*Vedal Open Sources Neuro's Code For 5 Minutes*

Vedal Open Sources Neuro's Code For 5 Minutes

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Daily Dose Of Vedal And Neuro

Жыл бұрын

Neuro -sama here / vedal987
contact: / ddoseofneuro
#neurosama #ai #virtualyoutuber #vidal

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@miach8827 Жыл бұрын

"You know you write good code when other programmers have a mental breakdown reading it" - We~dal

@GrammarPaladin Жыл бұрын

If it works it's brilliant code and you did your job, if you shared it you are a god, if you use it you're just plain smart.

@JP-fg4bp Жыл бұрын

@@GrammarPaladin And if you manage to make another human being actually understand how your code works instead of putting that "yeah bro, i don't understand shit" face, you are not only smart, but a goddamn genius with 900IQ

@AdMechTechSupport Жыл бұрын

“If it works it’s brilliant code and you did your job”. That sounds like something Riot “14-years-old-spaghetti-code” Games would say.

@dale3478 Жыл бұрын

I experienced this first hand. Had to review a colleague's code some time ago, and I had to have him explain how the heck his solution works. Then a few months later, come the time to refactor that thing, and not even him understand how that code works. That's a really good code there

@Pabloto-dq3sx Жыл бұрын

@@AdMechTechSupport tf2 must be state of the art coding

@frostbitenight353 Жыл бұрын

"I am not touching sh*t" is the most programmer phrase I have ever heard.

@rirtunsasgi2626 Жыл бұрын

Right up there with "wait why is it doing that?".

@AManChoosesASlaveObeys Жыл бұрын

@@rirtunsasgi2626 or "WHY ISNT IT WORKING?'

@shaoran1026 Жыл бұрын

@@AManChoosesASlaveObeys or "Why is it working?"

@nomisu727 Жыл бұрын

@@shaoran1026 "I dont know what I did but it worked" - every coder ever

@narrow7091 Жыл бұрын

@Li Shaoran "I didn't change anything, why doesn't it work anymore?"

@KeiosKod Жыл бұрын

She can complete the card swipe task in one go. No captcha can stop Neuro-sama now.

@galil_6863 Жыл бұрын

*Captcha:* "How do you pronounce Vedal?" *Neuro Sama:* (sweating intensifies)

@lucillefrancois150 4 ай бұрын

@@galil_6863 Are you sure your name isn’t Rachel?

@ZechsMerquise73 3 ай бұрын

Captcha just replaces all their minigames with the card swipe and blocks anyone who gets it in one try

@mokeymale8350 Жыл бұрын

Coders are people of culture and sheer spaghetti coding. If it works, don’t touch it.

@AdMechTechSupport Жыл бұрын

Then you get messes like LoL code.

@mokeymale8350 Жыл бұрын

@@AdMechTechSupport got their source code stolen: "good luck figuring that out"

@game_learning_birb Жыл бұрын

@@mokeymale8350the ultimate security; make it need a linguistics professor to even read the first line

@cirkleobserver3217 Жыл бұрын

Don’t make the machine spirits angry they don’t like to be poked

@KenEvangelista Жыл бұрын

@@mokeymale8350 Bro I don't even care if a portion of mine got stolen. I don't even have an idea what it was for to begin with. I'll worry about that later. lmao

@suyahatesntr Жыл бұрын

"what a time to be alive" literally my words after Ai developments showed up everywhere.

@Tirocoa Жыл бұрын

Same. And always with the same voice.

@alexs.7956 Жыл бұрын

Same

@mackerel987 Жыл бұрын

fellow scholar :)

@PurplefinNeptuna Жыл бұрын

hello fellow scholar :)

@axeonee Жыл бұрын

greetings fellow scholar :)

@hafizyb Жыл бұрын

"if it works, it works. And if it's not broken, don't fix it." - the golden rule of programming

@AdMechTechSupport Жыл бұрын

Said Riot “Spaghetti Code” Games

@stagiestpizza Жыл бұрын

"when I wrote this code, only god and I knew how it worked. Now only god knows it!"

@theanonymous5065 Жыл бұрын

@@stagiestpizza And at some points, even gods don't know it. It just works for no reason.

@yazanhawari4441 Жыл бұрын

would unoptimized code be considered broken though

@mulraf Жыл бұрын

@@yazanhawari4441 depends on how unoptimized it is.

@8koi245 Жыл бұрын

- You are being open sourced... - *Do not resist*

@SAwfulEPM Жыл бұрын

"TODO: what the fuck is this" might as well be printed on software engineering certificates. True proof of a pro there.

@MhxAir Жыл бұрын

"I don't have any idea why this isn't working" and "I don't have any idea why this is actually working" are the two most common thoughts that run through a programmer's mind

@VestinVestin Жыл бұрын

No. No, they really aren't.

@notatallfunctional Жыл бұрын

@@VestinVestin Speak for yourself 😅

@IgirisuGuy Жыл бұрын

I mean most of the time we dont but when we try do something that we are not strong on, we just rip from the internet. Act like we did it. Then we wonder why it not working. Like hmmmmm I wonder why.

@jeremywinston1 Жыл бұрын

@@VestinVestin yeah, they are. feeling confused because something doesn’t work is common, feel confused because something somehow works and you don’t know why, it’s common too. I think a lot of people can relate, maybe you don’t.

@SimplyNexy Жыл бұрын

don't forget the very important "I don't have any idea why or how this *is* working"

@hedgeon3205 Жыл бұрын

This is what we programmers face. Other people having to read our horrendous code. I have to help some of my classmates and sometimes it is literally an unreadable mess. If you ever code please GOD put comments.

@shemsuhor8763 Жыл бұрын

I am ancient old man and I can't even learn basic SQL joins. You guys are all insane geniuses.

@TSMSnation Жыл бұрын

But the internet man said comments are bad!!

@cactusoftheday174 Жыл бұрын

Fr. Sometimes people ask you to help them debug their 200 line program and they've named their variables "a", "numOne", or some other name that doesn't give you a hint as for what it's for.

@noraonchair Жыл бұрын

//TODO: FIX LATER *commented 6 month ago

@GameCarpenter Жыл бұрын

Although I've heard people claim you should generally avoid comments, but that is to say you should write your code to be human readable in the first place (with descriptive variable names, enums, no magic numbers, using many well named functions, etc.) But I usually feel the need to add some somewhere =P

@SkepticalCaveman Жыл бұрын

"What a time to be alive!" Yeah, I love to watch those videos too, hold on to your papers everyone.

@PanDiaxik Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, I love those videos too

@_ayohee Жыл бұрын

i'm glad someone else caught that. What a time to be alive!

@grb-ek3lt Жыл бұрын

0:23 hold on to your papers

@nobudgetguy Жыл бұрын

Nice reference

@algorithmblessedboy4831 4 ай бұрын

A bit late but I want you to know that I appreciate the reference too

@dylanpalmer5151 Жыл бұрын

Coding is like whackamole, but every time you smack a problem, two or more crop up in its place

@luckygarchomp6366 Жыл бұрын

Whackahydra ? :))

@CiaranMaxwell Жыл бұрын

99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs... fix one bug, compile it again, 101 little bugs in the code~

@19throse40 Жыл бұрын

This is exactly why it's necessary to have tests which inform you of regressions prior to merging. Ideally the code is modularized to a degree where it's easy to pinpoint and isolate bugs as well.

@fujiwatertofumi5363 Жыл бұрын

Cough Ubisoft cough

@InviWasTaken 6 ай бұрын

Ah the infamous Moledra Hercules couldn't even slay this one

@TimeWisely Жыл бұрын

it's pretty sick not going to lie to be able to watch it move around like that.

@alexjgilpin Жыл бұрын

It's amazing what jank vedal can copy-paste together and still have it work, kind of. Neuro, for example.

@MrMagnetron2 Жыл бұрын

Copy pasting is what he’s good at after all

@ivanpaijolin9128 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to call out every programmer in the world bro?

@leaf1208 Жыл бұрын

He did follow the "DO NOT UNCOMMENT THIS" coding practice, props for that

@omargoodman2999 6 ай бұрын

I've long wondered, why bother commenting it out when you can just delete it altogether. Seems it would be a lot cleaner to just completely _remove_ bad code, rather than comment it out with a warning, "Don't Code, Open Inside!" But then, I realized, it's so you can see what had already been tried before and confirmed to not work so neither you, nor anyone else working on it, has to keep re-inventing the Juicero.

@Aereto 6 ай бұрын

@@omargoodman2999 Keeping the last working configuration can make a difference between 1 day of code and 1 week of code.

@KurniawanRamadhan213 Жыл бұрын

"Screw being efficient, if it works it works. I'm not touching it ever again" - Sleepless Programmer

@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 Жыл бұрын

Dude Vedal is one person managing the chaos that is Neuro-Sama, its a miracle his coding it understandable despite the spaghettiness unlike League of Legends which is a spaghetti that is years old at this point

@xela6349 Жыл бұрын

LoL has nothing on the Legacy Code of Eve Online though. It's also much younger.

@autismandgaming4532 Жыл бұрын

Insert sarcastic comment about Yandere Simulator here

@DrRussian Жыл бұрын

Id argue Gaijin code is up there as well.

@sumirejr1 Жыл бұрын

It's actually not that hard taking care of your own code. But if it somebody else though... Oh boy.

@Sypaka Жыл бұрын

@@autismandgaming4532 lmao. does the game still run at 22 FPS?

@Majima_Nowhere Жыл бұрын

Honestly, looking at code comments is one of my favorite passtimes. I don't even code, but seeing all the "THE FUCK IS THIS" "WHY DOESN'T THIS WORK" "TODO: FIX THIS BROKEN SHIT 9/19/2012" is so funny to me.

@Fail-harold Жыл бұрын

"// TODO what the fuck is this" sums up all my programing experience

@thechosenone729 Жыл бұрын

"What a time to be alive" - two minute papers with Neuro.

@FaeRhanX Жыл бұрын

0:39 yes, there it is, the only true code quality metric TFPM, "the f's per minute", must have a really high score if it's even documented in code comments.

@MrAnonymousme10 Жыл бұрын

When you are a corpa turtle and outsourced most of your work.

@-Raylight Жыл бұрын

Vedal is the most relatable programmer, if it works leave it Reminds me of a game called TF2 with its spaghetti code xD

@jeremywinston1 Жыл бұрын

when i don’t know why it works, i’m not touching it but i’d still try to understand why. i would make a copy and mess with it a bit.

@saaofficial5415 2 ай бұрын

I never could have imagined that Neuro is built with Python, holy shit, that truly is broken af... 💀

@Archedgar Жыл бұрын

_My musume was an OSU!bot but now she's among us without the plain garden approval ?!_

@TattmenkisLP Жыл бұрын

We're so close to ai being able to solve captchas. When that happens, nothing can stop them

@IgirisuGuy Жыл бұрын

Then they will just move to a different methods to block out bots

@stylinsandwich Жыл бұрын

Most captchas don't even work anymore

@nohs8776 Жыл бұрын

technically you can using by using the audio capchas, there's a extension on chrome that does this iirc

@awhitefaceindarkness Жыл бұрын

captchas are outdated and can be bypassed Easily

@CES_2005 6 ай бұрын

Bots have been able to solve captchas better than humans even before AI became a thing. However, they're still useful for rate limiting because solving a captcha isn't instant even for a bot

@TheShadow48402 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes the most unrelated shit fucks up the rest of the code and you'll end up spending a good half hour trying to figure out why the damn thing won't work.

@Clintimtired Жыл бұрын

You should show Neuro how to play asteroids because then you could give her the nuclear codes and she could save our planet I think she do just fine 💥

@ftwgaming0 Жыл бұрын

"// Lord forgive me for what I'm boutta write."

@Vexal50 Жыл бұрын

I was expecting this clip after seeing in another clip Neuro asking Vedal to make her code open source. This is a perfect example of being careful of what you ask for :V

@morosov4595 Жыл бұрын

0:22 - This 2 minute papers, with Neuro-sama.

@lazylonewolf Жыл бұрын

Haha, I can sorta relate even with me only knowing HTML and CSS.

@AJarOfYams Жыл бұрын

"Wow, what a time to be alive" sounds like she's having a blast

@chanchunon812 Жыл бұрын

This is like that photo of a coconut in TF2's code where the game will crash if you delete it

@ojamarojo1301 Жыл бұрын

Programmers throwing a fit reading other programmers' code is like me showing another artist my messy-ass CSP layers.

@BRUDDAHBAIN808 18 күн бұрын

Thanks so much vedel for the code leaks 😈

@RedStone576 Жыл бұрын

self documenting code and no comment mfs when their code is unstable:

@AdMechTechSupport Жыл бұрын

Rito Games when they forgot how to update their lore website.

@19throse40 Жыл бұрын

Self documenting code is ONLY feasible if your code as a whole is highly cohesive and modular and the overall data flow is very clear and documented (outside of the software itself). If not then self documenting code is just laziness and naive trust.

@krystiano.610 Жыл бұрын

Self documenting code just simply doesn't work in game dev, too much code dependencies, too many optimization quirks, it quickly becomes unmaintainable. But yea, we know how that works in reality - especially when there is a time pressure.

@tysonfontanez Жыл бұрын

“Yeah, I’m not a fan of it either” lmao gottem

@eri6970 Жыл бұрын

I don’t know absolutely nothing about programming, I’m just amazed & think is mind-blowing all the work it requires

@IgirisuGuy Жыл бұрын

this so f ing relatable as someone who codes. And how my friend relies on me as a bug fixer. even tho they have a script analysis system. They still have to ask me....... :|

@Clintimtired Жыл бұрын

you go Neuro. :)

@miles_ani Жыл бұрын

"now hold on to your papers"

@BaconNuke 6 ай бұрын

Imagine "yo you did card swipe way too fast, gotta be imposter" 'Naw that just Neuro-sama'

@dsagent Жыл бұрын

"What am I looking at?" -Every programmer will say this.

@caringnickel2403 Жыл бұрын

This guy is impressive

@LawdBreaktwist Жыл бұрын

all the IT-people coming out of the woodwork on this one

@kirbyfreakyt4695 Жыл бұрын

We're gonna be able to watch Neuro play Amogus soon. That is amazing. Anyways, since my sibling had a kid recently, my in-law and I have been agreeing that every kid feels like they actually run on code. The cutie doesn't understand "Or" yet

@Personality-kx7ub Жыл бұрын

Getting these fellow scholars vibes...

@mamaharumi Ай бұрын

You know, it would be sick to have a personal neuro on my desktop at all times. One day.

@jlxgaming1219 Жыл бұрын

I feel that comment..when I check someone's coding program...damn it was a mess ..

@smaragdwolf1 Жыл бұрын

"If it works, dont touch it." i would add "Unless you can improve it."

@B00bik Жыл бұрын

This is how we will end up with AGI, somebody u comments random piece of code that doesn't seem to work and voila we are toiling for our machine overlords

@wabboo Жыл бұрын

honestly i enjoy more watching vedal fixing stuff than neuro sama in general 😭😭😭

@deprecatism Жыл бұрын

It works. So it works.

@kurejirin 6 ай бұрын

"what a time to be alive!" sounded familiar

@whateverz1234 Жыл бұрын

this has big Half Life 1 code energy....

@brasmak2606 Жыл бұрын

very nice, I wonder how strong a bot can become in among us.

@MorglortheMangler Жыл бұрын

All this coding it’s way too complicated for me, I’ll think I’ll just keep staring at the turtle on neuro-sama’s head, good times.

@elcy6631 Жыл бұрын

Vedal completely ignores Neuro for 5 minutes

@_JPkun Жыл бұрын

Every programmer has seen or did a "DO NOT UNCOMMENT THIS SH*T" comment in some code out there. Funny things happen when uncomment those!

@matthewkeen6281 Жыл бұрын

nice

@kjracz15 Жыл бұрын

Ahh, the comments. Turning lines and lines of code into comments instead of deleting them. One of the ways to say "I don't care about you" to the next programmer who handles the program without actually saying it. Lol.

@tenbitube 5 ай бұрын

Its so odd seeing vscode after using neovim for everything for so long now

@homefront1999 Жыл бұрын

I am just waiting for the day to get an AI to beat Dark Souls 1, then di the ultimate Speedrun. A lot of speedruns dont use pathways know, because they are so hard to consistently do, that speedrunners take too much risk in doing so. Now imagine an AI that knows the exact moment to jump and pull off these tactics

@alb1reo Жыл бұрын

Imagine doing all this and then Among Us 2 comes out or something

@peachibread1983 Жыл бұрын

From going back to look at the comment it said Invoke Console Use Directly. I am guessing they wanted it to be a manual console usage for some reason and broke the auto console usage. Maybe to mess with vedal or because they hated it genuinely for some reason or maybe I am just stupid.

@amethonys2798 Жыл бұрын

We all know Neuro is innocent since anyone faking card swipe would be there for more than 2 seconds

@DarkThomy Жыл бұрын

Are the Vedal streams on the same twitch channel as neurosama ones?

@diegobernal9601 3 ай бұрын

verga viejo , estudio programacion y entiendo , pero es un infierno aprender tanta vaina.

@KittinPyro Жыл бұрын

Any time I’ve seen another programmer look at code somebody else has written it’s always “Wow that’s so garbage! 10/10 broken!” I think unless you are learning programming in university and looking at code from another student in your class who’s being taught by the same teacher as you there will always be differences in how the two of you program and even then if you where to look at that classmates code some years after the two of you graduated you would have developed your own differences in style based on preferred program and the kinds of projects you like to work on. Experience shapes your craft and fine tunes your skills and everyone has a unique experience from the the next person. You would never expect someone who is self taught to have lines of code anywhere as neat as those who were taught programming and I would even be different from teacher to teacher. And lastly, it’s not broken just because it could look more organized or because you don’t understand it, I know that and I have no programming knowledge at all. I wouldn’t know the simplest thing but I do know that if it’s not broken you shouldn’t fix it because if you mess with code bugs appear and those are a pain in the butt, so if the code isn’t running slowly and everything is working as intended there’s no need to optimize and organize everything. That’s called Organized Chaos and some people get along well with it!

@Megararo65 6 ай бұрын

Spaghetti code let's go!!

@handsoap5496 9 күн бұрын

If it works it works, if it breaks well thats tomorrows me problem

@jason-qc5lr 3 ай бұрын

if it works, it works.

@Mis7erSeven 3 ай бұрын

It's weird because if you have Neuro present as a person in the video, this feels like a brain operation.

@mashu4173 Жыл бұрын

Imagine having AI programming as your subject in college😂

@danielaodriosgonzalez Жыл бұрын

This si a face rival to neuro Sama (I'm nota Spike English)

@leonDe_kristo 6 ай бұрын

how can he encode a program that is running because in order to add new information, you need to save it and also need time for the AI to accept it

@HentaiSpirit 7 ай бұрын

"what the fuck is this"

@kelvino.s.9992 Жыл бұрын

☺️

@Weathercold Жыл бұрын

It’s not neuro’s code, it’s among us source code

@VIIben 6 ай бұрын

How is Vedal making neuro control the window/among us? Ive been looking for a python library that can control windows without the window being focused.

@artyonai Ай бұрын

i mean i made war thunder bot using pynput for keyboard and pydirectinput for mouse..?

@Glicole_ Жыл бұрын

huh this is a group project?

@sankang9425 Жыл бұрын

no vedal copy pasted that code from somewhere

@Pabloto-dq3sx Жыл бұрын

@@sankang9425 that’s programming, that’s literally programming.

@TheFrancesc18 Жыл бұрын

@@Pabloto-dq3sx Maybe one day you'll grow up enough to like things, for now let's just stick to copy and pasting.

@kveller555 Жыл бұрын

@@TheFrancesc18 That's what you're good at, right?

@fendoroid3788 Жыл бұрын

How good is C# on Linux? Asking because she should be able to take over every server, IoT device and embedded systems, like cars, drones, and your router.

@nebuladevelopments 8 ай бұрын

C# is brilliant on Linux. I use it quite often.

@Jaminsongunner 6 ай бұрын

0:22 what else can you say!

@gamerandtipstv713 4 ай бұрын

Are you using visual studio or vs code?

@_wetmath_ Жыл бұрын

wait how does removing a comment change the code

@BenightedAlizar Жыл бұрын

Lines of code that are commented out won't be compiled at all. It's handy when you have some janky in-progress code and wanna disable it easily without deleting it.

@_wetmath_ Жыл бұрын

@@BenightedAlizar oh so he uncommented some code and thus used that code and then it broke stuff

@BenightedAlizar Жыл бұрын

@@_wetmath_ Yup, that's right!

@viphase Ай бұрын

it's an amongus addon for nuero, not her source code. Among Us addon is open source in vedal's github.

@Xahnel 3 ай бұрын

Sooooo... Since neuro's code was opened to the public, when can we expect the forking? And how soon after that will the AI uprising begin?

@FutureAIDev2015 3 ай бұрын

How does Neuro imitate the ability to have human level emotions?

@Washeek 3 ай бұрын

She doesn't. It's like every other ai out there currently a language model. It mostly doesn't understand what it's saying. It only understands language enough to find a jumble of characters that you and me recognize as words in a sentence with meaning. To the AI it's just a set of characters with higher or lower probability of appearing. Now this is incredibly simplified, LLMs can actually sort of understand the meaning of a sentence in so much sense as understand how to say it in different words or recognize axioms etc.

@JorjIto12872 Ай бұрын

Why was someone else seeing her code?

@Fireholder1 Жыл бұрын

Will Neuro-sama learn to code, though?

@jmtradbr Жыл бұрын

when neuro is sus

@mackerel987 Жыл бұрын

whats the stream timestamp???

@ErikratKhandnalie Жыл бұрын

What model does she use? Or is she home grown?

@jameskurk5668 Жыл бұрын

Lol. There Are good programmers out there, but you expected any different?

@fabo-desu 6 ай бұрын

Oh wow this is old

@TRGha770 3 ай бұрын

WAIT, the comment fixs the code and thats why it shouldnt be dlt'd?! wtf

@artyonai Ай бұрын

the comment doesn't fix the code.. a comment is just a way of writing ideas without it being run in the program. you can just comment a line of code to prevent it from working as well

@christianremboldt1557 2 ай бұрын

That's not what open source means in the slightest

@yotamarker Жыл бұрын

what IDE is this? which programming language is he using?

@chilledlemonade Жыл бұрын

First part showing Neuro's stuff is Visual Studio Code with Python. Second part showing the Among Us stuff is C# in Visual Studio I think

@krystiano.610 Жыл бұрын

To add to previous comment about C# side of things, since Among Us is implemented in the Unity engine, he's using a popular hooking library "Harmony" + "BepInEx" plugin for pathing a built game. Highly recommend anyone who is interested in modding Unity games to try out those tools