Vice | Based on a True Story

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I was simply happy that Vice wasn’t as bad as I expected, but it remains the worst of 2018 thus far. Some folks are fine with anything being said in the service of going after Dick Cheney, but I am certainly not that vindictive of him or anyone. Lies are lies, no matter who you are telling them about. But much like my Death of Stalin review, if I’m busting myths about a someone generally think is a bad guy, which to be clear is a dumb way of viewing history, then I’m going to be labelled as defending the man. Just you wait, people are going to be that kind of stupid about this. The funny thing is this movie could’ve easily avoided these problems if it wasn’t so vindictive to begin with, but I can understand how difficult it is to talk about Cheney’s vice-presidency.
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Wiki: Vice is a 2018 American biographical comedy-drama film written and directed by Adam McKay. The film stars Christian Bale as former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney,[4] with Amy Adams, Steve Carell, Sam Rockwell, Tyler Perry, Alison Pill, Lily Rabe, and Jesse Plemons in supporting roles. The film follows Cheney on his path to become the most powerful Vice President in American history. It is the second theatrical film to depict the presidency of George W. Bush, following Oliver Stone's W. (2008).
Vice was released in the United States on December 25, 2018, by Annapurna Pictures through their Mirror Releasing joint-venture, and grossed $76 million worldwide. The film divided critics, as some lauded it as "cleverly biting", while others denounced it as "a clumsy display of political hatred", with McKay's screenplay and direction receiving both "scathing critiques and celebratory praise". Despite the polarized reception for the film itself, the performances, particularly those of Bale and Adams, received universal praise.
The film received numerous awards and nominations, with eight nominations at the 91st Academy Awards, including a Best Picture nomination and a win for Best Make-Up and Hairstyling. It also had a leading six nominations at the 76th Golden Globe Awards (including a nomination for Best Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy), and six nominations at the 72nd British Academy Film Awards. For their performances, Bale, Adams, and Rockwell were nominated at all three shows, with Bale winning the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor - Motion Picture Musical or Comedy.
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@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to CuriosityStream for sponsoring this episode. Goto curiositystream.com/cynicalhistorian to get a 30-day free trial And indeed, this has been *demonetized by manual review*

@fionafiona1146 4 жыл бұрын

Sad to know KZfaq dose not value your content as much as we do.

@fionafiona1146 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-lj2cb2pj8j Folatplain should go online soon and there are all ready available streaming platforms (political content on porn hub was an issue for them) (Facebook might not be ethical or carry your target audience /offer you the same connectivity and platform) (patron can be set below cost) ect. (topic specific archives are also available and will continue to accept submissions).

@BradyPostma 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Excellent evidence that "demonetized" does not mean "bad."

@gabo1841997 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they did read Angler and decided to missquote it on purpose. This film projects itself as very ideologically charged, a far-left distortion of reality. And the last scene in the movie makes it clear to me that they were self aware of how much of a farse it really is. The Oil map on itself is evidence enough that they manipulated the data on purpose to fit the narrative.

@lordkarasu2263 3 жыл бұрын

00:45-“WILSOOON”!

@wyatthill6252 3 жыл бұрын

Regardless of the opinion of the movie, you gotta admit Bale killed it.

@gerryfegan3608 2 жыл бұрын

Bro I literally just commented the same thing before I saw this. He did such a phenomenal job even better than Leo did in the Hoover biopic

@grantsmith608 6 ай бұрын

Great movie but not an accurate one

@iammrbeat 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I figured you would tear this one apart.

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

it was inevitable

@lobachevscki 2 жыл бұрын

Mathematician and statistician here: The Big Short nails down the economical and math aspects of the whole house bubble. It really does and it shows it wonderfully. I will be willing to bet that because the subject matter already plays into McKay's biases then the historical accuracy might be better respected, but the math is flawless (accepting there will be simplifications).

@Xsetsu Жыл бұрын

Old comment, I know but Micheal Lewis' book is just a better source material to pull from anyway. As you said, The Big Short wasn't political, but told a gripping story of the people behind the event, mostly the winners. Fantastic book and movie. Lewis loves to geek out on the technical side without being technical in his books, which makes his books an easy and enjoyable read for anyone whether they are an expert in finance or not. I really didn't think they would be able to make that good of a movie of the book, but the combination of exposition dumps, voice over, and 4th wall breaks in the movie enhanced it in immeasurable ways to compliment the book's style of story, history, and education of the events took place.

@justanirishtayto5755 3 жыл бұрын

So what I’m reading from this review is that Vice was basically a Dinesh D’Souza movie for liberals

@andrewdeen1 2 жыл бұрын

that's a yoga master stretch....

@internetstrangerstrangerofweb Жыл бұрын

After looking further into cheney, I was DEVESTATED to discover that the movie didn’t cover ANYTHING about his oversight of the invasion of Panama, and desert storm *AS HW BUSH’S SECRETARY OF DEFENSE* which could’ve given ENORMOUS insight into the window of cheney’s decision making. It’s crazy to realize the movie isn’t AS GOOD as I once thought. But the soundtrack is truly amazing.

@Geep615 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone ever think of Cheney as a poor man's Otto Von Bismark

@LukeSky2207 3 жыл бұрын

@@itsblitz4437 yes

@Kaiserboo1871 2 жыл бұрын

That… is an interesting comparison.

@ACrownofFlowers 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a liberal, but even while watching this and not knowing as much as you I felt it was really cartoonish. I was like: "there's no wayunknown psychopathic person that is capable of showing emotion here and empathy is this one-dimesional."

@ACrownofFlowers 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheWazzoGames What do you mean? I don't recall ever doing that and if I did it was probably when I was like 13 or 14. Lol. I've always tried to be respectful on KZfaq.

@sjewitt22 3 жыл бұрын

@@itsblitz4437 SJW's LOL, how old are you? You the type who think the Clintons are far left.

@banzaiperson 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like this is a leftist version of a right-wing conspiracy movie about the deep state and the globalists and how they're gonna take away our peanut butter or whatever crap the QAnon people believe in nowadays.

@briannawaldorf8485 Жыл бұрын

@@banzaiperson you know the deep state was originally a leftist (not liberal) conspiracy theory that was co-opted by right wingers? The far right never supported the war in iraq the moderate right did. See Alex Jones old clips ranting about the war and bush. Alex Jones repopularised the deep state conspiracy to his right wing viewership but it was originally anti war leftists who had started it. Noam Chomsky comes to mind. It became more popular under Obama because a liberal was in power opening it up to more moderate right wingers who would previously ignore criticism to their side. The leftists at the time were entranced by Obama and thought he was a progressive so they didn’t further it much. Everyone at this point hated bush so it was more palatable to average conservatives. Trump banked on this when he came on the political scene because he was very tuned into the conspiracy right. This + pizzagate + multiple other conspiracies , some right wing some apolitical combined to become qanon.

@MrZomBie775 4 жыл бұрын

It's one thing to have some historical inaccuracies for the sake of the story, but to deliberately ignore the facts and push a conspiratorial viewpoint is down right dangerous.

@poutineperspective3328 4 жыл бұрын

Overall great review, but on the topic of Antonin Scalia the assertion that he wouldn't support "absolute executive authority" is wrong. He espoused that view almost word for word in a supreme court case & has been instrumental in pushing it towards the judicial mainstream among conservative judges. In Morrison vs Olsen (a case regarding the constitutionality of independent counsels) Scalia was the sole dissenter (arguing that independent counsels where unconstitutional). His main argument comes from his interpretation that article 2 "does not mean some of the executive power, but all of the executive power." I would agree that this is definitely not in keeping with the original intentions at the country's founding. But given that Scalia supported this argument I would see that as a hole in his "originalist" philosophy.

@williamcondon7729 2 жыл бұрын

Ya, I struggled with that one too. Originalism is just a guise to make it sound more tame like we are getting back to something we had, it’s a branding technique. Originalists are radical in their own way.

@mirandagarcia3888 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this episode very much. This is one of your best Based on a True Story.

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

miranda garcia same here

@TheOsamaBahama 4 жыл бұрын

Cypher. Could you make a video debuking the Iraq War for Oil conspiracy theory ? I would love to send that video to a bunch of people I know.

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

Rick Apocalypse well why not do a whole video on the lies and half truths of the Iraq war ? I would love to see that

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

problem with debunking conspiracists is they'll always come up with some new argument or just say you're in on it. Either way, it's useless to argue against them

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

The Cynical Historian ok

@kzonedd7718 4 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian I'd still love to see it, though...

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

also, that would definitely get demonetized. Here's the simple version: Oil may have been a reason for interest in the region, but to say the invasion was for oil would be conspiracism of the highest order. We have the reasons given by the administration and congress, terrorism and noncompliance. Were they good reasons? no, but no one can honestly deny those were the reasons

@andrewosborn4338 4 жыл бұрын

I think the film is packed with symbolism and I still love the film. Even if it gets a lot of things wrong, the thing is, is that lots of shady stuff has gone down in American politics and I think a lot of scenes seem very direct but they are meant to be taken differently and I really don't think it's trying to say Cheney created ISIS

@kirstenmcintosh5899 3 жыл бұрын

"I am certainly not that vindictive of him or anyone." Lol. Meanwhile those wilson videos are just sitting there. (Just joking, btw)

@TheNecromancer6666 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being able to have your heart in the right place AND being fair and differentiated to everyone including assholes. Needs more people like you in media and politics

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 4 жыл бұрын

Slight correction, and this probably sounds petty as hell, but Robert Muellers last name is pronounced Mull er, not Muell er. I think the less german pronunciation is because his family has been in the United States since the 1800s leading to a more americanized pronunciation.

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

I've heard it both ways on the news. Did you get that from his pronunciation?

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 4 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian Yes, he said it like that during the hearing.

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 4 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian Actually had to triple check. John Brennan introduced him in 2014 as Mull er. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9FiZq5-1Nmyj4U.html

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

roger that, thanks

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 4 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian No problem. I think this is the only time I got a pronoun right. I'm the worst. I once pronounced someone name Beau as Be Owe.

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 4 жыл бұрын

I've seen the Big Short. You could say it's good at educating people on economy... or say its really talking down to its audience plus its humor often is out of tone with the rest of the picture especially when it breaks the forth wall.

@OMG3DBEAT 4 жыл бұрын

You should read the book it is a page-turner

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 4 жыл бұрын

@@OMG3DBEAT I probably should. I doubt that version had Margot Robbie in a bathtub explaining the housing market.

@petitnicollas 4 жыл бұрын

I like the humour in both movies, Vice had some problems but I enjoyed most of the time.

@jasonshaneyfelt1039 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I felt I was the only one who felt The Big Short was one of the most condescending movies I've ever seen. Absolutely no respect for the audience's intelligence.

@SBotello39 3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonshaneyfelt1039 You can say that. But I am pretty sure that most of the audience needed some help with some of the terms and topics that the movie talks about, like the CDOs, the Bonds classifications and what shorting is and how it works. Although I did find the explanations more confusing than helpful.

@LinusE 2 жыл бұрын

2 years late but don’t let this movie give you doubts on Big Short. The Big Short is a fantastic film, I’ve read the book it’s based on and it’s a great movie that does the book justice and the events surrounding the 08 crisis!

@Spencerdude2000 4 жыл бұрын

Since you do historical miniseries now and you mentioned Roger Ails, ... can you do the Showtime miniseries The Loudest Voice?

@darkchocolate3390 3 жыл бұрын

4:58 you really said it like "Mew-ler" 😂

@willspritchard9061 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's an overstretch to state that the film tried to imply that Lynne Cheney's father murdered his wife. It merely suggests that his well-documented history of domestic abuse and violence towards her was a substantive component of what drove her to suicide. It's a plausible, if speculative, version of events and would still account for Cheney's animosity towards his father-in-law.

@mohsolim6020 4 жыл бұрын

Bro your vids are raw as heck👍🏽👍🏽

@joeyjacob8088 4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate the content and pointing out the inaccuracies, but I could not follow many of the inaccuracies that you pointed out because the clips were short and there is a lot of subtles with the material. Just another sentence of what is wrong and what we know to actually be the case would be sufficient.

@banalMinuta 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a video on the authenticity of The Big Short

@jacksonplaysgames2422 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely big on finance idk if he would be qualified but I would love to see that either way

@petitnicollas 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the movie, although I was already expecting that it wouldn't be factual. I generally liked the direction, the snarky humour was too much sometimes but the performances were good even if they're very cartoony.

@theodorerichervis3241 3 жыл бұрын

I am a fellow historian and I have to say, your channel is one of the best when it comes to comprehensive and good faith r and a. You have what I consider to be an insultingly low amount of views and I hope it grows even more, good content is often so hard to find for historical subjects. I'm very happy you put your time into this for our benefit

@generalesdeath5836 4 жыл бұрын

Even as a conservative, I was actually interested in this movie. Looking back, I didn’t care much for a lot of what the Bush administration did. I supported the Iraq war, but then, so did the democrats at the time (most of them) and I was only about 15 years old, and hadn’t developed my anti-war sentiments yet. I was just upset about 9/11, which happened when I was at a very impressionable age. But knowing the film is so dishonest to such an extreme extent really turns me off to it. What could have been an insightful look at Cheney is boiled down to nothing but lies and exaggerations that benefit no one and nothing except to further polarize the people of the United States.

@albiesnyder412 4 жыл бұрын

The sad thing is this movie is amazing. If they just said inspired by true events, instead of based on true events it would have been perfect.

@jasonshaneyfelt1039 3 жыл бұрын

Most audience members take that to mean the same thing.

@charlietheanteater3918 4 жыл бұрын

Oh god I can’t wait for the comments on this one. Excuse me while I get my popcorn

@tomcruz8615 4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the work man! 👍

@ja_e314 3 жыл бұрын

5:10 thank you for editing in one of my favorite 2004 election videos

@BradyPostma 4 ай бұрын

Did you ever make an episode about _The Big Short?_

@ArkansanPartisan 4 жыл бұрын

"Shampoo filling area" in photo at 3:05 ????

@daveward9785 4 жыл бұрын

On point 18 the sources refers to media sources. As in when a reporter writes "A High ranking source is quoted as saying"

@PaulNazarkardeh 4 жыл бұрын

Misheard "cog" at 5:36 for something else for a second! Either word works though!

@huntinggroundstudios 3 жыл бұрын

As an Australian that really has no opinion in American politics one way or the other, I really enjoyed this film, but I'm glad you made this video to sort the fact from fiction. I've come to take every bio pic with a grain of salt, but that does not mean you can not enjoy them. Zodiac is one of my favourite films of all time, but I still acknowledge that Fincher was very heavily biased into thinking he knew who the killer was. I have the same mindset here

@frankreberto9637 2 жыл бұрын

You know you are a baller when you shoot your friend in the face and then they apologize to you for getting in the way

@fyllingenoy131 3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand #4 (13:11) What is the movie saying here?

@earlgrey8143 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for trying to give a thoughtful and neutral analysis. I know that can be hard on internet. Hope you don't get too much hate in the comments.

@count_bodies_like_sheep9296 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this informative video. I’ve been guilty of falling into those talking points about Cheney, this video clears a lot up. I still don’t like the guy but now I know what to avoid saying.

@Imperiused 4 жыл бұрын

6:08 Top of the line political cartoon right there!

@Malkmusianful 4 жыл бұрын

okay, good video, but your insistence that the movie blames neoliberalism on the Kochs and Coorses doesn't make sense. even Jesse Plemons' narrator mentions that families LIKE the Kochs and the Coors (i.e. families that happen to run big ol' corporations) helped in the creation of think tanks (i.e. AEI, CATO, Heritage Foundation). CATO has actual connections to Charles Koch, for example - he was one of the founders. And it's weird that they've become so popular and considered worthy sources within the past 30 years.

@acceleration4443 4 жыл бұрын

Hal Emmerich You can do anything if u have enough money.

@joebanuelos5614 3 жыл бұрын

As a cynical historian could you review max blumenthal's book, managment of savegry?

@freemantle85 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I can't stand Cheney and the Bush administration but I found to Vice to be nothing more than a hatchet job that was more keen to 'educate' then actually be a good film. There were some moments I like showing Cheney's love for his family but this was too little to cover up the film failure on facts.

@albiesnyder412 4 жыл бұрын

Can you please do an episode on the Big Short, it's by the same people.

@Kilndwngle224 4 жыл бұрын

Hey cynical historian I recently subscribed to your channel after watching your darkest hour review could you do a video on a movie called the best of enemies

@JJMcCullough 4 жыл бұрын

It was honestly one of the worst movies I'd ever seen. I wanted to walk out, because I was tired of having my intelligence insulted.

@ufotalk9434 4 жыл бұрын

Love your channel bro

@TheBryanScout 3 жыл бұрын

JJ my man, didn’t expect to see you here

@kiba21ryuu 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@giorgosmichael9142 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do a review on the historical context of Team America?

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

that actually sounds like a lot of fun. maybe I'll do that next year when the 4th rolls along

@jamessheerin121 4 жыл бұрын

My favourite news channel.

@mrpotato7637 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this movie, but that’s with the mindset of this is fiction. I find myself doing that often with “historical” movies, it gets past the this is inaccurate, and allows me to enjoy the movie as a movie, which for vice I really liked the style they went with. I get this approach doesn’t work for all, and doesn’t stop a movie from being criticized for being wrong, but it helps me to enjoy based on “true” events movies. Little side note, number 19 with Israel, I recall saying out loud that doesn’t make sense when I watched the movie.

@videoaddict961 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine choosing to watch Vice before the big Short, haven’t watched it because I knew it would be trash from the trailer

@PinkNinjaKick 2 күн бұрын

The Big Short movie is based on the book of the same name whose author did an incredible amount of research, including interviews with the real life characters, to make an accurate picture of the 2008 recession. The Big Short movie is very good and accurate. I think Vice would be a good movie if the events happened the way the movie portrays them, but of course that isn’t the case. I can’t watch this movie again just because it’s so inaccurate it’s harmful.

@falsedavidbowie368 2 жыл бұрын

I’m interested in hearing your opinion on The Power of Nightmares documentary. It certainly is something, I’ll say that much.

@davidhumphrey2593 4 жыл бұрын

Cinema is an art and not a science. The film Vice tries to exaggerate some things and not other things to make the point it wants to make. I still like this movie.

@alexman378 3 жыл бұрын

It’s very much a science. You don’t think of it if you’re just a consumer, but once you go into the details of how a film is made, yeah, it’s a science. Through subtle manipulation, they try to implant an idea and make you feel something. There’s formulas and proven results through them, depending on what you’re after. It doesn’t always succeed, but how many do you think saw Vice and are convinced this is 100% exactly what happened? McKay even put a post credits scene to make sure that anyone questioning it, looked like a caricature.

@yitzchalfari2426 4 жыл бұрын

Despite it's falsehood and the ramifications of producing a film with such insinuations, I found it enjoyable to watch (not as a historian).

@finbarrnolan7676 4 жыл бұрын

This probably one of the most laughably inaccurate and dishonest movies I've seen in a very long time.

@admiralbrown9334 3 жыл бұрын

Is that Irish politician Prionsais de Rossa at 3.20?

@oscartango2348 4 жыл бұрын

I admire your want for these films to be historically accurate, but if a film is truly accurate but unwatchable, I think that defeats the purpose of the film. I agree intentionally misrepresenting history is wrong and stupid, but events have to be condensed and combined many times just to make events coherent to the intended audience. I love your content either way.

@troodon1096 4 жыл бұрын

Well, this is both inaccurate and unwatchable, and it didn't merely condense or simplify events, it made events up out of whole cloth that are blatantly false based on publicly available evidence and even contradict their own source. The purpose of this film was to smear Cheney, pure and simple; not to inform anyone about anything. And it didn't even do a good job at that.

@illsurvive5 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone wants a big bad evil guy that they can blame everything on. They want to be able to look back and say "Yeah, I and everyone around me was afraid and willingly throwing away our rights and freedoms to feel less afraid... But if it wasn't for that one guy the bad stuff wouldn't have happened." It makes me really sad.

@ShooterQ 4 жыл бұрын

I had a lot of fun watching this movie, but as we were walking out of the theater I was explaining to my step-father which bits were exaggerated or fictional, which parts were reality, and which parts we don't know about but have theories concerning and how the movie chose theories that worked best for its goal. I enjoyed the film, but I worry sometimes that films like these are the reality for many of my fellow citizens.

@jasonshaneyfelt1039 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, they very much are reality for many. I've seen many, many, many of my more politically active friends taking this movie as pure gospel.

@alexman378 3 жыл бұрын

Of course they are. You think all those things this guy brings up, were mistakes? McKay knew what he was doing, very well. Of course he already knew all that, he just manipulated it. Sure there’s a few people who will look into it, figure out what the reality is, but the vast majority will take what they’ve been told and run with it.

@alexc610 4 жыл бұрын

Have you considered doing a review of Oliver stone’s W.

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

i don't wanna, pls don't make me. I still have a little sanity left

@NormanMStewart 4 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian Me: M A N I A C A L L A U G H

@alexc610 4 жыл бұрын

The Cynical Historian thanks for doing a review of vice though I’ve been waiting for someone to tear this monstrosity a new one

@KamsPoliticalPredictions 3 жыл бұрын

0:39 OBJECTION! Vice is one of the top political drama movies of all time and of the previous decade. At least to me by the way. And mainly because it proves Christian Bale is a shapeshifter and because Steve Carell surprisingly did well at Donald Rumsfeld But I do agree with some parts of your criticism. Especially the movie implying Lynne's mother was murdered by her father. I agree with you on that, 100%.

@EPMTUNES 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video. I had recently began looking into the politics of 2000-onward and was super excited to watch this movie after learning about Cheney-Haliburton stuff. I wish that a movie like this would actually put in the effort to make it true (which is not that hard given there resources). The story is actually there. The truth of the administrations decisions is interesting, and how Cheney links to it all is important too. Why lie and dramatize it so much when the truth is terrible to begin with?

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

Will you do the movie “on the basis of sex”which is about Ruth Ginsberg?

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

I'm deciding which to do next right now. But also, KZfaq would probably demonetize that, just as they did this one

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

The Cynical Historian ok

@ourfatherinthegreen4065 4 жыл бұрын

"WE FUCKING DID OUR BEST REEEEEEEEE!

@bird2793 2 жыл бұрын

*Seeing one Independent in the Senate vote "No"* Bernie, is that you, old friend?

@BarberJ95 3 жыл бұрын

I really hated the editing in it, it made it seem really silly and took me outta it. I like Adam McKay and think Christian Bale nailed him but even as a leftist thought it went too hard to make Dick Cheney as the guy who created every problem imaginable.

@Koopinator06 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video. I loved the movie for the soundtrack and style but I'm really glad I watched this.

@matthewbanzer7674 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone give me a source for the claim Dick Cheney was not for regime change in the 90s? The man said after the Gulf War that we would always have to be involved in the Middle East.

@koalasandwich567 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, from this takedown and from the cast, the bad guy from Iron Man 2, the kid from Newsies, Micheal Scott, and the handbag saleslady would have made a better film.

@lpr5269 6 ай бұрын

By the way, what guy who gets a heart transplant is going to mention the donor's name? I mean it's in pretty bad taste considering the guy died. What do they expect Cheney to say? Oh I want to thank so and so for dying prematurely in a car accident so I could have this new heart?

@markcarey67 2 жыл бұрын

With The Big Short the source material was from Michael Lewis who is pretty good at financial reporting. If they had primarily followed a single primary source here even if it was a point of view like Angler perhaps they would have done better - with this one it seems Adam McKay didn't chose a solid set of facts to riff off. It was just too much riff.

@wassupwo 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to hear about your graduate school studies on the Neoliberalism rise some time. I would like to hear your view. Good video.

@minoranza 4 жыл бұрын

Letters from Iwo Jima?

@KevinFinkbeiner 2 жыл бұрын

13:36 - For any legal students/scholars in the comments, would this count as slander according to the legal definition, and hypothetically, could Lynne Cheney have a case to sue the filmmaker for such an assertion of her father's character? Genuinely asking, since I know cases of slander and libel are among the hardest cases to prosecute.

@spencerwarren1647 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you i love you work keep it up

@jacobprice2579 3 жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed this film, but take everything in it with a “pinch of salt” as we say in England. As to the Big Short, that is also a good film and useful as it really did help people understand what happened when the Housing Market burst. However, I’d also take it with a pint of salt as the directors political leaning shine through pretty clearly there too. I would however, definitely recommend the book of The Big Short. Excellent piece of journalism and much more comprehensive

@ironbran12 Жыл бұрын

Is this Tobey Mcguire narrating the video?

@johnnyb1647 Жыл бұрын

Thank God you did this video, I watched it thinking it was accurate

@SaintSteven67 2 ай бұрын

I never saw this one after reading an article about how inaccurate and bad it was (I think it might have been the Slate article). Would you agree that Oliver Stone's "W" also did the same to Cheney? Great video.

@CynicalHistorian 2 ай бұрын

I haven't seen it recently enough to say so, but Oliver Stone is the worst director imaginable to cover the topic

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

Yes finally mother of god it is up Cue heavenly choir

@zakkizer2490 4 жыл бұрын

Any books or documentaries you'd recommend on the rise of neoliberalism?

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

quite a few I could name. my favorite from that class was: Daniel T. Rodgers, _Age of Fracture_ (Cambridge, Mass.: The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, 2011). amzn.to/2Zbc6ZU for the most recent scholarship: Kevin M. Kruse and Julain E. Zelizer _Fault Lines: A History of the United States Since 1974_ (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 2019). amzn.to/2Zh3pxe and for a kinda orthodox take: Judith Stein, _Pivotal Decade: How the United States Traded Factories for Finance in the Seventies_ (New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 2010). amzn.to/2HcwiEs

@taddersauce3672 Жыл бұрын

I'm a lefty in my ideas, but even I was like this is quite far fetched, loved the directing style tho.

@bryedtan 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw this film and for me this is movie had a lot of issues it certainly plays really fast and loose with the facts but my big issue was I felt it was tone deaf there was a scene where Dick Cheney and Lynn were all of a sudden quoting like it was Shakespeare I like Richard the III and Macbeth but my god this film went one genre to another it made me feel weird so yeah not a very good film the few things good though is Christian Bale's acting which I have to say he does a great job in portraying him And the make up used to make Bale look like Cheney is good but despite of a good actor the out of tone factually error script could not save this film.

@SomasAcademy 4 жыл бұрын

With the excellent job they did replicating the appearances of most of the major characters with casting and makeup, I was really excited about this movie. Rather disappointed at the inaccuracies, especially how it practically strips Bush of any responsibility for the Iraq War by painting him as a totally inept buffoon under the control of big bad Cheney. Very unfortunate waste of potential.

@SomasAcademy 4 жыл бұрын

On a non-historical note, God I hated how they felt the need to make a topical joke about Trump and Clinton. Like, that joke has a shelf life of no more than a year and a half; it dates the movie.

@falsedavidbowie368 2 жыл бұрын

You know things are bad when Slate thinks the film is too leftist.

@scifience8297 4 жыл бұрын

please do a video on Downfall

@theshenpartei 4 жыл бұрын

Sci Fience he cant because it is different language and it is a nightmare to deal with in editing

@500deathwing 4 жыл бұрын

I personally believe never watch a dramatization of the story of a divisive person. Because it is going to be pretty obvious peoples biases. I saw this movie adds and didn't think much of it as I thought even the ads made Cheney look like a heartless person. I have no love for the guy but he does believe he did was right. This is coming from a pretty liberal guy.

@jackthorton10 4 жыл бұрын

Understandable coming from a conservative guy....

@TheScandinavien 4 жыл бұрын

Could you make video about the lead up and cause of the Iraq War?

@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like doing a video on that would be the equivalent of doing one on the lead-up to Vietnam in 1973 - we're still waiting for the fall of Saigon or whatever the end of this conflict looks like

@DwRockett 3 жыл бұрын

This is a really good video I must say

@AspieOperator 3 жыл бұрын

This is that some House Of Cards season shit.

@rezkalla Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the breakdown

@M.A.C.01 3 жыл бұрын

I got an idea of a few actors for Trump’s presidency pic: Mitt Romney....Mel Gibson Rudy Giuliani....Danny DeVito Melania Trump... Elizabeth Hurley Nancy Pelosi.......Sigourney Weaver Ivanka Trump......Emma Roberts Kellyanne Conway...Uma Therman Donald Trump JR......Will Arnett Eric Trump........Channing Tatum Paul Ryan.........Matthew Morrison Hillary Clinton....Meryl Streep Bernie Sanders.....Jonathan Pryce

@koalasandwich567 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty Good, have Chris Evans as Joe Biden

@95keat 4 жыл бұрын

I found it odd this movie basically just ignores his second term

@amorales2710 3 жыл бұрын

I someone who find movie like this type fascinating and interesting but while watching it it was a little bizarre and I knew for a fact that a lot of what was going on in the movie wasn’t true or was very hollywoodified lmao the on part of the movie that really stuck to me or one quote was at the end when he said that the world is how we recieve it and that reality is why we have to deal with