Some tests for the DIYer to do before swapping out their Vauxhall ignition coil. Handy to do when buying used parts as well.
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@warrenfaithful95354 жыл бұрын
The coil pack often fail when hot so your reading will always be good when cold. The circuit expands causing a short when on a hot engine.
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know, unfortunately in a scrap yard you’ll never know, until you run it on your own car. Sometimes coils blow, I’ve seen a few that don’t spark when cold. Thanks for the input though.👍
@michaelclaridge67484 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the guidance but as a DIYer myself can you tell me what the black wire/connector - far left - pin one ) is connected too ? Thank you
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t connected, to anything. It was for my probe, but not part of the test.👍
@michaelclaridge67484 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 thanks for clarifying - cheers
@MrTenctonian6 жыл бұрын
Can these play up and not bring up the engine management light?
@drivewaydiyer65046 жыл бұрын
Gary Setterfield often, that’s the case with a lot of coils, the spark can become weak or intermittently. This is the case when the coil is breaking down. They often get too hot or leak spark, arcing etc. This is not enough sometimes to throw a code.
@MurrayMints6 жыл бұрын
Good video, but maybe remove the first 3 minutes, people just need to see what to do. 16 dislikes is probably those 3 minutes. Thanks for the video though.
@drivewaydiyer65046 жыл бұрын
Ba dum tss! Thanks for the feedback.
@screwsnutsandbolts5 жыл бұрын
Good videos 👍🏻
@drivewaydiyer65045 жыл бұрын
ScrewsNutsAndBolts thanks a lot , work in progress. Thanks for watching.
@screwsnutsandbolts5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome ! :)
@neildelaney51992 жыл бұрын
Nice tips always welcome many thanks
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome.👍
@derekbracken39157 жыл бұрын
Hi would you know the pin configuration on this coil unit . There's 7 pins and I'm trying to figure out the order to apply 12v to see which one is not working as car is misfiring on cylinder 3 Thanks
@drivewaydiyer65047 жыл бұрын
Derek Bracken hi , if you think one is not firing, then it should flag up a code, they normally do, you could also do a spark test, use a test light and connect to ground. Coils do tend to fail, when hot. Not sure about, the configuration, off the top of my head. If all are sparking, you may have a fuel problem. Good luck
@derekbracken39157 жыл бұрын
Driveway DIYer Thanks man I replaced the coil pack Pin 7 and 8 was not reading a ohm value , so they were for Cylinder No 3
@hellimasingi41026 жыл бұрын
Derek Bracken opel combo not having spak what my be the problem
@derekbracken39156 жыл бұрын
Helli Masingi Is it coil pack or individual coils Helli ?
@drivewaydiyer65046 жыл бұрын
Helli Masingi if there is no spark at all, then check the feed, should be able to do that with a testlight, if only one or two are missing spark, then its most definitely the cassette and will need replacing. Check for arcing or melting spots. Don't discount crank sensor problems either, the crank sensor is in a vulnerable position and they get covered in sludge. This would stop any firing. Good luck.
@xinixxagnix2014 жыл бұрын
2020, you saved me 100 euro, coilpack is ok :))) Thanks m8
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
Xinix Xagnix great news.👍👍
@workshopmechanics11184 жыл бұрын
Nice explaination..thanks
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
workshop mechanics Thanks a lot.👍
@Litesnip20222 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. My astra readings are all over the place. Test leads have a good connection but if you tap the coil being tested the multimeter readings jump all over the place. Might explain why there feels like a misfire on idle and as you rev past 1.5k stationery. No EML on though.
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
Could be your problem, make sure you use a good quality one aswell, if you replace it. Coils can be so temperamental and can be difficult to test.
@andisadler28975 жыл бұрын
I got the GSI mine started playing up juddering when driving back from Scotland. It drove home ok and didnt thtrow up a code i think its my coil packs that are knackered. Few days later it just started misfiring and EML light came on. I then turned key off and it was fine again when started. Can you give any link for breakers for a gsi coil pack, will any Zafira coil pack work>? WILL ANY ZAFIRA COIL PACK FIT THE GSI?
@drivewaydiyer65045 жыл бұрын
Andi Sadler I would be tempted to buy a decent one , rather than a second hand one. Sometimes it takes them to get really hot, before they fail, hence your trip from Scotland, would have been ideal for it to overheat. This depends on your budget though, whether you buy a new one. I think they are transferable from one Zafira to another. Let me know how you get on.
@andisadler28975 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 yes bro sounds like it may have overheated then. it did used to do it slightly in 5th when travelling but now its alot worse of course. Any ideas on the price?
@drivewaydiyer65045 жыл бұрын
Andi Sadler there’s a load on eBay, for various prices, I think a Delphi coil is about 50ish quid. Have a look. I wouldn’t go too cheap, as you might be changing it again, before you know it.
@andisadler28975 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 excellent yes im on it. have you any idea on the code numbers the coil will throw up if any?
@drivewaydiyer65045 жыл бұрын
Andi Sadler for cylinder misfires, it’s most likely a pO300, 301, 302,303,304. 1-4 being the cylinder number.
@arieas4 жыл бұрын
May not see comment in time since I need to make decision on new pack tomorrow, but I couldn't get any reading from the common + pin to any coil, I'll try again but certain the probe is in contact. I did get reading between two pins except one in the connector, that doesn't seem right to me, but not sure. Eg, pin 2 is +, continuity to pin 1 & 4 but not 3. Engine has issues with the idle and sooty plugs, I have throttle issues, but I'd have thought it wouldn't behave like a cylinder is out.
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
arieas are you getting spark on all 4 cylinders. I would do a quick spark test.
@arieas4 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 unfortunately I'm sure, I did test with the pack out of the engine and cranking, while I did hear a click from each plug I didn't actually see a clear spark. Perhaps not the best way to test though. There are no faults logged, except for the eml, but I believe the ecu can pick up misfires only if serious enough.
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
Get a test light ,hook it up to battery negative and put the end of the test light near the coil, the spark should jump to the test light. If they’re all sparking, you may have another issue.
@adamevans81873 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the video, I am going to test mine before I buy a new one. What setting did you use on the multimeter was it 2000k or 200k? I have a cheap £10 lol.
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
I had it on 20k, what symptoms are you getting? Mine wasn’t that expensive, to be honest. Coils often fail when at running temperature. Is it a cold misfire?
@adamevans81873 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 Getting an error code P0302 Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected. Changed the sparks and same issue. Exploring all options before I have to give in and take it in to a garage!.
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
Do a spark test on no 2 to see if it’s firing. If it is, might be an injector issue or a compression problem. Check spark first.
@martinbobfrank2 жыл бұрын
I am not a car mechanic, but I have used a lot of expensive/cheap multimeters. The lower range will give you more accuracy but if the reading goes above it will just read something like 1.0 (Over what I can read). Start from high and go down the ratings. Most of the time accuracy doesn't matter, and so even a £5 meter from Maplins will work.
@christaylor1753 Жыл бұрын
What’s the plus amd negative on the coil pack please ?
@drivewaydiyer6504 Жыл бұрын
I don’t have a wiring diagram for this, but pin 1 is probably positive and 2 is probably ground. I can’t be sure. This cassette is computer controlled, so they are very difficult to test. If you think it’s not firing properly, then I’d do a spark test on it, with a test light.
@christaylor1753 Жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 brill thanks for the info
@austrobok29582 жыл бұрын
We're having an issue with the coil pack on a 2010 Corsa. Workshop wants a crazy pile of cash to sort it out. Know nothing about coil packs, but from another utube vid I learnt that the individ, coils can't be swapped, the whole pack has to be replaced. So the point of testing is?
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
Lots of reasons why a car won’t start, testing a coil is a good idea to make sure, it is the coil and not a wiring or ecu problem. Most of the time it is the coil. Coils are expensive and difficult to return if not problem. It’s a 10min job to replace, though a decent replacement are about a £100. You can get a second hand one for half the price, but not always reliable.
@austrobok29582 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 thanks for your quick reply. Amazing range of prices in the UK it seems, £50 - £150. The local Opel workshop offered to do the work incl spark plugs for R10k, about £480. Even Corsa plugs seem to cost 10x normal plugs, its crazy..
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
You’re paying dealer prices, go independent or do it yourself.
@DoDo-be4xo3 жыл бұрын
Hello! I have astra g with 1,8 motor. But there are only 5 pins.
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
What issue do you have, is it misfiring?
@leotemet22054 жыл бұрын
hello, i need the pinout for this coil pack, im swapping this coilpack into a swift gti suzuki, many thanks!!!! hugs
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
When you say pinout, are you talking about the layout?
@leotemet22054 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 yes mate , the wiring diagram of the coil :) or layout right
@GorkemArikan3 жыл бұрын
@@leotemet2205 could you find it?
@leotemet22053 жыл бұрын
@@GorkemArikan hi gorkem , not :)
@bajval66466 жыл бұрын
Hi, are normal this readings on ignition coil pack (Vauxhall Astra G 1.6 16v, '98) 4.0Mohm, 4.1Mohm, 4.1Mohm and 4.4Mohm. I changed 2 spark plugs after P0351 code, the light on dashboard has gone but the code is still there also car is not working very smoothely as before did.
@drivewaydiyer65046 жыл бұрын
The fact that your readings are the same across the board, would suggest it's ok but you'd have to check with your manufacturing specs. You can check spark, check your sparkplug gaps. You should really change all your plugs at the same time. Check for voltage leak as well.
@bajval66466 жыл бұрын
Driveway DIYer thanks mate If you can tell me more about voltage leak and sparkplug gaps, how to do that, appreciate any help?!
@drivewaydiyer65046 жыл бұрын
Baj Val I’d be tempted to get a second hand unit. The code points to a breaking down coil. Even though there could be variables, to this. As a start do this. There could be computer issues or wiring issues. Check the coil for white spots or signs of melting. You could get a second hand one quite cheap.
@bajval66466 жыл бұрын
Driveway DIYer thanks for your advices mate, but I want to be sure about condition of this one I have before I try another one, or when I find another one want to be sure its in good condition. Today I measured resistance on primary like you did and got 1.2 Ohm in 4 pins, I know resistance need to be 0.6 Ohm, but when i touch 2 pins of multimeter there shows a resistence of 0.6 Ohm, so the resistance of coils need to be 0.6 + resistence of multimeter pins, if so the primary is OK, or resistance need to be just 0.6 that means just resistence of multimeter pins?
@drivewaydiyer65046 жыл бұрын
Baj Val have you tested for spark, get a test light, hook it up to ground and get some one to crank the car. You will need to remove the coil, plug it back in. Hold the test light just away and see if you get spark on all four coils. You should test the wiring at the connector. Aswell. Your code sounds like there’s an electrical problem. Check your sparks first. Good luck
@AdoBroTV7 ай бұрын
My car is not running well, it has no power to drive on hill. I have tested corsa coil that has three of those coils and second one is showing 2.8k+- Ohms and other two 17-18k Ohms. Is my car coil faulty? Thank you!
@drivewaydiyer65047 ай бұрын
I would say so, any cylinder codes?
@AdoBroTV7 ай бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 yes, codes p0300 and p0302 for corsa 2001 3 cylinder
@AdoBroTV7 ай бұрын
Seems its cylinder number 2.
@drivewaydiyer65047 ай бұрын
There you go, sounds like you’ve diagnosed your issue. Good on you. Make sure you buy a good quality coil too.👍
@AdoBroTV7 ай бұрын
I have a question. Do you think I can test this also by removing the coil 2 spring to prevent any contact with the spark plug in cylinder 2, and see if the car's rhythm changes? Would that be safe? I can't find a mechanic on New Year but really need the car.
@RobertMakhuraАй бұрын
This rubbers are they removable
@drivewaydiyer6504Ай бұрын
To be honest, I’ve never tried, I don’t think so.
@paulclarke74062 жыл бұрын
My Astra 08 the battery stoped working so I got a new one the it started to miss fire so I change red the spark plugs but it’s still misfiring
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
Are you getting spark on all the cylinders.any codes? Did you try and jump start the dead battery?
@paulclarke74062 жыл бұрын
Yeah runs fine when started I had to punch start that night the next morning it started fine but I changed the battery just in case before then it went down hill after that like it was coughing so I changed the spark plugs but still doing it is there a way I can check the coil pug
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
Might be worth cleaning terminals , checking grounds. To test the coil , you’ll need a test light. If you’re not sure, might be worth taking it to a mechanic. So many variables to a misfire.
@paulclarke74062 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help
@aquahits56743 жыл бұрын
You saved me pounds thanks mate
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome mate.👍👍👍
@paulalsop74233 жыл бұрын
Good video mate going to give this a try later.
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
Let me know how you get on.👍👍
@dennis12879 Жыл бұрын
mate what would cause error codes p0300 and p0301 together
@drivewaydiyer6504 Жыл бұрын
Bad coil/plugs/wiring, bad injector/wiring, poor compression, check them in that order.👍
@dennis12879 Жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 hello mate i changed the plugs around with no change did a spark test on coil pack getting desent spark with it set at 20 then started on injectors unplugged injector 1 with no change then 2 and it cut out nether did 3 cus it is saying 301 but with no change on 1 would mean i need to replace the injector right? im so grateful for your help mate thanks
@drivewaydiyer6504 Жыл бұрын
Sounds good mate, hopefully that will fix it.👍
@dennis12879 Жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 so grateful man thanks again
@jaydubz99423 жыл бұрын
This video put me on the right path but I noticed @ around 4:22 you appear to have swapped leads and the first lead you had connected to the module wasnt connected to the tester at all. A bit misleading (no pun intended) but thanks for the upload
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
I originally had it connected to a wire connected with a crocodile clip, then I used it without. What symptoms are you having, do you have a misfire?
@Leonidas7410 Жыл бұрын
@drivewaydiyer6504 hello, I have that problem but from that terminal that they initially connected and the output of the coil does not give me a measurement and the part is new, although the car keeps failing so I suspect that the part is defective too, thank you very much
@rifickerochan1874 ай бұрын
true valeur résistance ?
@rifickerochan1874 ай бұрын
Quelle est la valeur de la vérité ou de la vérité ?
@drivewaydiyer65044 ай бұрын
@rifickerochan187 this is purely based on the values of a good coil. Do you have symptoms of a bad coil?
@aberakadabra12852 жыл бұрын
I have a Peugeot coil pack, it is a wasted spark system with 4 pins. It's a fkn headache. Only firing on 2&3
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
Swap it out, any codes?
@aberakadabra12852 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 I put a new coil pack in, no difference. Cleared all codes. Still throwing a P1337 at me. I suspect the ecu is cooked. Also what is eco mode all about ?
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
@@aberakadabra1285 are you getting physical spark at all, Sure it’s not a fuel issue at those cylinders. Maybe an injector issue.
@aberakadabra12852 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 I used the non contact setting on my multimeter to check the spark. But yes I will check the injectors. I do know that the fuel pulse generally runs on the same circuit as the ignition in most EFI cars 🤔
@drivewaydiyer65042 жыл бұрын
If you’re definitely not getting spark in the two cylinders and the you’ve changed out the coil cassette , then there’s definitely a wiring/ connector or ecu issue.
@johncollins8304 Жыл бұрын
Corsa C fires, cuts out. Fuel pressure 50 psi. Throttle body removed, cleaned. Maf sprayed. New crank and Cam sensors. Fires and cuts out. No codes with Xtool D7. Ideas, anyone PLEASE.
@drivewaydiyer6504 Жыл бұрын
Get timing checked, might have jumped a tooth, check coil , compression, check for possible air leaks, crack in intake. You could do with live data, maybe someone with opcom. Have you done a pedal test?
@johncollins8304 Жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 Thanks a lot for a lot of ideas! The Xtool can do live data but the engine has to be running I thought, no? Pedal test just flashed continuously forever,I gave up at 100! Will study how to do the other tests. Just read someone say fuel rail must be 58 psi/4 bar. Mine is 50...
@drivewaydiyer6504 Жыл бұрын
Maybe check out the fuel pump, can you hear it come on. Give the fuel tank a wack.
@johncollins8304 Жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 Thanks again! I changed the pump and filter a few ago, and hear it come on when i put the key in position 2; also when I get the Xtool to action it (it's bi-directional) -- one of the few things I've learnef on it.
@drivewaydiyer6504 Жыл бұрын
Try spray carb cleaner through the intake and starting the car to see if it runs. If it runs then you know it’s fuel related.
@tonyweavers42925 жыл бұрын
Good info but you do waffle on a bit.
@drivewaydiyer65045 жыл бұрын
Tony weavers I have been told.😂 Thanks for watching.👍
@DisturbedFX_3 жыл бұрын
Yeah going on about the scrapyard all the time 😂
@melv690074 жыл бұрын
Damn you do waffle on
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
YoPappa so I’ve been told, thanks for watching👌
@JS-ri2rx3 жыл бұрын
3 out of 4 resistance readings couldn't be seen as you covered the meter with your hand. Need better mic and lighting but otherwise good video
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
This was one of the very first videos, I did, with an old camera. I will probably do an updated version of it. I kept it on, even though there’s mixed reviews, it did seem to be helping people. Thanks for watching.👍
@JS-ri2rx3 жыл бұрын
@@drivewaydiyer6504 Keep up the good work.
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
Thankyou 🙏
@tomrucroft950916 күн бұрын
video starts at 3:19
@johnwylde49593 жыл бұрын
Good video but could have been a lot shorter. Too much dialogue
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, thanks for watching.👍👍👍
@maxautouk3 жыл бұрын
Goodness me, people going on that you're waffling on and such like but actually all this information is sage advice if only they could take 2 seconds to actually educate themselves... Big surprise you can't learn to test a coil pack comprehensively in 2 minutes... You could literally spend a week going in depth on spark diagnostics
@drivewaydiyer65043 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty thick skinned, you really can’t test these things that well. Most of the time they get swapped out as a precaution. A lot of the time they fail when they heat up. Normally you can see. Hot spot or where they’ve deteriorated. If you can get some specs and test it , then even better. Most people want a quick easy fix, that doesn’t happen that often.
@chrpchr1christodoulou4764 жыл бұрын
Talk talk talk talk talk talk tal tal tal ta ta ta t t t t . . . 2 minutes were more than enough. Talk talk talk tal tal tal ta ta ta t t t . . .
@drivewaydiyer65044 жыл бұрын
Yeah thanks👍
@aristoman1008 ай бұрын
Could have given any useful information in 30 seconds
@drivewaydiyer65048 ай бұрын
Hope you got something from it..Thanks for watching.👍