The most humane way to harvest meat is hunting. Its the ultimate free range. So if you eat meat you can't hate hunters. Think of how beautiful a life a wild deer has vs a farm raised pig or chicken. Plus hunters are notorious for using every possible part of their kill. I promise you that deer's hide is sent to a leather tanner, all the meat is used, etc etc. Hunting just to kill though....that's sick.
@ro86985 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, as someone who shoots regularly and who works in the beef and lamb industry the difference is significant. I have seen lambs and cattle arriving at slaughterhouses in awful conditions by a farmer who is under paid and over worked. Hunting and processing your meat this way is by far the more natural and humane way, the beasts are allowed to roam free and every part of the animal is utilised, not thrown away due to low market demand as I see most days.
@catchercat_yt35034 жыл бұрын
Preppy Shooter HEAR HEAR! I thank you for your common sense
@sansde1ty4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, some commercial farming practices are really abhorrent. I don’t hunt myself although always fancied it, have to make do with a known farmer who does meat boxes. At least I know where the meat comes from and I trust them.
@DarylSolis8 жыл бұрын
For those who think this is evil and sick, think about it more than what you just see. Deer numbers are soaring as there are no predators to hunt them anymore. Hunting deer is beneficial for humans and the deer population. Controlling the hunt respectfully and butchering the beautiful animal for the healthiest meat in the world for humans to consume is totally fine with me. I'd do that job anyway.
@Dave-zi5cz8 жыл бұрын
Your an idiot if you actually read into it you would find that it is not beneficial to the population but hurts the population.
@UltimateBroadcaster8 жыл бұрын
+Willie Stroker *You're
@brendancarter34538 жыл бұрын
+Willie Stroker that's not true at all. I don't know where you heard that.
@idky26854 жыл бұрын
David Patterson the deer numbers are soaring if there was nothing being done there wouldn’t be enough food for all the deer and then you would have deer dying from starvation this is the most humane way to do so without introducing natural predators
@nitishpandey86375 ай бұрын
I suspect Scotland has plenty of grass to feed the soaring population. @@idky2685
@kkesler123210 жыл бұрын
Fair to call yourself a hunter now, welcome to the club young man,,you could see the maturity taking hold by the look in his eye,,job well done. That guide was top notch, one of the best in Scotland I suspect.
@horatius7809 жыл бұрын
Aye came across as a true professional and a nice fella ta boot
@davidconnelly7 жыл бұрын
AAAAARGGGGHHH! YET AGAIN, another perverted, limp wristed plonker who loves the idea of killing defenceless animals that can't hit back, now coming on and telling us that this crap has something to do with becoming a REAL man. Bullshit! You want to be a real man? Let me see you do six months of hardcore boxing training! Or, how about working 15 hours a day in a low paid job - but putting up with it because you want to provide for your family? Or, how about heading down to the schemes and helping out people who are less fortunate than you? These are the things that real men do.
@scottwhitley33926 жыл бұрын
David Connelly do you eat meat?
@josephclout36335 жыл бұрын
The guide is Niall Rowantree and you can find him doing a lot of work with the Fieldsports Britain team. He's a fantastic man with some incredible stories. Check out his interview with David Wright and you will find out how top notch the fella is.
@davidconnelly3 жыл бұрын
@Wo Jak Wow! Here's how crazy your comment is: we're not arguing! That's right. There's NO WAY you're ever getting an argument out of me! I think you're a nut case and I've been around the block enough times to know not to mess with nut cases. So, happy new year and may you have a great day. Three cheers for you!
@leonardosanchez20010 жыл бұрын
the worst thing you can do is kill a dear and not eat it and some other stuff like torture but mostly not eating it
@rormister110 жыл бұрын
Man you guys haven't got a clue, the English dude as you put him is an absolute sik guy.... A proper legend. From the city a hard worker and obviously very open minded and willing to try and do new things. More young men should try to be like this dude! Respect bro and to you too vice!
@DisconnectedRoamer5 жыл бұрын
Hes crying over hunting lmaoo
@catchercat_yt35034 жыл бұрын
Rory mayoh I do respect his capacity to try new things, but calling him a hard worker is a bit of a stretch.
@monsterchild17010 жыл бұрын
guys i worked quite a stack at a game farm in south Africa and often you will find you shoot a pregnant female . when your shooting at 300 meters its neigh on impossible to tell sometimes and it really really fucking sucks when your eviscerating and you find a fetus i promise there isn't a single half decent hunter whose heart doesn't drop at the sight. we actually managed to once save a baby after we had shot the mother and we called him billy the tame blesbok
@brandonpertez776610 жыл бұрын
The feelings he must of felt after seeing the dead baby deer. It was a good hunt though and there was alot of respect
@billywarren88053 жыл бұрын
I can speak from experience that finding a deer with a fawn fetus is never easy.
@killslay11 жыл бұрын
Where the closed captions say "inaudible" he said "pull the stomach away". Just in case you were wondering
@aiki06711 жыл бұрын
I'm a veggie and I watched this. No complaint here. I respect people willing to investigate where their food comes from.
@kparker114511 жыл бұрын
Watch this entirely before you judge! This is raw reality at its finest!
@lukakonstantinkrauss56199 жыл бұрын
5:14 that break
@216trixie11 жыл бұрын
He's a good man for doing this, and recognizing in some way that the skinning and gutting was "justifying 25 years of eating muscle meat".
@jonoj4511 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this doc shows the emotional aspect of hunting. It's not some burly drunk dude running through the woods and murdering everything he sees. There's a deep emotional connection between the hunter and the animal.
@drob--11 жыл бұрын
This guy is my favorite vice journalist.
@philprice128 жыл бұрын
wow I wouldn't want you within a mile holding a loaded gun the way you do
@tapp198511 жыл бұрын
"it looks like a 'Geiger' drawing" love that line lol
@poolboyinla11 жыл бұрын
Those things taste great.
@GlennD9611 жыл бұрын
thanks for keeping it real, Vice. nice to see my country on here
@Bmizzzle111 жыл бұрын
It would have been funny if VICE had sent the "all around loser" to scotland for this. haha
@drorange69a11 жыл бұрын
The dears face on the thumbnail is why i clicked. Its so funny LOL
@matteotarantino7583 жыл бұрын
That deer fetus was haunting
11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you for showing hunting in a positive light.
@playthegamelike11 жыл бұрын
the foetus has left me speechless
@imsofly7411 жыл бұрын
this is something i never wanted to see but im glade i did, it gave me a new respect for hunting
@xtiancolquhoun74104 жыл бұрын
I never really understand why people shoot Hinds while in season or in general, I've always hunted for stags just so I don't run the risk of killing two animals in one.
@jamesgilmartin84852 жыл бұрын
This totally knocked me off guard. I thought they were supposed to preserve young females to keep the species thriving. That didn't seem like a very selective kill
@NotBull06811 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of one time I found a baby deer that I thought was abandoned. I took it home, figured out that you can give em goat milk, tried to take care of it...and then it just fucking died for no apparent reason. Its mother came for it, but it was too late. I most likely killed that deer with my ignorance and good intentions. There's nothing wrong with hunting.
@tricitiesair11 жыл бұрын
Hunting is the last pure link to our ancestors. You stalk, you kill, you eat. I learned from my elders the art of hunting and am passing it down to my children. Sad that so many have a wrong view of what it really is.
@KFCArbiter11 жыл бұрын
Oh god whats wrong with me......When I saw the deer fetus my brain yelled "Double kill!!"....I feel evil now -_-
@BayviewGhost11 жыл бұрын
Why did you put a graphic content warning on this video where some deer are getting skinned and prepared to eat, but not the Syria videos, some of which contain shots of children with their stomachs literally sliced open by shrapnel with their guts spilling out? Not that I'm offended or anything, I just think it's weird that you apparently think the deer skinning is the more disturbing of the two things.
@dhockey6311 жыл бұрын
ironic thing is this kid is calling it murder and savage but its more ethical than keeping thousands of animals locked up in a processing plant their whole life in small pins waiting to be slaughtered. As long as you use the meat of the animal you killed, all is well. If you dont, then that's just horrible
@ITSbigwillystyle11 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with eating meat or killing animals for food, but your reasoning is kind of stupid. Where do you draw the line on what is "just another organism" that's ok to kill? Is it the intelligence factor? Or maybe it's the fact us humans look the same and we can empathize with each other easier. You can't equate an animal such as a deer with a bacterium, that's just absurd. Even our ancestors treated the animal with respect, they used all of it and wasted nothing.
@Dodgybackjack11 жыл бұрын
Yup! From the size it can only be either Red, Fallow, or Roe deer (The 3 largest of our 6 wild species) The hind (female) red deer have a larger creamier coloured bottom with an overhanging tail, whereas a Roe deer has a smaller in size white shaped bottom. Then the easiest way to distinguish between Red and Fallow deer, a fallow deer hide will have loads of white spots whereas a Red deer has a generally uniform colour.
@PostromoPictures11 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between accidentally causing grief and ruining someone's life. The baby won't have a good life. You're argument is entirely invalid and you're making really awful, unrelated analogies. The baby can't feel so it's better to end it's life then and there rather than making it grow up in a struggling household and for the mother's life to also be ruined by it. Who are you to say that someone can't control their own body?
@thesausagecontinuim19712 жыл бұрын
i used too work for a gamekeeper here in edinburgh, he grew up as a child on a deer stalking estate... i swear you could drop that man in the forrest and mountains with nothing more than a toothpick and a pair of wellies and he would thrive...
@bdeely11 жыл бұрын
In case you didn't see the shot, he actually made the shot in the chest/heart of the deer. So, unlike the way you described, there was no blowing out of brains.
@RobiRoadkill11 жыл бұрын
the calf broke my heart
@dancornish305511 жыл бұрын
I love Vice, but i probably could of gone my entire life without seeing a baby deer abortion
@huberticusrex11 жыл бұрын
just a natural and cultural medium that humans have done for thousands of years, good for you Vice for showing it frankly
@Flimmykins11 жыл бұрын
A) They didn't think of adding a warning on their previous videos. B) The person who uploaded the Syria videos did not upload this video. Very likely one of the both.
@dalhousie4411 жыл бұрын
You kind of lost your moral high ground with that last word, sir.
@Localicu11 жыл бұрын
that moment with the baby deer really touched...
@diabolicsloth11 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people are against this.. They're doing this to preserve the ecosystem. Furthermore, buying and eating meat from some supermarket is actually MUCH MUCH worse. The animals had a horrible life (battery farmed), and were most probably killed very inhumanely... Claiming this hunting shown is wrong is in my opinion extremely hypocritical... I would actually not mind going on one of these hunts, I would most probably develop a deeper respect for the things I eat...
@shrapn011 жыл бұрын
I want to do this with Ron Swanson, then craft a fine canoe afterwards.
@MrPuppetMan211 жыл бұрын
Just pointing out, not trying to offend you, but that's actually the point of the cull, and why it happens at that time of year. In many Scottish Ecosystems, caribou have no natural predators (if you disclude man), so without the annual cull, caribou population gets too large, which is bad for the ecosystem.
@TheTarheelCharlie11 жыл бұрын
I'm confused if you guys watched the video, Alex constantly brings up that this is more humane than any of the animal farms.
@Z33Garage11 жыл бұрын
The bear was an example. The reason why sports (football, UFC, boxing, baseball, soccer etc) are sports is because both teams (ex hunter/ pray) have an equal chance of winning. Here's a better example, when a lioness hunts a hog, its not a sport its hunting (for food). The term "hunting for sport" is used mainly to justify killing an animal for ornamental, or "pride" reasons. I am an active shooter and the times where I have hunted, its been for food, not for trophies (aka sport).
@Tybeebee11 жыл бұрын
The amount of people commenting on this video that have never hunted astounds me.
@xVern11 жыл бұрын
The protein has nothing to do with it. Its how we had to learn to get it is what grew us. Here's a fun fact; If it wasn't for beer, we may still be hunters and gatherers.
@mmalinverno8911 жыл бұрын
i dont understand why people get so angry over hunting for food. its far more humane than how the vast majority of meat makes it to your table...
@TheAciar11 жыл бұрын
The Deer in Scotland are killed for a legitimate reason. They are too many. They have reach the point in their population where (if their numbers continue) the eco-system may be destroyed. Selling it for meat is probably the best thing to do afterwards then the death then it isn't just a pointless kill.
@ALXD197411 жыл бұрын
carnivores short intestines to pervent bacterial overgrow humans long intestines to digest fruits nuts plants.Teeth also proves it...You are not only ignorant you think you KNOW....What a combination....FACEPALM, you earned it
@alex2944311 жыл бұрын
this is a stupid comment, there are way too many deer in scotland, they are causing real problems and are preventing the spread of trees by eating the saplings. We either have to re-introduce wolves and/or bears or keep hunting lots of deer, seeing as hunting deer actually seems to bring some money in I'm all for it.
@AlwaysHaveaMontage11 жыл бұрын
I don't see what's so bad about this guy? In the comments section of every Vice video I see "hipster fag!", "douchebag journalist!", etc.. I've been scrutinizing the journalists pretty thoroughly over the last 20-30 videos, and, I have to say, I think it's the commentators rather than the journalist(s). These aren't top-notch reporters, but they're legitimate folks - and they get the job done.
@Monty004511 жыл бұрын
Can people stop arguing over whether we should or shouldn't eat meat... Arguing on a youtube video is going to change the world. Except my mood..
@PRPLxHEART11 жыл бұрын
its 12:00 AM. how the fxck am i suppose to sleep now.
@hellohello6666611 жыл бұрын
There is such quality on youtube these days
@oneofy11 жыл бұрын
the fact that you took the time to warn us is really delightful. futile, granted, but really quite nice.
@Tybeebee11 жыл бұрын
Nah man, every year every hunting season.. it's not just when there's overpopulation, it's to prevent overpopulation.
@DaveTheTuberx11 жыл бұрын
Without performing the process you just witnessed for thousands of years, your ancestors would have never lived long enough to give birth to more of your ancestors. Hunting IS in your blood whether you like it or not.
@mcpencil52411 жыл бұрын
But we absolutely cannot avoid talking about the moral side of things. That is the whole point of the discussion. The "wrongness" of humans hunting animals for the pleasure of eating their cooked flesh. The distinction between animals and plants is a legitimate one. The problem is, insects and other low lifeforms actually feel pain and have consciousness, and I'm confident that you kill those sometimes. It would be very morally wrong for you to kill the pet dog because it has a human owner.
@SpacemanXC11 жыл бұрын
Why is animal dressing considered graphic? No one seems to care when they slice through huge slabs of meat on the food channel. But if the animal is still somewhat intact it's graphic? Seems like a lame double standard.
@squat22411 жыл бұрын
Ben Franklin was not a vegetarian, and there remains no proof other than that he loved animals that Davinci was either.
@evan812511 жыл бұрын
I am not opposed to hunting animals. Humans have done this for 50,000 plus year. But when he was cutting open that dear, and we got to see the baby deer that was inside. My heart sank. I saw the shock on his face when he saw that baby deer. You could see he felt bad about that. I would to for that matter.
@jaynoz11 жыл бұрын
actually it's the other way around! in fact - if no one ate any meat, we could easily feed many more humans than there are right now because of all the food, water and infrastructure that goes into meat production!
@tehtourist11 жыл бұрын
If you've never killed an animal for sustenance then you aren't living up to your instinctual obligations. Farmers/hunters.
@Splengebab11 жыл бұрын
my sides just went up into orbit
@yescharliesurfs11 жыл бұрын
When you hit a ball out of bounds in cricket, you get six points. To be knocked for six is to be overcome.
@LotteBlueJays11 жыл бұрын
*calls rifle hunting unfair and easy* *has never hunted before* ^ Sound logic. Hunting is difficult. Using a bow is harder but it's not like bringing a rifle into the equation lets you take a dozen deer in a weekend in between beers.
@The_Osprey11 жыл бұрын
So when you ask her why she's crying she says, "It's nothing, I'm fine?"
@PeatCowman11 жыл бұрын
I don't hunt, personally. But i live in a pretty rural area in the south of England where the deer-population is widely regarded as 'overpopulated'. The problem is that they have no natural predators left, because we destroyed them all, because we were also prey at one point. Thus they breed and breed and destroy/take away food for other creatures, reducing the diversity of the eco-system. So, there is licensed culling.
@The_Osprey11 жыл бұрын
I guess what I'm getting at is, what is more traumatic to an unprepared mother: going ahead with the pregnancy or having an abortion?
@nelson111111 жыл бұрын
"we experience what some would say is the more disturbing part of the hunting and trapping process" Really? Good grief. I'm glad my ancestors weren't made of such "fluffy"uhhhh "stuff." We would have all died of starvation. What a poor excuse for manhood.
@drewkezalb902911 жыл бұрын
It's only a deer.You would eat one if you were starving.Hunting is not "wrong".Getting a piece of meat & unwrapping it from plastic & styrofoam doesn't allow you a connection or respect for your food source.
@barnetcohen11 жыл бұрын
i think vice should do a hunting series
@ninjakawasaki197211 жыл бұрын
Vice does it once again, dope documentaries till no end...
@moonasha11 жыл бұрын
yeah it does, in some places. Where I live, deer are such a danger while driving, hunters are the only thing that keep them in check. Wolves used to have that job, but they were all hunted away centuries ago. The deer thrived without them. My sister nearly died because of a deer accident. Then you have Australia, which is in danger of being turned into desert, because of rabbits. People NEED to kill them or else the land will DIE. Life is brutal. Hunting is better than slaughter houses.
@xVern11 жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong though, i am vegan. I support anyone who eats meat that isn't from a factory farmed. That doesn't destroy the earth, unlike how factory farming is currently. If you can raise your own cows, pigs, and chickens with feed, and all of the resources that its takes to do so, Good on ya. I'd rather not do so, and live just as well, you know?
@Fred561211 жыл бұрын
I didn't say I would do anything at all, it's pretty obvious by my post that I don't hunt. But still, thanks for the decent response, you bring up some good points unlike the many "smart" people on here.
@couar35111 жыл бұрын
You're right, i forgot to mention during over populated areas. That's why the special tags when over population occurs. My neighbor was fined last yr
@Fred561211 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest. I find hunting (for food) fair, but I disagree on the rifles. It's too easy to blow away something that can't shoot back from 1/2 a mile away and call it a "natural process". With this said I would never go hunting myself, I like the range more and I don't know how I'd feel about killing something with my own hands. To each his own.
@alex2944311 жыл бұрын
people overcome trauma, a kid has the capacity to effectiely ruin your life if you are in now way prepared for it. Just in terms of what is best for society, having some control over childbirth is clearly a good thing.
@marrickvillian11 жыл бұрын
I'm of celtic descent, never been to Scotland. This straight up made me homesick.
@ghoulars11 жыл бұрын
What is the problem? The deer lived free until it died... The industrial meat production on the other hand, is abhorrent (especially in the US)....
@sansde1ty4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can see the logic in only shooting mature stags. If I ever get to hunt deer I’d go for the mature stag, let the bucks get their end away and that foetus would have really freaked me out.
@Andylbod11 жыл бұрын
Mathias, why not research the topic instead of prevaricating on here. There is a healthy head of deer in Scotland which without any natural predation requires human intervention to maintain the habitat and believe it or not the health and welfare of the deer herds. Without this management then the deer population would explode and their health decline. Well put together footage with personal feelings making it real for all to see.
@MrToinou270611 жыл бұрын
thats not what i'm saying, hunting is normal, putting chickens in boxes to eat them shouldn't be, hunting isn't for fun
@undeadcatman11 жыл бұрын
It's so important to know where your food is coming from, and this video shows a side that you just dont think about when it's just food on your plate.
@FORWARDxUNTOxAWESOME11 жыл бұрын
Humans eat meat, Other predators eat meat. Only difference is the other predators don't bitch about it! Don't go vegan...simply stick to the natural sources of meats. Mass meat production is inhumane (generally speaking) so rather than preaching about this stuff on the internet, stop by your local farms, where you can purchase hormone-free, all-natural, humanely raised beef, pork, chicken, eggs, turkey, etc.
@Zoco.11 жыл бұрын
It's pretty fucking sick that we cause the death of other beings on this planet for our own gain
@ValhallaProduction1111 жыл бұрын
No they wouldn't, what do you think we did before cattle farming? We got together, took down a big ass animal, and ate it around a fire.
@The_Osprey11 жыл бұрын
If somebody cuts in front of me in traffic and causes me grief I can kill them? Raising a child isn't easy for anybody. Holding down a job so you can pay the bills isn't always easy. How would killing somebody make any of that any different? What if the father wants the child? If the mother can kill the baby why can't the father be allowed to disown the child if she has it and not be held financially responsible? Seems fair.
@user-dn8kg1yk6x11 жыл бұрын
I'm not even caucasian; thanks for showing me the true shallowness of your character believing your archaic stereotyping logic would pay off.
@M4sAREbest11 жыл бұрын
I love hunting, i'm a big hunterman here in Texas and I hunt White-Tail Deers. I say you are NOT a real man if you have never hunted an animal.
@weswally111 жыл бұрын
Who's the rookie intern you hired to record audio on this documentary? Apart from that, brilliant content throughout. Love Deer. Love Scotland. Love Vice.
@mcpencil52411 жыл бұрын
The reason that is wrong is that it's not motivated by anything but your own malice and bloodlust.
@xVern11 жыл бұрын
What's the difference in choosing to do that, or not to eat it at all? Why do you say not to go vegan, but to eat locally. Isn't that just your opinion? Why not let people be vegan if they feel like it?
@ReKaimelar11 жыл бұрын
Hunting is a skill; One you obviously lack; Should you ever find yourself lost in the wilderness, I'm sure you'll either a: starve, b: get killed by animals or c: eat a poisonous plant.
@Pvemaster211 жыл бұрын
I think this was a very informative documentary showing hunting as a way to be able to stay in such a remote region, presented in an objective way.
@cannabisPREVENTION11 жыл бұрын
I wish he'd stop using the terms "killer" and "murderer", it's creeping me out.
@likethis21311 жыл бұрын
It's a wild animal they are killing for food, yet you use a lot of emotive language to describe an act that man has done since it's infancy. I don't understand what you find so vile about a basic natural process that all carnivores participate in.