[REAL ATC] Cessna Skyhawk LANDS ON TAXIWAY w/ ENGINE FAILURE | Part 1

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@VASAviation
@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын
Could we reach 400 likes before Sunday? *This pilot on the Skyhawk did it awesome landing on the taxiway and bringing his aircraft down safely with an engine failure!! :)*
@retiredk9copper726
@retiredk9copper726 7 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - love your channel can you quit begging for likes and subscribers.. You have a great channel it will grow you're going to have a huge channel. The saying time is a virtue was said for a reason. Have faith in yourself and your channel your fan base seems to be loyal don't push them away.
@phapnui
@phapnui 7 жыл бұрын
click click
@tweedius
@tweedius 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone on KZfaq asks for Likes and Subscribes. I don't always remember to do it when I'm watching and it is the least I can do for someone providing content for me to watch. I don't mind someone asking at all.
@cometjockeydave4041
@cometjockeydave4041 7 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - This pilot wouldn't happen to be Harrison Ford by any chance would he? lol
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын
Hi David, I don't beg for likes. If we don't reach 400, it's OK. I just set a number of likes as an unlocking way for the Part 2 video. The second part of this event is programmed to be published on Sunday automatically, but if +400 likes are reached, that second part will come earlier. I'll never get on my knees for likes or views.
@russell2952
@russell2952 4 жыл бұрын
If you accidentally line up with the taxiway you don't correct it when your engine is out. Especially when the field is yours. It was a perfectly valid place to land.
@virginiaviola5097
@virginiaviola5097 3 жыл бұрын
It was probably a better place to land..didn’t have to close the airport for him, and Mr Low on Gas was able to land.
@cageordie
@cageordie 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever you need in an emergency. Anything that means they don't have to put you out then bag the remains.
@cali9460
@cali9460 2 жыл бұрын
@@virginiaviola5097 I lold when he said gas
@KDill29
@KDill29 2 жыл бұрын
Says Harrison Ford
@jneill
@jneill Жыл бұрын
Just like with hypoxia, hypothermia impairs cognitive function so just get the plane down and worry about inconvenience of others later. The only thing that really mattered was that he got down and they managed to get everyone else down too.
@elcastorgrande
@elcastorgrande 7 жыл бұрын
Had to land it any way he could. Very calm and professional. He had picked up rime ice, may have had soupy controls and a bum engine. I remember a phrase i heard years ago. In am emergency, whatever you do, six months later someone who wasn't there, now sitting in an armchair with a drink in his hand, will tell you what you should have done.
@MikeBravoAviation
@MikeBravoAviation 5 жыл бұрын
And this is good. Because we pilots have to learn from each other.
@MikeBravoAviation
@MikeBravoAviation 5 жыл бұрын
@Röhrich Oak das ist richtig. I hope you speak German haha. Your name let me think so
@reizayin
@reizayin 4 жыл бұрын
is there anything really wrong with that though? During emergency situations you have less time to think, and that could possibly help you, or others, in similar emergency situations.
@robaus23
@robaus23 3 жыл бұрын
It also may have been a misunderstanding, at 8:04 his read back was 28R rather than 28. Under the stress of an engine failure and expecting 28R, he may have incorrectly identified the taxiway as the runway
@Quasihamster
@Quasihamster 6 жыл бұрын
"Whatever you need to do to get to the runway is approved!" -Lands on taxiway.
@alexrex20
@alexrex20 6 жыл бұрын
They actually approved any maneuver and gave him the entire airfield, not just the runway. He was given permission to land anywhere he wanted, including a taxiway.
@cbernier3
@cbernier3 5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@psikogeek
@psikogeek 5 жыл бұрын
Way to cover your ass.
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao 5 жыл бұрын
I will guess his controls aren't that good with frozen wings and freezing hands. Plus maybe he don't want to disturbed traffic on a "major" airport.
@benjamind7290
@benjamind7290 5 жыл бұрын
cbernier3 With the high winds my bet is he nearly came up short of the field and given his position he may not have been sure he could make the runway. If the taxiway was made then heck I’d go for it too.
@BLACKMONGOOSE13
@BLACKMONGOOSE13 4 жыл бұрын
And that was how he got the nickname "Hot Chocolate."
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 4 жыл бұрын
That's kind of how most military aviators get their callsigns :D
@LottiDotti76
@LottiDotti76 3 жыл бұрын
The kids can call you Hochoc.
@roger201288
@roger201288 5 жыл бұрын
Airports hate him!!! Learn how to get free hot chocolate with one simple trick!
@vladimir7031
@vladimir7031 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@gobdeep
@gobdeep 3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@thegodofhellfire
@thegodofhellfire 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@Wheelabarraback
@Wheelabarraback 3 жыл бұрын
Love it !! 😂
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 3 жыл бұрын
lmao good one
@leogreiner5912
@leogreiner5912 7 жыл бұрын
Very professional and calm handling, even got time for ordering some chocolate
@douggebhardt8796
@douggebhardt8796 6 жыл бұрын
I died laughing when Atc asked him to keep his descent slow. Skyhawk engine failure- "I'll descend how gravity wants LMFAO
@Alex-us2vw
@Alex-us2vw 4 жыл бұрын
Nah I’ll just maintain 11000 and glide for a while, lemme go mixture rich and make this run even richer and tougher than before.
@michaelculpepper3845
@michaelculpepper3845 16 күн бұрын
Right? I’ll be descending at best glide, no more, no less…unless I find that ice…
@GabrielCox
@GabrielCox 6 жыл бұрын
What I love to listen to in this video is how *awesome* ATC was in this situation. I really liked him dropping to a "human voice" and asking "is everything alright?". They really showed first class service and care in doing everything to accommodate this Cessna while pushing out all the "big boys" trying to get in. Once losing the engine that high, the heater is gone as well and the plane is in well below freezing temps. Perhaps he became slightly hypodermic, which, in addition to the stress, could have affected his coherency a bit. Also, since doing a (non ILS) spiraling landing in and out of IMC conditions, there may be some point where he aligned on the taxiway that it made more sense just to stick rather than adjusting with it since you can't add power if you come up short. From what I gather, this was not his intended airport, so he may have not had the runway maps, etc. as required to a planned destination airport. So given the scenario, I'd say the pilot did pretty well too. Asking for a blanket and hot chocolate was a nice touch :-).
@DougDaCosta
@DougDaCosta 6 жыл бұрын
I had a complete engine failure 37 years ago after the engine sucked an exhaust valve. I looked at my wife and said, "What the hell am I going to have to buy for this plane now?" My wife, whose eyes were as big as saucers said in an excited voice, "Buy? You better find a place to land!" I had so much excess altitude that we glided to the airport 3 miles ahead next to a freeway. The next thing my wife said was, "Oh, look. All the cars on the freeway are stopping."
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III 3 жыл бұрын
That's a wife thing to say
@HunterAphistis
@HunterAphistis 3 жыл бұрын
“Honey, we need to be in the far right lane.”
@jonathangentile3447
@jonathangentile3447 7 жыл бұрын
at 7:51 they clear him to land 28 but he reads back 28 Right. He might have got confused close in and thought the taxiway was a parallel runway. I'm sure an engine failure in a single is a pretty stressful situation. He was an emergency aircraft and the tower gave him the entire field so in the end its probably not that big a deal.
@danparisi97
@danparisi97 7 жыл бұрын
possible he didnt want to close the runway because of no engine, controller says airfield is his so aslong as he can visually see that the taxiway is clear its his to land on :)
@DaveDepilot-KFRG
@DaveDepilot-KFRG 7 жыл бұрын
That wasn't it. He mistook the taxiway for the runway. At Syracuse, the taxiways are 75, maybe even 100 feet wide, so not out of the realm of possibility that being under pressure he mistook it for the runway. The problem is that when there is an emergency inbound, Fire and Rescue is usually waiting on the taxiway closest to the runway. In this case, they were not on Alpha (I dunno where the firehouse is located at tis airport). When I had my emergency last year, 2 fire trucks were on the taxiway to the right of the runway that I was landing on at my home airport.
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Gentile I was also thinking he may have intentionally landed on the taxiway knowing that there were multiple inbounds - some already mentioned low fuel and others in IMC and picking up ice. I'd feel bad enough for causing any problems, but I definitely wouldn't want to shut down any runways!
@DiniM
@DiniM 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice catch there! Tower didn't get and even the subtitles missed it, and so did I. Wonder if that was mentioned in the final incident report (there's gotta be one right?)
@ChrisLeduc
@ChrisLeduc 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, there was no investigation according to ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/index.aspx.
@CrayCraigie
@CrayCraigie 3 жыл бұрын
The way ATC made this guy feel is the magic of GA. They sensed his proficiency level and filled in the gaps with finesse. In a few minutes a high functioning team was developed-a rarity in any venue. Once the team developed it seemingly pulled out the best in the pilot.
@jonb6417
@jonb6417 3 жыл бұрын
And landing on the taxiway reduced the inconvenience to other aircraft and passengers. A most considerate fellow, and very calm in a crisis.
@carstorm85
@carstorm85 7 жыл бұрын
Never realized that (emergency or not) blankets and a hot drink are a valid request for a pilot to ATC.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if valid but effective.. I'm sure! :)
@techcheckreviewde2493
@techcheckreviewde2493 6 жыл бұрын
carstorm85 well, loosing cabin heating at a high altitude can get you in -30 degreesC. I'd also like some blankets!
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 6 жыл бұрын
carstorm85 valid request if hypothermia suspected. You could call it thirst aid
@mikemac2888
@mikemac2888 7 жыл бұрын
The offer of a hot beverage is a nice touch.
@ChristopherSaindon
@ChristopherSaindon 6 жыл бұрын
Blankets and hot chocolate for the emergency. :)
@skippynj1979
@skippynj1979 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Saindon with the engine failing there was no heat in the cockpit and I'm sure he got cold real fast as temperatures at altitude are minus 10C at the time.
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 4 жыл бұрын
Tactical hot cocoa, inbound.
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 4 жыл бұрын
HauntedShadowsLegacy delivered by a KC-10?
@akpilot9468
@akpilot9468 3 жыл бұрын
@@skippynj1979 very cold....no engine, no heat. That had to suck.
@shannonlane2508
@shannonlane2508 3 жыл бұрын
I got so confused when he reported the engine failure and then said "disregard." It's like he was embarrassed to trouble the ATC with his emergency lol.
@flyguy0765
@flyguy0765 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is he got the engine restarted briefly before it failed again, but yeah he sounds like a very polite pilot haha
@rwpexpert
@rwpexpert 2 жыл бұрын
You could tell he was nervous about the situation from the start with him getting some icicng. He was downplaying things from the start. I don't blame him totally since it's a very human reaction but that mentality has caused a lot of general aviation accidents that start exactly this way. Being afraid of declaring an emergency because "I can handle it", "it's not that big of a deal" or "I don't want to look like a fool if it's nothing". It's why major airlines try to beat that mentality out of their pilots since they had that exact same problem. Hopefully the GA community starts to build that kind of culture as well.
@MIchaelArlowe
@MIchaelArlowe Жыл бұрын
“Dying may be unavoidable, but losing your cool is inexcusable.”
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky 7 жыл бұрын
Great ATC support and good flying.
@Volkaer
@Volkaer 3 жыл бұрын
That was very polite and considerate of him - landing on taxiway so that the airport didn't have to close the runway.
@missingsemi
@missingsemi 5 жыл бұрын
I have an engine failure at 11,000 Say again *D I S R E G A R D*
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 3 жыл бұрын
It's like your girlfriend saying "nothing" when you ask what's wrong
@Volkaer
@Volkaer 3 жыл бұрын
He probably got it restarted but then it shut down again.
@gilliganallmighty3
@gilliganallmighty3 2 жыл бұрын
@@Volkaer he did later say it was stopping and running very rough.
@andreashutterer4740
@andreashutterer4740 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive how ATC always try their absolute best to support the pilots, and especially pilots in emergency situations!
@DougDaCosta
@DougDaCosta 6 жыл бұрын
Experienced pilot. Asking for a cup of coffee. Priceless....
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on upper air weather in that area, it could have been close to zero degrees (Fahrenheit) when he lost his engine at 11,000. You can’t come in quick either - I’m sure he established best glide and made the airport before even thinking about increasing his descent. He probably dresses for a normal heated flight in the 172 around 6-7000’ also. Temps were actually probably a big issue for the guy. 😕
@Quagmire71006
@Quagmire71006 7 жыл бұрын
He litterally just pulled a Harrison Ford, granted he was without power, but still pulled a Harrison Ford! at least he didnt get a number to call. great landing by a very calm and cold pilot!
@drmayeda1930
@drmayeda1930 7 жыл бұрын
The big problem with Harrision Ford is there was a commercial plane ON the taxiway he landed on. The tower cleared the deck for this guy so he could land on a taxiway if he needed to.
@DaveDepilot-KFRG
@DaveDepilot-KFRG 7 жыл бұрын
Luckily, Fire and Rescue, which is always waiting near the runway for the emergency aircraft, wasn't waiting on THAT taxiway.
@GTReplayMaster
@GTReplayMaster 7 жыл бұрын
I think he may have done it on purpose so as not to close a runway, knowing his engine had failed. But they'd still have to haul it in so it wouldn't be that much of an issue
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 7 жыл бұрын
Senran Kagura I would have done that also, remember the tower said whatever is good for you ', considering not closing the runway.
@StrokeMahEgo
@StrokeMahEgo 7 жыл бұрын
Also I'm pretty sure I heard him readback landing clearance as 28 Right, so it's fair to assume he thought it was parallel runways.
@hadrienperrin1830
@hadrienperrin1830 7 жыл бұрын
Little subtitles glitch at 1:57 for a few seconds, thanks for the upload ! P.S : Another glitch at 6:38
@bjoern_niklas
@bjoern_niklas 7 жыл бұрын
Yep they seem to be mixed up a few times.
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын
That's right and I didn't noticed it when editing. My mistake, guys... sorry! :(
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody is perfect....
@ourfamily7024
@ourfamily7024 6 жыл бұрын
F Huber except Caleb Logan :P
@scottwithers1964
@scottwithers1964 6 жыл бұрын
A calm mind makes better choices. Great work by the pilot and ATC.
@adampoconnor
@adampoconnor 6 жыл бұрын
My guess to the engine failure (without any research or reading the comments) is that he picked up carb icing in the IMC conditions and said disregard after thinking he relit the engine, before realizing it was dead for good.
@adampoconnor
@adampoconnor 6 жыл бұрын
EDIT: After looking up the Tail Number he was a 2016 Skyhawk, definitely not carb ice.
@noxious89123
@noxious89123 4 жыл бұрын
@@adampoconnor Fuel injected engines still have a throttle body, and as a result can still experience throttle icing just like a carburetted engine.
@web1234dash
@web1234dash 4 жыл бұрын
noxious89123 had that in a G5 SR22T last winter over South Dakota descending from FL250 through icing at around 10,000. Engine ran pretty rough for a bit, but cleared up as I got lower.
@jjbailey01
@jjbailey01 5 жыл бұрын
Tower: do what it takes to land safely. 4MR: Bet. That taxiway looks cozy. Can I have some hot cocoa and a blanket? Tower: your wish is our command. Moral of the story is any landing you walk away from is a successful landing. Good job to everyone involved.
@AlexEwan1
@AlexEwan1 4 жыл бұрын
What I find impressive is how calm the pilot is. It's almost as if an engine failure is an everyday occurrence for him. It didn't seem to bother him in the slightest.
@isallah1kafir196
@isallah1kafir196 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex Ewan as 74Gear would say: aviate, navigate, communicate. Not one pilot, but I think this pilot did just that.
@pjhaebe
@pjhaebe Жыл бұрын
Dude was pretty friggin chill...and probably literally. Nice job getting the rubber side down
@lonestaronestar1845
@lonestaronestar1845 5 жыл бұрын
Its amazing to me how pilots and atc's are able to keep there cool like this during an emergency.
@scottmoseley5122
@scottmoseley5122 7 жыл бұрын
Atheist ATC@4:26 "and how many souls on board?....correction --people on board?"
@depotdan4654
@depotdan4654 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah perhaps, "How many living beings on board that identify with or without having a soul?"
@phillipspellman1003
@phillipspellman1003 7 жыл бұрын
The ghosts dont count.
@jonthatcher3958
@jonthatcher3958 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe ATC knew he was a ginger
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Shelton pax, are always listed as 'how many souls onboard'. .
@officialguitar3667
@officialguitar3667 7 жыл бұрын
I believe it was "how many souls on board, correction: fuel on board" Occasionally the subtitles are off. Easy mistake.
@xX_Skraith_Xx
@xX_Skraith_Xx 5 жыл бұрын
I hope if I’m ever caught in a situation as bad as an engine out in IMC I’ll have as clear a head as this guy and as thoughtful controller as the ones helping him out
@SwissAvgeek
@SwissAvgeek 5 жыл бұрын
excellent work by the pilot & ATC!
@dantee7893
@dantee7893 4 жыл бұрын
Incorporate into your flight planning body temperature risk assessment, and have appropriate additional warm clothing accessible during flight - being cold for long will affect your judgement and performance and could develop into a severe risk. I once took off on a warm autumn day, but flew 3 hours north at 8,500, and with inadequate pullover I was miserable, vowed to never again make that mistake. As usual, great videos by the VASAviation folk - much appreciated!
@SidestickPilot
@SidestickPilot 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome job going into IMC with an engine failure and getting her down safely. I'm curious why he chose the taxiway over the runway but still amazing job staying calm.
@ahmadsamadzai8255
@ahmadsamadzai8255 7 жыл бұрын
Bailey Davis i think he mistook it for a runway. he thought he was landing on 28R.
@chrisjohnson4666
@chrisjohnson4666 7 жыл бұрын
ahmad samadzai that or he just heard the commuter plane almost bingo fuel and on a hold... he may of landed there to the low fuel guy could get down...
@DaveDepilot-KFRG
@DaveDepilot-KFRG 7 жыл бұрын
Syracuse is a big airport with lots of airliner traffic so has very wide taxiways. Under pressure, not unthinkable that somebody would mistake that, especially if he's used to landing on 75 foot runways.
@simcptmike
@simcptmike 4 жыл бұрын
ATC is such a godsend. So thankful for them
@PilotDamian
@PilotDamian 7 жыл бұрын
Anybody else notice he said he has 8 hours of fuel on board? He must have some extended tanks 😋
@Xanthopteryx
@Xanthopteryx 7 жыл бұрын
PilotDamian With the engine barely running, the tank doesn't need to be that large to last 8h=)
@8literbeater
@8literbeater 7 жыл бұрын
He was flying it to Russia. Check out his 11.4 hour flight over the Atlantic, four days later. origin.flightaware.com/live/flight/N544MR It no doubt had ferry tanks in it. www.aviationdb.com/Aviation/Aircraft/5/N544MR.shtm
@ahmadsamadzai8255
@ahmadsamadzai8255 7 жыл бұрын
8literbeater hoooooly fook. that's amazing.
@PilotDamian
@PilotDamian 7 жыл бұрын
8literbeater well then yeah...
@tnexus13
@tnexus13 7 жыл бұрын
Dig up 'Dangerous Flights'. Some of the episodes cover ferry flights like this.
@rmachayes
@rmachayes 7 жыл бұрын
In light of the recent Lear Jet crash, I believe in New Jersey, it is fantastic news to hear of a pilot bringing his bird home with no working engine. Good job all the way around!
@prorobo
@prorobo 7 жыл бұрын
Rodney Hayes the Lear crash didn't involve any power loss, it was poor airmanship.
@flyjarrett
@flyjarrett 7 жыл бұрын
Solid piloting.
@ewrcap
@ewrcap 5 жыл бұрын
Coolest cookie I’ve ever heard!
@JoannaForbes1
@JoannaForbes1 5 жыл бұрын
Cool as a cucumber.. what a great pilot. Props to ATC too.
@santtilagmailcom
@santtilagmailcom 7 жыл бұрын
Blankets, hot chocolate and foot massage. That's what I'd have asked :)
@DaveDepilot-KFRG
@DaveDepilot-KFRG 7 жыл бұрын
Haha. I would never even think about oredring blankets and hot chocolate.
@bahenbihen
@bahenbihen 7 жыл бұрын
Sami Anttila id ask for a nice pint of beer
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm 7 жыл бұрын
You all are forgetting that he lost an engine at FL110 in a single and probably didn't even have a jacket on. He has no choice but to stay up as long as possible till they started spiraling him in for approach. He's juggling a thousand things at once and wouldn't even think to get a jacket. It's probably in low 20s if that - in a matter of minutes. This guy seems like one cool customer if you ask me!
@easydoz1
@easydoz1 7 жыл бұрын
A new knob for the carb heat...
@MrSupasonics
@MrSupasonics 7 жыл бұрын
This part from 8:40
@johnfeddersen354
@johnfeddersen354 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@kimchi2780
@kimchi2780 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I wish I was this calm in a situation like this. I had an engine failure in a twin with my instructor and had the shits for days afterward.
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 3 жыл бұрын
emergency checklist/procedure and lots of simulations and practice recovery
@Nardur12321
@Nardur12321 5 жыл бұрын
for anyone wondering why he took the taxiway and not the runway, if you look on google maps, the seems to be antennas and/or light fixtures out from the runway, looking at his stoping distance on the taxi way he was probably really really low coming in, and might have been affraid to hit those, as there are no such things out from the taxiway he landed on, and instead flat field in case he didnt reach.
@alexaayala8371
@alexaayala8371 7 жыл бұрын
Why is Syracuse Approach asking him to descent and MAINTAIN 3000 with an engine failure?
@StrokeMahEgo
@StrokeMahEgo 7 жыл бұрын
Alexa Ayala standard phraseology, basically. maintain it best you can.
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 6 жыл бұрын
Alexa Ayala Means minimum glide angle.
@royalbirb275
@royalbirb275 5 жыл бұрын
Alexa Ayala technically his engine was working...kinda, and in a very rough manner. So he maybe could’ve maintained an altitude, but not for very long. I imagine it’s reflex for ATCs when they make altitude callouts.
@gerbilak
@gerbilak 6 жыл бұрын
The controller is a f'n rockstar.
@selftrue670
@selftrue670 5 жыл бұрын
Very, very nicely done by all concerned
@JasonPhipps
@JasonPhipps 7 жыл бұрын
When did this happen? Once again, my home airport! But I must have been away that day. Awesome hearing all my familiar peoples on the radio, including other pilots! :)
@VASAviation
@VASAviation 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, the date of the events are always shown in the intro description. December 2th :)
@realjohnmonarch
@realjohnmonarch 3 жыл бұрын
More GA pilots need to not be afraid of the words "emergency" and "Mayday". He should have declared immediately. Also sounds like carb ice. Rough run, struggling to restart
@tehx1234
@tehx1234 7 жыл бұрын
Carb Ice may be one factor. The danger zone is between -5 and +15 C but possible between -10 and +25C. High humidity at lower temps and fog or cloud a higher temps add to the problem.The other factor with fuel injected aircraft is Induction Icing, where the ice builds up on the primary ram air intake. An alternate intake exists on the fuel injected 172, switching to this draws in unfiltered, non ram air from inside the engine cowling. If you get carb ice bad enough to quit your engine you have little chance of starting it again as you need to run the carb heat, with the engine running, to clear the ice. No engine means no way to clear the ice. Icing does fail engines, in both injection types. You need to be able to recognize the symptoms early, run the carb heat as a preventative and detection measure periodically in flight and be very aware of conditions if you aircraft is fuel injected and picking up ice. I like to run the carb heat every 20mins as a check and continuously at times the engine is at low power (i.e descent). If the conditions are right in the danger zone, then more frequently as well as continuous monitoring of engine gauges, power setting and airspeed as these can provide a picture of the aircraft performance.
@richarddorman3689
@richarddorman3689 7 жыл бұрын
Tehxion L
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 5 жыл бұрын
Alternate air IS carb heat.
@N1120A
@N1120A 5 жыл бұрын
No carb on a 2016 172. It's fuel injected.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
@@N1120A I would argue that it's still carb heat if there's no carb to heat because alternate air is intended to heat the intake tract (where the carb used to be) by sucking in air from over the heads of the engine.
@mikemissesthefairway
@mikemissesthefairway 4 жыл бұрын
Any port in a storm, I say. Glad it ended well!
@yusufimad1691
@yusufimad1691 7 жыл бұрын
wow I love it
@Matt-dc8lp
@Matt-dc8lp 3 жыл бұрын
What a baller...dude must be a toker.
@Argosh
@Argosh 6 жыл бұрын
That is one cool customer... :D
@GhostDrummer
@GhostDrummer 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing! Edit: removed a comma
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 3 жыл бұрын
Apostrophe.
@LeantoPeak
@LeantoPeak 4 жыл бұрын
What a great opportunity to ask for some hot chocolate!! xD
@jaalcaid
@jaalcaid 7 жыл бұрын
Subtitle gliches in the video
@icepick859
@icepick859 5 жыл бұрын
They are in every single one of this guys videos
@jimh4375
@jimh4375 4 жыл бұрын
The pilot really sounded cool under pressure.
@MilesLougheed
@MilesLougheed 3 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, he did them a favour by landing on the taxiway with an engine failure. He's not blocking the runway, so the other planes can come into land. One of those happy accidents.
@coryt490
@coryt490 4 жыл бұрын
What pilots will do for a free cup of coffee these days.
@FOX11GUY
@FOX11GUY 3 жыл бұрын
That engine got cold REAL fast.
@selftrue670
@selftrue670 5 жыл бұрын
Pardon the pun, but that pilot is the "Ice Man," in more ways than one!
@n16161
@n16161 3 жыл бұрын
“I have an engine failure” “What was that?” “Nahh nah” “Did you say you have an engine failure?” “Oh for sure I definitely have an engine failure.” “Wanna land?” “Yes please.”
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 3 жыл бұрын
haha right so chill
@dougkeklak2009
@dougkeklak2009 7 жыл бұрын
Great work all around. Just wondering, will you be doing a video of the Southwest flight that needed to land at Allegheny County Airport because of the flight restrictions of the airshow last weekend in the Pittsburgh area?
@GlasairS2-RG
@GlasairS2-RG 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the pilot for remaining calm.
@joshualandry3160
@joshualandry3160 7 жыл бұрын
Trying to climb on top through altitudes in which ice was reported? That was a very questionable decision. Sounds like he had ice build up in his induction system. I certainly hope trying carburetor heat was his first move. It would be very embarrassing if he went through all this and all he needed to do was turn on the carb heat.
@N1120A
@N1120A 5 жыл бұрын
No carb on a 2016 172
@triptechable
@triptechable 5 жыл бұрын
Some captions waaaaay outta sync. Great capture this though. Thanks :)
@paco291
@paco291 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Good job everyone involved
@flyifri
@flyifri 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of a Cessna 172 having 8 hours of fuel on board.!
@mpmyprojects6687
@mpmyprojects6687 4 жыл бұрын
What the controller demonstrates is what the latest #FlightChops video is about (02 / 2020). As an pilot of an GA aircraft in distress don't hesitate to get in touch with the controller and they will help you!
@greg42058
@greg42058 5 жыл бұрын
I wish all emergencies required only blankets and a hot coffee/chocolate afterwards ;) I guess I'd have asked for a double vodka in these circumstances as well ;)
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@ryanmerriam13
@ryanmerriam13 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the engine failed because of the mixture being to rich for that altitude? He mentions it restarts here and there but it runs very rough when he puts the mixture in. I know for a fact with a full rich mixture at altitudes above 5-6000 your engine will not run well.. I had this happen to one of my classmates last year. Good job to the pilot keeping cool and ultimately getting it on the ground safe.
@17crossfeed
@17crossfeed 4 жыл бұрын
I knew a 172 that had engine failure at 7,000, fuel selector was in the both position, vapor lock.
@TheSonicsean
@TheSonicsean 2 жыл бұрын
The pilot was 100x calmer than I would be if my engine went out at 11000 feet.
@infotechsailor
@infotechsailor 5 жыл бұрын
A few mistakes in the subtitles in this one but still pretty good. @2:22 that is the pilot and not approach talking
@ChrisC97232
@ChrisC97232 3 жыл бұрын
That controller was more concerned about the engine failure emergency than the pilot himself. 🧐
@timquain5341
@timquain5341 2 жыл бұрын
I bet that hot coffee or hot chocolate was the best he has ever had :)
@Taurineg
@Taurineg 4 жыл бұрын
I aspire to be the type of pilot that is in the middle of an emergency and key the mic and goes *you boys mind bringing along of a cup of black coffee?*
@RT-qd8yl
@RT-qd8yl 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we all just need a blanket and some hot chocolate. Can I get a nice scented candle too? :)
@royalbirb275
@royalbirb275 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, every pilot’s got some Harrison Ford in him. He even got free coffee out of it!
@MilkBoy17520
@MilkBoy17520 3 жыл бұрын
8 hours of fuel remaining in a skyhawk? What does he have drop tanks or something?
@dylanhuculak8458
@dylanhuculak8458 5 жыл бұрын
Who does this guy think he is - Han Solo? (All kidding aside great to see him get down safely)
@RedSky1895
@RedSky1895 7 жыл бұрын
Where did he fit all that 8 hours of fuel? Never heard of a 172 with that big of tanks! Then again, he has a LOT of hours of fuel with the engine off!
@aussiespoon2471
@aussiespoon2471 7 жыл бұрын
Stress.?
@RedSky1895
@RedSky1895 7 жыл бұрын
That's probably the answer, no harm no foul and his attention was certainly elsewhere.
@leardvr
@leardvr 7 жыл бұрын
AJDrac it was a ferry flight from KICT-KBGR (Wichita, KS to Bangor, ME). Most likely extended range tanks. if they were full at t/o of of say KBUF 8hrs at reduced power isn't unheard of. Also it's possible the aircraft was destined for overseas with Bangor being a jumping off point. in which case he would have had ferry flight tanks installed in the cabin and filled them in KICT - the flight to KBGR would have allowed him to test them before going overwater.
@FerrousPatella
@FerrousPatella 7 жыл бұрын
With the engine stopped, the fuel would last at least eight hours.
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 6 жыл бұрын
Ferrous Patella Only if the plane got down safely
@darrylwbraun
@darrylwbraun 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder why he told them he had an engine failure but then said "disregard", but then confirmed an engine failure. I'm just wondering what his thought process was.
@retiredjeff2927
@retiredjeff2927 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed this too but then it was said the engine was running rough. I would assume that at that particular time, the engine was back running ok and he probably thought every thing was going to be ok.
@joshualandry3160
@joshualandry3160 7 жыл бұрын
The engine must have caught and he thought he had it back. His engine appears to have failed due to ice so it probably died, caught again after some air/fuel built up, and died again.
@xwhels
@xwhels 6 жыл бұрын
I think because of the high altitudes because it doesn’t have much oxygen so he should have expected it well run rough i fly the Cessna 172 myself 11.000 is a lot for a Cessna 72 it is naturally aspirated and the performance probably decreased with the time.
@passedhighschoolphysics6010
@passedhighschoolphysics6010 6 жыл бұрын
Latter he said he was able to get the engine running again, but it was rough. I suspect the he declared the emergency/engine failure. Then he got the engine running, and replied with disregard. After applying carb heat and richening the mixture he said the engine was still running rough. Sounds like he didn't have complete engine failure. But it was close enough to being complete engine failure so good enough.
@theodorepollock1273
@theodorepollock1273 5 жыл бұрын
If your engine shuts off at any time other than when you tell it to, it's an engine failure even if you get it back running again.
@williamkillingsworth2619
@williamkillingsworth2619 4 жыл бұрын
What ended up being the Issue that cause the engine to run poorly? Given the cold, I wonder if someone forgot Carburetor heat? Others were reporting icing
@Bigpeat190
@Bigpeat190 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe induction icing ? Climbed right through icing conditions in a non FIKI aircraft
@Lakevalley69
@Lakevalley69 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky he was in a modern airplane. With steam guages he'd lost gyros after a while when still in IMC.
@jacksonriecken5016
@jacksonriecken5016 3 жыл бұрын
These controllers did an excellent job.
@bcbdrums
@bcbdrums 4 жыл бұрын
i notice the atc corrected himself from "souls on board" to "people on board." i thought "souls" was correct? is there a new rule?
@uk7153
@uk7153 4 жыл бұрын
Wondered the same thing
@iatsd
@iatsd 4 жыл бұрын
The US is ever so slowly moving towards ICAO standards. At the current rate they'll have acceptable ATC in about 90 years
@sparrowtail561
@sparrowtail561 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it's the same as the reason behind the NATO phonetic alphabet. Each letter's phonetic is designed so that there may be little to no confusion regarding which letter is being dictated. For example, E and B sound very similar, but Echo and Bravo sound nothing like any of the other phonetics. I think "souls on board" can be easily confused with "fuel on board" as they are very similar sounding to a pilot with a life-threatening emergency. This is just a shot in the dark though, I have no idea what the actual reason is.
@janosmucha4897
@janosmucha4897 4 жыл бұрын
ATC just realised that the pilot is a ginger.
@dominichines9996
@dominichines9996 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they didn't want the pilot including ghosts
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG 5 жыл бұрын
2:03, the captions get ahead of the video for one round. :)
@alexandredavid3812
@alexandredavid3812 3 жыл бұрын
Hot chocolate! LOL what a dude
@dm55
@dm55 5 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have a little info at the end of these videos.
@zwilk18
@zwilk18 7 жыл бұрын
Hey my town and my home airport are visible on the map. Its so weird seeing something like this happening so close to home
@kodeine222
@kodeine222 7 жыл бұрын
zwilk18 indiana im assuming
@zwilk18
@zwilk18 7 жыл бұрын
Jesse Dominguez not quite. it's New York state
@ryanhartman7752
@ryanhartman7752 3 жыл бұрын
at least they didn't have to shut down runway 28 after he touched down
@ideegeniali
@ideegeniali 3 жыл бұрын
Subtitles freeze because of the cold air @ 11000 feet
@susanwahl6322
@susanwahl6322 5 жыл бұрын
When he changed it from souls to people, does that mean that some of them don’t have souls?
@samuelsamsam4835
@samuelsamsam4835 3 жыл бұрын
yes gingers don’t have souls
@talatsmum
@talatsmum 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could radio for blankets and hot chocolate..
@littleferrhis
@littleferrhis 4 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if that airplane is carbureted, could be carb icing.
@MicrowavedAlastair5390
@MicrowavedAlastair5390 2 жыл бұрын
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 3 жыл бұрын
thought the hot chocolate was just a joke. atc actually asked for that. how kind
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