Joel is nothing but another soul tie for Vern. What a waste of her energy
@Praznalways3 жыл бұрын
Uggghhh and soul ties are forever, what a waste...
@Change2be13 жыл бұрын
why would she sleep with him not even really knowing him and who knows the bed situation could have been the turning point for him.
@papalegbasson24473 жыл бұрын
Vern has many soul ties if that's the case. Whatever number she gives you times it by 3!
@teejack81083 жыл бұрын
Chile
@teejack81083 жыл бұрын
@@Change2be1 These people are grown. This ain't high school.
@DomoniqueVonlue3 жыл бұрын
I like V. She seems to be very genuine and passionate. I think she gave Joel too many passes and I’m sorry that she was hurt during the process. I’m glad V recognized that this is not for her and is moving on with dignity in tact. Best wishes to her.❤️
@NoLyeNapturallyMe3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I like her too. I'm glad she's moving forward/pass this.
@Firefly4713 жыл бұрын
Same here. I like Vernisha. I am glad she moved on.
@cartierwhite_lasvegas3 жыл бұрын
I like Vern , she is to fine to be with Joel , like seriously , Joel looks old and tired and run down
@sandewoods3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree! A real genuine beautiful lady! She didn't deserve that treatment from Joel. You live and learn. Move forward!!!
@iamzhart52443 жыл бұрын
Right..Sis, the non communication was a red flag. The time he stood her up should have been the end. Sis, gave up the goods up way too soon. He just wanted the 🍪.
@sasasavage50473 жыл бұрын
I think Joel was attracted to Vern and liked her. However, I do not think he was interested enough to pursue anything long term. As a result, he used her to get to the end of the show and then bounced. It's sad. It may seem harsh to cut men off if they apologize after doing things like showing up late to dates or standing you up, but those are red flags that should be taken seriously. Honestly, Joel choosing Kyra just because they had a disagreement should have been the stop light for Vern.
@heyrobertcarter13 жыл бұрын
You said that, straight no chaser. Thank You!
@brooklynforever19903 жыл бұрын
Yup she shouldn’t have believed a word out his mouth from that point.
@sasasavage50473 жыл бұрын
@@heyrobertcarter1 I ended things with a guy who was interested in me because not only did he show up to our date late, but his hygiene wasn't even 100%, so I knew he wasn't late getting ready (still had a scraggly beard, uncut hair, and crust in his eyes). He let me know ahead of time that he was running late, but I feel that if I can do hair and make up and arrive on time, so should you. If you don't and don't try to look your best, it shows me you aren't as interested in me as I require. He could call me every night, but when it came to actual effort, it was a let down. These are red flags I pay close attention to.
@heyrobertcarter13 жыл бұрын
@@sasasavage5047 Exactly!!!!!
@thee.amberb3 жыл бұрын
Mutha flippn FACTS! 👏
@badddd3 жыл бұрын
This is why the ones who get sent home "early" shouldn't be mad or have a bad attitude about it, it may be the best thing to happen to you. If the connection isn't there, you should be glad to get out of there
@fayetk74233 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same thing when Alexis was being embarrassed by AJ, a cruel rejection and chosing Kyra again, I was thinking, I would rather be Andrea in this case. 🤦🏾♀️
@BellesView3 жыл бұрын
@@fayetk7423 Same!
@cartierwhite_lasvegas3 жыл бұрын
Yes very true
@latresawilliams11583 жыл бұрын
I keep saying Kyra dodged a bullet.
@parisjej3 жыл бұрын
@@latresawilliams1158 She seen it coming and blocked both from AJ and Jason. Liz is a placeholder and Jason still hurt Kyra didn’t choose him so he settled for Liz she seems more like his mom.
@phalynwilliams41193 жыл бұрын
V’s hair is pretty. She is a very pretty woman. Joel is a player. He was after the cookie 🍪. V wanted a real relationship and Joel played games. To be honest, most of the men on the show were playing games. The reason why Frick & Frack left early is because the men didn’t think that they could run games on them because they were talking to each other. Games!
@karenmcgee18693 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@iamashleyyvette3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@ris7ahs9073 жыл бұрын
Facts
@pocahantas673 жыл бұрын
Nail on the head
@advocateforinjustice67313 жыл бұрын
You are a real Sister! Joel not ready for you . Those was high school games. You are Beautiful inside and Out! God will send you the right one.
@queenofthesouth42053 жыл бұрын
Joel was on Vetn like "white on rice"......then he started to get "famous" and lost his mind. Vern smart , pretty and intelligent. Keep going Vern🥂🥂🥂 .
@princessbc97913 жыл бұрын
I completely agree.
@ambermeans28503 жыл бұрын
👏🏾I agree
@peterssister4213 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Facts!!
@sarahgivens71823 жыл бұрын
True
@memaw35103 жыл бұрын
Yes he wants to be famous! God has a good man for you!!
@marshahawkins73603 жыл бұрын
Women as much as you can, look out for the red flags. One was when he chose Kyra because he had a disagreement with Vern.
@A1Will3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Lisare423 жыл бұрын
Yep👍🏽
@cocostylesnyc3 жыл бұрын
Yup !
@droosyg2523 жыл бұрын
When he stood her up and didn’t apologize, that was THE 🚩
@drea07953 жыл бұрын
But if she had, many would’ve been in the comment section talking about “That’s why she still single; too quick to cut something off when someone makes a little mistake. Nobody’s perfect and she needs to quit jumping to conclusions.” I swear people stay finding a way to pin all responsibility on the woman. We legit can’t win for losing. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@amirahannah44103 жыл бұрын
V’s personality has been consistent in her actions and I feel bad that Joel played her like that.
@consciousanfesiashapsnikof86883 жыл бұрын
Explain how Joel played Verneashia rather than Verneashia playing herself like a high school teenager. She should've known better. They never had a conversation about being exclusive.
@carineforetia49843 жыл бұрын
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 isn’t it the purpose of the show? By the way Kyra choose to leave alone because she wasnt ready to commit !
@davidsoncharles20853 жыл бұрын
@@carineforetia4984 did kyra not tell AJ she choose him when he was going to send her home? She did it to stay cuz it was not in that moment she chose him. Her preference was Jason over Aj
@carineforetia49843 жыл бұрын
@@davidsoncharles2085 she knew she wasn’t gonna be sincere if she had said she choose him so she did not! Joel choose Vernisha and was supposed to date her not saying he was single. The purpose of the show is to date and find love or what? If you don’t want a relationship you must leave ! Both kyra and Joel played the others to be able to stay til the end but they knew the were not ready to love! but only one one of them was genuine enough by the end to say I don’t want to be in a relationship with you!
@Gchild2k62 жыл бұрын
V was not perfect. Men want a peaceful women not an insecure angry territorial one.
@esthernalweyiso98053 жыл бұрын
He was not vulnerable 😁 , he is a grown man who wanted to still be around.
@sexxybagogal3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TSCOTT-oz5vy3 жыл бұрын
Water bill not high...lmao. im weak 🤣🤣
@Lovelypersonality3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@chery43 жыл бұрын
You’re only clingy to someone who doesn’t like you. And I don’t agree with the she’s desperate comments. Some people do not like to waste time. He could have easily said verbatim even if it’s uncomfortable that he doesn’t want a serious relationship.
@fayetk74233 жыл бұрын
I was of the opinion that the couples that make it to the end, will be in a committed relationship. 🤷🏿♀️. It's news to me that Joel "didn't want anything serious ", if that's the case, what is he doing on a show called Ready to love, he should be on Tinder for casual encounters. 🤷🏿♀️
@chery43 жыл бұрын
@@fayetk7423 I agree with you. He wanted to make it through the end of the show and Vee wants commitment and it blows me people are blaming her for not seeing the signs. Like she said if he was up front with how he was feeling she would have gladly backed off and left the show…
@angeleyes33863 жыл бұрын
I agree with you; desperate is always the go to label but doesn’t always apply. There’s many other reasons for why women move the way that they do in these instances.
@ML-zj3ph3 жыл бұрын
@@fayetk7423 let’s face it Joel led her on and used her to get to the end! He joined this show for a personal agenda for his 15 minutes of fame! But she is 40 years old and should have been equally on guard to get to see how he moved and who this man really is! He was divorced twice , including from his ex wife who passed away! Why didn’t this show ask the men to let their ex gfs meet the woman?!! Verneisha had a lot of red flags she chose to ignore! He stood her up, and it was in purpose! Never apologized right after the incident, didn’t like her making him accountable! The last straw should have been when he picked Kyra as his number one! How degrading is that if you are such a close knit couple??! 🙄 Verneisha stayed and I’m sure he did other disrespectful things to her that we are not privy to! I hope she and others learn from this situation! 🤷🏾♀️
@chery43 жыл бұрын
@@ML-zj3ph twice ! Lol I didn’t even know that 💀
@ladytea6973 жыл бұрын
I feel V 💯. She was vulnerable, transparent and ready to love. Joel was not. This reinforced for me the need to take your time and get to know someone without sex because sex creates attachment & blinds us. You have to make these men prove themselves and show they’re willing/able to be in a committed relationship. Joel misrepresented himself and as soon as he knew he wasn’t feeling V, he should have self eliminated and not had sex with her. Joel was doing him. He used V. Having sex with V and telling her what she wanted to hear while on the show, then the mask came off when cameras stopped rolling. Although not on a dating show, IRL many of these men pretend to get the 🍪 then change up. We need to take our time ladies and vet these men. Joel revealed how these bayou boys play too many games.
@jennalud47483 жыл бұрын
I know Joel was seeing Stacey!
@simonewealthy22513 жыл бұрын
I see through Stacy and Joel's "friendship/relationship." Joel used her to stay on the show. I believe Stacy and his situation is deeper and they tried to play Jedi mind games with her. And Amber ain't about $#¡+ either. KG needs to walk away b/c that is exactly what she is about to do. 🤷🏾♀️
@goodgirl1703 жыл бұрын
Joel will get his karma
@cjdebono88113 жыл бұрын
Your thought of thinking is the problem. Sex has nothing to do with making a relationship work. Relationships go through up and downs.
@PiscesSun_Capricornrising3 жыл бұрын
They didn't have sex till it ended. So they had time (2 months) to consider. At that point they just wanted to see if the sex was lit probably.
@racistsbegone72153 жыл бұрын
I watched this and I have a better understanding but I still think Vern gave too much too soon.
@rarejourneys3 жыл бұрын
Based on the premise of the show I don’t think so...they knew it was a fast paced thing
@LLoved9913 жыл бұрын
I have a understanding but at the same time if u listen CAREFULLY she still played herself. If you have to beg a man to communicate with you then u need to let him go sis.
@beyourself24443 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@octaviabrown77583 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Especially sex. She didn't make him work hard enough!
@racistsbegone72153 жыл бұрын
@@rarejourneys She did not have to go the pace of the show! WUT?
@jacyhamm92963 жыл бұрын
Vern said: “I don’t read minds and I don’t kiss A$$!’ 🤣
@maxinehaynes43463 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@lb17983 жыл бұрын
Oooopppsssie......YEP!😳😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 25:40..You will be mad before Ima be mad😳😳😜😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 His loss....Joel will regret his actions...I believe that...because your Daddy liked him...and he doesnt seem easily fooled....but Joel thought more of himself than necessary...🤷😒
@keishawilliams75463 жыл бұрын
Clearly she don’t read red flags either
@mattisonjames56393 жыл бұрын
@@keishawilliams7546 thank you!💕
@TheNandM3 жыл бұрын
Right I was laughing 😅too.
@vazyvas47123 жыл бұрын
And Stacy said on live that her and Joel talk everyday..... why was she acting so dumbfounded when vernesha mentioned her possibly liking him. She acted as if that came out of thin air.
@jeeannajuarez41173 жыл бұрын
because she is a performer 🙄 and not a nice person. We seen her with her hands all over a guy’s chest during the reunion! but she “wouldn’t even do anything like that.”
@jasminecampbell58823 жыл бұрын
@@jeeannajuarez4117 that's what I said she's not an honest person. Her and her wonder twin play games, they are too grown for that. They was jealous and hating on V, Amber wanted him too, now Tressa got so much to say, gurl Bye. Best wishes, V. He's a 90 year old Rapper, who dues that?!! Hes the new Peter Broke Azz Guns, he uses and abuses great Women. I think he hates Women .
@EvangelistTonyaMoore3 жыл бұрын
Well, if he talks to Stacy everyday he really should have chose her as his #1 and not Verneisha. Joel is just full of it!!
@mahalia29043 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@americanbeauty1713 жыл бұрын
@@EvangelistTonyaMoore exactly...BOY MAN
@876me73 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest this show is not ready to love, it’s ready for another situationship. There hasn’t been not one married, engagement or long term monogamous relationship that has resulted in any of the remaining 3-4 couples smfh. The ppl on this show just want to promote themselves for the most part. Although there are a few who seem to genuinely be looking for love.
@princessbc97913 жыл бұрын
Ready for Another Situationship!!! Hilarious and true!
@krissy353 жыл бұрын
Joel was definitely promoting himself. I think he latched on to V to make it to the end to get as much exposure as possible. Then he realized how much she was into him and he began to pull back. I believe he liked her (or how she looked) but only wanted a temporary relationship during the show.
@sweetshelleyalwaysgotsomet62833 жыл бұрын
Say it again!!
@Frwill1263 жыл бұрын
Mario and Reva are still together but again, they weren’t one of the final couples lol
@patriciatoney2403 жыл бұрын
Right nothing comes from it. We are invested because it is entertainment and we as people hope for something positive. We want to see some black love and connections.
@vassieadams92193 жыл бұрын
Joel wasn't as mature and straightforward. Girl, be done with him for ever. He's not worth it.
@goldiepatton82483 жыл бұрын
Exactly I never cared or liked him like that
@prettypuffprincess3 жыл бұрын
THE REASON WHY HE SAID HE WOULD CHOOSE KYRA IS: MEN LOVE TO CHASE, THEY LOVE WOMEN WHO DONT PAY THEM ANY MIND! MEN DONT WANT GOOD WOMEN UNTIL THEY BECOME GOOD MEN!
@octaviabrown77583 жыл бұрын
I just said that! Men want what they can't have
@andrettawiggins28373 жыл бұрын
@@octaviabrown7758 Amen Amen and Amen
@kish28953 жыл бұрын
Vernisha didn't even have to tell this for me because I knew exactly what happened behind the scenes from the way Joelle acted on the reunion and toward the end of the show....He tried to embarrass her on the reunion by telling things she said out of anger in private conversations...and Stacey tried to make her look crazy too...I'm like stacey so they just pulled your name out of the box and said you did all of this and that...I hate people that play dumb when you confront them about some sneaky mess they did....they will try to make you look dumb by acting like they don't know what the hell is going on...she was definitely in Joelle face and asking about him and Verns relationship...and dont get me started on sneaky ass Amber...I been said she was the sneaky one in every man face behind the scenes
@theREALESTrealistUNPOPULAR3 жыл бұрын
The way he tried to embarrass her made me sick. I get what people are saying about v missing the signs and it happens but the way he treated her at that reunion was disgusting. It should have been everyone's deal breaker
@rubywoo_5.23 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Amber is full Of sneaky surprises this is just the beginning. I would've saw it thru if it had been me addressing Amber about trying to go out with Joel using his situation as an excuse to reach out smh Amber knows damn well she wouldn't have liked Vern to reach out to KG offering to take him out under any circumstances! And yea it's ok to admit you would slap a heaux if she got outta line Vern! Yes I said it and I'm standing on it 🤷🏽♀️ lol
@octaviabrown77583 жыл бұрын
He was gaslighting the shit out of her!
@cartierwhite_lasvegas3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad it didn't work out Vern will be good , Joel with his tired looking self
@deeperbeauty41473 жыл бұрын
So, true about all of it..I cant stand people like Staci...Amber is a sneaky one too...Joel wasnt worth her time or energy...
@hmblf6873 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that V ain't taking Joel back. He doesn't deserve her.
@klion39243 жыл бұрын
She did not bad mouth him
@TMA2NC3 жыл бұрын
Take him back? I thought it was established that he doesn’t want her. 🤷🏽♀️ He called her to apologize, not to get back together
@mogetit59993 жыл бұрын
Joel don’t want her. He got née internet fame he’s gooood! Lmao
@rosemartine86743 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t want her!
@chaw38583 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that wasn't an option for her because he doesn't want her at all
@yolandalcheek4623 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, we all saw this ending. It's no suprise🥰
@mogetit59993 жыл бұрын
That part
@rosemartine86743 жыл бұрын
V wanted too much too early
@lalaready3 жыл бұрын
@@rosemartine8674 SHE SAID THEY WENT AT THE SAME PACE !!
@invadingminds3 жыл бұрын
@@rosemartine8674 There's a difference between wanting too much and setting expectations. When you're in your 40s I'm assuming that you don't want to waste time. That's why some of these women are out here single and alone because they aren't dating with intention.
@phytgurloptimalhealth15275 күн бұрын
Right and the whole point was to find a long term love!@invadingminds
@ML-zj3ph3 жыл бұрын
Blame Joel Verneisha, not other women for his comments that he is single! Don’t put your energy into going at the women! Focus on the real person who caused the confusion! JOEL! 🤷🏾♀️
@taylorjones36423 жыл бұрын
Yes! Agree - it was HIS WORDS out of HIS MOUTH. Hell that’s some juicy news.. I can see why the ladies would spread the news
@Rhawn2463 жыл бұрын
@Margo Knox I disagree too. Vern spoke the truth and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@yeslia2010Godis3 жыл бұрын
Vern seems to be in denial about the type of man Joel is. If he stands you up, denies you in public and chooses someone else when asked who he would pick... Clearly he doesn't want to commit to you, he'll play all day but in the end it's just precious time wasted...
@zabrinamusic4643 жыл бұрын
All of joels decision are based on being a widower with young kids. He prayed his wife didnt approve he moved on. But he took dem drauls though. His deceased wife does not want him raising her kids with someone elses kids. He honors his wife and aint over her death just yet. It takes a very very very long time and the guilt is devastating.
@browniepeace65063 жыл бұрын
The first red flag 🚩 is his EX wife saying she sick with cancer selling her home and friend started a GoFundMe struggling and they still were going to divorce each other while she was dying. Any women that dates him should see this as flag 1.
@droosyg2523 жыл бұрын
@@browniepeace6506 where did you get that info? Someone else said they had been divorced two years when she died
@TarDan203 жыл бұрын
@@zabrinamusic464 They we’re already divorced several year prior to her passing. He is not a widower.
@pamelaprudhomme1403 жыл бұрын
Amen! Joel can only do what Vernisha allows Joel to do….hmmmm
@tangajTANG3 жыл бұрын
Joel was stand off on camera because he has other women he's wooing.
@shawannakennedy83133 жыл бұрын
Joel is most likely still going through the grieving process of being widowed, his wife Courtney was beautiful and died of lung cancer.Its ok to take it slow really, as this man has two right year old twins. We're all grown this is true, but let a man pursue you, women you're the prize! Watch and observe if "God" has sent him to you, trust hell be yours without any doubts or reservations! At the end of the day what God has for you is for you! If a relationship or "situationship" doesn't work, keep it moving! Besides, if a man hasn't put a ring on it, he's literally "free game", men just need time and opportunity! Ladies, move on God's terms and not your own and you'll be blessed abundantly! I liked Joel and Vernesha on the show, may God bless them both!
@tangajTANG3 жыл бұрын
@@shawannakennedy8313 Good point; however. we don't know if he and his wife were together before her death. I don't see him as the marrying kind; his personality is such that he would need a gentle yet assertive (not aggressive) woman to settle with when he is ready to settle. I suspect from his actions that mother of children may have gotten pregnant and he did the right thing.
@MyCrownstar3 жыл бұрын
He was divorced from his wife for 2 years before his wife passed. His wife divorced him because of his cheating. Not saying he wasn't grieving, but that is the whole story. On the reunion they mentioned his mother in law had passed. I imagine those are his kids grandmother and ex wife mom.I feel bad for the kids, they have gone through a lot.
@tangajTANG3 жыл бұрын
@@MyCrownstar He was forced into being a single dad. The man doesn't look like he was ever ready for marriage. That show was for recognition for his love of performing.
@carolwatts32803 жыл бұрын
@@shawannakennedy8313 I read somewhere they were divorced for 2 years when she passed.
@Bree4623 жыл бұрын
When a man's actions don't line up with his words that is a red flag. Men will do anything to get what they want, but when it's time to have a real conversation learn to listen to what they are saying . Don't read in between the lines and make up in your head what you want to hear.
@Tootsie7820093 жыл бұрын
I think V let too many red flags go. The moment he let her sit around and claim that she should’ve known plans had changed without notice, he should’ve needed a search party to find her. And to say “I need to check my phone more” as if he doesn’t have 2 preteens who are not constantly on their phone was BS. He found better plans and didn’t tell her. The fact that “territorial” kept coming up made me feel like he was talking negatively about her to his friends and family. He wasn’t looking for love. He was looking for a mother for his kids. Him loving your body was not the same as loving you. When I heard Dedrick say you still love him I was surprised because how, Sway? His communication was horrible. Unfortunately I was not surprised it didn’t work. The kisses on the show between you all look forced. Did y’all look good together? Yes. But it didn’t look like a match made in heaven
@arittaseide71913 жыл бұрын
Totally agree 👏
@mattisonjames56393 жыл бұрын
V is the one that said that she is territorial and she repeated it to his family. Their response was she’s way more into you than you into her and territorial.
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt3 жыл бұрын
She was way more into him, it was obvious.
@Tootsie7820093 жыл бұрын
@@mattisonjames5639 the sister said it first then V said “so am I”. Territorial isn’t an everyday word so the fact that the friends and the family were saying this after one meeting feels like Joel been running that mouth. He admitted on episode one that he was a motor mouth. But I do think V was more into him than he was into her which is why she was letting things go that should’ve been dealbreakers. Ain’t no way you should be arguing with somebody over communication issues and you’ve only known them for 2 months.
@Kris_is_a_Ten3 жыл бұрын
@@Tootsie782009 Joel was def running that mouth… he was surrounding himself with other women both fam but and others who are attracted to him and he was def tryna make Vern look thirsty
@mrsa69253 жыл бұрын
If she hadn’t slept with him, it wouldn’t have hurt her so bad. Ladies, it can be done; wait until marriage! I did and it’s totally worth it. Don’t underestimate the power of oxytocin and it’s effects on women. It’s easy to bounce when a guy’s words don’t align WITH his actions IF YOU AREN’T INTIMATE (in my humble opinion). 🤷🏾♀️
@michellebelk99513 жыл бұрын
AGREED.
@cocoxoxoxo78813 жыл бұрын
Girl women have waited to be married 1st & still get dogged out. Don't blame her for wanting to have sex with someone she had a connection with. These men need to grow up! Period point blank he led her on!!
@dh-kg5ig3 жыл бұрын
Wait until marriage if your a virgin
@michellebelk99513 жыл бұрын
@@dh-kg5ig And some become “born again’ virgins, it’s a decision that can be made at any time in life.🙏🏽❤️
@michellebelk99513 жыл бұрын
@@cocoxoxoxo7881 I don’t disagree with you…I just understand that the only person you can truly be accountable for is yourself.🙏🏽❤️
@Lvcharm3 жыл бұрын
She’s beautiful! I’ve been waiting to hear her side. I believe and understand her stance. I believe that Joel cared initially. However something turned him off. He said, it was her territorial tendencies. We also have to acknowledge his side. I would’ve loved to hear the lesson learned (personal accountability). Every obstacle in life is an opportunity for self growth.
@ZEBEEtheoriginal3 жыл бұрын
Lovely POV.
@jae_jae43123 жыл бұрын
Well said ❣️
@Seaney4eva3 жыл бұрын
I dont think it was her territorial tendencies as much as him not being accountable and emotionally maturity in handling a womans feelings but i see what u mean as far as sometimes you have to keep your emotions in check and allow to be pursued properly
@melanierichardson62743 жыл бұрын
Well Said!❤
@octaviabrown77583 жыл бұрын
I think the "territorial" excuse is a lame scapegoat for the simple fact he was not Ready to Love. When I saw him choose Kyra and start switching up, I said to myself "she must have gave him some". Imo she didn't make him work for her, she was too easy and I think he took advantage of it. Joel fine ass had no business on this show anyway, you can't make me believe he needs help finding love! I dont think he has good intentions for any woman right now because he knows he can charm them and smash, then on to the next🤷🏽♀️
@APTTMHYforever3 жыл бұрын
Ladies please make these men wait for at least a few months and see if they’re worthy. Like Kris said you can’t give and share that powerful sexual energy with just anyone And if you’re a Believer than definitely wait until marriage, your body belongs to God as his Holy temple do not desecrate your body
@2b_-rozzi3 жыл бұрын
Loved your comment! And trust THEY WILL WAIT if they are truly interested in you!
@Praznalways3 жыл бұрын
For real sis... I sure hope Jason and Liz will wait. You take sex out of the equation and get to know the person... Period!!
@lewis3k3 жыл бұрын
exactly. i feel like once he got what he wanted, he bounced
@msknich0le3 жыл бұрын
Wait until marriage. Too many will freely play the boyfriend and fiancé role but won’t make it to husband. The man for you will wait until your his wife. All those bodies aren’t cute or hygienic.
@Change2be13 жыл бұрын
do you think for one minute Amber is going to lay down with Kris.
@19GENESE133 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I will say it again. Dating a new orleans man is not for the faint of heart. His default setting is romantic and chivalrous. Truth be told, she should have left when he stood her up
@JM-ip1es3 жыл бұрын
Girl tell me about it. I’ve only dated two from NO and they don’t communicate, they flirt like crazy and excuse it as “southern hospitality “...:and they sleep around...... and low key they have some of the worst tempers when confronted with their bad behavior ( aka no accountability) 🤦🏽♀️
@TheMariemarie163 жыл бұрын
I've never dated one but I work in Louisiana alot and they do have a style and swag and accent thats very appealing and they know it. It makes them stand out especially when they will live in another place like Houston. So it would be hard for them to be faithful. And people from Louisiana in general can be pretty wild.
@KS-hi8vi3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY but if not then when he refused to apologize. But if not then when he chose to leave with Kyra. So many 🚩 🚩 on the play.
@NODE19753 жыл бұрын
Born and raised in NOLA. There is still only one or two NOLA men that I would even consider. I stopped dating them once I went away to college lol
@punkinpunkin65243 жыл бұрын
Agreed! She should have left Joel alone then. especially when he said she should have known that it was without him calling or texting!
@SimKaiSim3 жыл бұрын
That man doesn’t have a communication problem. He has a maturity problem. He played games with Vern, full stop. Vern did miss some signs but she was in it and her intentions were genuine. She just came upon a man whose intentions were not but he pretended that they were. I enjoy her candor and tell it like it is demeanor. She seems like a genuine person.
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
COMPLETE thuth!
@taniachara773 жыл бұрын
A mature woman would have caught on to the game…
@Firefly4713 жыл бұрын
200% true. She seems direct and honest.
@SimKaiSim3 жыл бұрын
@@taniachara77 hmmm I hear you but we all have moments, even the mature. If 95% of what he was saying and doing in her face was saying I’m all about you but then there is 5% of not so much, one might not act as quickly. He was telling her one thing and then saying something different to everyone but her is what it looks like. I still wish she would have walked away after he stood her up but seems like she was caught up in the whirlwind.
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
@@taniachara77 Yep, and she is far from mature.
@ToniaAlex133 жыл бұрын
This cast seems more messy than the last season. The ones who got voted off early is having drama with the ones who stayed later in the season
@mlovetwo67893 жыл бұрын
I think that happened because the women the men were most physically attracted to left earlier than the men wanted them to, frik and frak. Those men then continued to talk to them and more off camera even as the show went on. AJ for instance said he was interested in both and tried to save both. We know Ron also tried to save Chrys. Joel was clearly interested in Stacy. So I don’t totally understand these eliminations
@droosyg2523 жыл бұрын
@@mlovetwo6789 I can’t exactly remember who, but a cast member said that the show was ultimately deciding who was eliminated
@ketoandcouture3 жыл бұрын
This is why i feel like the show should be revamped so that nobody gets eliminated until much later on. give everybody a chance to really date the contestants rather than everyone scrambling to lock in on one person.
@_heyimbritt3 жыл бұрын
Yea they are airing more of the behind the scenes stuff. It does seem messy but maybe it always has been we just didn’t have all the cast jumping on lives and speaking their truth like this in the past scenes
@alandrieacoleman17793 жыл бұрын
@@droosyg252 I think that was Dedrick because on his interview he stated that "He was interested in a couple of other women on the show, yet production kept writing in scenes for he and Tressa." Production pushed a narrative at the expense of these people hearts and character.
@metrini3 жыл бұрын
No accountability from her on her part. They're both responsible for the outcome of their situationship, not just him
@shondah.21953 жыл бұрын
@Metrini Preach it. That's exactly what I heard as well, no accountability on her part. People who think like that want to deflect and make excuses when they get the same unwanted results over and over again. In my opinion, Vernisha needs to take a hard look in the mirror. When a man really wants you he will persistently pursue you. From the show, I got he showed initial interest in her, she was interested in him but she was the main aggressor in their relationship dynamic.
@tondataylor92503 жыл бұрын
Very good P.O.V.
@jayclarke87673 жыл бұрын
I agree. She sounds like a woman in her 20's. He only wanted sex from her and he got it. She gave too much to soon. She is like Alexis with the AJ situation.
@keishawilliams75463 жыл бұрын
Facts
@carolyneasley89803 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Joel saw her physical but ran from her emotional and Vern knows doggone well she was aggressive and forceful about them being a couple. Nothing about him said it's emotionally safe to sleep with this guy.
@lisel.1333 жыл бұрын
He revealed 2 things to everyone from jump. 1. He was a player by the way that he talked to all the women Baaaaaaby. 2. He wanted to hit that on sight Vern.....
@Jema19083 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt3 жыл бұрын
2nd point very obvious!!
@biancam23273 жыл бұрын
Right..all that slang at his age..F boy vibes.
@latishah13 жыл бұрын
@@biancam2327 lol and not to mention still trying to be a rapper
@kiopos47643 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point 👌 💯
@MrsBlack89983 жыл бұрын
I like her a lot. I'm concerned for her because of her thinking. She thinks like a 20 year old. She missed so many red flags yet she's still denying all of it. Unless she can accurately evaluate the situation it will happen again and I hate the thought of that. I don't know what has happened but I see a lot of women like her who are otherwise smart, beautiful and accomplished) but lack emotional intelligence in relationships. I pray for her to grow and have more self-awareness than what she currently displays. My heart really does hurt for her and women like her.
@veronicawilliams19573 жыл бұрын
I agree. Her thinking is way off. She is oblivious. She keeps saying Joel let people get in his head…like no. He is a full grown man. No one “got in his head”. He wasn’t feeling her like that because she got super attached.
@beemonique84663 жыл бұрын
It's not always about missing the red flags. Men need to held more accountable for their actions and their lack of. Men are supposed to lead. Joel was foul to play games with her, misleading her and blame it on his lack of communication. Meanwhile, women blame other women. I'm cutting every last one as soon as I see inconsistencies.
@maralinautube3 жыл бұрын
Girrrrllll... I saud the same thing... She moves like she's 19 or 20.
@MrsBlack89983 жыл бұрын
@@beemonique8466 He definitely is at fault too and he also acts like he's in his twenties and is dysfunctional in relationships. He's no prize but women have to do better at selecting men and being discerning. I say what I say about women because I want us to win and stop making the same mistakes.
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt3 жыл бұрын
ITA
@hawihawi92603 жыл бұрын
Joel admitted her body the first time he saw her, he got the cookies and left. He got her feelings going and left her high and dry.
@cocosheabuttarosemaryqueen92043 жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾and that what happened. She gave too much too soon
@alle1263 жыл бұрын
I agree he wanted to hit that but wife someone else
@jayclarke87673 жыл бұрын
Right!
@trellcarson3 жыл бұрын
She was brazy
@kekejefferson92193 жыл бұрын
Girl a mess, "He got the cookies and left"!😂🤣😂
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
He liked her thickness! OTHER than that, her personality is not on point for his liking.
@Xy-oo2sm3 жыл бұрын
He seem that heavy set women are not his type. He looked like he was gonna fall over when she hugged him.
@lalaready3 жыл бұрын
VERN HAS A BEUTIFUL PERSONALITY! WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE ?
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
@@Xy-oo2sm Lmao
@goldiepatton82483 жыл бұрын
Hope they use protection
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
@@goldiepatton8248 Hmmm. I hope so too.
@Rhenadhis3 жыл бұрын
I'm finally willing to open my mouth about the cast this season; see this will not be Liz, why? because she decided to go on a path to have a relationship with a man without the sex. If they go their separate ways it'll hurt but not like Vern is hurting. God isn't stupid when He asks us to abstain till marriage it is for our own good and to weed out the ones who just want to tap it and go like Joel. I pray for Vern's healing and for a heightened sense of discernment and wisdom in matters of the heart
@MrEnternally3 жыл бұрын
Well said but not many will understand
@ToOpen6seven3 жыл бұрын
AMEN!! If we would do EVERYTHING God tells us in His word we would be blessed, blessed and more blessed. People act like being abstinent is something new, this is what God has been telling up from the start. God created sex for us, God created us to have orgasms, yes God, so He knows the bounds (marriage) that sex should be engaged in.
@graceforalways64453 жыл бұрын
Truth!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@Rhenadhis3 жыл бұрын
@@ToOpen6seven ikr! My heart breaks at how many of us keep saying we love God etc (like Alexis and many others) but clearly do not live how He wants us to live. My heart especially broke for Vern when she said she is 40 and Joel is 43 and they have needs; she seems to be missing the point on why she is hurting this badly (it is this casual approach to sex)
@alexisdykes56343 жыл бұрын
You nailed it! 🎯🎯🎯
@5430mac3 жыл бұрын
I have learned and experienced that…There are wolves in sheep’s clothing. In life. Period. It never gets out dated. Some men and women have mastered it. It’s the same methodology but uses different strategies. Emotions encourage it. Wisdom pays attention but checks emotions. Wisdom focuses on red flags; does not ignore them; will not allow them to multiply, or duplicate; but deals with them. And does NOT allow for second chances to hit its mark. It’s a sad commentary, but it’s true. You teach people how to treat you.
@queenofpurpose73823 жыл бұрын
I'm a 30 year old woman, single and figuring out how I deserve to be treated. Wow, what a journey
@lovelylexx80443 жыл бұрын
So if he said all those things on the reunion, why would she allow him access to her after that? There’s nothing to FT & talk about. He’s trying to keep her close bc he knows he can get her when he wants.
@angeleyes33863 жыл бұрын
And @ 40 she still doesn’t get that. 🤔
@lasheikatucker45983 жыл бұрын
Right he would have nothing to say to me and no we don't need to go have lunch. If we done we done.
@yeslia2010Godis3 жыл бұрын
@@angeleyes3386 Yes denial at it's best
@rinakat57833 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And an apology in private shouldn’t mean anything to her after he embarrassed her with that “slap somebody” comment in public. The fact that she still entertained him after the reunion further proves that she learned nothing.
@lovelylexx80443 жыл бұрын
@@rinakat5783 yes!! Public embarrassment calls for a public apology!
@rarejourneys3 жыл бұрын
I believe everything she says and I never read her as insecure
@TarDan203 жыл бұрын
She may not be insecure but she definitely ignores big red flags that she should discern at her big age. A blind person could see Joel was not serious about her.
@trellcarson3 жыл бұрын
He couldn't be seen with her after the show.. smh. Thats why he was hanging with the other cast members..
@aran085043 жыл бұрын
How did Joel earn her undivided attention so quickly Vern should have continued to date other men esp. after hearing Joel chose Kyra.
@taylorduvernay97893 жыл бұрын
I think it was too late by that time. She should have expanded her options right at the beginning. She is a beautiful lady.
@godisgood73343 жыл бұрын
I'm like her. When I'm devoted to one person they have my undivided attention but they were on a dating show so .
@americanbeauty1713 жыл бұрын
True
@keiasha303 жыл бұрын
I remember her & Tressa both saying that most of the Men wanted kids & they aren't having anymore kids. She said, it was very few that were ok w/not having anymore kids.
@MallLaSoul2 жыл бұрын
Bingo, she never gave any man besides him any attention …not even a inch
@rozzier72933 жыл бұрын
Some men move fast in the beginning because their goal is to get you. Once you match their energy…they get scared and pull away. The key is to never match their energy in the beginning and keep yours low.
@theservinggirl3 жыл бұрын
Great advice!
@Xy-oo2sm3 жыл бұрын
That’s deep!
@omgimover40753 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I had to learn that the hard way unfortunately.
@taniachara773 жыл бұрын
They move fast to get the cookie.
@laradada40803 жыл бұрын
It's sad. Joel used you to get to the end. That's really all it was. He was showing interest with ulterior motives. I wish after the incident of him standing her up and then saying Kyra is who he would've chosen, she should have just self-eliminated.
@edwardmartins98393 жыл бұрын
She should have and Joel would have been next
@bw43483 жыл бұрын
But then she can't get to the end
@laradada40803 жыл бұрын
@@bw4348 Idk...I feel she really was looking for love and really liked Joel. I feel some of the others like AJ were just trying to get to the end.
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
Complete TRUTH!
@PYTGCJ13 жыл бұрын
What is at the end that they are trying to achieve so badly? I’d really like to know 🧐 is it a cash prize or something? I don’t understand these people 🙄
@annco98013 жыл бұрын
Joelle definitely led her on even from the beginning the way he pursued her and the energy he had towards her I can see why she was interested in it because of how he came at her at the very beginning
@Change2be13 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get someone he knew would be for him and then in the end he would still be there and after the show just go his way. I knew he was there for the show with all the "you heard" that was too much he was full of hisself someone told him he was cute.
@yeslia2010Godis3 жыл бұрын
When you dress in a way that leaves nothing to the imagination, most men will pursue you to get the goods and be done.. No commitment...
@Yespls8883 жыл бұрын
@@yeslia2010Godis trust me they'll do it no matter how you dress...if you let them. So let's stop putting so much on women to be some "perfect" creatures and hold disingenuous people accountable.
@lbrown11923 жыл бұрын
@@yeslia2010Godis exactly pickmeisha\desperado then they wonder what just happen. Real men like the chase\pursue\feminine.
@taniachara773 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t pursuing her, he was pursuing the cookie or staying in the show.
@msyolanda40453 жыл бұрын
Your title says it all and there goes the problem. She did not know him well enough to engage in physical intimacy on that level. He simply got what he wanted but had no real connection with her.
@estherbradley32183 жыл бұрын
I think Joel liked V but simply put, “wasn’t that much into her.” Once I heard he stood her up and didn’t follow up with a text or call I was done. I think he’s a “friendly” guy. I think he’s a “courteous” guy. Sometimes (I’m not saying this is the case with V) when a woman isn’t used to that type of treatment it can be misleading, ESPECIALLY if you cloud it with sex (GOOD SEX).
@taylorjones36423 жыл бұрын
Yes Tressa even confirmed this viewpoint… just because Joel text you goodnight doesn’t mean he likes you and just because y’all go out to lunch, talk on the phone late and have sex - doesn’t mean he wants to be in a committed relationship V thought it was more than what is was and her territorial ways scared him off fully
@sheilacarradine74033 жыл бұрын
Right
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt3 жыл бұрын
He was in lust with V but she couldn't see that.
@shay-shayhandlestolenbyyt3 жыл бұрын
@@taylorjones3642 facts
@ginaloveslife6323 жыл бұрын
Bam!
@thankfultoyahuah87093 жыл бұрын
Never give up the " goods" to early...sister...
@lasheikatucker45983 жыл бұрын
Right some men act a certain way until they get it then the real them comes out
@gbaggett45113 жыл бұрын
Boom!!! I believe that was the issue. She gave it up too quick and for him the thrill was gone. Women, WAIT! These men don't deserve your body till he puts a ring on it...after marriage, but we know how that goes in the secular world.
@Tiannatamale3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter when you give the “goods”. Men will act however, whenever. Regardless of when you give ups the goods
@missbell16343 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@MsChantae3 жыл бұрын
@@Tiannatamale tht part
@MrsLady41413 жыл бұрын
Romans 8:28 she dodged a bullet but the universe is going to open up for her in a way she will never imagine. Keep smiling. Keep staying positive. Someone will choose her and it will be more than she could hole for.
@marroonrider31933 жыл бұрын
she didn’t dodge s bullet. she had sex with him, unmarried and she’s still pressed so romans 8:28 wouldn’t apply to this because of 1 john 5:3 🌸🖤🙌🏾
@MrsLady41413 жыл бұрын
@@marroonrider3193 why do you say she is pressed?
@marroonrider31933 жыл бұрын
@@MrsLady4141 observation
@LifewithBreanna_3 жыл бұрын
God controls all things (holds all power). Remember, the universe is God's creation and it holds no power. The creation is not the same as the creator (neither are they interchangeable).
@heyjenny_shorts3 жыл бұрын
@@LifewithBreanna_ amen
@millynewson913 жыл бұрын
Not to be rude, but I never saw them as a couple. He is not a good communicator and did not know how to tell her the truth. He really wanted to end it at the ranch, but KG did not mind his business. He basically pushed Joel to apologize to Vern. Joel made all the ladies feel special. You may not be a mean girl, but you are loud and not polished. You remind me of my dad's side of the family. They are loud, loving and have the biggest heart. It is Joel's loss not yours.
@anthoninalouis69043 жыл бұрын
Who in this show wasn’t loud or was polished? It’s too easy to call black woken these words. Someone will love her exactly the way she is and I don’t think it has anything to do with the situation. The problem is, she’s not taking responsibility for not learning how to vet men and not recognizing the signs of when a man is interested in you. You can also tell that she’s hurt so her ego is showing a little so please try to choose your words when talking about a black woman.
@cocoxoxoxo78813 жыл бұрын
Loud & not polished??? When was she NOT polished & loud bc I didn't see that? She was classy & transparent the entire show. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@mirandaholley97973 жыл бұрын
@@cocoxoxoxo7881 It was not classy to say she wanted to be the first couple to wed and she did know joel. Class would have been to keep that to herself.The show is filmed within a month.
@anthoninalouis69043 жыл бұрын
@@mirandaholley9797 Many people get married after knowing each other a month, it doesn’t mean they’re not classy. When you know, you know! The goal of the show is to get married, there isn’t a couple from any season who got married so we can understand why she said that. It was to say that they will be the first to get to the marriage stage, compared to the other couples. She did not give a timeline of when it would happen. It could be in a month, in a year or more after the show… A lot of people shared very personal information during the show because it is what the show is about. At this point people are just looking for reasons to dislike her because everyone came to the show looking for marriage knowing that they would only have a month or so to get to know each other….
@Ladylovebug263 жыл бұрын
Unpolished and loud? You sound uneducated and low
@BmoreBetterNOW3 жыл бұрын
Stop sleeping with these grown boyzzzzz. Anyone can fake being a good person for a brief period of time.
@taniachara773 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@taylorjones36423 жыл бұрын
Love V, but where is her accountability in this?!!? Maybe to not excuse poor behavior ( like she did when Joel didn’t call her). Maybe to slow down … she needs to take some accountability
@bw43483 жыл бұрын
She'll keep making the same mistakes and choosing the same men without it.
@dr.100purrscent53 жыл бұрын
I see a LOT comments determined to make Verneisha the dummy in this situation, and SHE WAS NOT. She came on to a Publicly Broadcasted Dating Show willing and Ready to Love. Granted we all could use more discernment, but she had no reason to believe that Joel was going to completely flip the script until he did. Joel had more wherewithal as to where he was emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. He projected where wants to be, but not where he actually is. So how can she operate accordingly under false pretenses in a space that is meant to be safe? It's not okay for people to be fraudulent. I believe Joel truly cares for Vern, and felt himself becoming serious. Unfortunately, I don't think he was there to be serious. And that is fraudulent on his part. He B-Lined straight for Verneisha and marked his territory for the other males to see. She allowed it too, but she was also satisfied with the person he represented himself to be. His switch up came all of a sudden. So that's not cool on his part. I believe Joel is better than how he chooses to act, but people only can go by what you show. He knew he was wrong and took more than his fair share of her energy. That is wrong and it is wrong for people trying to make her feel stupid for being real from day one. He could have handle the situation better by communicating clearly or even not being on the show. It's not a game show, and it's really not a typical competition. It's about finding a match not a false start. Joel knew he wasn't ready AT ALL. So he needs to do what's necessary to get ready if that's the set he claiming. Verneisha is a real woman, she goes hard in the paint for what she feels is right for her. Had Joel been fully honest I doubt she would have invested so deeply. Vern is smart and successful, not stupid. She was open to the process and came through on her end. Joel just did not show up as promised. Joel lost a real one and that is sad for him. Vern will find the man that is right for her. Joel was not a waste, they both have an opportunity to learn and self reflect and I am sure what was good and special will find its place to heal the disappointment. Wishing them both the best. Their hearts matched but not their minds. Joel wasn't honest about his.
@Courie11e3 жыл бұрын
Vern was Literally Ready to Love. The fact that she Shedded tears, it showed that she's hurt. I'm starting to lose interest on this show. It's no longer real, because folks are on there to boost their EGO.
@jae_jae43123 жыл бұрын
AMEN ❣️❣️❣️
@bonitapandora3 жыл бұрын
It’s not about her being a dummy but moving way too fast. In six weeks this man left her for hours on a date, they already had prior disagreements about his lack of communication, he chose another woman and didn’t even tell her and after all that she still had sex with him. All of this within six weeks is way too fast even for grown people. They both deserve to find love and Vern is indeed ready but she really has to take her time which is what a lot of people are saying.
@shangra733 жыл бұрын
Right!!!
@mrsa69253 жыл бұрын
I’m rooting for V and totally want her to win. However, there are a lot of men out there who will love bomb her. Joel is one of many. I hope she might adjust her approach in light of her experience with Joel.
@BiggWillz3 жыл бұрын
Tell it V….. Dude was full of it! You deserve better. Move on, don’t let him reject you twice!!!
@droosyg2523 жыл бұрын
Too late, he already did
@Living_Fabuless3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for V her crying made me upset with Joel. but, let be honest There were some red flags that she ignored.
@SunsFlowerCreations3 жыл бұрын
She's so pretty
@peacefreedom49303 жыл бұрын
Joel stood her up for a dinner date. Then he wasn’t apologetic or remorseful. That tells you he didn’t want her or care about her feelings. Instead of being done with him after that ( red flag ) she questioned him about it. He literally told her when he stood her up she should have realized his plans changed. Uh, HELLO! No accountability. He flipped it on her like she’s the problem for not reading his mind. He didn’t have any consideration for her. Yet, she’s on this live trying to tell us she matched his energy. No ma’am. No you did not. You should have pulled back from Joel then. If Joel wasn’t doing everything in his power to show you how sorry he was for leaving you waiting that should have been the end of him. You accepted that terrible treatment and seemed confused about it. You know what that tells men and everyone who knows the game? It tells us that you look beautiful on the outside but your self esteem isn’t as solid as you let on. You’ll tolerate being mistreated. Joel tested the boundaries and you didn’t hold yours. Men respond to action not being fussed at. You fussing at him didn’t teach him anything. You still gave him access. You are either in denial or you haven’t learned these things yet. I’m thinking you haven’t learned because when a man isn’t treating you right you lean in. I watched you do it. I watched you do it at the ranch and when he stood you up. Joel still slept in you room at the ranch even after standing you up and trying to send you home ( picked Kyra ). So, let’s not pretend that you weren’t leaning in and giving Joel privileges he didn’t earn or deserve. You don’t have any business putting a man who is mistreating you, before yourself. You are responsible for holding your own boundaries to protect yourself and teach people how to treat you. You threw all of that out the window and let him tap dance all on you, your body, and your feelings. But you want us to believe the energy was mutual. It wasn’t. You gave your power over to him trying to get and keep him and he wasn’t trustworthy. But you aren’t just a victim. You are his co-conspirator. Without your cooperation he would not have been able to pull it off. You had the signs and ignored them. Accept accountability and don’t do this again. Edit: I’m not siding with Joel. I’m trying to tell help you. Men have been playing these games since before we were born and they will be playing them when we are dead. I teach my daughter the game so she isn’t blind sided. It seems like you are still naive. Men take advantage of women who have damaged self esteem. Those women don’t have appropriate boundaries or will compromise their boundaries. You need to work on yourself so you can be immune to “ a man playing on a woman’s emotions “. When you know your worth you won’t tolerate mistreatment. Joel would have been in your rear view or treating you right.
@ML-zj3ph3 жыл бұрын
Peace Free, we’ll said! 👏🏾👏🏾 You are 100% right and you are doing a service for all BW out in the dating world! Thank you for being Frank and honest! We all need to face the truth and stop allowing our men to make us look like fools and disrespect us! Whether women know it our not we have the power intellectually to set standards and boundaries for men! Men will only do to you what you allow and overlook! Love yourself first! Stop begging men or competing for them against other women! Stop getting angry at the women out there and put your anger where it belongs with the man who is supposed to be with you ! BW if you are tired of being mistreated by BM, start a new trend and open you minds to dating outside the community and race or nationalities ! Date other men of color, Mexicans, Puerto Rican, Indian, middle eastern, Asian, Guyanese ect It’s time to find quality men who will honor you, treat you like a queen and take care of their wives and children! Work together to build a legacy also! Stop settling for BS game players like AJ , David and Joel! This show is actually educating us to not waste time with losers! Most of the women should have self eliminated, most of these men are not ready to settle down! I don’t understand why the women stay so long when their person of interest is sent home or no longer shows interest in them?!! Why because we believe in struggle love and need to change our mindset that we were brainwashed for generations to believe we should hang in there and deal with BS! Verneisha is a beautiful woman! I hope she looks in the mirror and admits that didn’t want to acknowledge the red flags and be honest with herself! Move differently with the next dude if she excepts a long term commitment and marriage! She is a good person and have a good heart! Stop wasting time with no good ni--gas! Life is too short! 🙏🏾❤️
@mrsa69253 жыл бұрын
Preach! I feel like some women want to always blame the guy - we have no direct control over how the guy behaves. We can, however, control our boundaries and how much of ourselves we give him access to. A man will only do to you what you allow him to. V talks about being grown but, there were a few red flags that she mentions herself though, she STILL doesn’t call them red flags. I’m rooting for her though; I wouldn’t want her to be still making the same moves at 60 years of age and complaining about the guy being duplicitous when he bounces.
@Teachingtea3 жыл бұрын
🎯
@omgimover40753 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@mrsa69253 жыл бұрын
I just remembered; didn’t she say here that her energy matched his throughout? Well, if that’s true, why did he pump the brakes on her sleeping over at his, when she asked to? I love, love, LOVE, V and I’m NOT a fan of Joel. However, that was another clear red flag. He’ll sleep with you but, he won’t bring you home to meet his kids?! It shows that Joel knew he didn’t want her to meet his kids, who knows maybe it was just too soon in his opinion BUT it shows that they weren’t matching each other’s energies or on the same page. He may be many things but, at least he got that part right; he didn’t involve his kids. Unfortunately, V couldn’t discern what it meant.
@amyjay94033 жыл бұрын
I agree with Vern. Joel wasn't really about having a long-lasting relationship.
@Heyu7her33 жыл бұрын
Most of them aren't tho. I think he still needs to heal regarding his divorce with his ex-wife and her death. And then if he's not going to be able to be in a committed relationship, then he needs to be honest with himself about that. His friends and family peeped it.
@reggaemomma19573 жыл бұрын
Nope because he's too far out there. On a whole different level.
@Praznalways3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken this season was only 6-8 weeks, that is not enough time to get to know someone. Likes, dislikes, favorites, strengths,weaknesses, etc. Ain't no way I'm sleeping with anyone AND thinking we are exclusive... Welp, like she said, they grown grown, guess neither of them were very clear in what the expectation is/was to having a relationship/situationship 🤷🏾♂️
@Change2be13 жыл бұрын
Vern came off desperate for a man and maybe she thought sleeping with him would seal the deal.
@pumpkinspice2133 жыл бұрын
Thats what we see. I am sure it was longer than that. Plus the editing is structure to make it seem different than what actually happened
@teecharee60693 жыл бұрын
There's no time limit on when you know you've found the one. There's a lot of older couples that meet and get married within weeks and have 40+ years of marriage. The problem with society is people don't value love and marriage anymore. It's rare to find 2 people who are truly seeking the same thing. V clearly came for the purpose of finding a connection and someone to build with, Joel wasn't in that place he's the average man and V is rare..just my opinion! But it's disheartening to see they didn't make it because they were the couple everyone was rooting for.
@neteruprakriti86103 жыл бұрын
@@Change2be1 it's ready to love, coupledom. Its fast pace. They knew the goal. Joel is FOUL
@Yespls8883 жыл бұрын
I became exclusive with my husband when we were dating after 4 weeks...13 years ago. I know everyone is different and I DEF advocate getting to know people etc. But there aren't as many "wrong" and "rights" when it comes to life and love.
@alexisfuller7313 жыл бұрын
I definitely believe V was ready to slap fire from Stacey and Chris-all that I’m 40 and too old to be fighting over a man was not flying with me 😂 V was definitely more into him than he was into her
@tchrhistry3 жыл бұрын
Vern does not understand men. Maybe she did not grew up around men. Joel communicated through his actions. Most men are not good verbal communicators because they are not women. Men communicate through their actions. Men also don’t like to be controlled. Even little boys act up when they are being controlled. I feel like the change occurred when she started being controlling. If she always dated multiple men why did she change it for Joel? I’m confused about that.
@Yespls8883 жыл бұрын
Naw I'm going to need grown men to know how to VERBALLY communicate. You don't have to be a woman to do that. We completely let men off too easy and treat them like kids. What do we think they "goo goo ga ga" in the board room too, or as entrepreneurs? Lol Please. It's 2021, I'll let someone my father's age get away with that excuse maybe. But someone Joel's age that's in the dating game is doing to have to step up his communication and emotional intelligence. However I DO agree you have to put more weight on actions then words. And hd had a few actions that should have gotten him the boot.
@Yespls8883 жыл бұрын
Because I'm getting a feeling that he made it seem like they were exclusive. She even said that he said exclusive but not in a relationship lol which sounds like nonsense. He's just not ready for a relationship and she didn't catch the signs unfortunately.
@tchrhistry3 жыл бұрын
@@Yespls888 wow he said exclusive but not in a relationship!!! WTH!! I agree that is total nonsense and a play on words. One can not be exclusively dating. Exclusive means relationship moving towards marriage. That’s what Vern wanted which may explain why she ignored the red flags.
@Xy-oo2sm3 жыл бұрын
Communication is verbal and non-verbal... she didn’t understand that he was definitely communicating...it was just non-verbal.
@racqueenus3 жыл бұрын
'I AM THE SPOTLIGHT!' That part ☝️
@TMA2NC3 жыл бұрын
What do you think she meant by that? She turns heads when she walks in a room because she’s voluptuous and dresses…how she dresses. Getting lustful attention is pretty easy and not something to brag about, IMO.
@kenlove19333 жыл бұрын
@@TMA2NC I concur!!!! You're on point!
@thankfultoyahuah87093 жыл бұрын
@@TMA2NC #straightup...
@aprilstone313 жыл бұрын
She definitely said a lot of people on the show were intimate and some even with multiple people🤔 I wouldn't be surprised.
@sunnymarie20603 жыл бұрын
Time stamp
@jacks40093 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@PrincessRell093 жыл бұрын
Who tho 😂👀
@corinnejulien78383 жыл бұрын
The tea indeed.. I need Ron with all his messiness and receipts to spill it all....now that's good tv..hahaa
@ashleetyler4293 жыл бұрын
Seems like the men on these shows are NEVER READY TO LOVE
@sonyaakins73463 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@amab18533 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@iamladyblack11883 жыл бұрын
Verniesha is beautiful! I love her! She deserves! And I pray she finds her love!
@kristlehill38983 жыл бұрын
Celebacy keeps you safe in the dating process. Many people judged Liz however it allows you to see folks without emotions involved. Its protection. V is real and direct, not everyone can handle that. I felt like he got cold feet and he was not ready for a relationship. He liked the attention. She is beautiful and strong but he could not continue to fluff her with his charm and not be real.
@mostdefmodest Жыл бұрын
Abstinence before marriage also
@Thesmoothiebabe3 жыл бұрын
I hate this narrative that Vern was clingy and doing too much. Like aint the last episode supposed to be the couples deciding they want commitment? Like to date officially? How is that too much?? I hate that Vern gets all the blame and everyone just says she should have saw the signs. Yes, that would have been cool if she did but when you're wrapped up in someone literally SHOWING and TELLING you they want you then it's time to put the blame on the liar and the gaslighter for faking it. The actions and words matched up for her (not us bc we didnt see EVERYTHING) during filming and behind the scenes. This dating culture is so toxic. Bc everyone is like she likes him more than he likes her. Yall so insistent on playing games and trying to avoid rejection that you're blaming someone for actually being genuine and honest with how they feel. We as a society shouldn't even be allowed to date until we go to therapy.
@dr.100purrscent53 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!!!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@CHOCOCAT84443 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@feliciafrazier71803 жыл бұрын
Joel was in it for the game not for love, he admitted his communication skills wasn't the best. There were some signs (red flags) that V should have made a mental note of so that she could have moved differently.
@KS-hi8vi3 жыл бұрын
Seems V made a lot of mistakes most women do. She seems loyal to a fault. I think a lot of us saw so many 🚩 🚩 with Joel during the Show. But for whatever reason Joel changed his mind. He can do that. Hopefully they both find someone that is right for them. As women we need to hold men accountable for the relationship issues and not other women. I never heard anyone talking about V. People on the Cast were doing promotionals together. This Cast is so divided. Everybody was talking about each other. Deidrick hangs with V and he doesn’t like Stacy, Tressa or Chriss. Seems like she didn’t want people to date Joel but that’s what they were supposed to do.
@davinodum89663 жыл бұрын
Possessive
@Jstwatching3 жыл бұрын
Poor Vern. Going forward, hopefully she knows that a man will do as much “relationship things” as you let him without a commitment if is not assertive. You have to have them clearly say you are (exclusively) a couple just so you won’t get it twisted. It’s really easy to fall into that trap.
@consciousanfesiashapsnikof86883 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Totally agree. Verneashia's comment was so high school-ish. She's a grown woman with daughters. She behaved reckless with her heart. She should've never claimed him until they both agreed to be exclusive.
@Grownwisdom7173 жыл бұрын
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 So we have all made our mistakes, but how she was talking about turning heads didn't sit right. I dont really understand the I'm grown part of having sex. When we are grown we should be more responsible. When I found out the show was taped in 3-4 weeks 😳.
@lewis3k3 жыл бұрын
you are a beautiful women. just take the situation with you and Joel as a blessing in guise . god got something better in store for you. i wish you nothing but the best.
@1Candysweets3 жыл бұрын
Though I thought she was being too easy I believe her. Joel is a sneaky snake. He played with her and it wasn't right. I blame him. Nothing about V seems crazy so I don't think she would just make this up. She seems like a genuine person who was ready to love.
@alandrieacoleman17793 жыл бұрын
It helps me to understand why his wife left him before she passed away which is crazy that he show the show as an opportunity to claim that "Heb was a widow" instead of saying I'm a divorced man and my children's mother recently just died; also, this show gave him exposure to help his 43yr old rap career. 🤔😂
@cleopatrajones25563 жыл бұрын
I saw this on ig. She makes it clear about the entire situation. Joel was clearly not Ready to Love. Grown ass F boi. I love Vern. As a fellow aquarius. I understand why she spoke her speech. She is Not gonna be Lied on PeriodT. 😍
@ashahaynes6573 жыл бұрын
Oh is Verneisha a Aqua??Maybe thats why I like her so much...bein 1 myself I so understand where she comin from
@brushedbyadiva10063 жыл бұрын
As an Aquarian, we do move differently. We are not clingy and love independence. I understand everything she is saying because I am a person who don't like fake. We honor relationships and expect the same. Joel was covert in this situation.
@melicali83643 жыл бұрын
Makes sense I looked through the comments to see if she was an Aquarius
@ashahaynes6573 жыл бұрын
@@brushedbyadiva1006 Yesss, all the above.We really are no non sense kinda ppl.Very direct n clear on our dealings.I dont liked the way this played out....
@obvust65883 жыл бұрын
@@ashahaynes657 No nonsense, but ignores MULTIPLE red flags and continued to interact with him after he embarrassed her on national TV. OK 👌
@Jazzylady4203 жыл бұрын
I THINK JOEL LET PEOPLE GET IN HIS HEAD AND PLAY ON HIS INSECURITIES. HE WAS DEFINITELY INTO VERNEASHIA AND DIDN'T WANT TO LET HER GO WHEN SHE WAS ALMOST DONE WITH HIM WHEN SHE HEARD HE CHOSE KYRA WHEN ASKED BY TOMMY ON THE SHOW WHO HE WOULD LEAVE WITH. I THINK HE WAS AFRAID OF HIS FEELINGS AND AFRAID OF VERNEASHIA'S FEELINGS. POINT BLANK HE'S DEFINITELY NOT READY TO LOVE!!!
@eallen19963 жыл бұрын
V it's his loss. You are a strong black woman just like I am. I don't play.
@myalistjourney47423 жыл бұрын
Strong Black women are single like you
@cco71743 жыл бұрын
@@myalistjourney4742 🤣🤣🤣😱
@cco71743 жыл бұрын
She plays though. How many different baby fathers does she have? At some point we have to learn and take accountability. As articulate as she sounds am not sure how she had was able to sit around with Joel. Well like she said she had needs …. He got his and he checked out.
@JAllen-tx3di3 жыл бұрын
What she hast to realize is we don’t need the examples because all they do is tell us that Joel is interested in you and he does want you, but that doesn’t mean that he wants a committed relationship with healthy boundaries. However because he is Showing interest she uses that to tell herself that they’re together. She says her self that he is showing her yes but she has yet to say what he has told her. And that’s what she has to come to terms with. They are not on the same page we know he wants you we know he’s interested but y’all are wanting two different things. It is interesting because I would think she would have learned that she needs the communication and I just go by how someone is acting because of course he’s going to be affectionate with you and talk to you he likes you but she is someone such as myself who hast to set boundaries because we are serious but everyone isn’t. I would have ignored him while I was in Miami. She either has to leave him alone cold turkey for good or leave him alone until he’s ready to be SERIOUS and tell her....because Him being nice to you and having sex with you and calling you and FaceTime in you every day does not mean that he is serious about a relationship. Know the difference.
@JM-ip1es3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@KS-hi8vi3 жыл бұрын
Exactly she said what he Sis not what he said. V is not so different than many women. If he hung with her all the time the night he stood her up he was filming and she wasn’t there. She didn’t want him to date other people during the process. Territorial she was and he wasn’t a good communicator.
@fiveyearstoforty3133 жыл бұрын
Yup, grown folks gotta know that. A man's actions speak louder than his word. This breakup broke my heart. The answer is right there. Joel needs to do more and she needs to say less. Going back to dating how you always did means getting the results you always got. Truly wished they had worked out
@carolyneasley89803 жыл бұрын
Your first mistake, matching a man's energy, now you're competing. You're not jealous??? come on Vern it happens🤷. You are a pretty woman, but turning heads is easy, staying on his mind is another thing entirely. And for someone that's not bothered, you're doing a lot of explaining. Wish you well sis.❤
@loxsochic3 жыл бұрын
It's the "for someone that's not bothered, you're doing a lot of explaining..." for me. That right there. Stop saying it doesn't affect you, when it clearly does. It's ok to say it too. When a soul tie is created between two people that have a heart, it is hard to not feel hurt when things don't work out.
@mariahg.68113 жыл бұрын
This is the comment I have been waiting to read. Well stated!
@beatricebrown39583 жыл бұрын
I felt that to my core!! Are you on his mind???
@mattisonjames56393 жыл бұрын
The more she talks the more she contradicts herself. Standing you up and saying he chose Kyra were your outs. V you said you would be the first couple from RTL to get married. Wth? Always available after he showed you he didn’t want you. Telling who slept with each other isn’t your business or place. When you got aggressive and in his face in the kitchen that was too much. Enough ranting V.
@awillis2443 жыл бұрын
True and I think this is the second silly video. This is ghetto behave. I had to stop listening to her mess but enjoying the comments.
@mattisonjames56393 жыл бұрын
@@awillis244 the comments be hilarious.❤️
@mlovetwo67893 жыл бұрын
AJ is definitely the one rumored to sleep with multiple cast members. but that's his business. he's not ranting and raving and no one is ranting or raving about him. V must let it goooo
@taylorjones36423 жыл бұрын
Thank you! She got played now go lay down.
@ptate523 жыл бұрын
I’d have been out if he said “Ya heard?” one more time😂😂
@keisharowland61763 жыл бұрын
Love your personality Ms.Vern. Thanks for sharing your story. Love how you handled this experience.
@jackmeoff91163 жыл бұрын
She should have saved the cookie!! He hit it & split!!
@lizafulcher79173 жыл бұрын
Non communication is a clear sign of he's not into you
@shawnigirl4053 жыл бұрын
I told my husband that when Vern saw how Joel was trying to make her seem desperate or thirsty she was going to be pissed. I knew it. Because would have upset me as well she is not hurting for attention periodt!!!!
@godisgood73343 жыл бұрын
Joel was wrong, but V is too intense. TOO intense. I'm getting a headache listening to her. Beautiful woman, but needs to calm down.
@loxsochic3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Coco-cq4vf3 жыл бұрын
Let this be your first and last time getting on social media displaying your emotions. I understand what you’re saying and agree with most of it, but people will take this and run with it thinking you mad because things didn’t work out between you and Joel. Steve Harvey said it best, if a man wants you he will do everything to let you know, but if he doesn’t you will also know it! Be okay with being okay, do you and don’t be doing all this venting. It didn’t work out just move on your a beautiful strong black woman.
@branbranshenanigans16933 жыл бұрын
She is a beautiful woman geesh 😩😍😍😍
@teejack81083 жыл бұрын
Hey Verneasha! You were my fav this season. I hope you find real love!
@tawana2inspire3 жыл бұрын
The Sad part is that his children needs a good stable mother figure and he is only thinking about himself. Out here on the streets acting like a 21 yr old. Old @$$ trying to start a rap career.
@keishawilliams75463 жыл бұрын
He said in a interview it’s a hobby not a career. He started doing it to cope with the death of his wife.
@virginiaattakumah86033 жыл бұрын
@@keishawilliams7546 they were divorced yrs before she passed away
@keishawilliams75463 жыл бұрын
@@virginiaattakumah8603 yeah i meant ex wife. Even though they were divorced it’s still painful
@davidsoncharles20853 жыл бұрын
She did like joel more than he was into her. If she can't see that, she is blind.
@fjohnjustsaying95693 жыл бұрын
🤔 So Vern didn't notice that Joel sent time with her only when it pertain to the TV show. 🚩👩🏽🦯
@loxsochic3 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@NoRemoteTV3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣 those emoji u used got me dead😆
@williamcooper39023 жыл бұрын
This sister wasted her time. I’m glad she’s the bigger person and even though Joel hurt her, she still maintaining all the attributes that makes her the person she is.
@racqueenus3 жыл бұрын
Joel desperately needs a therapist.
@Heyu7her33 жыл бұрын
Yes. Sir, deal with your divorce and your ex-wife's death.
@racqueenus3 жыл бұрын
@@Heyu7her3 That part ☝️
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
If her standards were as high as LIZ, he would still been with her now, or he would not have persued her and wasted her/his time after he got what he wanted out of her. She is grown with needs, but real dumb with it!
@monetthood27703 жыл бұрын
True, grown women already know, if you didn't know, it's for a reason
@naturallysexy3 жыл бұрын
@@monetthood2770 Yes indeed!
@taylorduvernay97893 жыл бұрын
She actually did say Joel was interested in Liz. My interpretation is that, he realized Liz's standards were too high for him. These men are not loyal.
@Firefly4713 жыл бұрын
@@taylorduvernay9789 yes, I caught that too
@yvettegrier36433 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Honesty about how we are moving is ALWAYS the best and only policy. Dating multiples is the BEST way until you both are ready!
@shakeyajohnson37033 жыл бұрын
Joel never liked her…..he liked her body. He was attracted to her physically but I don’t think he ever respected her. It’s a difference that a lot of women miss. You can turn heads but you can’t stay on his mind because they’re multiple women that can turn heads🤷🏾♀️….
@laj41863 жыл бұрын
Immature silly males ask for your time and energy and then flip it on you that you wanted too much too soon. I've seen this so many times. They are confused and do not know who they are when they move that way. Verneisha is sure of who she is and what she wants and authentically went with the flow of the experience. Best to you Verneisha.
@kish28953 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%...I'm glad someone has some sense in these comments...these women in these comments act like a man has never pulled the wool over their eyes even being older 🙄...Joelle switched up and started playing games from what she spoke about in this video and from what we saw toward the end of the show
@keepsit100atalltime93 жыл бұрын
I will always believe there's something innately unsettling about A LOT of BM. It's like they just cannot do right.
@taniachara773 жыл бұрын
They flip after sex, hold on to your cookies.
@Firefly4713 жыл бұрын
@@kish2895 I agree. Some people are being so judgemental as if they have never been there. Not saying there were no red flags but its clear as day that Vernisha was being straight forward and Joel was not
@laj41863 жыл бұрын
@@taniachara77 Lil Wayne said it best
@michellebelk99513 жыл бұрын
Vern, by her own admission, is territorial/possessive, and anyone can see she is jealous (even at the reunion)…..If she did indeed say she would slap someone, that is aggressive. I like her and I understand her…I just pray she sees her areas of needed growth, instead of only focusing on the wrongs of Joel.🙏🏽❤️
@KS-hi8vi3 жыл бұрын
She didn’t deny she said she wld slap someone; I believe she said it. I hope she looks at her behavior. There is nothing unique or rare about her actions. She was jealous and insecure and she has to blame herself for that. Listen to what a man TELLS you not what he’s doing. Joel doesn’t want that aggression around his kids. How V handles conflict is aggressive and that’s uncomfortable for Joel. Every relationship is going to have conflict but how you handle it is key. V likes to be aggressive to deter it from happening again but that doesn’t work for Joel.
@michellebelk99513 жыл бұрын
@@KS-hi8vi Agreed.
@tenmusicpage3 жыл бұрын
U took the words out my mouth! She is very much all that obviously he liked her but she became a stress to him because of her aggressiveness dictating what he can or cannot do lol her whole convo here is very condescending. When he claimed Kyra she should of moved on that showed how desperate she was! He lost interest but only forced his self to try to work it out because of the pressure of being the bad guy!
@lorealjane91923 жыл бұрын
She gave it up too soon
@shawannakennedy83133 жыл бұрын
You can turn heads V, but only a real man puts a ring on it. Trust God, plain in simple!
@tangajTANG3 жыл бұрын
Girl don't pat yourself too hard on the back. Producers kept you with Joel for a storyline since you were so READY to love. Joel, I feel stayed for his rap career, alledgely. He made faces to kiss you on Truth or Dare. Vanesha was the conductor and he followed. When he didn't call her for hours and stood her up told me he was not that she was incidental. Miss V saw a.crack in a door and kept pushing to open that door. Joel is not ready for marriage and I don't feel he was ready for his first marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if circumstances placed him at the altar. BOTTOMLINE TO VANESHA; NO matter what you are saying, HE WAS NOT THAT MUCH INTO YOU. You had to ask him many times to kiss you.
@zeezee9903 жыл бұрын
Vern is GORGEOUS 😍😍😍 and I agree with everything she said 💯