by then. We can wish!
@brettgrieves Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy You can with a 7800x3d and a 4090.. My mate just got the new 7800x3d and its pushing 90fps in London of all places!!!!!
@SparkySven Жыл бұрын
I would love to have a Varjo aero but I need an RTX 4090 + base station and audio / microphone solutions what makes is just too expensive I am afraid. Thank god I did not see it it yet or I would rob a bank ;-) like you say, you can't unsee it once you had it on your head. DANGER
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
So so true mate.
@melvilib Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Is a 4090 nessessary? I currently have a RTX3060, 32Gb RAM, i7-12700F.
@arride4590 Жыл бұрын
4080 is enough
@arride4590 Жыл бұрын
@@melvilib you can have a 4080
@melvilib Жыл бұрын
@@arride4590 Thanks for the reply. It's a thought, but if I do upgrade I will go for broke 🙂
@b6s4shelter Жыл бұрын
my back end would have fallen off if I went for 7Hr session....
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
😂
@pierre1050 Жыл бұрын
Fov is ridiculously small
@VRFlightSimGuy Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely not an issue for me at all, especially with the level of clarity, it's wider than the Reverb G2 apart from vertically.
@strikkflypilot927 Жыл бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Agree. I came from the Index which has a pretty good vertical. Dont miss it. My eyes are a bit wide apart with 69,5 mm measured in the app so there is also almost nothing lost to the sides…
@brettgrieves Жыл бұрын
Honesly index is higher, But I went from index to Aero.. Ive not looked back. The clairity makes up for the FOV. I tried a Pico 4 and Quest pro recently. Even though I thought the Quest Pro was VERY good, the resolution difference made a big difference for me. Aero all the way.
@propfan3485 Жыл бұрын
@@brettgrieves yes Quest pro seems to be very good.. price is now 1199 € instead of 1800 € 🌞
@johnspanos3862 Жыл бұрын
@@brettgrieves scored the quest pro for 500$ today shrink wrapped... I'm tempted to open it up and keep it until whatever is next in VR, but the so tempted to get the Aero.....help...
@davewills6121 Жыл бұрын
What has happened to VR, these sets don't improve much, yet the price tag triples in price from the CV1. VR should be leaps and bounds better than it is after all these years, the price should not exceed £600, the headsets should be much lighter, smaller and less intrusive, these are the reasons VR is a niche product, and 95% of the games are abysmal, no more than mobile games, most following a very rudimentary design. My G2 is adequate, but never used since ALYX, 15 months ago. The whole VR eco system needs a good shake up, less dragging the tech out, pushing the price up, and improve the gastly media. PS: And the nonsense with Flight Sims, your flying blind, fumbling around like a blind man, or using those silly controllers instead of my virpils....what?