Liberal Latinos Debate Conservative Latinos on Immigration, Trump, and Racial Identity (Part 1/2)

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VICE

5 жыл бұрын

Liberal and conservative members of the Latinx community duke it out at the VICE Miami office.
What does it mean to be Latinx? Who voted for Trump, and why? How are his policies affecting the community? What should be done about the crisis at the border, should there be a wall? What does the American Dream look like for Latinx individuals?
01:32 Who here voted for Trump? Why?
02:27 Trump’s treatment of women and his "grab ‘em by the p***y" comment
06:01 Draining the Swamp: is Trump seen as "outside" of the political establishment?
06:53 What is the biggest misconception about members of the Latinx community who support Trump?
08:44 Is voting for Trump voting against the Latinx community?
10:22 Trump’s effect on the Latinx community
12:57 Are Donald Trump’s comments racist? Is Trump a racist?
14:41 Discrimination against indigenous peoples
15:49 How does everyone identify racially?
WATCH PART 2: • Latino Conservatives D...
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@VICE
@VICE 9 ай бұрын
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@NuaSOU
@NuaSOU 8 ай бұрын
Si pero por favor no nos llamen LatinX otra vez.
@aramiscolon9235
@aramiscolon9235 8 ай бұрын
I 😢
@blakers3194
@blakers3194 5 жыл бұрын
Putting a biased person in charge of a “non-biased” debate is the Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
@TinfoilHatWearer
@TinfoilHatWearer 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck ya.
@JustoFNG
@JustoFNG 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. What’s the point of this if the interviewer is biased? Vice is fucking stupid.
@Iburn247
@Iburn247 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@nasyahasabumutima7212
@nasyahasabumutima7212 5 жыл бұрын
which is exactly why moderates on both sides are so important. like how are you going to moderate a conversation if you’re not a moderate?????
@BF0202
@BF0202 5 жыл бұрын
@BRITTANY BOND how was it biased?
@Hallucinogenitals
@Hallucinogenitals 5 жыл бұрын
You know who never says “Latinx”?......actual Latinos and Latinas.
@fridamoreno4224
@fridamoreno4224 5 жыл бұрын
No one says it because that shit is unpronounceable 😅
@TeachableK9
@TeachableK9 5 жыл бұрын
I was a little confused at "latinx" I thought it was some kind of organization lol
@PabloCruise91
@PabloCruise91 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to abuela’s house and saying Latinx
@truthsofalostkid2301
@truthsofalostkid2301 5 жыл бұрын
Right lmfaoo like no one actually says that 😂🤦‍♀️
@jacobkraus7279
@jacobkraus7279 5 жыл бұрын
ya only fucking gringos say latinx and it annoys the shit outta me. they completely shit on our language in an attempt to be "PC".
@davidpalacios5670
@davidpalacios5670 Жыл бұрын
This debate was already being moderately biased before it even started , "members of the Latinx Community" 00:28
@floccinaucinihilipilificationn
@floccinaucinihilipilificationn Жыл бұрын
Fr lmfao
@spikefivefivefive
@spikefivefivefive Жыл бұрын
"The biggest voting block" in the US? Even if she counted illegals her claim would be false.
@igorrrr45247
@igorrrr45247 Жыл бұрын
It's vice...
@JorgeCanovas
@JorgeCanovas Жыл бұрын
“Racism happens to me everyday” as a mulatto skin Latin, this is a horrible way to live life. Hopefully that lady on the lower right can find peace with herself.
@RanFranklin
@RanFranklin Жыл бұрын
She said when she gets dressed there is racism hahaa damn she hates herself its reallllllllly sad to have your whole life revolved around your skin color. How the hell is getting dressed racist? That lady is a complete nut bag.
@pandarockets5328
@pandarockets5328 11 ай бұрын
I’m Mexican but consider myself just as an American. 42 years old, grew up in the “hood” in a predominantly Latin and black community. I’ve never experienced racism towards myself and it’s so odd to hear that coming from Latinos. I don’t know their situations so I will not speak for those. I just know that when I’m out in public, I’ve always conducted myself in a respectful manner and it seemed to have worked well in my life.
@yaritzafuentes2544
@yaritzafuentes2544 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@pandarockets5328es I was in the same situation, I lived in "the hood" that consisted of a predominately Latino and black community. I moved very early on to the suburbs. I am a 1st gen brown Mexican American and I moved to a predominantly white town, and I can say first hand ive always delt with racism. Being that I'm only 16 dealing with these issues everyday, they definitely affected my mental health. Latinos deal with racism everyday no matter where you live, but unfortunately like how they explained in this episode people don't target the white skinned latinos. You're very lucky to not have felt with these issues but so you are aware these actions are still very much happening to people all around the world and we as Latinos need to come together and stand against racism, for us and the poc community. Awareness will be the first step to a better society.
@GypsyInTheHood
@GypsyInTheHood 9 ай бұрын
Yeah. Messed up in the head.
@Kalinka589
@Kalinka589 4 ай бұрын
Lol what a crock of bull! You deal with racism everyday?! So everyday someone makes a comment,glares at you, etc? The victim mentality is staggering these days! 😂
@camcane1
@camcane1 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh,why they sitting behind each other? Have them sit in a circle or half circle so that they can actually look at one another without breaking a neck...
@valeriemacias6285
@valeriemacias6285 5 жыл бұрын
A comment we can agree on no matter our political beliefs 😂
@TheRealJohnHooper
@TheRealJohnHooper 5 жыл бұрын
True..
@nickdubbin2636
@nickdubbin2636 5 жыл бұрын
To stop physical violence
@cxc3060
@cxc3060 5 жыл бұрын
They’re taking to a mediator....the way you would in a debate
@nickdubbin2636
@nickdubbin2636 5 жыл бұрын
Also it limits eye contact. Lessens aggressive responses, same as dogs.
@johncarroll1270
@johncarroll1270 3 жыл бұрын
This mediator was horrible. The "black conservatives/liberals" host was much better.
@quorb
@quorb 3 жыл бұрын
straight up copy and pasted this comment but yeah it’s true😂
@esmeraldahernandez1018
@esmeraldahernandez1018 3 жыл бұрын
@@quorb right!🤣
@Felipe-wh7dp
@Felipe-wh7dp 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yea it was
@Brave_As_A_Mother
@Brave_As_A_Mother 3 жыл бұрын
It’s best when the host plays devil’s advocate and you can’t tell which side they’re on. My history teacher was like this and the thoughts his method invoked were always impactful
@Brave_As_A_Mother
@Brave_As_A_Mother 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to have a SSN to get welfare. I worked in Dept of public social services and now work in dept of health services. This guy sounds dumb
@Fe_lii
@Fe_lii Жыл бұрын
“So let’s all attack the Latinos that voted for Trump” - basically the moderator
@Davidpostingshid
@Davidpostingshid Жыл бұрын
“I don’t carry myself like that because I’m not a groupy” “So you think women are asking to get raped?” Holy straw-man , Batman!
@killer_piranha99x4
@killer_piranha99x4 Жыл бұрын
yeah no kidding goddamn
@killer_piranha99x4
@killer_piranha99x4 Жыл бұрын
@@ml6719 Me or Shid?
@TOXIN714
@TOXIN714 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that shouldn't happen but that's not what they talked about
@igorrrr45247
@igorrrr45247 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@AlexCastro1
@AlexCastro1 Жыл бұрын
liberal logic
@Mycenaea
@Mycenaea 3 жыл бұрын
Latinos in the video: we hate the term "latinx". VICE: Let's call them members of the latinx community in the intro!
@based256
@based256 3 жыл бұрын
The media is repulsive
@Nurse_Xochitl
@Nurse_Xochitl 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the media. Burn them all!
@awedsy3195
@awedsy3195 2 жыл бұрын
also call them "conservative"
@WrongNumber76
@WrongNumber76 2 жыл бұрын
As a “””””latinx””””” i hate the damn latinx word
@onlyclubberlang3927
@onlyclubberlang3927 2 жыл бұрын
The phrase "Latin x" is so white liberal I don't think there is a proper way to pronounce "Latin x" in Spanish. LIBERALS are a bunch of silly goose
@thenishiz599
@thenishiz599 5 жыл бұрын
That girl just said she experiences racism every single day all day long...even when she's getting dressed! What the hell does that mean!?
@dee_irawan
@dee_irawan 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe she's racist toward herself? That's why she sees racism everywhere.
@blueravenchick
@blueravenchick 5 жыл бұрын
@@dee_irawan She has a bad attitude is probably why why people treat her badly???
@MegMelise
@MegMelise 5 жыл бұрын
I JUST said that! What is she talking about
@MegMelise
@MegMelise 5 жыл бұрын
@@blueravenchick yeah, has to be
@cecilroberts1971
@cecilroberts1971 5 жыл бұрын
Shes not being literal. She means she deals with racism from all sides....being a black and Latina woman. She was definitely dismissive but I think its because she wanted to get her point across with no interruptions. And did not want others talking over her. As such her sarcasm wasn't needed and she came off snarky!
@Ilayshaa
@Ilayshaa Жыл бұрын
The lady in the orange’s attitude is overshadowing her point. This is why they think we’re so angry bc we don’t know how to address people respectfully without all of the attitude
@sm1purplmurderedme583
@sm1purplmurderedme583 11 ай бұрын
just feeding into the stereotype fr
@JustGotSomeIdeas
@JustGotSomeIdeas 9 ай бұрын
You’d think when everyone thinks one thing about you, you’d try you’re very best to not do that thing.
@B_addie
@B_addie 5 ай бұрын
@@sm1purplmurderedme583it’s crazy how every one has an attitude at one point yet y’all only chose one person to be the example of an angry stereotype
@Scar-jg4bn
@Scar-jg4bn 5 ай бұрын
​@@B_addie she was by far the most disrespectful and literally said she deals with racism getting dressed, lmao.
@seekingtruth6822
@seekingtruth6822 Жыл бұрын
"Again my family's been here for before 1492 we've been here for millions of years" That is a long time. 🤔
@narlywaves2371
@narlywaves2371 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😭😭 Math isnt a lot of people's strong point.
@Vimukta
@Vimukta Жыл бұрын
@@narlywaves2371 seems comprehension ain't yours 🤡. he meant its been quite a while.
@ninahndz5880
@ninahndz5880 Жыл бұрын
@@Vimukta then that's what should have been said, not 'millions' of years
@Vimukta
@Vimukta Жыл бұрын
@@ninahndz5880 that is the problem. you guys are so fixating on words rather than where its coming from. empathy goes a long way.
@andrewsmith9980
@andrewsmith9980 Жыл бұрын
the millions years comment comes down to your religious belief. If you believe in Pangea then millions of years is possible.
@vidowatcher91
@vidowatcher91 5 жыл бұрын
"Racism is a part of my every day life" "How" "LET ME FINISH. Racism is a part of my every day life and that's why it is a part of my every day life"
@jok7010
@jok7010 5 жыл бұрын
The least educated people in the room are Trump supporters.
@Mr._Moderate
@Mr._Moderate 5 жыл бұрын
@Jason Karl you're too myopic and simplistic 💁‍♂️
@julianwilliams4554
@julianwilliams4554 5 жыл бұрын
@@jok7010 how
@deadislander0167
@deadislander0167 5 жыл бұрын
Jo K god, are you stupid?? the liberals couldn’t put up one good point
@Mr._Moderate
@Mr._Moderate 5 жыл бұрын
@Jason Karl "... Views everything through a lense" now you know why they say they are marginalized. It's no accident that she is also the darkest one of the group. She's probably been through hell.
@usycyakbmbk3709
@usycyakbmbk3709 5 жыл бұрын
*This moderator should not be interjecting and responding to others like she does. Her job is to listen and ask questions, not refute/support the speakers*
@xxSup3rMarioxx
@xxSup3rMarioxx 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@lifewitholga_
@lifewitholga_ 5 жыл бұрын
Right! She's a moderator its in her title
@ChulsZFF
@ChulsZFF 5 жыл бұрын
Vice does this though. Of the videos I've watched are biased. They don't have a true moderator.
@ESUSAMEX
@ESUSAMEX 5 жыл бұрын
She is the daughter of Jorge Ramos who works for Univision. She also worked for Clinton's failed campaign against Trump. She's as corrupt as her bastard father.
@OrdieBoomBoom87
@OrdieBoomBoom87 5 жыл бұрын
What do you expect? It's not like vice is unbiased. It's very clear where they stand.
@missmanners62
@missmanners62 5 ай бұрын
good lord this aged badly. i'd love to see an update with these same people; although, from what's available on twitter, they'll cling to their nonsense.
@Mars-kk8ch
@Mars-kk8ch Жыл бұрын
The woman in orange clearly doesn't experience racism everyday and if she does, she's one of those that tries hard to be offended by every little thing.
@Vicky-by2hq
@Vicky-by2hq Жыл бұрын
Her demeanor is very aggressive. Of course people are going to gravitate away from her. it’s not the color of her skin, it’s her personality
@cecilequeen3117
@cecilequeen3117 Жыл бұрын
IKR, lately some people feel racism only by the fact that their skin I colored, I don't care how you looks, I care about respect, freedom, justice and goo values
@CryingOrc1
@CryingOrc1 Ай бұрын
Cuz she’s Negreta Latina
@catalinalongoria2514
@catalinalongoria2514 4 жыл бұрын
The interviewer is very biased & clearly expressed anger when Trump is defended by a conservative. Vice is de-"VICSIVE"!🤣
@bloatedgains600
@bloatedgains600 4 жыл бұрын
Catalina Longoria You moron, Vice is a left wing journal - that’s the audience they cater to, dumbass Cuban conservative.
@annielongoria
@annielongoria 4 жыл бұрын
Ayye we have the same last name! lol sorry, I just had to say something. Also, A+ play on words 👍😂
@JS-th2ev
@JS-th2ev 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah never said who did everyone vote for, instead who voted for Trump.
@conspiracytheory9525
@conspiracytheory9525 4 жыл бұрын
When someone talked about the record low minority unemployment she had to get it started under Obama line in.
@seamen5385
@seamen5385 4 жыл бұрын
She never explained how she experiences racism through getting dressed
@danjuan325
@danjuan325 4 жыл бұрын
FREE NUTT right!
@heathermcdougall2399
@heathermcdougall2399 4 жыл бұрын
That's easy to answer - clothes is rassiss.
@gabrielescobar9707
@gabrielescobar9707 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing that big black ass
@patrickayers259
@patrickayers259 4 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss. I'm sure the owner of the clothing lines she wears are racist so it trickles down to her. *Puts on sock.* god this country is so racist and cries.
@marvinromelus4846
@marvinromelus4846 4 жыл бұрын
Im a black person and I think that shes crazy
@mummler
@mummler Жыл бұрын
I would love it if you interviewed all of these people now, now that things are so different. See who has or who has not changed there stance/ opinion.
@CarmenPerez-pe8lr
@CarmenPerez-pe8lr 5 жыл бұрын
That's unfair why you put 6 liberals against 3 conservatives?
@lizziemartin6113
@lizziemartin6113 5 жыл бұрын
They did that because Liberals are numbers people. They can't hold up their end of the convo because they are so wrong. So they need a mob.
@AlecWyld
@AlecWyld 5 жыл бұрын
To balance out the scale. :P
@rondelmoore7130
@rondelmoore7130 5 жыл бұрын
All 6 of them aren't liberals.
@OurLadyLaLa
@OurLadyLaLa 5 жыл бұрын
They’re in New York City talking to minorities...they probably couldn’t find more conservatives
@jkmarblejk7445
@jkmarblejk7445 5 жыл бұрын
Lo or none that wanted to be on this stupid show.
@ericzgrey
@ericzgrey 5 жыл бұрын
Well that was garbage. Nice fake neutrality from the moderator.
@beauteafulyou1616
@beauteafulyou1616 5 жыл бұрын
Right? What an embarrassment..
@dominicbuck3744
@dominicbuck3744 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, the side of her head is shaved, that tells us everything we need to know about her politics
@tylerbattlespear4207
@tylerbattlespear4207 5 жыл бұрын
2:15 the moderator like I'm triggered
@dominicbuck3744
@dominicbuck3744 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂 I could not for the life of me decide what douchy role he could play, but I’m from the real Reno and he can play like 3 people that I actually know 😂
@dominicbuck3744
@dominicbuck3744 5 жыл бұрын
Oh ya, 2:15 triggered her
@Humanofplanetearth
@Humanofplanetearth Жыл бұрын
WE NEED A PART 2
@purplemoonshower
@purplemoonshower Жыл бұрын
Would be great to do a follow-up on all of these characters to see if they still hold the same views and opinions to this day
@selenaodonnell5415
@selenaodonnell5415 Жыл бұрын
The top right lady, Linda Catalina, has the same views. She’s on social media and does a podcast called ‘mostly peaceful Latinas’
@shake707
@shake707 5 жыл бұрын
It's so funny how Vice will stage these "diverse" conversations, but will then be blatantly biased in their questioning and responses from the interviewer.
@kh5735
@kh5735 5 жыл бұрын
That's Jorge Ramos's daughter, that's why.
@kh5735
@kh5735 5 жыл бұрын
BTW this interviewer campaigned heavily for Hilary. Jorge loved bragging about his daughter hanging out with her.
@themajesticspider-man6116
@themajesticspider-man6116 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really know why 'diverse' is in quotations in your comment like you're being sarcastic, when the the discussion was *literally* filled with diverse opinions. Lol
@shake707
@shake707 5 жыл бұрын
@@themajesticspider-man6116 there was very little diversity of ideas
@SPKR1
@SPKR1 5 жыл бұрын
Vice, Vox, and the mainstream media control the narrative unfortunately
@deadpoolrp
@deadpoolrp 5 жыл бұрын
"If they say no, you have no right to touch them." Exactly. They didn't say no.
@eddierodriguez3472
@eddierodriguez3472 5 жыл бұрын
deadpoolrp And yet, she implies that it is okay for her to put her “Tetas” on a man & rub on him but the opposite is wrong! WTF! Double standards much!
@johnetanpitaluga89
@johnetanpitaluga89 5 жыл бұрын
The heavy girl went completely off topic. I'm like are you listening.
@googlyeyedcat
@googlyeyedcat 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't say yes either.
@deadpoolrp
@deadpoolrp 5 жыл бұрын
@@googlyeyedcat affirmative consent is a relatively new thing. It used to be that folks could actually have spontaneous, organic romantic relationships. "No means no" was the rule. If you don't like something or don't want to do something, you say no.
@jmsparger4339
@jmsparger4339 5 жыл бұрын
Princess MooMoo in the pink circus tent just mad cause ain't no one grabbin in her part of the world.. 🤣 😭-"nobody wants to play with me"
@mariaavakian4910
@mariaavakian4910 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Facts: I am from Mexico and realize Mexico has no Indian reservations. Therefore its impossible to have a border wall to divide them . Also Mexico does not allow people to cross at any unauthorized border crossings . U.S. Citizenship requires a minimum of 5 years of legal residence. Illegals should be granted legal residence , not citizenship . They also should have to pay a fine and wait an addition 10 years,
@frisco9568
@frisco9568 5 ай бұрын
México doesn’t have any Indian reservations bc they live amongst society, and if they don’t they have their own predominant villages/towns/cities.
@matinazadeh6870
@matinazadeh6870 Жыл бұрын
Respectful discussion is the key to finding the truth
@forsure2283
@forsure2283 4 жыл бұрын
Bottom right chick needs to drop that victim mentality.
@CryingOrc1
@CryingOrc1 Ай бұрын
She can’t. She Negreta Latina
@johnappleseed452
@johnappleseed452 4 жыл бұрын
The first question should have been "who is a conservative/liberal" not "who voted for Trump"
@annalyssaloya3751
@annalyssaloya3751 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@joggyjames
@joggyjames 4 жыл бұрын
you should hold you own debate and make that the first question you ask.
@Jse0607
@Jse0607 4 жыл бұрын
I could pick out 2 of the liberals from the start lol
@bluelion7342
@bluelion7342 4 жыл бұрын
I caught that too. That sets a wrong frame for the discussion. And frames the discussion of the panel participants having to defend their vote for Trump
@nani0malik0ar
@nani0malik0ar Жыл бұрын
The guy in the orange shirt and glasses was my favorite. It makes me so happy to see another independent who understands the gravity of making things into a binary system. How anyone thinks that billions of people can fit into these tiny boxes that have zero nuance or diversity is beyond me.
@helenrodriguez9891
@helenrodriguez9891 Жыл бұрын
Omg please do not tell me you believed for a second that guy was independent. Didn’t you hear he said : “I’m an independent who leans more to the left “ . That’s not being an independent that being a leftist . Total contradiction. Not to mention that the binary sys is put in place because it’s more simple / practical and it is in fact how the human brain make connections. Is so crazy how some people can use semantics to make it seem like they are giving this meaningful knowledgeable speech when is just pure ignorance
@CeLticFire1251
@CeLticFire1251 11 ай бұрын
The guy in orange is the exact type of person who will pursue a career in education-one of the lowest paying fields-then complain about teachers not being paid enough.
@zaldigr863
@zaldigr863 6 ай бұрын
@@CeLticFire1251 I like how you think making an assumption about someone you literally don't know is somehow a "gotcha", but anyway, i see you on every vice video commenting stupid stuff, so, i'm not surprised really.
@dolphin8815
@dolphin8815 5 жыл бұрын
7 leftist.. 2 conservatives. I see your bias, vIcE
@jane2141
@jane2141 4 жыл бұрын
King Bob there are no leftists in the U.S. these are center.
@triggered577
@triggered577 4 жыл бұрын
King Bob That ratio emulates the overall political patterns of Latinx voters though. Generally speaking, anywhere between 60-70 % tend to vote Democratic so this focus group isn’t really off.
@soniag4516
@soniag4516 4 жыл бұрын
@@jane2141 There is no center in the US, that cat ran away with Hillary's donkey
@soniag4516
@soniag4516 4 жыл бұрын
The Blacks were 3C's out of nine so these are the people who are shaping our future--Black and Brown libturds
@DannyBananyGoesWild
@DannyBananyGoesWild 4 жыл бұрын
@@soniag4516 what a classy way of putting things. I'd rather be 10 libturds than having to put up with your inferiority complex.
@NoFutureZine
@NoFutureZine 5 жыл бұрын
"I have to deal with racism every second of every day" "Can you expand on that" "Yes I deal with racism every second of every day" ....
@NoFutureZine
@NoFutureZine 5 жыл бұрын
I mean they might be right, they might be wrong. They are not proving anything by not providing evidence. They are just repeating a vague statement.
@joshuafrescas5899
@joshuafrescas5899 5 жыл бұрын
Its easy to dismiss for you guys because it isn’t something you’ve ever had to deal with. You don’t know what its like for cops to assume your guilty until you can prove that your innocent, you don’t know what it’s like to be a scapegoat for a white dudes problems, and whats worse is you don’t try to understand. I’ve tried explaining these issues before but I get dismissed anyways. No matter how much I try to make people like you understand, you refuse to because you don’t want to acknowledge that there is a problem.
@ghostfjdgcsusvsgsj
@ghostfjdgcsusvsgsj 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuafrescas5899 you need to stop whining and grow up! Life isn't all about emotions
@joshuafrescas5899
@joshuafrescas5899 5 жыл бұрын
Yo Otame, these aren’t emotions I’m afraid. What I laid out for you was an idea of how marginalized people live in his country. And you just proved my point because you don’t bother trying to understand. Great job there pendejo.
@ghostfjdgcsusvsgsj
@ghostfjdgcsusvsgsj 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuafrescas5899 I think you don't bother to stop looking at yourself as the victim.
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 2 жыл бұрын
"Been here for millions of years.." Bro - WHAT!? LMAO!!
@summerskyes1831
@summerskyes1831 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the people on the top right (brown shirt girl & guy next to her) identify themselves as white is mind blowing to me LOL 16:17 … makes more sense to why they feel the way they do.
@ioneil1808
@ioneil1808 5 жыл бұрын
Liberal: “So you’re pretty much saying...”
@colmos88
@colmos88 5 жыл бұрын
ioneil1 😂😂😂😂
@pinkfurryhat
@pinkfurryhat 5 жыл бұрын
All liberals do this hahaha
@notsofloppyflop7451
@notsofloppyflop7451 5 жыл бұрын
So true
@davehedric1543
@davehedric1543 5 жыл бұрын
Strawman and cherry picking arguments. That's all they do.
@pixelgirl843
@pixelgirl843 5 жыл бұрын
Its called steelmaning.
@cookiemonster0956
@cookiemonster0956 5 жыл бұрын
"I experience racism everyday..." "Ok where do you experience tha....." "Excuse me, can I finish please? Thanks.... I eat, sleep, and live with racism" "Ok but where tho" "Please stop interrupting me, I'll get to that" Never gets to it.
@winlea78
@winlea78 5 жыл бұрын
jeremycookmusic I know right? I’m black and don’t experience that. You’d think she’s living in the Jim Crow south
@arcguardian
@arcguardian 4 жыл бұрын
It's very telling of where their mind is and isn't. No one in that room addressed that, that's on the moderator ultimately, after all the others tried to call her out.
@dmkirk6685
@dmkirk6685 4 жыл бұрын
She also said getting dressed. Maybe she should kick out her room mate if they are treating her with such disdain! It could just also be her attitude, she talked down to others while her body language and words were disrespectful! Sad really!
@jhdjhd2641
@jhdjhd2641 4 жыл бұрын
The Screaming Introvert exactly
@kikodicaffe4187
@kikodicaffe4187 4 жыл бұрын
She was so annoying....such a diva air...
@So-what692
@So-what692 Жыл бұрын
Wow learned so much💯
@kermitdagangster1012
@kermitdagangster1012 Жыл бұрын
STOP CALLING US LATINX 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮!!!!
@charlesdinguss
@charlesdinguss 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus, would be an idea to get relatively intelligent people to debate.
@nemlean5025
@nemlean5025 5 жыл бұрын
thank you, i was thinking the exact same thing. They all agree relatively on the same ideology but they have to find something to argue about.
@MexiPanda
@MexiPanda 5 жыл бұрын
TubeYou saids a guy with the name TubeYou. A true genius. Lol
@JimmyKillem69
@JimmyKillem69 5 жыл бұрын
there was a debate? i was kinda distracted looking at the chick top right
@jjjj-bb8gn
@jjjj-bb8gn 5 жыл бұрын
TubeYou exactly what I was thinking. Not going to lie though, the liberals definitely sound an assload of stupid at some points.
@devinb3172
@devinb3172 5 жыл бұрын
That’s much rarer than you believe, especially in here in America
@dougwestling4526
@dougwestling4526 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the conservatives are always outnumbered on these panels. How about equaling the playing field so they get shut down with every statement.
@ewp1
@ewp1 5 жыл бұрын
Doug Westling but this is an accurate representation of how statistically speaking Latinos vote. Either way it was 4 right leaning vs 5 left leaning people
@dougwestling4526
@dougwestling4526 5 жыл бұрын
@@ewp1 I didn't think of that prospective thanks
@baileyy8857
@baileyy8857 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and the interviewer has maddd bias
@ewp1
@ewp1 5 жыл бұрын
Sai Acharya I have to agree with you on that one
@breetgodbayhhhe
@breetgodbayhhhe 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter the number if you got the evidence and factual statistics to back your claim! Donald Trump is a racist liar and his followers ill believe anything!
@DJSpinczar
@DJSpinczar Жыл бұрын
I always love the idea of "what do you want to ask the trump voters"...idk what happens in part 2 yet...but do the trump voters get to ask the others why THEY voted the way they did?
@Marco-lx3nx
@Marco-lx3nx Жыл бұрын
The term LatinX is extremely offensive
@ravenwillow6079
@ravenwillow6079 4 жыл бұрын
"When you think everything is racist, it dilutes real racism" No truer words have been sooken 👏👏
@gentrybrown2032
@gentrybrown2032 4 жыл бұрын
whats real racism? lol... that guy deserved a scowl...
@AdamMM-hq3gv
@AdamMM-hq3gv 4 жыл бұрын
@@gentrybrown2032 Viewing an entire race as inferior to another or one's own.
@fenryblenk5541
@fenryblenk5541 4 жыл бұрын
but then wasn't able to actually define racism...
@joggyjames
@joggyjames 4 жыл бұрын
nonsense, you see how he started stuttering and couldn't even define racism.
@ravenwillow6079
@ravenwillow6079 4 жыл бұрын
@@joggyjames wait... do really need someone to define racism to you? WE ALL should know the definition of it and if you dont? Then you really need to crawl back under that rock you came out of...my statement still stands. .no truer words have been spoken!!!
@davidj2829
@davidj2829 4 жыл бұрын
Question: are we all pretending like this host isn't a liberal?
@seth5143
@seth5143 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, because dumbass lefties think any position to the Right of full-blown Stalinism but still WAY Far Left is moderate/centrist. Meanwhile any actual centrist/moderate is a "bigot" & anyone an inch to the Right is a horrible Nazi who deserves to be punched in the face.
@jeremysteinacker4889
@jeremysteinacker4889 3 жыл бұрын
You know Vice supports full on Marxism, right? They never claim to be centrist. The least she could do was shut her fucking mouth though and just ask the questions and listen.
@thepinupbeat8694
@thepinupbeat8694 3 жыл бұрын
There were like 3 conservatives, which hardly had speaking time, you could tell they cut their parts out.
@monasharma2022
@monasharma2022 3 жыл бұрын
Questions: are all hosts apolitical?
@panda_dva2261
@panda_dva2261 3 жыл бұрын
The channel uses "Latinx" at the very beginning. So you know this is a liberal thing from the straight beginning. As a native spanish speaker from mexico, i can say that spanish is a very masculine and feminine worded language. You cannot slap an X on it and call it a day it dont work like that. Spanish is not english. English is very "all gendered" language with words like they them their. But spanish is a romance language, it doesnt have terms like that. Please respect the language and the history behind it.
@punklover99
@punklover99 11 ай бұрын
As an American Mexican(2nd Gen American born to Mexican parents) i hate the term latinx, it's not a real word I didn't vote for Trump but i agreed with more of his policies than Biden or Clinton. I vote on principles rather than a person with a letter next to their name
@rowoods6021
@rowoods6021 Жыл бұрын
“What frustrates me is that Donald Trump said that “Some are good people” ..the 2 girl Trump supports: Some are good ppl .. “ No most are good people” !!!! Preach sir
@predatedsteam96secondchann97
@predatedsteam96secondchann97 4 жыл бұрын
Why is the host always cutting off the conservatives when they are talking, but allows more speech time when the liberals are discussing? Now that’s biased
@xImBeaST12321x
@xImBeaST12321x 4 жыл бұрын
She really isn't 😂
@supersonicplush8858
@supersonicplush8858 4 жыл бұрын
Because it’s ViCE. Part of the liberal machine.
@FASBLAQUE
@FASBLAQUE 4 жыл бұрын
@@supersonicplush8858 But you're here listening.
@ramzeegonzalez9545
@ramzeegonzalez9545 4 жыл бұрын
She is tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheWakeupandsk8
@TheWakeupandsk8 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Zimmerman oh hell yea man he is great and i enjoyed watching his videos
@martinr.1482
@martinr.1482 3 жыл бұрын
Meh, the black conservative/liberals host was more neutral. This lady is just plain biased, but what can you expect from VICE
@mariojudahsdad7333
@mariojudahsdad7333 3 жыл бұрын
Ok when they made the KKK vs crips vs city council that was fucking amazing now they’re so fucking biased whenever the kkk was talking they sat and listened to the bullshit WHICH IS WHAT A JOURNALIST DOES whenever they called the German biker gang a Nazi club after they denied being nazis I knew they were taking a poor turn
@embearasedbear3694
@embearasedbear3694 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariojudahsdad7333 to be fair the klan might actually have a lot right kust their taticts are totally off
@CVert151
@CVert151 2 жыл бұрын
@@embearasedbear3694 Are you serious?
@CVert151
@CVert151 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariojudahsdad7333 I’m not sure why the KKK was given a platform to begin with.
@embearasedbear3694
@embearasedbear3694 2 жыл бұрын
@@CVert151 yeah, might wanna go reread what they said. Agree alot with Malcolm X. But I wouldn't expect Vice viewers to do too much reading. Have fun clutching pearls tho.
@thurstonpowell8687
@thurstonpowell8687 Жыл бұрын
I remember the old movies in the 60's with the judicial council of the universe where some had 3 eyeballs, others 6 arms, but all gather around the universal council.
@emiliasanz713
@emiliasanz713 Жыл бұрын
15:44 the guy in the orange shirt legit lowkey roasting the guy talking ahaha.
@tiffany4628
@tiffany4628 5 жыл бұрын
Wish it was more balanced. It was 6 vs. 3 The interviewer wasn't neutral either.
@bemore7410
@bemore7410 5 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing but the top right "white" homie girl seemed like she may have evolved her political position since the presidential election. Goes to show that more people are migrating from the left to the right than vis versa.
@jmacron4652
@jmacron4652 5 жыл бұрын
@@bemore7410 That is Wholly not True...Voters are moving from the Right to the Left....Did you even pay attention to the 2018 Election.....
@elouiseking5297
@elouiseking5297 5 жыл бұрын
@@jmacron4652 Sorry, I disagree. I use to be a brainwashed dem, not anymore.
@mtndewit
@mtndewit 5 жыл бұрын
Course not she works for vice no fkn chance she's neutral.
@wildnites558
@wildnites558 5 жыл бұрын
Same with polls. Read the metrics on many of these big-time public opinion polls about Trump and you discover the Democrat respondents outnumber the GOP respondents by at least 2 to 1. That's why the Democrats nearly always come out looking good in the polls, the polling organizations specifically set about to poll more Democrats than Republicans. And that's why in 2016 Hillary won in all the opinion polls but Trump won the actual election.
@swift_stix-tre9594
@swift_stix-tre9594 5 жыл бұрын
People who preach against racism, always make things about race.
@chadbear8759
@chadbear8759 5 жыл бұрын
Racism is a made up word meant to divide the people that the political class rules. I always laugh, why do you think “spelling” is called “spelling” all words are spells used to control
@fredblank3720
@fredblank3720 4 жыл бұрын
That's true of the fake, made-up, "reverse racism" but not real racism.
@totalannihilationfitness6473
@totalannihilationfitness6473 4 жыл бұрын
@@chadbear8759 I see I've found a fellow JLP listener haha
@poowawatv6178
@poowawatv6178 4 жыл бұрын
do u seriously not believe racism is in the system? plz look it up with an open mind, the government constantly admits and even officially apologizes for racism....wtf
@poowawatv6178
@poowawatv6178 4 жыл бұрын
@Ana Clara how do u guys get wifi in backwards land
@machone539
@machone539 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with illegal immigrants is they jump the line to get citizenship. A number of my family members who immigrated LEGALLY had to wait 3 + years while folks they work with who were ONCE illegal immigrants got their citizenship sooner. Show me anyone who has been in line at the supermarket or DMV and see someone just go to the front of the line know how frustrating it feels.
@MakeuSquirt300
@MakeuSquirt300 Жыл бұрын
Illegal immigrants can’t jump the “line” for them to get a citizenship they need to leave the US for at least 10 Year’s, Don’t comment on things u Don’t know
@machone539
@machone539 Жыл бұрын
@@MakeuSquirt300 Riiiiight. Guess you don't know about the amnesty the GOV had awhile back.
@Mom_of_the_Chickies
@Mom_of_the_Chickies Жыл бұрын
Mmm take that up with the United States. They’re the one who decides the quota from each country. They decide which country is more beneficial to accept. It’s all political
@Vic82toire
@Vic82toire 9 ай бұрын
That is a tired and not very effective argument. Do you seriously think illegal immigrants who come to the US get automatic rights and citizenship as people who legally migrate??? They don't. I think with your example of illegal immigrants getting citizenship sooner than your family members, you're not telling the full story or you're ignorant of the whole story. Even when an illegal immigrant marries someone who is an American citizen, it's not an automatic, "Here's your green card!" because the fact that they entered the country illegally is a huge mountain to overcome. There's a whole long process with that, that may include leaving the country. Asylum seekers might get accelerated work permits. And they are a different category. Illegal immigrants come and they don't get a fast track to any kind of legal status. You know why? Because there's nothing in the books. If there were, they wouldn't be illegal. They usually get low-paying menial jobs, a lot pay taxes through TIN numbers, get no insurance, no security, no pension, and they're usually scared of relying on police. Everyone's story is different and not everyone has the same opportunities. The playing field isn't level. So read up on this nuanced issue and stop giving standard issue answers that don't require critical thinking skills. I believe in the law and I don't think open borders are the answer. But the ignorance around this issue won't help anyone.
@machone539
@machone539 9 ай бұрын
@@Vic82toire hahahahaha. hahahaah. hahahaha. Wait one more. hahahaahah. Show me any LEGAL immigrants getting free hotel and food? Special right #1. Amnesty for illegals (Non-LPR Cancellation of Removal aka instant green card) special right #2. Free trip to NYC, Chicago, Martha's Vineyard. Special right #3. So there you have it. All the crap from you is just diarrhea of the mouth.
@user-bg6kz7ci7q
@user-bg6kz7ci7q Жыл бұрын
I’m black and I identify as white 😂😂😂😂😂
@undergroundgamer5717
@undergroundgamer5717 5 жыл бұрын
Some of these guys just couldn't fathom that a latino voted for trump 🤦‍♂️
@MADNEWYORKER914
@MADNEWYORKER914 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck Trump!!!
@PARCE93
@PARCE93 5 жыл бұрын
Trae Thibodeaux Shut the fuck up you inbred
@mikerude7691
@mikerude7691 5 жыл бұрын
PARCE93 shut up pussy
@isaacreyes7589
@isaacreyes7589 5 жыл бұрын
@@MADNEWYORKER914 naw bro, Trump is your Daddy since you didn't grow up with one, it's not his fault your dad left your mom and family, Trump is a good man you should look up to him and get your shit together and move out of that tiny roach apartment and do something with your life, Trump added so many Good jobs there is no more excuse for you
@changed9047
@changed9047 5 жыл бұрын
@@MADNEWYORKER914 , fuck you homie! Mexican here for Trump! Uneducated Yorker that can only use 2 words!
@fleurdelamb661
@fleurdelamb661 4 жыл бұрын
None of these question got anywhere. Totally worthless, and one sided. And the women on the bottom right, was trying too hard to be angry at everything
@runhomie1013
@runhomie1013 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 big facts
@ladygabrielle36
@ladygabrielle36 4 жыл бұрын
Smarty pants, the questions were questions that everyone not caught up in Trump are asking. Smh live in the real world.
@mfgunit
@mfgunit 4 жыл бұрын
She is a drama queen. You can tell the way she tells others to be quite how "oppressed" she is. What a bitch.
@kyleevans8821
@kyleevans8821 4 жыл бұрын
Shaunee Ericksen-Lamb and she was rude as hell
@deborahbishop3300
@deborahbishop3300 4 жыл бұрын
Waste of time . The word Racist is thrown around to much and is NOW used out of context these days .
@annealcorn105
@annealcorn105 Жыл бұрын
If The dude in the Gray sweatshirt doesn't want to call America home,. He can go back home. You're either all in or you're out.
@Turin69
@Turin69 Жыл бұрын
Bring this back and do a recap
@j.s.bachbwv5823
@j.s.bachbwv5823 5 жыл бұрын
"My family has been here since 1492, we've been here for millions of years." Boi.
@j.s.bachbwv5823
@j.s.bachbwv5823 5 жыл бұрын
Is it any less dumb if it were casual?
@lewb.8619
@lewb.8619 5 жыл бұрын
@Finn there are nobody in this continent who is "indigenous" , everybody came from somewhere including the "natives" [Asia].
@j.s.bachbwv5823
@j.s.bachbwv5823 5 жыл бұрын
@@lewb.8619 Exactly. There were two sub-races of Slavic/Mongolian "natives" before the stereotypical "native Americans" people know today. The great bridge connected to what is now known as Alaska, which makes "Eskimos" more closely related to the original "natives."
@GoldenSte
@GoldenSte 5 жыл бұрын
Lew B. How convenient for you.
@j.s.bachbwv5823
@j.s.bachbwv5823 5 жыл бұрын
In any area but Africa, yet the premise is still valid.
@joshua_J
@joshua_J 4 жыл бұрын
The woman on the bottom right is absolutely so self entitled it's crazy.
@poowawatv6178
@poowawatv6178 4 жыл бұрын
she could be our next president, these personalities get too far from comfort, idc what side theyre on its dangerous
@Lost-mb1gj
@Lost-mb1gj 4 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@timthrnton4837
@timthrnton4837 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lost-mb1gj did you watch the video...? obviously the one on far right.
@monsterwatchtruecrime
@monsterwatchtruecrime 4 жыл бұрын
She is the type of woman that isn’t actually Latino but decided to identify that way to tell her opinion
@nandotrt8737
@nandotrt8737 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lost-mb1gj I think the black latina. She was really condescending and it annoyed the crap out of me.
@UberOwl
@UberOwl Жыл бұрын
9:55 god what an awful person she is. She kept interrupting the girl next to her and talked over her, but when it’s her turn to talk, she DEMANDS the stage, because she is the center of the universe. How *DARE* them interrupt her when *SHE* is speaking?! 🤬
@goattalk9473
@goattalk9473 Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that people who disagree are having a discussion, but VICE tends to have moderators who clearly have a particular position. It’s evident with some of the editing and how the moderators pick and choose when to add modifiers to the participants’ dialogue during and exchange. It would be nice to have one of these panels where the majority held a more conservative viewpoint on politics. The conservatives are typically always the minority (ironically) during the debates.
@JB-bj7ix
@JB-bj7ix 5 жыл бұрын
This feels more like interrogation of Trump supporters. Who voted for Trump? Do any of you want to say anything to them? And that girl on the right end of the bottom right - obnoxious.
@samanthaoconnor1084
@samanthaoconnor1084 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Bunting oh my goodness they are sooooo oppressed!
@samanthaoconnor1084
@samanthaoconnor1084 5 жыл бұрын
Adelyn Bennett you don’t sound so sure? do you only ask questions? or do you know how to use a period? or comprehend the most basic level of humor? sarcasm?
@horrorqueen3577
@horrorqueen3577 5 жыл бұрын
@@samanthaoconnor1084 lol best comment
@JB-bj7ix
@JB-bj7ix 5 жыл бұрын
@@samanthaoconnor1084 who called the Grammer police.
@haliax8149
@haliax8149 5 жыл бұрын
@@samanthaoconnor1084 Too bad you would have been ostracized if you simply would have said r/woooosh, but then again the alternative turned out to be hilarious.
@novajayagaming9896
@novajayagaming9896 5 жыл бұрын
Dude the difference between these people is so obvious. One side wants to have conversation, one side wants to put words in others mouths and control the conversation.
@raybeauskillet9610
@raybeauskillet9610 5 жыл бұрын
You're 100% accurate
@AtibaVV
@AtibaVV 5 жыл бұрын
yes exactly when they were debating pussy grabbing thing none of the liberals listened at all. she was talking about thots not all women they didn't wanna hear that
@thomasjefferson2813
@thomasjefferson2813 5 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. Conservatives are the worst...
@carryhandleenjoyer7411
@carryhandleenjoyer7411 5 жыл бұрын
@@setht1194 I think hes being sarcastic, just look at his name
@Jeff_Roach
@Jeff_Roach 5 жыл бұрын
"so basically what you're saying is..."
@J2SJ-JustStayStrongJohnathen
@J2SJ-JustStayStrongJohnathen 11 ай бұрын
It’s just amazing to me how three of these Latins identity themselves as white…I’m shock
@joecole7122
@joecole7122 9 ай бұрын
Hispanics are mostly , not all, considered white. Being Hispanic is an ethnic group, not a race.
@orlandovelez3105
@orlandovelez3105 Жыл бұрын
It must suck to live a life with that victim mentality 🤦🏼‍♂️
@veronicagiron3486
@veronicagiron3486 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m saying. It’s so sad.
@rheinamacher1990
@rheinamacher1990 Жыл бұрын
So out of all of the other similar political videos that Vice has uploaded onto KZfaq as part of a series of political debates with different viewpoints, this particular episode, which features participants with different political viewpoints from the left and the right from members of the Latino community that live in Miami, Vice chose not to (or may have cut it out for time purposes), include each debate participant to introduce themselves, such as their name, their background, or any other interesting info that person would want to share. After watching the political debate that featured a lively discussion from members of the Asian community, I was able to connect with one of the conservative participants by sending a message via his social media page and eventually was able to talk to the person on the phone since we shared many of the same interests (especially politics) and even found out that we had mutual friends! So I just wish Vice would have given us the opportunity to have each participant gives us the audience, a short intro of wbo they are, what they're interests are, and or why they chose to participate in this political discussion that millions of viewers would watch.
@gabesainsbury2049
@gabesainsbury2049 4 жыл бұрын
“My family has been here for millions of years” Humans have only been around for 200-300,000 years *facepalm*
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 4 жыл бұрын
That hurt my brain
@laurieanderson2756
@laurieanderson2756 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this exact comment. Poor guy u know he wishes he could take that back.
@dapro2524
@dapro2524 4 жыл бұрын
Well technically. If you believe in evolution, he isn't wrong.
@alonso7124
@alonso7124 4 жыл бұрын
“My family has been here before 1492, we have been here for millions of years” the fuck?
@meginna8354
@meginna8354 4 жыл бұрын
@@dapro2524 humans and the ancestors of humans were not in America until 20.000 years ago
@robertwadas
@robertwadas 4 жыл бұрын
Did she say she was a victim of racism while she is getting dressed ???..Professional victim
@johnwashington8871
@johnwashington8871 4 жыл бұрын
stupidity is a disease. You hang around enough stupid people, you catch it.
@poowawatv6178
@poowawatv6178 4 жыл бұрын
it means suppression based on race is real and stays with you, if you are lucky enough not to understand at least dont act like racism isnt deeply embedded in culture and proven to be systematic... i do however think shes totally using a bigger issue to pretend her personality isnt the problem, she may be a bit woke but shes a chode lol
@poowawatv6178
@poowawatv6178 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnwashington8871 this isnt true at all lol u so crazy
@robertwadas
@robertwadas 4 жыл бұрын
@@poowawatv6178 Whats not true? Im white, my kids are dark mexican and I had to warn them about the dangers of Chicago neighborhoods.. If your not sure if a community in Chicago is dangerous is if the name of the town is in a rap song...stay away ! All people of have racist views, nothing you can do...you can only do something if the person does something racist. Police are 8x's more likely to get shot at by a blackman than the other way around. Stop the race card. Never heard a Japanese pull out the interment camp card ..They reject the idea they are victims!
@jasonbrisco9434
@jasonbrisco9434 4 жыл бұрын
@@poowawatv6178 ... clearly you don't understand the difference between racism and prejudice buds....
@andrewflores3327
@andrewflores3327 Жыл бұрын
As a Latino, I can say if you use the term Latinx we all know you are a gringo
@gemlazium
@gemlazium Жыл бұрын
The guy in the plaid "leans left" 😄 he's so far left he can't see the line. And he is a master student/teacher, our future is screwed. Not sure if the guy sitting next to him is better or worse :"my family has been here before 1492, we've been here for millions of years" 😆
@minicineastemovies
@minicineastemovies 5 жыл бұрын
The debate with Liberal and Conservative African Americans was so much better.
@whitehulkj23
@whitehulkj23 5 жыл бұрын
They all agreed that we should call them black....... Well the conservative ones anyway haha
@x30sage49
@x30sage49 5 жыл бұрын
yeah the one with black people was way better
@wiseguy617
@wiseguy617 5 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAY BETTER!
@Endlesslizard
@Endlesslizard 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Kscomelli
@Kscomelli 5 жыл бұрын
Being black, I was disgusted by the black conservatives. See how that works, I saw something totally different from what you saw. I did learn something from this... boy the self identity issues are strong with this crew. I'm almost sure that all who identified with white would not be considered white when all hell breaks loose. I wonder if those who identify with white could pass for such if they were standing at the border. Sad!!!
@tzvibendaniel2045
@tzvibendaniel2045 2 жыл бұрын
As a Latino, every time I hear “Latin X” I cringe. Other than that, kudos to Vice for allowing this kind of public discourse to take place.
@thavvisionary8912
@thavvisionary8912 2 жыл бұрын
Peace & Love, Just Gaining A New Perspective: What Makes You Cringe About The Term "Latin-X?!?!!?" I'm Ignorant To The Term And What It Means Or Supposed To Mean. Thanks For Reading. Peace & Love!!!
@tzvibendaniel2045
@tzvibendaniel2045 2 жыл бұрын
@@thavvisionary8912 It's butchering the "gendered" Spanish language for the sake of accomodating the gender-non conformity agenda -
@joshuapacman
@joshuapacman 2 жыл бұрын
@@thavvisionary8912 Not the same person but I am latino the term latin-x just doesn't sound correct and sounds more like a way for ignorant white people from California to spew racism and disrespect our shared language of Spanish.
@nightbling8905
@nightbling8905 2 жыл бұрын
@@thavvisionary8912 it’s annoying and disrespectful to our culture, Latino and Latina is how we’ve addressed ourselves for centuries, but all of the sudden people want to change it to be gender neutral which takes out the romantic nature of our language
@3dwin135
@3dwin135 Жыл бұрын
@@nightbling8905 while i see ur point u also need to realize that the word is used in english not in spanish, as in spanish the word is latino is already gender neutral, however in english it isn’t
@user-di8hm2jl2u
@user-di8hm2jl2u 11 ай бұрын
The woman in the orange isnt facing racism, she is getting a reaction to her attitude.
@glo2043
@glo2043 5 ай бұрын
Yep. She's a passive aggressive moron.
@justlucky8254
@justlucky8254 Жыл бұрын
Why were almost none of the questions written in the description of this video not even asked, let alone answered?
@zavierivey8188
@zavierivey8188 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh just post the whole unedited versions. I wanna hear the convos in their entirety
@megandozier6767
@megandozier6767 5 жыл бұрын
Zavier Ivey They easily cut out 75% of a nearly 2 hr long conversation! I’m the girl in the pink blouse in the front row, with the skirt. They pieced together bits of conversation that were unrelated. I’m hoping they post the uncut version because this editing is misleading for both sides of the conversation.
@zavierivey8188
@zavierivey8188 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight. And I loved the points you made. I hope they really post the full Convo. As an African American Conservative I wanna see what we say stop being chopped up and edited
@megandozier6767
@megandozier6767 5 жыл бұрын
Zavier Ivey No problem, I personally found it to be a great conversation as a whole so I hope they do post the uncut version so you could see for yourself! Thank you for the feedback, and I completely agree with you about censorship of conservatives. Its ridiculous
@thecluckingassassin
@thecluckingassassin 5 жыл бұрын
@@megandozier6767 you looked too easily triggered.
@argainsanchez1575
@argainsanchez1575 5 жыл бұрын
Megan Santell you did a great job I really hope they show the whole thing. Im glad I’m not alone as a Mexican-American who doesn’t have democratic views.
@Bloopfrog
@Bloopfrog 5 жыл бұрын
Vice, yall need a better spokesperson that wont cut people off. She kept cutting off the conservatives which clearly shows where she stands.
@rogerengle2509
@rogerengle2509 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and then she completely ignored what the guy in the back righr was saying about how people should be treated by their actions and not by their color...thats such a good statement...the libbies all want a damn handout because they are hispanic
@frankvillarreal9418
@frankvillarreal9418 5 жыл бұрын
The man in black, at 10:39 wasn’t even finished speaking his mind and she totally cut him off. That was so disrespectful, if she can’t be an unbiased host, she has no business hosting. Then again, vice is full of shit and completely biased. Have you seen the hosts, they all dress like 12 year old boys and have horrible haircuts. They all act like pussies. Especially that cry baby black reporter that looks like a gay Gerald from Hey Arnold.
@elisiamangiacotti7001
@elisiamangiacotti7001 5 жыл бұрын
Emily Hernandez probably because they’re saying things everyone have already heard a billion times.
@MarchOfMonarchs
@MarchOfMonarchs 5 жыл бұрын
They should of had that guy from the black political debate
@ottomaddox7105
@ottomaddox7105 5 жыл бұрын
America for Trump 2020!
@sarahmcardle6584
@sarahmcardle6584 Жыл бұрын
Why did she make that guy on bottom left say identify as a colour but didn’t stop the rest who decided to answer with ‘nationality/ culture’.
@MegaaSound
@MegaaSound 11 ай бұрын
This needs to be redone with conservatives who stand their ground a little more. It felt too quiet to me lol
@juststoptrying424
@juststoptrying424 5 жыл бұрын
Why does the person in charge have a opinion in a non biased debate
@jonw3462
@jonw3462 5 жыл бұрын
thats as good as your gonna get from a 95% far left media.
@chknrsandTBBTROX73
@chknrsandTBBTROX73 5 жыл бұрын
The moderator will always have an opinion on the topic, the problem is letting it show in a non-biased debate.
@tahmhenks2972
@tahmhenks2972 4 жыл бұрын
Lady in the orange shirt is absolutely what's wrong with discussing politics. She is either extremely condescending or full on victim mode.
@mounaimegueriou5101
@mounaimegueriou5101 4 жыл бұрын
I'm colorblind so referring to her with colour is so offensive ( no seriously are you talking about the one on the upper right or lower right cuz i'm coluorblind for real and i can't find her lol)
@tahmhenks2972
@tahmhenks2972 4 жыл бұрын
Lower right
@mounaimegueriou5101
@mounaimegueriou5101 4 жыл бұрын
Oh ! I agree then
@natefrancis4455
@natefrancis4455 4 жыл бұрын
Right, of course the Black woman is. Your not biased at all.
@tahmhenks2972
@tahmhenks2972 4 жыл бұрын
@@natefrancis4455 Her mannerism when people try to interject is condescending. She feels racism when she's getting dressed? C'mon.
@UberOwl
@UberOwl Жыл бұрын
2:14 look at the hosts condescending, smug expression & body language. Just wow
@Bimmer_MD
@Bimmer_MD Жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested to see this panel brought back together to debate their current views of Trump
@OmniviumVelocity
@OmniviumVelocity 4 жыл бұрын
Hey VICE, next time you have a "debate" can you bring in people who are a little smarter? And actually be unbiased next time. You clearly lean left and it makes this whole video a joke
@yragcom1
@yragcom1 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. From the mod to the panel, this needs a do over
@MUSICLVR70
@MUSICLVR70 4 жыл бұрын
Right! When she asked about the Mexicans being "rapist...etc" Total left talking point of someone who didn't do her homework!!!!! SMH
@gentrybrown2032
@gentrybrown2032 4 жыл бұрын
I like when the moderator casually gave Obama credit for better unemployment for Hispanics/changing the economy and nobody noticed.
@joehoang4826
@joehoang4826 4 жыл бұрын
As dumb as these people are, they perfectly represent actual voters.
@eddiehernandez221
@eddiehernandez221 4 жыл бұрын
News flash Trump don't give a shit about you!
@marissaceniceros8614
@marissaceniceros8614 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s pretend to have an open conversation but only question the conservatives...props to the conservatives that went on the panel.
@andrewstout903
@andrewstout903 5 жыл бұрын
Marissa Ceniceros could not agree more!
@hlross3574
@hlross3574 5 жыл бұрын
Are you conservative?
@ColonPal
@ColonPal 5 жыл бұрын
Marissa, There wasn't a single Conservative on the panel you idiot. The people who say they 'support Trump' are just misguided, uninformed morons, who have spent their lives being duped by FAKE NEWS, which is the only thing that suggests trump has done anything for the Country, when he's done the EXACT OPPOSITE, WEAKENING our Country immeasurably. Only a complete IDIOT would say support is helping the Country. Even him bragging about Lower unemployment was done by Obama who passed Legislation that ALLOWED the Unemployment to decrease. Trump did NOTHING to lower unemployment, OBAMA DID. Trump has only passed one piece of Legislation in 3 years, his tax scam which didn't provide a SHRED of hope for middle class Americans, but only rewarded the FILTHY RICH and the already rich corporations, who are raking in trillions and using it to pay their CEO"s billions of dollars.
@lildrummerboy5873
@lildrummerboy5873 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Judd you are an actual idiot
@t0pgun2005
@t0pgun2005 4 жыл бұрын
@@ColonPal the stupid runs deep in you and your family....
@Orange_ape1125
@Orange_ape1125 Жыл бұрын
I expected nothing but heated exchange and passion that’s what I got lmaooo things got spicy
@patriciacairo4002
@patriciacairo4002 Жыл бұрын
This a conversation that's never ends well we all have the same feelings with different variations but it's a elephant in the room no one acknowledged who's to say what's better then the other?
@cxc3060
@cxc3060 5 жыл бұрын
This should be titled questioning Trump supporters...it isn’t a debate, it isn’t a conversation...Also the mediator in a debate is supposed to be neutral!! She’s so blatantly liberal
@junpvvv1326
@junpvvv1326 5 жыл бұрын
She literally just asked questions. The only thing unfair was the 6 versus 3
@cxc3060
@cxc3060 5 жыл бұрын
junpv vv title is misleading...this isn’t a debate...the conservatives were just being questioned on why they believe what they do...have you seen a debate before? The mediator not doing her job right
@theburninator5547
@theburninator5547 5 жыл бұрын
@@junpvvv1326 .... 11:25 She argues against the conservative about jobs dropping saying that jobs started dropping before Trump, which is 100% false and you see the video was cut with the conservative laughing in the next shot. It wouldn't have surprised me if He explained facts and vice didn't like that part in the video. Next, she uses false and out of context quotes of Trump when asking if bringing all drug dealers and rapist across the borders is racist when Trump didn't even come close to saying those things and all you have to do is have 2 brain cells and listen to Trump's full context response. So sorry, she definitely showed that she leaned left.
@theburninator5547
@theburninator5547 5 жыл бұрын
@saysay44 ... Are you seriously telling me after 8 years in office and the worst unemployment numbers in history, your trying to say it's because of Obama for today's low unemployment numbers or if you look at the time line, it's obvious that Trump was making deals month before he officially started in office and thus, that's where you're getting your numbers. This is common sense but only if you look at the facts.
@bob1757
@bob1757 5 жыл бұрын
@@theburninator5547 unemployment rate got high during the recession if you're stupid enough to blame Obama for that then you're hopeless. The unemployment rate eventually began to drop during his presidency before Trump even announced his run. These are facts, they don't care about your feelings or what you morons like to say
@swtstlr
@swtstlr 5 жыл бұрын
How do you deal with racism when you get dressed? I really don’t get that.
@jinkzava
@jinkzava 5 жыл бұрын
LMAOO i wqs laughing at her
@splitzwang
@splitzwang 5 жыл бұрын
When you're deciding on how you present yourself to a mostly white community, as a poc you're forced to think about your physical appearance; i.e. clothing, hairstyle, how much skin is showing or covered up. If I walk outside wearing shorts and a tank top, people are going to assume more about me because of the color of my skin compared to a white person wearing the same thing. Going further than that, some Latinx people of color wear their hair naturally and as it's been seen time and time again that can keep us from getting hired or even cause us to be harassed in the street.
@charissaingram3465
@charissaingram3465 5 жыл бұрын
Same kind of ignorant girl that wants handouts.
@charissaingram3465
@charissaingram3465 5 жыл бұрын
@@splitzwang that's such a bs false statement lol if you're thinking about that then you are the racist, not eveyone else or the system...
@ricque2331
@ricque2331 5 жыл бұрын
@@splitzwang i can only imagine how long it takes you to get dress. Noone is worried about you at all,people got their own issues, take care of your insecurities bro
@dickjohnson6927
@dickjohnson6927 6 ай бұрын
"If you care so much about american people congratulations I'm not like that" what are these people even doing in the country if they don't care about it
@pauloramirez8216
@pauloramirez8216 Жыл бұрын
The one talking about not manifesting is literally manifesting what she says.
@holmanvillegas8967
@holmanvillegas8967 5 жыл бұрын
A Lilttle Fact Checking Might Help This Conversation.
@SHlV
@SHlV 5 жыл бұрын
Would it help the right or the left?
@bryceross4957
@bryceross4957 5 жыл бұрын
Shiv left
@junkka2663
@junkka2663 5 жыл бұрын
​@@SHlV the right
@bmillemo
@bmillemo 5 жыл бұрын
@@SHlV Both sides. It would have shown the left what the right got correct. It would have also shown the left what they were wrong about so they could correct it in the future.
@ranch2970
@ranch2970 5 жыл бұрын
@@clicheguevara5282 triggered much nazi?
@Oranguice
@Oranguice 5 жыл бұрын
5:50 she says ”I don't care if you rubbing on him” But if she's rubbing on him isn't she doing doing the exact same thing she's outraged about?
@alwaysabiggerfish9564
@alwaysabiggerfish9564 5 жыл бұрын
lol Men are probably "Raped" more then women but we just don't care enough to whine about it.
@julianmontoya428
@julianmontoya428 5 жыл бұрын
I heard it that way also...she can violate his space...and still say he doesnt have the right to touch her, even if she puts her breast all over him?...
@nicor2126
@nicor2126 5 жыл бұрын
AlwaysABiggerFish it’s bc it’s imbedded in your head that men don’t get rapped
@CeLticFire1251
@CeLticFire1251 11 ай бұрын
The guy in orange is the type of person who will pursue a career in education just to complain about teachers not being paid enough.
@presidentnotsure9536
@presidentnotsure9536 Жыл бұрын
The girl in the gold. More indigenous than all of them, loves the US nation. You are the girl next door.
@213kidangel
@213kidangel 5 жыл бұрын
This was not very intellectual.... it was like Miami traffic.
@jaymjacinto
@jaymjacinto 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the majority of the people are not intellectual. ..
@karim-a7469
@karim-a7469 5 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@SuperOmnicronsj44
@SuperOmnicronsj44 5 жыл бұрын
Butcher the Silence they are losing the message AND influence 🤔 they cannot program the audience the way they wanted
@user-hd8ej8yx9p
@user-hd8ej8yx9p 5 жыл бұрын
latinos are not very intelectual.. they're very emotional
@uncleruckus3149
@uncleruckus3149 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah who needs chemicals or a dumbed down media to make the people stupid? Thats only the beginning just let hispanics become the majority, than you wonder why the mainstream media has this agenda against whites, the social controllers got everything wrapped up tight. Someday we'll all realize how much better off we were before the invasion, by the time we realize weve been scammed into thinking theres nothing special about the white race, itll all be too late
@missbidica7775
@missbidica7775 5 жыл бұрын
This comment section is gonna be on fire and I'm just gonna sit here and watch it burn.
@jonathancortez3003
@jonathancortez3003 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I'll bring the beers
@flatlad
@flatlad 5 жыл бұрын
I hereby declare this comment section hell
@JimmyKillem69
@JimmyKillem69 5 жыл бұрын
i just feel like vice owes us the instagram of the chick top right
@gmechekoff
@gmechekoff 5 жыл бұрын
fuck yeah it is hahaha, let the trolling begin
@BushidoMauve
@BushidoMauve 5 жыл бұрын
Fasten your seat belts
@manvirsingh9936
@manvirsingh9936 2 жыл бұрын
With the opening discussion regarding Trump saying ‘they let u grab them by the pxxxy’ the key words in that’s statement is ‘they LET YOU’. The conservative panelists were trying to get that point across, however the liberal panelists jump straight to non consensual assault, and the ‘unbiased’ host just lets it go. That is not the type of conversation we need right now. It has to be strictly moderated and fact checked.
@C.Davis96
@C.Davis96 Жыл бұрын
I love the opening mission statement. This is not a monolith
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