VescX: PintX + Trampa VESC 6-75

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surfdado

surfdado

Жыл бұрын

Fixing a dead PintX using a Trampa VESC 6 75 but keeping the existing battery and BMS, just configuring it for charge-only
Trampa VESC 6 75:
trampaboards.com/vesc-6-75-co...

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@JedDungo
@JedDungo Жыл бұрын
Really good watch Dado. Inspiring me to VESC my Pint in the future. I always enjoy watching squirrelly setups. Makes it look like you're putting in work. Also, all your "oh shit" commentary is hilarious!
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks Jed
@bedbugslondon
@bedbugslondon Жыл бұрын
Great work the pint is twitchy off-road , its good to see just what is possible for our One wheels in the future.
@MaxxSend
@MaxxSend Жыл бұрын
Nice commentary and variety of shots! Your best vid to date 🤟🏻 And you'll love that Enduro pint tire, so stable yet carvy! Oh and that's dope u can have it go into stand mode after riding, would be fun when you run into a store real quick and leave it at front 🤣
@auden_builds
@auden_builds Жыл бұрын
Honestly this was great video! One of your best I found it the most entertaining
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks buddy, I'm trying hard to make my videos less boring :)
@douglasyoung3992
@douglasyoung3992 Жыл бұрын
Your a great pioneer in this stuff, you're rambling on about things is how we're going to learn. Music was a bit much in the beginning
@paulus_germanus
@paulus_germanus Жыл бұрын
You're amazing bro! 🤯🤯🤯 Future is bright!
@rafaelinmissouri6235
@rafaelinmissouri6235 Жыл бұрын
I got mine done today. Thanks much for your help though this video!!!
@TeddyWalla
@TeddyWalla Жыл бұрын
"the stock pint tire makes it challenging" haha that's the fun of it!
@douglasyoung3992
@douglasyoung3992 Жыл бұрын
Oh hell, flywheel mode! Thats so cool!
@hiya1234567899
@hiya1234567899 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see mods done like this but the the Onewheel GT with all of its factory lock outs!!
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
send me your GT and I'll do it ;) None of the lockouts are an issue for VESCing it
@frankdrenckhahn9521
@frankdrenckhahn9521 Жыл бұрын
Normally closed 12mm switches are quite common, but not with LED light. However, since you can program an automatic power down after x minutes, the switch is only needed for the wakeup functionality and a light is not really required.
@adrian3137
@adrian3137 Жыл бұрын
Flywheel mode so damn cool 😎
@HumanSynergy
@HumanSynergy Жыл бұрын
Another great tribute to the community. Can this bms mod work for the lil focer 3.1 and then a 4209 BMS
@BillyShredder
@BillyShredder Жыл бұрын
I had a 60v trampa Vesc 6. I liked it! Fit good in the pint housings. Not having Pull down resistors was a pain. But I think with my current engagement system I might not even need pull down resistors.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
Hard to imagine any scenario where you don’t need pull down resistors. High chance of ghosting. Also what battery did you use with the VESC 6?
@BillyShredder
@BillyShredder Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado stock pint battery.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
@@BillyShredder oh wow that’s crazy, how long did it last??
@BillyShredder
@BillyShredder Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado well I didn’t ride it much. Messed up the sensor I had with pull down resistors built in. So couldn’t really get a set up after that.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
@@BillyShredder as far as I understand the 60V limit is a pretty hard limit, people have gotten away with 13s batteries, but 15s should pretty easily kill it because the stock Pint pack will easily exceed 65V on regen and even more when doing tricks like slides and such. Supposedly even 61V is enough to kill the VESC 6
@frankdrenckhahn9521
@frankdrenckhahn9521 Жыл бұрын
The pulldown should be placed as close as possible to the JST pin on the VESC controller. Reason: when the cable brakes it should pull down the signal to GND. We can design a little pull down pcb with ease.
@me_josh
@me_josh Жыл бұрын
Wow that's amazing bro...did you ever have time for update on this project and will you sell your diy boards?
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
We discovered today at work at Trampa that the vesc 6 fits the stock controller case bolted to the lid. Happy days
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
If you don't care about connectors and waterproofing then you can fit most VESCs. But why VESC 6? Will you make a custom battery? Why not 6-75 and reuse the XR/Plus battery?
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado no custom battery . Basic build. I find 84V setups too heavy for techy trails, like GT. And I have a spare xr to vesc, the denim one you may have seen. Cheap and easy! The vesc 6s are the same size, it was just a size test today, it looked doable to me. For many in our community, these things are out of reach unless they are good value, so a conversion will be what most new vesc adopters will do in uk, if at all
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
​@@redboyjan vesc6 cannot handle a basic XR battery - you need a 6-75
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado yes I know. I should be clearer always. Same physical size for sizing
@515klrkillahoobie6
@515klrkillahoobie6 Жыл бұрын
So is the lil focer or the trampa the best bet for pint assembly and vesc tool compatible
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for work (trampa) to get the 6 75 in stock for my first vesc swap. Can I ask what pull down resistor values you used? Did you find a suitable momentary switch for this vesc? Is there anything new or not in the video you can add, since the time of making this video? Thanks always for your work to help the community, we appreciate you
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
I used 1kOhm but anything up to 10kOhm will work. I did find an NC momentary switch so I now benefit from auto-shutdown which is really nice. Also the BKB Voyager remote works nicely alongside my BLE module
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado thank you much! I have that remote too!
@agyas23
@agyas23 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work! And what about the speed? Would be interesting to see what happenes at the usual pushback speed. I am really close to vesc my Pint X as well.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
haven't done a proper speed test yet, but on the last group ride the PintX was keeping up with XRs and GTs without ever dealing with pushback
@ArtjomsSmirnovs
@ArtjomsSmirnovs Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado pleeeease run a speed test 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I don’t suggest to push the limit, just check when the Captain Morgan arrives. Early pushback is the biggest pain with the Pint.
@northuniverse
@northuniverse 10 ай бұрын
@@ArtjomsSmirnovs I just hit 25MPH on my VESC PX (Ubox)
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
Love this! Thanks for all the infotainment you have put out. Can I ask if a stock controller case mod is possible to fit a trampa vesc? To start I will use stock battery / bms, and soon a UK cbxr clone instead. Any particular trampa vesc you can recommend please? And anything additional I may need. If you wouldn't mind. I started work at Trampa recently so hoping to connect with a couple of faces who they know and see what's up
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
congrats on your new job! Now, this is an XR question, right? The XR or Plus controller box doesn't have enough space for the Trampa VESCs but if you remove the handle then it will fit easily. Or 3D printing. Search "flowglider" on thingiverse to find 3D models
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado thanks. XR yeah
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado would the 6 75 work?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
@@redboyjan wdym? Of course it would, that's what I used in the video you commented on
@redboyjan
@redboyjan Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado just checking haha. Not paid too much attention while the project matured tbh, but my new work circumstances mean learning stuff is useful suddenly! Once again, thanks for sharing your knowledge to the community
@JakeItsTheCops
@JakeItsTheCops 6 ай бұрын
What is the pole count in the pint motor?
@surfdado
@surfdado 6 ай бұрын
30, same as all other Onewheel motors currently in use
@mlastudioproductions
@mlastudioproductions Жыл бұрын
@surfdado will you be releasing a document with a setup guide like you made for the XR conversion going over wiring, soldering and jst connectors as far as wiring the VESC to as much stock components as possible? I think the community would be very grateful for it.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure which document you’re referring to for the XR, but either way all the documents you need are already on the Vescify Discord server. That’s what I used to get my conversion done
@autolex1675
@autolex1675 Жыл бұрын
​@@surfdado vescify?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
@@autolex1675 discord.gg/2F4cf4f4
@KaizenOz
@KaizenOz Жыл бұрын
Whisper wide is great on the PintX, and only weighs 1.0kg
@uhjyuff2095
@uhjyuff2095 Жыл бұрын
is it true the red wire on the bms and battery is negatively charged?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
not true - they do stick to norms on wire colors, but instead their XT60s are reversed inside the battery compartment
@chananyaminster2075
@chananyaminster2075 Жыл бұрын
Will a powerbutton be possible sometime in the future?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
A power button is possible now, I got one on my desk, just need to find the time to open up the controller box and install it
@eBoard3R
@eBoard3R Жыл бұрын
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@northuniverse
@northuniverse Жыл бұрын
I noticed your battery's negative lead looks like it has something on it, did you have to reinforce it?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
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@northuniverse
@northuniverse Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado that happened to my PX too :(
@TweetFPV
@TweetFPV Жыл бұрын
what is this magic at the end!?!?
@twoguysonewheel9339
@twoguysonewheel9339 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 broken pint x could you build or help me build them? Thanks!
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
sorry, I can't but if you join the Vescify Discord you will find everything you need to do the conversion yourself: discord.gg/6vFHJXMB
@chananyaminster2075
@chananyaminster2075 Жыл бұрын
What’s the top speed you can get?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
I'm not much of a top speed guy but on this weekend's group ride the PintX was keeping up with XRs and GTs without ever dealing with pushback
@deltax7159
@deltax7159 Жыл бұрын
if you increased the battery size to 16s as just stated was possible in the beginning of the video, how would that increase the range? and the torque?? obsessed with my pintx just wish it has a little more range. if it could go 25 miles and had XR style pushback, I would never need to buy another wheel ever again.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
sounds like you want a GT. Going from 15s to 16s gives you 6 percent more range. Torque is the same
@deltax7159
@deltax7159 Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado ahh ok, so not a substantial increase in range. I like everything about the GT except the size and weight
@agyas23
@agyas23 Жыл бұрын
Will the gt40 work with vesced pint x? I am thinking about that option. As i not always need that range i just have to put on the fender when i do.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
@@agyas23 definitely works, VESC doesn’t care. Also no need to worry about incorrect readings in the app.
@EugeneMaynard
@EugeneMaynard Жыл бұрын
👍🏾🙏🏾
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude Жыл бұрын
As part of this transition from FM based OW to VESC based OW think about, at some point, adding a feature to bleed off charge during full charge downhill runs.
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
That kind of feature requires a giant chunk of hardware, wouldn’t be practical for such a compact vehicle
@RichardBronosky
@RichardBronosky Жыл бұрын
You don't need to replace the button. You just need to use binary logic to invert the value. There are lots of ways to do this. I have ideas, but they are probably outdated. If you can't find a younger EE to propose a circuit for you, I'll tell you how I would do it. Let me know what you think. ☮️❤️🌈
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
Whatever circuit you have in mind wouldn’t it need to be powered somehow?
@RichardBronosky
@RichardBronosky Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado what ever voltage the VESC's operating voltage is set to (likely 5v or 3.3v) should work. One way to do it would be to have a 5 pin relay. 2 pins receive the activation current. The 3 other pins toggle the center between the Normally Open and Normally Closed. But, since the VESC won't be powered on to activate the relay... Yeah, it might need a dedicated voltage regulator. This is tough. A real EE may have a better solution.
@RichardBronosky
@RichardBronosky Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado I suspect someone will have a NE555 IC solution or use a voltage regulator and a PNP transistor.
@adrian3137
@adrian3137 Жыл бұрын
Any chance your app will come to Android?
@surfdado
@surfdado Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I’m afraid that’ll never happen. It would be a complete rewrite
@adrian3137
@adrian3137 Жыл бұрын
@@surfdado 🥲 ouch
@515klrkillahoobie6
@515klrkillahoobie6 Жыл бұрын
Ill get a vesc and ios phone asap yessss
@samguy7587
@samguy7587 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the stock tire is squirrelly but I needed it squirrlier lol
@TheAnimeist
@TheAnimeist Жыл бұрын
2:21 Who keeps the envelop that their TFL float plate comes in? Oh wait ... there's one to my right.
@BraveNewWrld
@BraveNewWrld Жыл бұрын
its so hard to watch anyone record while riding..esp when they as squirrely as this dude- last month I had my first nose dive ever after 200 miles without ever doing so... ate the pavement @ 13mph..the only protective gear I was wearing was gloves and pants only because it was night and a little chilly, the pants didn't do much both my knees got ate up, luckily the gloves saved my hands which i can only imagine what they would have look like had i not wore them.., gashed my eyebrow had to stitch it up 5times and my chin right/front side got rashed pretty bad...got it on camera tho - which after you watch me eat it all you see is trees and sky going by as you hear the fading sounds of me moaning and swearing for a good 4-5 secs awhile my phone flew/slid a good 25-30yds down the street... I watched it once and refuse to watch it again. Im designing/testing my own device to put on the front to prevent it from happening again. yes i know these exist but i think I can do better and make one much more compact. I like my pint but wish id bought a GT my feet are too bigand I have to have them placed in one exact spot or im not comfortable on it
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