Glad it exists, but it needs better balancing. Gunner should have much more HP, blightstormers should exist but with much longer CDs than campaign, life leeches would be nice and skill expressive, but with a longer CD on their teleport so they can't just TP in, TP out. Assassin should do more shred dmg based on distance travelled to land on a hero, which would incentivize sniping and would also allow players to have a second or two to react to a sniping assassin by shooting him out of the air creating great gameplay moments and rewarding skill, and hookrat... he should just be a little faster in all his actions, honestly. Also, give players bosses to control, like rat ogre etc. And voila, I think it'd be pretty great.
@temst25613 ай бұрын
u mean globadiers instead of blightstormers
@user-rd3ou5ev6o3 ай бұрын
@@temst2561 Yes that too, their CD should be a second or two longer, but Blightstormers have practically 100% uptime on their storm if they have LOS, so they'd need a massive CD nerf. :)
@alt07993 ай бұрын
God no please no blightstormers.
@Mach-2-Fishbed3 ай бұрын
I'm curious if they could do melee units, especially something like a Chaos warrior or Stormvermin with a shield to give the pactsworn team something more resistant to ranged damage. I wonder if they could do something where every so often, the pactsworn team could spawn or vote to spawn together as a group of savages/plague monks.
@therealacro94183 ай бұрын
Blightstormers would be very broken. Even now AI can cast storms through the walls sometimes
@JCtheSpy3 ай бұрын
Versus is pretty cool so far, I think fatshark has something good cooking here
@robertoravelo19403 ай бұрын
It's cool, there's a lot of work to be done tho, it's omega unbalanced right now towards the heroes. Pressing W it's too OP and the rats cannot do anything to punish them for continuously doing so
@SuperCatacata3 ай бұрын
Thank god someone is actually doing this properly after l4d2
@chasejordan56763 ай бұрын
@@robertoravelo1940rats need a point system to like summon enemies as Allie’s, like stormvermin squads or chaos warriors or even maybe a rat ogre
@Alex-hy9cw3 ай бұрын
@@chasejordan5676 I'd say a points + deaths system where if they die to much they could get additional backup.
@deskslam42323 ай бұрын
@@robertoravelo1940 fr, you can just run through most attacks and brush them off
@vivienboo15763 ай бұрын
I just hope we get to play the bosses too
@codex38493 ай бұрын
My favourite is STORMVERMIN AHH Yeah baby.!!
@withgoodtaste3 ай бұрын
As far as I know Fatshark said "nein".
@vivienboo15763 ай бұрын
@@withgoodtaste NOOOOOO
@MaSuDezender3 ай бұрын
@@withgoodtaste did they really cut off bosses out of pool. Are they really that dumb to cut one of best part of Left 4 Dead? Even in Killing Floor 2 PVP you can play patriarch...
@carlosfred8673Ай бұрын
@@MaSuDezender I'm happy we are getting a new L4D2-esque Versus Mode again to play.
@TheOmertosa3 ай бұрын
So far Fatshark is cooking good. About time someone started doing the l4d versus format and made it real close to how l4d's works.
@sawkman20923 ай бұрын
Yeah, someone other than the "oRigiNal cREatorS".
@conorstabler60933 ай бұрын
From what i can gather in this, warrior priest and grail knight will sadly be almost unplayable with how much special sniping you need.
@kubakowalik65983 ай бұрын
Warrior priest can counter specials with his ult very well. And taking dmg gives him ult CD, allowing to spam it quite frequently.
@conorstabler60932 ай бұрын
@kubakowalik6598 fair enough, but still, grail knight will be a burden unless we get to play as bosses.
@xenophon53543 ай бұрын
Needs more melee threats to force melee builds to be used
@Schlaechter7893 ай бұрын
This looks fun, I hope they increase the frequency of trash mobs and add more specials:)
@insaniam_convertunt_scientiam3 ай бұрын
Gang up on one hero at a time and use packmasters to bait heros into preset traps? Yes-yes, kill kill!
@zanaros26063 ай бұрын
This is going to get big and popular~!
@withgoodtaste3 ай бұрын
Versus was really fun. I enjoyed it a lot.
@cowuwu12 ай бұрын
12:30 so thats why assassins always run back and forth for all these years
@Deleteyourself833 ай бұрын
Ngl, this looks awesome
@0sm1um763 ай бұрын
Banger thumbnail
@Chronicles_of_the_Exilian_rim3 ай бұрын
Finally! The mode, which ideally should have appeared at the exit of the game, and which was promised in the first part, appeared in the second later... how long?
@rara35383 ай бұрын
oh nice, gameplay
@marcocivalerian90993 ай бұрын
with only 5 choice of rats to control i feel like people will get bored of this very fast
@joesizlack2 ай бұрын
I always knew it would be great if they pulled the trigger. I hope versus will revive the game 🤞
@Laban61123 ай бұрын
Would be perfect if the Skaven had some control over AI. Like spawning hordes or elites in place of special abilities. Rattling gunners are rally only useful if the heroes are busy with something else, so having an option to make them busy would be great.
@kylecrawford13103 ай бұрын
i really like the new versus
@Crusher8883 ай бұрын
This actually looks cool af
@Allskil883 ай бұрын
About fucking time Fatshark starts the closed beta for something they ironically promised us since open beta.
@henri20583 ай бұрын
Is versus a dlc? or is it some kind of a mode? already out?
@catowarmeowson99643 ай бұрын
love this so far
@smokeandnoob30813 ай бұрын
I know this is just alpha test but do you think there will be chance to play as blightstormer or life leech?
@huntermorningstaraensland33113 ай бұрын
I’d like to play as a Rager or Beastmen Gor plant the banner
@smokeandnoob30813 ай бұрын
I dont think its possible to play as elite, I haven't played L4D pvp but i think you could only pick special zombies not elites@@huntermorningstaraensland3311
@core78223 ай бұрын
Maybe, they would probably be pretty boring to play and i think 2 blights could keep a team trapped indefinitely.
@Greensiteofhell3 ай бұрын
I want to play a Chaos Warrior! ;)
@frankthatfunks24283 ай бұрын
I want to play as the Plague monk or a Berserker so badass
@exodius90543 ай бұрын
There need to be more hordes of ai enemies or a way for the rats to trigger a small hord on their enemies
@Alex-hy9cw3 ай бұрын
Just from a glance this makes it look like the heroes barely take worthwhile damage compared to oneshotting skaven.
@secretname26703 ай бұрын
have you played vermintide 2? That's how it is in game on difficulties below cataclysm.
@vonflare47093 ай бұрын
seems lore-accurate
@adripan3 ай бұрын
Very fun
@goodhoonter39253 ай бұрын
This is so cool so is it only skaven can you not play as a blightstormer?
@caesar_s73433 ай бұрын
I wish Chaos Warriors/Stormvermin were playable.
@macdeath693 ай бұрын
nice nice !!!
@jerichosamurai3 ай бұрын
Been a while since you played L4D2 versus huh?
@DarkBunnyLord3 ай бұрын
Want to enjoy the but pugging it is so fucking painful. Hoping some friends get in soon because the Skaven side really needs good coordination to succeed. Also I do have some concerns about the balance when it comes to gear are skaven going to be able to progress to keep up with gear improvements on players or will they not have gear at all and if so will there be any rewards for playing.
@ClognarThaGreatest.2 ай бұрын
I don’t think they are going to make an entirely new set of weapons for skaven, think it’s more on the level of lfd2 versus.
@blockedjuser12722 ай бұрын
I thought this was dead 4 years a go and than I see on steam that a versus map has been added.
@MyViolador3 ай бұрын
game mode should have more hordes to spawn, since the specials lack a "Boomer" to summon mobs
@prich03823 ай бұрын
Wish Verses was like a Twitch thing where people in the chat and have the game can queue up to join in and play as Elites, Specials and even Monsters, would be so cool. Like also more than 4 players too, 4 v 4 is too small, 4 v 8 or even more would be so cool
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi3 ай бұрын
That sounds horrible, 50 people joining a minute lol considering how fast you die Then if someone has a slow connection/PC you make the whole thing op or boring af
@queuebe40683 ай бұрын
You would die the same way with 4? It wouldn’t change anything other than the connection probably
@DhQs3 ай бұрын
4v4 is the ideal versus if you want to play 32 vs 32 people play battlefield games
@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi3 ай бұрын
@@DhQs There is always modded realm for that kinda stuff too, leave the fun silly ideas to that.
@DhQs3 ай бұрын
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi nope
@angrykouhai20533 ай бұрын
The killfeed being in the center of the screen is absolutely aids.
@giaoton43683 ай бұрын
how to enter versus mode ?
@bloodhaze1013 ай бұрын
I really want to play as stormvermin or berserkers!!!!!!
@confiteor2663 ай бұрын
yeah, sure would be fun to be a melee only character with no gapcloser so you die 100% of the time before you can even swing your weapon. or better yet, getting one shot headshotted from 90% of the meta weapons!!!
@bloodhaze1013 ай бұрын
@@confiteor266 you get it :)
@tiagomarx50723 ай бұрын
You think we'll be getting Blighstormers or Leeches?
@jeremytan7393 ай бұрын
Blight might be too strong
@user-rd3ou5ev6o3 ай бұрын
@@jeremytan739 just double-triple the CD of the storm and he should be fine, bigger issue why shark didnt include them is probably the incredibly difficult to balance/upkeep teleporting abilities, their maps are notorious for being badly designed on a geometry metric so in testing they prob kept teleporting out of the map when TPs are manual and that's easily abusable
@kiwi_cake3 ай бұрын
saving pvt legate
@lustingsavage21903 ай бұрын
On ps4 too old gen?? Ima go hope on ass soon as i get home
@boss-rm9ie3 ай бұрын
Why does everything do 0 damage When i was playing cata a single hit did half my hp
@JondarKorric3 ай бұрын
the closed alpha is set to recruit difficulty.
@conorstabler60933 ай бұрын
I think balance wise, cata would be almost impossible for the heroes.
@exotixzamateurva89573 ай бұрын
Maybe for mere mortals. But for those who wish to enter the crucible of skavendom and come out the otherside, they'd be like a new breed of vermintide player@@conorstabler6093
@h.h.w60843 ай бұрын
@@conorstabler6093 Nah, people clear cata + deeds all the time, so I dont really see why it would be impossible at cataclysm difficulty. Arguably they should bump up the ingame difficulty from recruit to champion/legend to make the specials actually threatening. The way it is now, healing is so incredibly abundant and damage so little people can genuinely go full speedrun-team and just slam through missions before the specials can even do much.
@thebenvz.3 ай бұрын
@@h.h.w6084Cata + deeds would be MUCH easier than going against a team of 4 good specials with cata spawns, health and damage. It wouldn't be close.
@thesongoflunch3 ай бұрын
Not all teh classes and balancing all over the place. I think they just left thius gamemode on the shelf for too long
@Sherudons3 ай бұрын
Should add in some more rat types too, jezzels beg for this level of verticality, one shot with ok damage and a long reload, the rat ogre or even monstrosity, hell even a storm vermin packleader since this seemed like they were never even pressured with trash mobs. The flamer, gas and assassin seem to be the only real dangers the rest are dead in a hard sneeze, still interesting.
@Vekkgods3 ай бұрын
That poor team playing against the best 😂
@DezZzO_YT3 ай бұрын
"the best"
@horseface4703 ай бұрын
Fatshark cooking?
@bigcheeseontoast98293 ай бұрын
baso left for dead versus
@camellia_black3 ай бұрын
18:16 bruh
@arrynchaos99122 ай бұрын
You are playing the gunner incorrectly. you are playing him reactively whereas you should be playing him proactively. he is slow, you do not have the time to chase enemies with him. Better to set up at a horrible choke for them.
@Kreasddjb3 ай бұрын
Is this real or some mod ?
@robertoravelo19403 ай бұрын
Real real
@thatonelady97723 ай бұрын
Jfc no one has played l4d clearly
@williamking3313 ай бұрын
Let them cook I say, let them cook. (But sending feedback is always a good thing)
@RoyBrown7773 ай бұрын
Wow only 5 years late Fat Shark I purchased this game based on Versus mode comments from the devs. Its 2024. Why cant you pick the stomer guy or the witcher doctor bloke?
@Raindrop5113 ай бұрын
i really wanna be positive but i don't think this is gonna go anywhere xd, this isn't what the game needed, this mode is gonna need a ton of careful balance for people to actually enjoy and i don't think fatshark is capable or willing to invest the time into it, so most likely it will basically be dead on arrival.
@thebenvz.3 ай бұрын
I can understand being skeptical about their execution, but I have no doubt fathsark will do their utmost to make a fun experience with it. The base gameplay so far has been very fun, and as a proof of concept is phenomenal. It obviously requires a lot of balancing but they have many ways to do this.
@Raindrop5113 ай бұрын
i hope it turns out alright, the playerbase of this game has been dwindling and i would like to see it go up again, it was my go to game to play on a weekend or when i had free time.@@thebenvz.
@marquisepixley6843 ай бұрын
I disagree with you
@mememachine67633 ай бұрын
Darktide is sorely in need of big content dumps, but they would rather dedicate a team to make a versus mode for a game that is half a decade old and gets around 2k average players, whilst their brand new game came out unfinished and has dropped to around 3.5k player average. The decision making at Fatshark is baffling.
@confiteor2663 ай бұрын
@@mememachine6763 there are two different dev teams, bozo. I agree with your sentiment though. As sad as it sounds, they should move people to darktide where they will be earning the majority of their revenue for the foreseeable future. This game's lifecycle is reaching its end and doesn't require content updates or dlc as badly as darktide does, with only 2 missions being added in over a year of being "live service"
@teanthide84583 ай бұрын
Looks really unbalanced and frankly boring.
@someonenoone.3 ай бұрын
then dont play it!
@Vampshroom4203 ай бұрын
@@someonenoone. God you people are cringe. Hes obviously not going to play it...
@someonenoone.3 ай бұрын
@@Vampshroom420 thanks for commenting man, really appreciate the passion!
@thebenvz.3 ай бұрын
It's almost as if an alpha version of the mode meant to test the core mechanics, is not made to be fully fleshed out and balanced yet. Wild.