Versus Strikezone: Vodo-Siosk Baas Vs. Qui-Gon Jinn (The Subversive Traditionalists)

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Jensaarai One

Jensaarai One

7 жыл бұрын

Vodo-Siosk Baas, one of the great combat instructors of the old Jedi Order, and Qui-Gon Jinn, maverick Jedi swordmaster. Renowned servants of the Light, yet instrumental in the rise of the most terrifying Darksiders of their respective eras. If these two noted figures in galactic history were to meet in single combat, who would win?

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@SpaceMonke99
@SpaceMonke99 7 жыл бұрын
A Jensaarai video feels like an event to me. Of all the versus You Tubers you are my favourite.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
I try to bring snacks and drinks as I watch in case of the TCW rant. Those parts I savor greatly. Edit: Thanks for the love Jensaaria1!
@trejohnson4760
@trejohnson4760 5 жыл бұрын
@@robgeorge4581 I agree, I hate all the usless unnecessary retcons. Disney ans Lucus Arts have but destroyed Star Wars
@bakionigeri6414
@bakionigeri6414 Жыл бұрын
Hes the best. He would be my pick for battle-master🗡
@seanrea550
@seanrea550 7 жыл бұрын
with hearing about the 7 forms repeatedly i have begun to develop an understanding about what they functionally bring when taught in full and succession. form one provides the fundamentals of blade work and guidance through the force. form 2 develops the methods of form one into a more focused offensive form. form 3 does the same as form 2 but with defensive forms. form 4 brings in advanced mobility. form 5 develops active counters. form 6 develops external methods into active combat, form 7 develops all the others into a complete and unique form and encourages a release into the force based on what you have developed your techniques to. with this understanding i feel that it is the ultimate ideal to learn all of the forms to develop a style that is unique to the user.
@SuperWindsage
@SuperWindsage 7 жыл бұрын
its not a thing most speak of but nearly every jedi is their own unique fighter just a lot of them have some of the same tricks because drawing from the same source. but I do like your perspective on it and even with things that are known well put em to words and all. so yeah!
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
well done
@teenidle1993
@teenidle1993 7 жыл бұрын
Shaak Ti vs ROTS Anakin
@saleucamisystem9407
@saleucamisystem9407 7 жыл бұрын
Shaak Ti would win.
@TheNuisanceBird
@TheNuisanceBird 6 жыл бұрын
ROTS Anakin tears her apart. He's stronger, faster, has more raw power and better showings in the Force as well as completely outclassing Ti as a duelist. There's nothing Ti has that Anakin can't deal with.
@tiredjediknight3110
@tiredjediknight3110 5 жыл бұрын
Anakin all the way.
@alexalexalex92
@alexalexalex92 7 жыл бұрын
How would you have felt about a Plagueis-style book about Dooku and Sifo-Dyas, covering from their first days as Jedi Knights until Sifo's death? Could be a great addition to the new canon, and might retcon or even recanonize the backstories of people like Qui-Gon and Jango Fett, and characters like Komari Vosa, Tyvokka, Plagueis himself, and the Yinchorr.
@iceomistar4302
@iceomistar4302 5 жыл бұрын
Well they tried with Master and Apprentice, it was ok, I did not like Dooku's portrayal.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 Жыл бұрын
Jen doesn't care for Disney Canon nor like it. I'm not saying this because of hate. I like TCW (only for nostalgia purposes at this point and because I grew up with the timeframe of that show and during the PT) and I can fully understand and agree with why Jen despises it. In retrospect nowadays, even I don't like TCW as much anymore. Jen made valid points about certain characters' portrayals such as grievous. Some of the story plotlines were clearly made rushed and even filoni and the other directors at one point I believe stated that they didn't even think the show would make it past the first season.
@sonic8005
@sonic8005 7 жыл бұрын
I.... gotta say I did not expect you to use clips from Rogue One in the slightest but glad that you used the clips in question as those were effectively proper demonstrations of what you were speaking of.
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 7 жыл бұрын
Please do Versus Series Strikezone: The Maverick Rancors (Exar Kun vs Darth Krayt)
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 7 жыл бұрын
Dooku vs Krayt? Two respected members of the Jedi Order who became infamous Sith Lords in galactic history.
@JLense
@JLense 7 жыл бұрын
Logan Smith krayt would destroy dooku.
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 7 жыл бұрын
Lord Draken Hmm... Yeah, now that I think about it, I don't think that would be an interesting of a match-up. My bad.
@DropkickNation
@DropkickNation 7 жыл бұрын
Destroy is overacting. But he probably would win nonetheless. I'd rather see Vader vs. Krayt. Or Exar Kun.
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Purolover Check out Sci-Fi Soup's video of Vader vs. Krayt. It's pretty damn good.
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 7 жыл бұрын
All right, how about Dooku vs Malak?
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure whether or not this is coincidence or intentional, but in Legends Qui-Gon's lightsaber instructor praised him as one of the greatest lightsaber fighters he had ever trained over a 400 year period. This Jedi's name was never mentioned (as far as I'm aware). Now in a recent canon novel the elderly Jedi Master Tera Sinube was at one point a lightsaber to a young Qui-Gon. Could the unnamed legends Jedi Master and Tera Sinube be one and the same I wonder? Another subtle way of bringing an element of Legends into the new canon
@ChroniclesofTheKwan
@ChroniclesofTheKwan 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Watching your versus matches keep me inspired and motivated.
@JojoushiPWI
@JojoushiPWI 7 жыл бұрын
Hell..yes. My Thursday afternoon got better with this upload! Thanks Jen!
@edwaiwood2416
@edwaiwood2416 7 жыл бұрын
I laughed when I saw kung fu panda, not because it was funny but because I never expected it to be in your caliber of videos.
@driftingswordsmanzer
@driftingswordsmanzer 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always man! Keep it up. I knew vodo would come out on top.
@abrakadabra6364
@abrakadabra6364 7 жыл бұрын
amazing work as always~
@xxedgy_outsiderxx9978
@xxedgy_outsiderxx9978 7 жыл бұрын
gotta love Donnie yens fight in rogue one
@xRadinox
@xRadinox 7 жыл бұрын
Very Good Match Up!!! Enjoyed every second of it... I Hope to see more Vodo in the future :) and more Quinlan Voss woudn't hurt xD
@no1BowserJrfan
@no1BowserJrfan 7 жыл бұрын
I think a big advantage to Baas and a disadvantage to Jinn I didn't hear you mention is the gap in experience. Baas is over 300 years old according to your video, and Qui-Gon is in his 60s. I think the gap in age speaks for itself. I suppose a point you could argue is that we don't know (or at least I don't know) when Baas started his service in the order nor do I know when Qui-Gon started, but I can give a pretty good guess that it doesn't really matter considering the gap in age. Either way, it was an entertaining video!
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
See I know these are overused (and you know it), but that doesn't diminish the quality and passion you put into them for your matchups. Also, very interesting to see your evolution of analysis of the same 2 characters. Full thoughts at end of watching as always.
@JakeraxForever
@JakeraxForever 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Jen! You picked 2 incredibly underrated characters. The movie clips were a nice touch too. I wish Qui-gon would've won but it was a fair assessment. Great job!
@babyfacekillah1323
@babyfacekillah1323 7 жыл бұрын
I'm early! Excellent fight man
@redleaderantilles1263
@redleaderantilles1263 7 жыл бұрын
Nice, always good to see Baas used more.
@kingorange7739
@kingorange7739 7 жыл бұрын
Nice vid once again bro. I was wondering if you can do (Darth Malak vs Count Dooku) or (Darth Revan vs Obi Wan Kenobi). Thanks and keep up the good work.
@justmutantjed
@justmutantjed 7 жыл бұрын
So. Would you say that Master Vodo handled Qui-Gon like a... *Puts on sunglasses* ... Baas? *YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!*
@jermeypatterson5613
@jermeypatterson5613 7 жыл бұрын
Hey jensaaria been loving your series for a long time and I know how you feel about tcw characters but I would love if you did one featuring asoka tano
@SheevPalpatine
@SheevPalpatine 7 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Ahsoka from season one of The Clone Wars versus Qui-Gon Jinn. I'll bet Qui-Gon will lose that one, too. I'm honestly surprised you didn't give it to Old Ben in his fight against Qui-Gon.
@b0rgishm0rg
@b0rgishm0rg 7 жыл бұрын
Each one of these vids I come in wanting my fave to win but they always lose, and at the end I'm like, "Yea well that makes sense..."
@samuelstepp2890
@samuelstepp2890 7 жыл бұрын
Hello. I've a suggestion for a versus video. Most likely as a versus short. Jedi Battlemaster Raskta Lu vs. Sith Blademaster Kas'im. Both great masters of the lightsaber both held there own against Darth Bane. Both fell largely due to extenuating circumstances: Kas'im from the temple falling on him and Raskta Lu from Zannah stabbing her in the back (literally). My initial thought is that Raskta Lu would win, but I am curious what your thoughts would be. And especially on the why the victor would be the victor. Sorry for the long comment. Love your videos. May the Force be with you.
@control4040
@control4040 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video, This is one of those we wouldn't have guessed. I was watching a video from the Hobbit and saw your comment, when the dwarf was blocking the arrows. I couldn't believe it. Anyway who do you think would win Oppo Rancisis or Pong krell
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
Rancisis. Malacia wrecks Krell
@control4040
@control4040 7 жыл бұрын
Joshua Kei I guess
@noahswordlord8935
@noahswordlord8935 7 жыл бұрын
hi jensaarai1 how are you doing good to see a new verse video
@janix5929
@janix5929 7 жыл бұрын
Just a little thought that came up in my head and I can not shake it. Ferus Olin vs Kanan Jaruus Ferus Olin: A Jedi Padawan who survived Order 66 and became a Jedi Outcast. After years of being a Recluse, Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi set him on a journey against the empire where He was able to defeat the 1st Grand Inquisitor. Kanan Jarrus: A Jedi Padawan who survived Order 66 and became a Jedi Outcast. During his escapades with the Ghost Crew he managed to take out the 1st Grand Inquisitor.
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai hates Rebels more than he hates TCW, so no
@leseratte3546
@leseratte3546 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakei8925 you don't know he used the Clone wars characters so there is a Chance that he is gonna use one from Rebels as well.
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@leseratte3546 No, he hates Rebels more than TCW and that's final lol
@BattlestarZenobia
@BattlestarZenobia 7 жыл бұрын
A wooden stick, who does he think he is, Gandalf?
@loyalcompanion2104
@loyalcompanion2104 7 жыл бұрын
+jensaarai1 will you ever use darth cadeus in a vs video? Only evan has uses him so far
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen 7 жыл бұрын
Question; I keep hearing that Luke Skywalker said Darth Caedus was more powerful then Darth Vader, but I can’t find the source of that quote anywhere. Please help me!
@chandlersleziak6416
@chandlersleziak6416 6 жыл бұрын
You should do Inquisitor Jarec vs Count Dooku next Jensaarai1. 😎
@tiredjediknight3110
@tiredjediknight3110 5 жыл бұрын
Dooku.
@JediAcolyte94
@JediAcolyte94 7 жыл бұрын
+Jensaarai1Excellent video and keep up the good work. Any chance you or the other council members do one of these matchups? Kento Marek or Roan Shryne vs. Dass Jennir Darth Malak vs. Ulic Qel-Droma Zayne Carrick vs. Ferus Olin Xanatos vs. Kueller Cilghal vs. Barris Offee(Legends) Dooku vs. Darth Wryylok III Even Piell(Legends) vs. Rahm Kota Mara Jade vs. Shaak Ti Mara Jade vs. Depa Billaba(Legends) Darth Krayt vs. Exar Kun Bardan Jusik vs. Zekk Aurra Sing(Legends) vs. Asaj Ventress(TCW+DD) Darth Malgus vs. Plo Koon Darth Nihl vs. Darth Maul(Legends) Saba Sebatyne vs. Oppo Rancisis Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Rahm Kota Quinlan Vos vs. Kyp Durron Kyp Durron vs. Qui-Gon Jinn Quinlan Vos vs. Cade Skywalker Darth Malgus vs. Ulic Qel-Droma
@therishimazefanatic1439
@therishimazefanatic1439 7 жыл бұрын
JediAcolyte22 these matches are brilliant but you can't use Saba because her lightsaber form has not been stated neither her force powers.
@josiahjenksisawesome
@josiahjenksisawesome 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai, this will sound like a crazy idea, but you should do a match with Darth Ferb. I'd like to see you analyze his fighting style and make it work. Please do it, :)
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
I looked it up and if it's Ferb from Phineas and Ferb star wars (a show I watch since my bro is 10) I'm going to say Jen isn't going to take you seriously
@josiahjenksisawesome
@josiahjenksisawesome 7 жыл бұрын
I know, I'd just like to watch him try.
@KainusGulch
@KainusGulch 7 жыл бұрын
Very much leverage.....
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
so much leverage...
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician 7 жыл бұрын
KainusGulch wait, wait, wait! You mean leverage!? I totally lost.
@MasonNoThumbs
@MasonNoThumbs 7 жыл бұрын
Please make one of these matchups Anakin VS Revan Mace Windu VS Obi Wan Kenobi. They are great matchups but almost no one has done them
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
Revan Mace Please don't suggest these ever again
@wallywest9257
@wallywest9257 7 жыл бұрын
have u ever done a Mace Windu video??
@deusvult6900
@deusvult6900 7 жыл бұрын
Please do Valkorion vs. Sidious (canon _or_ EU)
@goblinninja7741
@goblinninja7741 7 жыл бұрын
If you have the chance to pick a Sith or Jedi to train you who would you pick? Revan or Plagueis for me.
@2TCHOLMES
@2TCHOLMES 7 жыл бұрын
How about this for a short, at least? Darth Sidious vs Darth Krayt, the two most powerful Sith Lords in galactic history; if they met in single combat, who would win?
@Blueballthornton
@Blueballthornton 7 жыл бұрын
Will you ever work with Darth Maul again?
@PopThatOrder66
@PopThatOrder66 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai, have you considered Darth Krayt vs. Darth Sidious?
@nedoubles6377
@nedoubles6377 7 жыл бұрын
I was reading "Path of Destruction" again this weekend and noticed that Darth Bane while in combat with the Dark Lord Kas'im noted that the Dark Lord of the Brotherhood of Darkness was possibly the greatest blademaster ever. What do think of Darth Bane's assessment and do you agree with his analysis. If you do agree with Darth Bane who do you feel would be a worthy opponent? Mace Windu, Anakin Skywalker; perhaps even the true Sith'ari himself, Darth Sidius (my personal opinion)? Would like to hear you thoughts on this. Thank you and keep up the great work.
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai1 I agree that he was one of the best of his era, the problem is I found the brotherhood of darkness to be quite pathetic in general, even the leaders, compare to the ones in the era came before or after. So I don't think he is that good
@nedoubles6377
@nedoubles6377 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai1 Kas'im, a master of all forms of lightsaber combat and a great strategist ( Showing false weakness to his opponent(s) to build their confidence only to utterly crush it after revealing his true mastery of the blade leaving his opponent hopeless). Who are the masters who come to mind when considering a worthy challenge for this particular Dark Lord?
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai1 not really convinved on that since he never really shown anything that would put him that high esteen.He is a good swordfighter for sure but outside of a few pre- prepaired tricks he didn't do much. And in terms of force his only feat that worthwhile is his defence of TK. Same with the fact that Bane considered his as a potential apprentice, as Bane had quite a small (and shallow) pool to chose from. Kas'sim is just not that impressive in anything, he is morr like the cin drallig of BoD. and here comes my problem with the BoD. their phylosophy and their trainings, which are greatly hampers their members. first of all their phylosophy revolves around the idea of everyone is equal.Of course it doesn't prevent them to scheme and backstab eachother but it prevents those open, overt powerplays that characterized the Sith empire. Which, in my opinion, indirectly encouraged the other sith to strive for greater and greater power.No sith wants to fall behind their competition, after all. The BoD suppressing that, putting a tighter leash on their members neck. the other is their training.First off, the BoD actively discouraged the study of the ancient sith viewing their way as inferior. and 2 the students just doesn't have that good training in general.I mean really! the way to become a dark lord in BoD is to graduate on korriban after a few years at best.Thus teachers like kas doesn't have much pressure on them to keep their skill that high as most of their students will be low level, who they can overcome easily if had to. Compare that to the Sith empire.Yeah sure you have examples like teneb kell, but he is still more of an exception than a rule. The BoD relied on quantity over quality, they gave a quick training to their students and sent them on the battlefield. their strength came from their numbers.
@piotrkurczewski6266
@piotrkurczewski6266 4 жыл бұрын
with all due respect for jensarai i dont believe that force sever aplies only to darksiders ,meetra surik wasnt a dark sider yet she still managed to break her conection to the force efectively i propose Meetra surik vs darth Tyranus ,the Exile versus the fallen prodigy
@animalknight6017
@animalknight6017 7 жыл бұрын
Please do an obi wan video with him fighting either Exar kun or Galen merick
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
I second that
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
Kun Kenobi
@treiwilson9445
@treiwilson9445 7 жыл бұрын
Jinn should have learned forms 1, 2, 3, and 6 so he doesn't tire himself out and get in over his head. As he did with maul.
@Storyman09
@Storyman09 6 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon just does not have much luck against staff wielders. Not saying he can't handle or adapt to staff based weapons, just that he has bad luck against them.
@theyoutubeacolyte969
@theyoutubeacolyte969 7 жыл бұрын
Marks Ragnos vs Darth Vitiate/Valkorion?
@IAmMyOwnApprentice
@IAmMyOwnApprentice 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought Qui-Gonn was a Consular and not a Guardian?
@Nihilism110
@Nihilism110 7 жыл бұрын
FUCKIN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jseyes
@jseyes 7 жыл бұрын
Are you still under a copyright strike? Because your still doing the Strikezone videos?
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 5 жыл бұрын
“It was never his body that failed him” Yeah, it was his fuckin stick. Bring a stick to a lightsaber fight get cut down. Whether it’s “force imbued” or not....... it’s still a STICK. Also, Qui-Gon was a lot physically bigger & stronger than Exar Kun ever was. Baas got torn up by him every time pretty much all due to his strength busting through his guard. Qui-Gon would do the same thing to him. He’d break right through his defense and shatter that force-imbued stick just like Kun did. Jinn for the win.
@raphaelhanna8345
@raphaelhanna8345 7 жыл бұрын
im surprised that jensaarai would use kung fu panda scenes in his videos i thought he was only a fan of more serious style entertainment
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, it isn't. they all have senses of humor, including said Revanant energy vampire. apparently you can't send a dead person to heaven/hell/spirit world but jumping on him and sending yourself there while hugging him sends too.
@macattackk
@macattackk 7 жыл бұрын
Kung Fu Panda is see? Are you a fan of that film trilogy Jen? Because even though I know it's meant for younger audiences, I freking love it! Especially the first two, the third one was a bit meh. Still, I find them both fun and intriguing at the same time, and in terms of themes and metaphysical powers, I feel like a lot of parallels can be drawn with Star Wars.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Jensarrai1 Okay, so I do agree with the verdict, but I feel this is a mismatch. On a positive note, great about clarification of your sever force theory. I picked that fact up beforehand from the same source (I was looking into its viability against Darth Sion and Nihilus. I believe that if you sever force them, they should die). As to why this is a mismatch, consider that in the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook, Vodo is considered to be the Mace Windu of his era. I assume this means, that Vodo's skill level as a duelist+Force power=Windu which is well outside Jinn's reach. While it is true their force abilities would play as factors not decisive advantages, Baas's Battle mind does maintain force weapon's viability and he could probably yank Jinn's lightsaber out of his hand with force pull (especially considering Jinn's rather meh def.). Your dueling analysis was spot on but I think Baas's greater skill provides him with more of an advantage then you give him credit for. Like always, the quality of your analysis was great, I just feel that this was not really a balanced contest.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Jensaarai1 Its fine that you don't have an answer. Just wanted to present my thoughts like I typically do. I do agree that this is most likely a pure lightsaber duel, but when Baas breaks out his active force abilities, I just think its a factor that further plays into his win.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
Hmm...a Jensarrai1 versus match on the Star Wars 40th anniversary? Coincidence? I think not!
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 7 жыл бұрын
Jolee Bindo vs. Ben Kenobi AKA Duel of the Hermits? HK-47 vs Nom Anor? T3-M4 vs R2-D2? Cade Skywalker vs Quinlan Vos? Aayla Secura vs Darth Talon?
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
Ben Cade obliterates Vos
@Jander833
@Jander833 7 жыл бұрын
Mate, I have a German exam tomorrow, this is outright cruel.
@howardcain4644
@howardcain4644 7 жыл бұрын
can you do a vs. video darth bane or raven?
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
Jen hates Revan. I think he's allergic to Revan. maybe he'll do Bane. IDK
@howardcain4644
@howardcain4644 7 жыл бұрын
k. thanks for the answer.
@loyalcompanion2104
@loyalcompanion2104 7 жыл бұрын
He doesnt hate the character revan, he hates the book
@cammykins5813
@cammykins5813 7 жыл бұрын
Darth Malgus vs Lord Scourge(EW version). The False Emporer vs the Former Wrath.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Irish 1775 Malgus vs EW Scourge is good. Vader vs EW Scourge is way better.
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
its spelled 'Emperor'
@papadragon695
@papadragon695 7 жыл бұрын
Dude do Kaox Krul vs Darth Sion
@papadragon695
@papadragon695 7 жыл бұрын
The Mad Marauders
@howardcain4644
@howardcain4644 7 жыл бұрын
can you please use darth sidious in a vs. video please.
@CHARLIEGAMER55
@CHARLIEGAMER55 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do Qui Gon Jin prime vs Anikan Skywalker in prime????
@tiredjediknight3110
@tiredjediknight3110 5 жыл бұрын
100% Anakin
@leseratte3546
@leseratte3546 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah as much, as I like Qui gon jinn Anakin is better in every regard. He's much stronger and younger, he is the better lightsaber duellist and he uses the force much better than Qui gon. Altough Jinn is still my favorite Star wars character.
@zaluk1041
@zaluk1041 7 жыл бұрын
Good, well thought out video. I do have a few disagreements though. You mention Jinn has difficulty fighting duel bladed wielders, using his brief fight with Aurra Sing as an example. However, I think that was more due to Aurra whipping out the blade from nowhere, rather than Jinn having difficulty to adapt. Almost immediately after, she confesses that she got more than she bargained for. Also, in one of the Jedi Apprentice books Jinn fights Xanatos while Xanatos was wielding two blades. Jinn did absolutely fine, starting to gain an edge before the fight was left inconclusive. Furthermore, in Star Wars: Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan - Last Stand on Ord Mantell, Qui-Gon fights a group of people wielding training blades. While they weren't lightsabers, it still showcases an ability to deal with multiple blades effectively. As for the verdict, I understand the conclusion. However, I personally think Jinn is a bit more skilled. The reason being is Jinn's parity with Maul. In the Episode 1 Journal, Jinn fights Maul on Tatooine as we seen in the movie, however it explores the duel in a more detailed way. It depicts Jinn actually gaining an early advantage, only losing it at the end due to getting tired. This is explainable though, since Jinn had just been running in the desert for a considerable time, otherwise Jinn shows excellent stamina. When Obi-Wan retells the story of Jinn's brief duel with Maul, Obi-Wan's interpretation was that Jinn actually bested Maul. Either way, it's clear they're pretty close imo. I also think Jinn would break Baas's staff relatively quickly. As you mentioned, he was primarily a strength based duelist, with great physical strength. He was able to match Maul's strength head on, the same guy who tore through a Wampa's torso while not using force augmentation. Overall, good, enjoyable video. I'm a huge Qui-Gon fan so seeing more Qui-Gon is always a +. Finally, what do you think of Plo Koon vs Tholme?
@Wright805
@Wright805 7 жыл бұрын
You're entitled to your opinion but personally I highly doubt Jinn could break Baas's staff regardless of how strong he is. Remember Baas imbues his staff with the Force and as Yoda said "a powerful ally it is." Strength alone won't cut it. Jensaarai1 pointed out that it only breaks when he loses concentration and so can't maintain the imbuing. As long as he keeps his focus even the likes of Vader or Malgus wouldn't be able to break it.
@devontaelafleur3841
@devontaelafleur3841 5 жыл бұрын
I don't remember where he ever admitted that
@sinistavoicez
@sinistavoicez 7 жыл бұрын
well alrighty then
@brenntantor1634
@brenntantor1634 7 жыл бұрын
Your theory on Force Suppression only used against dark siders seems to be false. I just came accross the bio of Darth Cognus. Her powers seemed to be most affective against foes with little to no dark side affinity. The nature of the power seems to differ from user to user.
@brenntantor1634
@brenntantor1634 7 жыл бұрын
My bad.
@jkr1025
@jkr1025 7 жыл бұрын
Quinlen Voss vs Anakin Skywalker. While I think that the match up is perhaps not the fairest it would be interesting.
@tiredjediknight3110
@tiredjediknight3110 5 жыл бұрын
Anakin every time.
@charlesdolan3600
@charlesdolan3600 6 жыл бұрын
Well presented. Though I would say Vodo-Siosk Baas at his zenith would totally overpower and beat Jinn. Baas was a weapons master, teaching the one of the greatest dark sider Exar Kun. I would even say Baas could beat Jinn and Kenobi both with relative ease.
@nicobruin8618
@nicobruin8618 7 жыл бұрын
Krayt vs Sidious?
@tiredjediknight3110
@tiredjediknight3110 5 жыл бұрын
Sidious.
@justsomerandomguyonline2784
@justsomerandomguyonline2784 7 жыл бұрын
jensaarai1 i know you hate TCW but you always use the lightsaber duels in your video. Do you think the lightsaber duels in TCW were a great representation of the seven forms of lightsaber combat??
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
yes. Because it literally doesn't take effort to study character's fighting styles by reading the comics or the 2003 CW or the films. Dooku is shown to be a fencer, thus its easy to pick out his style. Anakin is a heavy handed fighter, so his style can be easily interpreted
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
7:18 What comic is this ?
@warmcrunch3829
@warmcrunch3829 7 жыл бұрын
NEW FORCECAST PLZ?!
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
REVIEW SEASON 3 PLZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@justsomerandomguyonline2784
@justsomerandomguyonline2784 7 жыл бұрын
Season 3 of rebels?????
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, what's wrong with that?
@wildbynature5
@wildbynature5 6 жыл бұрын
Vodo-Siosk Baas Vs Naga Sadow or Ludo Kresh
@zacharyo3824
@zacharyo3824 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that people underestimate qui-gon jinns stamina because of his duel with darthmaul but I must say that Zabraks, darth mauls species are noted for having better stamina than humans so even if jinn was in his prime he would still fall in stamina to darth maul who is in his early 20s so his stamina would be the greatest in the galaxy.
@MusicFan752
@MusicFan752 2 жыл бұрын
In a way yes and in a way no. Qui gon definitely contended well for as long as he did along with what he could dish out and take in return, but he still has a limit and compared to other combatants it does become a weakness. That said I would be curious to see a vs video of him against kao cen darach from the first swtor trailer.
@user-tl1yx1xh6i
@user-tl1yx1xh6i 7 жыл бұрын
Plo Koon vs. Rahm Kota Exar Kun and Ulic Cel Droma vs. Darth Vader and Starkiller
@genghiskhan4460
@genghiskhan4460 7 жыл бұрын
Freedon Nadd vs count dooku or anyone fitting.
@KumaoftheForest
@KumaoftheForest 3 жыл бұрын
Kasim vs Vodo-siosk Baas
@Scrilian
@Scrilian 7 жыл бұрын
Where's the annual TCW rant? :'(
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
General Grievous vs Anakin Skywalker
@nasiquedayes4805
@nasiquedayes4805 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I Think Vodo Used A Masterful And Clever Hybrid Of Form 3 Soresu , Form 4 Ataru And Form 6 Niman
@philipchurch8772
@philipchurch8772 7 жыл бұрын
The Force is strong with you.
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
indeed
@xBiggs
@xBiggs 7 жыл бұрын
Why do you believe that sever force is only usable against darksiders? Didn't the Jedi masters attempt to sever the Exiles connection to the force? I don't recall the Exile being a darksider.
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician 7 жыл бұрын
Biggs Well they thought she was a darksider due to their obliviousness of Nihilus. And to be honest I don't think it would've worked.
@xBiggs
@xBiggs 7 жыл бұрын
There is also the example of Darth Caedus and Ben Skywalker though...
@xBiggs
@xBiggs 7 жыл бұрын
The Exile also severed her own connection to the force after Malachor too
@thordgensec
@thordgensec 4 жыл бұрын
Xanatos vs Lord Hoth
@howardcain4644
@howardcain4644 7 жыл бұрын
why do people dislike/hate form 6?
@xRadinox
@xRadinox 5 жыл бұрын
What about Vodo against Maul?
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 2 жыл бұрын
Vodo
@darthmetum3324
@darthmetum3324 7 жыл бұрын
jacen (jedi) vs jaina solo
@SolarDragon007
@SolarDragon007 7 жыл бұрын
Darth Maul versus Assajj Ventress.
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 7 жыл бұрын
SolarDragon007 Maul wins, through and through. Ventress is good, but Maul, be it pre-TPM, TCW, or Rebels, will beat her.
@SolarDragon007
@SolarDragon007 7 жыл бұрын
Furious Sherman Why do you say that?
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 7 жыл бұрын
SolarDragon007 Because Ventress was just a mid-level Force user and a decent duelist. Maul was trained to be the best from childhood by Sidious. Ventress, while skilled enough to outplay Luminara Unduli, was never able to best Anakin or Obi-Wan in combat and only very briefly fought Mace Windu before escaping. Maul, meanwhile, only ever lost three fights in his time onscreen, two of them largely in part to plot-induced overconfidence. As well, Maul showed tactical skill in TCW and Rebels that we haven't seen out of Ventress.
@SolarDragon007
@SolarDragon007 7 жыл бұрын
Furious Sherman How about Windu vs Maul?
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 7 жыл бұрын
SolarDragon007 Windu easily. He's one of the top 5 most powerful Jedi ever and one of the top 5 duelists ever.
@DaneFalco
@DaneFalco 7 жыл бұрын
Darth Wyrrloc III vs Darth Plaguis! Sorcerer vs Sorcerer
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
Plague really isn't a sorcerer. He's the Victor Frankenstein of Star Wars. More mad scientist than anything else.
@kiadisandwich1836
@kiadisandwich1836 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Maida Plagueis kills him in seconds.
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
mhhh. don't know enough about any of the 2 to know who wins. interesting to see sorcerer vs scientist
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Kei I'm going with plague on this one. His power in the force is massive compared to Wyrrloc and they are probably equal to near equal duelists. Wrrylock's sorcery is great, but I believe Plague has knowledge in it and can defend against it (I think...)
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, probably true. though i don't know much about these 2 what i do know suggests Plagueis for the win
@andrewstokes6623
@andrewstokes6623 7 жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Malgus? I have my own verdict on the matchup but before we start, I am a very big Anakin fanboy, but I wouldn't say he crushes Malgus, not by a long shot. Physicality = Anakin, Malgus is about 60 by the sacking of the Jedi temple and has a respirator which Anakin can easily exploit, they have comparable strength but Anakin is faster, they both have very high pain thresh holds as well so that is moot. Use of the force = Equals, Anakin has more raw power yes and their variety with their power is comparable. Malgus is a very well rounded force user, male storm, push, pull, choke, lightning, saber throw, cheating death and I wouldn't put it past him that he can use basic mind tricks and all that, Anakin has comparable variety in his powers having all of that minus male storm and lightning, but he makes up for it with force scream, being able to override the will of the force itself, he could subdue both entities of the light AND dark sides of the force and he's able to move really heavy objects with ease(using this to also rag doll certain individuals namely Assaj Ventress and Barris Offee)like the separatist dreadnought in the comics he was able to redirect with no issue so they're equals in my eyes. Duelling skills = Anakin, I feel that his showings are more impressive than Malgus as a pure lightsaber duelist as he bested THE master of makashi for his time in Count Dooku, his mentors hold him as only below Yoda and Mace Windu, he was duelling said makashi master as a fucking padawan and held out for longer than his master, bested the infamous Assaj Ventress as a bloody padawan although she was talented with killing Jedi masters and held her own against Mace bloody Windu and he was credited as being a natural warrior. Malgus isn't particularly bad but I feel his kills come from outlasting his adversaries or having them piss him off just before he engaged them increasing his strength, Satele and Cao Sen Darach = Vindican and Darach dying(the former gave Malgus a power boost as he wanted vengeance for his master), Satele Shan = Malgus won the fight, but he didn't kill her and he only won the duel when he used his force abilities on her when she was off guard and his most famous kill Ven Sallow = he did kill the Jedi, but moments prior he did witness his wife get harmed which fuelled his passion to kill the Jedi that did the deed and nearly killed both of them as Sallow almost stabbed him near the end of their duel so Malgus's victories in said duels is considerable, but for the reasons I have given his skills as a duelist have been largely over-exaggerated I feel. Weaponry = Anakin, though this doesn't really matter all too much tbh but the extra blades on Malgus's lightsaber are cool looking but have no real purpose in battle, Anakin's weapon of choice is standard but because he has given it a different option for length of the blade, it could be helpful in pushing Malgus back. The verdict: Let's say this is more comparable to Malgus's duel with Sallow, but with Anakin in place of Sallow, I feel it would start with Malgus on the attack but Anakin would be able to hold off his assault and when Malgus attempts to kick Anakin in the face, Anakin grabs his foot with his right hand pushing him back into a pillar with the force, Malgus would be staggered momentarily as the 2 engage in a blade lock with Anakin on the offensive, Malgus would try taunting Anakin however this effort would backfire as Anakin broke off the lock and sent him flying backwards into a whole group of Sith with him in the temple and he was met with a huge pillar coming his way. This kills his whole group but not him as he evaded the pillar and immediately got back up to engage Skywalker, but the duel would swiftly end while they are charging one another as Malgus would have his blade above his head, but Anakin would be running low with his blue blade at his side while sliding underneath Malgus and splitting him in half, vertically. And thus, I declare Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one of the force the victor.
@JamesBlackman13
@JamesBlackman13 7 жыл бұрын
Connor, are you struggling financially? If so I'll gladly eat my words. But unless that is the case, chill out with the ads bro. I'm totally cool with a pre-roll and a mid-video ad but this is far too many.
@tannerlowrie8084
@tannerlowrie8084 7 жыл бұрын
Anya Kuro vs Aryn Leneer
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 7 жыл бұрын
Ooh, that's a good one. But I gotta go with Aryn as she lived in a time of where the Sith were legion and fighting against one of them was just a regular Thursday for the Jedi of that era.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Tanner Lowrie As always you give very interesting matchups. I'm siding with Anya due to her crazy force abilities. Teleportation, phase through objects, and can influence plant life? That is pretty broken overall and I have no idea how Aryn would get around it. Dueling wise, they are both pretty similar due to being pure form 4 specialists. I assume their force power is equal or near equal. So Kuro due to broke force abilities.
@tannerlowrie8084
@tannerlowrie8084 7 жыл бұрын
Rob George Thank you very much, I do try. Particularly for Jensaari because I know he's a big fan of strange matchups. I too side with Kuro, as both fought the most battle hardened (not necessarily most powerful) Sith Lords of their respective eras. Kuro was easily capable of defending against Vader, and I believe she got some hits in if I'm not mistaken. Meanwhile, Leneer was only able to contend with Malgus when she was empowered by her rage, and thus was using an entirely different style than her own.
@tannerlowrie8084
@tannerlowrie8084 7 жыл бұрын
Rob George While I don't usually like a>b>c logic, I believe that since the context for their final duels wasn't really important, it's applicable here.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Tanner Lowrie Isn't Malgus the most powerful Sith Lord of his era (assume Vitiate/Valk or Revan isn't included)? I'm quite sure Kuro got in a hit or two against Vader. You are right Leneer required force rage to contend with Malgus. So Leneer is physically superior and her style is similar to Kuro, but she is more skilled, and has hax on her side. As for my own matchup to recommend to you, its a team battle. Yoda and Mace Windu vs Odan Urr and Vodo Bass. However, Urr and Yoda don't have lightsabers. Modern Yoda and Mace vs Ancient Yoda and Mace. I'm currently siding with Yoda and Mace btw.
@CielBlanche
@CielBlanche 7 жыл бұрын
yo jens, keep the EU alive my man
@memine8795
@memine8795 7 жыл бұрын
Obi wan Kenobi vs Exar Kun
@joshuaoneill3118
@joshuaoneill3118 7 жыл бұрын
Poor Qui-Gon is the jobber of duelists, in this series.
@nerdsforever4852
@nerdsforever4852 7 жыл бұрын
not a jobber but a mid carder who never wins
@therishimazefanatic1439
@therishimazefanatic1439 7 жыл бұрын
Palpatine vs Exar Kun and Darth Krayt
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
Palp gets stomped. Hes good, but there is no way he can beat arguably the overall 2nd and 4th greatest Sith Lords in Galatic History.
@kiadisandwich1836
@kiadisandwich1836 7 жыл бұрын
Rob George Krayt isn't the second greatest Sith lord in galactic history by any stretch of the imagination. Kun isn't even in the top 10. Palpatine wins.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Ki Adi Sandwich Just wondering then. Who do you think in the overall sense are the top 10 greatest Sith Lord Combatants in Star Wars?
@kiadisandwich1836
@kiadisandwich1836 7 жыл бұрын
Rob George 1.Sidious 2.Sorasu Taalon 3. Darth Plagueis 4. Valkorion 5.Darth Tenebrous 6. Darth Caedus 7. Darth Tenebrous's master 8. Darth Gean 9. Darth Ramage 10. Darth Krayt/Darth Venamis.
@robgeorge4581
@robgeorge4581 7 жыл бұрын
+Ki Adi Sandwich Okay, interesting list. As force weilders, I rank Valk as number 2 but since I said overall, I do understand why you consider Plague above him. I clearly haven't done enough EU reading though because I don't know who Darth Gean and Rampage are though.
@sauronsrighthandman301
@sauronsrighthandman301 7 жыл бұрын
Darth malgus vs return of the Jedi Luke skywalker.
@joshuakei8925
@joshuakei8925 7 жыл бұрын
Malgus stomps. Malgus' force abilities are way more advance and his more aggressive Djem So catches Luke off guard and overwhelms him
@user-tl1yx1xh6i
@user-tl1yx1xh6i 7 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai1 is the best
@nedoubles6377
@nedoubles6377 7 жыл бұрын
komari vosa vs asajj ventress both from the literature not the craptoons.
@papadragon695
@papadragon695 7 жыл бұрын
Please consider doing Darth Sion vs Kaox Krul, the Mad Marauders
@highgroundproductions8590
@highgroundproductions8590 7 жыл бұрын
you speak very formally. just saying
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