The question is whether A.I. can bill the patients and their insurance providers better than humans.
@optimusprime51994 жыл бұрын
Maybe they will. 😂😂😂
@HeavyK.4 жыл бұрын
"No" reports the computer at the insurance company.
@jusletursoulglobaby4 жыл бұрын
honestly, I see this as something that reduces the cost of certain services so maybe.... just maybe that bill doesnt make u pimp out ur family to settle up
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Not if healthcare is free to all. Hopefully my country will continue to provide this and yours will provide it soon. It's sad that anyone lives in a country without free healthcare.
@joyjoyoo4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@makatron4 жыл бұрын
Think of it as the first diagnosis to narrow down the possible issues so an actual doctor can focus on those.
@wesleyhempoli55484 жыл бұрын
Thank you, captain obvious, for explaining what the title already suggested.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Its actually more likely to be useful to prevent undereading and satisfaction of search type errors, in the short term at least. Also using AI to do things like bone subtraction to highlight otherwise easily missed masses.
@derekdeadlifts29864 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyhempoli5548 He did that to be funny Wesley Snipes.
@k.kchoudhary18763 жыл бұрын
plz, Sir humble request to give me information about AI in medicine. How can I apply? what is the necessary subject. plz, Sir. humble request I am small brother you're... plz sir help me.
@michaelmjack33362 жыл бұрын
1:09 Underexposed CXR which is NOT CLEAR! AI has missed a left apical spiculated mass, AP window consolidation and right paratracheal widening. Hyperinflated lungs suggestive of COPD with basal oligaemia which could represent underexposure, emphysema and/or bullous disease. In summary this could all be CANCER! I hope they got a real radiologist to look again at the CXR!
@frankkid0104 жыл бұрын
Damn imagine multiple years of medical school just to get replace by a robot
@mollerbt4 жыл бұрын
Won't happen so no need to imagine it.
@w1z4rd94 жыл бұрын
mollerbt haha dream. anything is possible even it breaks logic
@mollerbt4 жыл бұрын
@@w1z4rd9 that's why we use common sense as well. AI can enhance and improve medical care, but it can't replace doctors. Just a fact of common sense and simple logic.
@w1z4rd94 жыл бұрын
mollerbt why can't it replace doctors ? your reply doesn't make sense against my comment
@mollerbt4 жыл бұрын
@@w1z4rd9 if my reply doesn't make sense to you then it's because your not thinking. AI requires computers. Computers require electricity. So what, we are going to lessen our medical perssonnel in favor of AI which can easily be knocked down with a loss of electricity? That's a great weak point for attack. But let's ignore that. Are we going to claim that proper medical care is completely devoid of logic and reasoning? Back to AI. Who will oversee the AI to ensure it doesn't interpret something wrong considering it lacks reasoning? How about the possibility of hacking? A virus? Corrupted code? AI learns by what has already been accomplished. Can AI further progress in medical knowledge of which it has no exposure to? Without the human element, can AI adapt to a previously unknown factor? Can AI properly instruct and care for the needs of patients? The human element is literally a core element of all areas of medical care. There is no human element with a computer. A properly trained radiologist is usually needed to properly position a patient for optimal results. What of a scared child? How would an AI handle that? There are so many other factors that ensure the job security of radiologists. AI can be more accurate with greater consistency sure. But that's about it. The best use of AI is for just that purpose. Not to replace, but to enhance the quality of care given by a radiologist. I didn't even get into the communication and cooperative efforts required of radiologists with other members of the medical care team. Being able to explain things to both patient and medical care team members to ensure the best possible care for the patient and to ensure necessary understanding by the patient
@GooberProductionz4 жыл бұрын
Yang tried to tell us
@brandont59954 жыл бұрын
Just a matter of time
@james.a.h.4 жыл бұрын
After he dropped out I stopped following the election.
@angelmonroy30124 жыл бұрын
James H ...but its still your future isnt it
@derekdeadlifts29864 жыл бұрын
I don't even vote so it doesn't matter to me.
@koilamaoh42384 жыл бұрын
The likely hood of effecting many jobs, ehhh not really. Won't be happening in our life time or next generation. Still will take some time. Hopefully we won't doom ourselves by then with nukes or natural disasters. Once capitalism starts peaking/modernizing world wide, then we would have to worry cause no one will want to work cheap; thus a new form of socialism will emerge.
@KamiSilver4 жыл бұрын
I know something bigger than A.I. success rates: Physician's egos.
@SirEnzo3714 жыл бұрын
Found the anti-vaxxer.
@Bilal-rp4mk4 жыл бұрын
How selfish of these radiologists, wanting a job over saving more lives. Go find something else to do
@KamiSilver4 жыл бұрын
@@SirEnzo371 huh? Pro vaccines here.
@tngchinghwa4 жыл бұрын
@@SirEnzo371 dafuq you talking?
@Speaks4itself4 жыл бұрын
@Andres Leon eye doctors are super Dumb, I've spent so much on glasses and I still can't see clearly.
@jaames4 жыл бұрын
The key word here is not replacement. It’s complementary. Radiologists are not limited to reading Xrays, although it’s one of their primary tasks.
@mr.n0ne4 жыл бұрын
4:01 Survey results from Canada, 4:16 numbers from US.
@PassportBrosBusinessClass4 жыл бұрын
I never would have guessed that a COMPUTER would be more accurate at diagnosing ailments based on a CHECKLIST than a HUMAN would be. Lieutenant Commander Data, what do you think???
@charlesbrisebois24354 жыл бұрын
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports a computer is better at keeping your car going then per say a carburetor that has to be tuned for climate height and other factors, the computer does it all in the fraction of a second by using oxygen sensors and mass air flow sensors
@vonbrendt014 жыл бұрын
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports are you being sarcastic? Because this is the future of free health care. No longer will we have to pay millions upon millions per year for doctors salaries. Just the one time price of the tech.
@whatdudeokman64814 жыл бұрын
Dark Craft obviously he is being sarcastic, you must not know who Lieutenant Commander Data is.
@BazanIsDead4 жыл бұрын
Dark Craft softwares will have license
@vonbrendt014 жыл бұрын
whatdudeokman from Star Trek? I was young but I remember.
@Nick-wp7md4 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to school for 10 years and forcing yourself to learn everything then being replaced by a robot.
@twentyeighthunnid4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that Doctors are there just to read x-rays? Here's one for you: Imagine the medecine field stagnating forever.. u___u Forwards, fools... forwards.
@ItsShaylaBayla4 жыл бұрын
ssap io - yeah .... that’s what you read, not what the comment actually says lol.
@Dantick094 жыл бұрын
It is called evolve and get better at your job or get out
@Nick-wp7md4 жыл бұрын
@@Dantick09 humans learn much slower than robots. Not saying AI aren't better but it seems a bit counter productive for America to put so much encouragement toward going to college, only to turn to AI in the end. It's still a new field though so I'm optimistic that people will find ways to work around it.
@SirEnzo3714 жыл бұрын
@@Dantick09 The AI recognized pneumonia at a 2% better rate.....and that's PNEUMONIA. A radiologist does more than that and it requires physicals at times like with cancers.
@antgarcia624 жыл бұрын
3:19 damn doctor i don't need AI to examine those legs
@DrBlues904 жыл бұрын
I am a trainee registrar (resident) in the UK. I used to be very worried about AI. The more I work in this speciality the more I realise it's an opportunity and not a threat. 1. Our jobs are not just looking at pixels on a screen. Its about justifying the exam, choosing the correct modality, phase and timing. Nothing is black and white. Things are not as simple as yes or no. Its about appreciating the clinical history, old imaging and managing a finite resource. Most of the leading companies in the AI Radiology field I have spoken to are surprisingly uninformed about what we do. 2. X rays are a dying art form increasingly performed by radiographers. CT/MRI is widely available and the bread and butter of radiology. 3. US/Interventional radiology still require a person to perform and has high user variability. 4. Medico legally complexities - too much to cover. 5. Testing algorithms from one patient cohort/area has mixed results when applied to other patient groups. Though, I don't doubt huge training sets and deep learning can overcome this. I don't doubt it will be very useful for high volume and simple imaging like mammograms or looking for lesions on CXR. Radiologists are future proofing themselves by making sure more of their work involves patient contact/physical procedures or complex imaging like MR. There is a lot of hype and many predictions about our replacement are now overdue. We have a saying in radiology - those who use AI will replace those who don't.
@asmaamohammad2240 Жыл бұрын
And after 3 years .. what is your advice for GP doctors please ? Should we think of other specialities due to AI future ?
@anoushkas87264 ай бұрын
@@asmaamohammad2240 As of now Radiology alone seems threatened by AI. Not other branches. Especially surgical branches.
@Faesharlyn4 жыл бұрын
The insurance companies already use this tech to decide who gets treatment and who gets to die.
@trentmorrison60744 жыл бұрын
And more is coming our way. Soon well be heading to mexico for more then just illegal plastic surgerys, soon actuall health care will kick in.
@g00dvibes474 жыл бұрын
Actually, I also work on cutting-edge supervised machine learning algorithms to help oncologists detect cancer. The models actually really do no worse than the doctors most of the time and do better than the doctors about 3% of the time and catch missed opportunities for doctors to diagnose earlier about 1% of the time. Needless to say, this is definitely different than deep learning without respect for job replacement, but it definitely provides more opportunity for patients to get the best care earlier. Now, I don’t know her personally but working with doctors like Dr. Lehman has always been a pleasure.
@geuse_chandesu42734 жыл бұрын
No match for Dr Gregory House
@HiAdrian4 жыл бұрын
*A.I.:* I'm 92% confident it's Lupus *House:* …
@kullwarrior4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure AI reading radiology report will end like like 12 Lead ECG interpretation. The machine use algorithms to make a suggest diagnosis, but ultimately the clinician will need to make a decision. I don't think ai will replace radiologist, it will change their job for sure kinda like how progress of medicine has change how we do things.
@basicnpcc4 жыл бұрын
I think this AI, for now at least, is beneficial for both the people working in the field and the patient. I doubt anyone for quite a long time will be comfortable taking the human completely out of the loop. For instance, it would be beneficial for all parties If the radiologist used the AI to double check their findings. Then it is basically like having two qualified radiologists look over your findings rather than one.
@MohammedR-fk2ju4 жыл бұрын
As someone who studies healthcare engineering and management, it excites me to see innovation in my field of study.
@guardian69753 жыл бұрын
And to get replaced!
@ahad16092 жыл бұрын
@@guardian6975 engineers are gping to be replaced, too.
@fredxu994 жыл бұрын
As a student who has been working with computational imaging algorithms, most of these in development are not intended to replace a radiologist's job, but rather to help aid them with a form of feedback. It's nearly impossible for algorithms to be 100% foolproof, as there will always exist some false positive rate. Nor is it possible that an algorithm can achieve a 100% correct diagnosis rate without some amount of false positive. On top of that, with the algorithm demonstrated in the video, the output may yield competing diagnoses, many of which could be false positives. There are many other external factors that may confirm or deny a diagnosis, such as the patient's medical history or family background. While images are easy to quantify as data, external qualitative factors are very difficult to feed into a machine learning or deep learning model. Under the circumstance of a potential false positive or multiple competing diagnoses, ultimately it is up to the radiologist and their peers to make the final call. Anyway, while I'm not an expert in either radiology or computation, after working in this area for a couple of years, I would say people shouldn't jump to the conclusion of AI taking over medical jobs. Patient data is a lot more finnicky than what people think, it's not clean spreadsheets, and many assumptions and estimates have to be made (like how do you quantify family history of lung cancer, is it a yes/no answer? Do we need to know how many generations have had lung cancer? Do we need to know which side of the family has it? How severe the cancer was? etc.)
@rdrgtreer4 жыл бұрын
This is another opportunity for corporate health care to cut human workforce and still sell us the expensive product, also a great step for authority. But now comes with an app!
@chamikk904 жыл бұрын
Normal doctor x-ray test : $500 AI doctor x-ray test : $450
@janekfan6664 жыл бұрын
American* doctor: $500 Normal doctor: $0
@rdrgtreer4 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting there is something wrong with capitalism?
@blaze12064 жыл бұрын
@@janekfan666 ha ha ha, it's funny because in EU any public department of health Care is free instead of the US
@joshitheyoshi25334 жыл бұрын
@@blaze1206 It's not free. It's called taxes and lower incomes across the board.
@blaze12064 жыл бұрын
@@joshitheyoshi2533 but if broke my arm and need surgery, I'll not have to pay the doctor or do I?
@carnage33434 жыл бұрын
AI will be used as a tool by radiologists and will not replace them.
@zxdp7474 жыл бұрын
What tool? Pressing that "scan" button? Anybody can do that. All the works is done by the AI.
@jasonl37364 жыл бұрын
Siddharth Raj radiologists will be like cashiers wearing lab coats
@KaranSingh-or7yy4 жыл бұрын
💯% right Siddharth Raj
@carnage33434 жыл бұрын
@@jasonl3736 😅 No! They have other responsibilities too like research etc
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
@@zxdp747 radiographic positioning isn't simple and as it takes an element of patient care and consideration of their ability to hold a position, its a little difficult to get a machine to do it. As radiation is used you cant just keep going until you get a good image. Also the tool being referred to is the ability to aid diagnosis, the is no mention of scanning in this video. Clearly you haven't understood it and should perhaps rewatch it.
@frankielamictal4 жыл бұрын
You can never fully replace doctors, especially radiologists. AI and a doctor combined could be super great but you can never take the human element out of healthcare
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can, it will happen eventually. Humans in such roles are inefficient and very error prone. If the doctor didn't sleep well, had a divorce, death in the family -- good luck with your random diagnosis.
@michaelmjack33362 жыл бұрын
1:09 Underexposed CXR which is NOT CLEAR! AI has missed a left apical spiculated mass, AP window consolidation and right paratracheal widening. Hyperinflated lungs suggestive of COPD with basal oligaemia which could represent underexposure, emphysema and/or bullous disease. In summary this could all be CANCER! I hope they got a real radiologist to look again at the CXR!
@theorangecandle Жыл бұрын
@@infiltr80r True. But jobs in the IT sector will be lost way before jobs in healthcare.
@gamma40535 ай бұрын
Yes, but we need 1-2 doctors instead of dozen. That 1-2 doctor will only check AI.
@CIARUNSITE4 жыл бұрын
3:12 I can't imagine worse interviewing techniques.
@genericalias57564 жыл бұрын
That bothered me so much
@TheLeader6644 жыл бұрын
BeaterWRX that was cringe tbh
@0poIE4 жыл бұрын
*If the Algorithm doesn't find anything. Let the patient chose to have a human check. If the Algorithm finds something then a human will have to intervene anyway*
@aryan42684 жыл бұрын
You have a better chance when ai does diagnosis rather than doctor. You have a 2% better chance using ai
@Jesuswalks74754 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have Ai then a human to be a radiologist, if it means it's more accurate, it will cost less too, that means more people will get yearly check ups and better overall healthcare.
@kifter42544 жыл бұрын
Peter Fairclough or bull shit AI to make us even sicker..
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
What little I could find regarding pricing suggested its currently more expensive, also it currently performs worse than radiologists. Its just not as simple as buying a computer that reads x-rays.
@TheBlackMage34 жыл бұрын
I work with IT in a radiology department. Right now we are in the early days for AI in radiology. At our institution we use an AI algorithm to try to detect pulmonary emboli and intracranial bleeds. If it's not one of those two diagnoses, it doesn't see it. Additionally, it is currently overcalling these diagnoses at an alarming rate. It was so bad, we had to disable the AI for non-radiology clinicians because it was negatively effecting care (e.g. wasting consult time, causing people to be unnecessarily admitted, etc.). Our radiologists have very mixed opinions on it. Some of them seem to like the second eyes while others feel like they need to hedge on things the previously would not have called (and probably shouldn't be called pathology). Most of the money you pay (e.g. $2k for a CT scan) goes to the person who owns the scanner. Very little goes to the radiologist (e.g. $10 for a chest x-ray or $60 for a CT scan). The AI will have to be licensed and it will require even more computing power. Therefore, it is unclear how it will actually effect costs.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackMage3 this is what ive tried to say in about 20 different posts. Mind if I copy and paste this haha. The thought of paying for a ct scan, especially 2k to is terrifying. Rather than hoping ai will reduce costs people should vote for free healthcare!
@TheBlackMage34 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 Yes, feel free to copy and paste. There is a lot of baseless hype around AI. I have no doubt that it will have uses throughout the economy, but I wish the news would stop scaring people needlessly. We definitely need to find a way to pay the hard working techs, nurses, doctors, etc. who actually take care of people and pay less to the hospitals/administrators. When I went to the ER after chopping off the tip of my finger, my bill was almost $1.5k. Only $100 went to the doctor who fixed my finger. The rest went to the hospital for having me sit in their ER for 8 hours while waiting to see the doctor. I literally got no tests or images. This is the reverse of the way it should work.
@Blitznstitch24 жыл бұрын
Universal basic income now! Also yes you can fly around the world without a pilot.
@kingslayercr74 жыл бұрын
Seriously let AI do all the jobs and lets everyone have a debate about unemployment 😇
@tamaravanvoorst4484 жыл бұрын
You do realize that you need someone to run it, and algorithms miss things all the time. Just look at social media.
@NotepenOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Would we feel bad about oncologists if we cured cancer?
@riccardobertagna93884 жыл бұрын
That's exactly my point. If we don't need a certain job, it's because we are passed that. Two people I know died because the docs didn't read the X-ray properly. AI checks can help so much!
@PresidentialWinner4 жыл бұрын
Think of all those poor horses that lost their jobs to cars. Millions of horses out of a job! Poor little horses. Same with humans. Get on with the program or begone. Progress is relentless and everyone should educate themselves on AI instead of blindly walking towards a certain future with no foresight. AI is coming and it's coming fast. It's going to replace us at everything. But not in a short period of time. It's going to be a generational thing. Our kid's grand kids won't even know what a job is.
@koilamaoh42384 жыл бұрын
Its not like cancer will magically disappear anytime soon.. Only way of avoiding it is by becoming a robot much later in the future. Cancer will always be there, in our lifetimes and future generations.
@Lo2smoove4 жыл бұрын
Note Pen the cure for cancer is out there. You think in today’s world with all this technology and so on, that they don’t know? We are smarter than this. At some point you gotta wake up and realize that we are always being lied to. Some things they don’t want us to cure because that’s less money for them if there are no patients for these things.
@PresidentialWinner4 жыл бұрын
@@Lo2smoove Out there? Where? You do realize cancer is a family of diseases for which no one treatment or drug or solution can ever be devised. Ever. Google "why haven't we cured cancer yet"
@Jaclyn_Zen4 жыл бұрын
I guess dropping out of that x-ray tech school wasn’t as wasteful after all? 🤷🏻♀️🤔
@Jaclyn_Zen4 жыл бұрын
No No hey I tried hard! Lol it just wasn’t for me... or I wasn’t for it. 🤦🏻♀️😅
@Jaclyn_Zen4 жыл бұрын
On the brighter side, the new technology might significantly reduce costs. Health Care in the USA is crazy expensive.
@carlosmartinez30204 жыл бұрын
@@Jaclyn_Zen lol nah if any thing the health would get more expensive due to the cost of the machinery that would need funding.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
This is regarding radiologists reading images not taking x-rays. Machines taking X-rays is likely a much longer way off. However if you wouldn't have enjoyed it, it was a smart move. Hopefully you found something you enjoy!
@user-tm1ix7xi1n4 жыл бұрын
Do computer science
@nomads79784 жыл бұрын
Harvard is doing something similar in their incubator program. They had similar accuracy. R.I.P radiology job at this rate. Some day designer job and many more will cease to exist
@photoli3 жыл бұрын
Had assessed AI compared with radiologist reading. Id say 50% accurate. Only sees the obvious pathologies, but not the subtle findings that needs human rationing. Hence, DOCTORS of every specialty cannot be replaced regardless how good AI can be!
@3rKoPlaysMinecraft4 жыл бұрын
But Doooocccc, this app said you NEED to prescribe me these strong painkillerssss... pleeeeaassee??
@jippalippa4 жыл бұрын
I'd still prefer the contact and empathy only a person can provide.
@plunksong4 жыл бұрын
a radiologist would still be needed to confirm the results
@rizolli-bx9iv3 жыл бұрын
Only for that they are required just to oversee
@thematt53254 жыл бұрын
They also don’t have to pay the a.i., so there’s that, the monetary motivation for greater profits. 👎
@jusletursoulglobaby4 жыл бұрын
that is the ultimate motivator...
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
Of course, you complete idiot. By your logic, we should just keep jobs for the sake of people having a job. Why weight beans in a store, hire people to count beans individually! More jobs for everyone! Less people eventually means cheaper services.
@esdraslopez46584 жыл бұрын
Ehh...79% compared to 81% isnt a huge change, and this is one study. Other studies differ. Its not necessarily a sure thing
@Kartik-ij2vy2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter ,they are cost effective
@Beetwate3054 жыл бұрын
WELP!!!!! I’m glad I didn’t listen to my father about being a radiologist
@optimusprime51994 жыл бұрын
Wtf is is your id pic?
@SirEnzo3714 жыл бұрын
Probably wouldn't have made it anyways.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
@@SirEnzo371 You're probably right because it's something you need a passion for or it's going to really suck. I hope you found something you really enjoy as your profession.
@SirEnzo3714 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 No, mostly becoming a doctor is extremely difficult yet alone becoming a radiologist which is one of the more competitive specialties in the US.
@shawnlynch96583 жыл бұрын
Lol you can't even get into medical school, talking about Radiology shhh
@John_the_baptized4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what Yang2020 was talking about.
@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons4 жыл бұрын
John Nickel well he’s no longer running, so ....
@uknowimeyen4 жыл бұрын
@@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons The problem still exists so his points are still relevant even if he dropped out
@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons4 жыл бұрын
uknowimeyen ya but he’s not 2020 anymore, that is what I meant!
@blahber2224 жыл бұрын
I think I Got This! hmm, he’s still 2020 on instagram ahaha
@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons4 жыл бұрын
Roland what does that mean, absolutely nothing. He is no longer running 2020, he will not be on any ballot.
@user-up3iq2gp3b4 жыл бұрын
This will be life saving for alot of people. Freeing up a Dr.’s time to work on other aspects of a patients heath is an amazing use of technology.
@andyb2814 жыл бұрын
What about the accuracy rate of using the A.I. as an assist for radiologists? Something like radiologist reads picture without A.I. input (to keep the opinion independent) and then if A.I. disagrees it goes up for a second review?
@rw27244 жыл бұрын
The problem with A.I. vs Human is the fact that the algorithm has NEVER experienced "Wet-Birth", so does not understand the pain/feeling factor..
@rachellejanssen26554 жыл бұрын
Using AI to analyze stuff like this can't happen soon enough. The only thing I'm worried about is that the cost (or access to it) will be very disruptive. Either the hospital pays a crazy amount to use the AI or they hire a radiologist which by that point is almost nowhere to be found.
@metadr4 жыл бұрын
I think AI is far from replacing human physicians because of the fact that medicine is not an exact science, and ultimately You are dealing with a human being who has specific social, economical and situational circumstances You have to account for when diagnosing and treating.
@corujariousa4 жыл бұрын
Many professions will be impacted and people will have to adapt once A.I. becomes a reality. The benefits (and risks) are immense.
@Nihilnovus4 жыл бұрын
How up did he say “it trained itself”? Yup these are the days. I’m showing my loyalty now, hail Skynet!
@DuckieMcduck4 жыл бұрын
The A.I. agent is put in a feedback system where it gives an estimate based on data it has received. You give the system pictures of "dog" for its "bank" then offer it pictures with no classification to see if it can estimate if there's a "dog" in the that input. The feedback system then corrects the result and the agent trains itself this way until it gets within acceptable estimates for most pictures of "dog", and then you have a billion mini-issues that require tweaking and optimizing where the algorithm is detecting a Lynx as a "dog" or not recognizing "Pugs". It's not perfect by any means which is why this video is a clickbait title.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
@@DuckieMcduck yeah, computer aided diagnosis isn't a new thing nor is it currently good enough to be used. It would still be interesting without a clickbait title which is why its so annoying. Also, great explanation!
@ButterBallTheOpossum4 жыл бұрын
Think about how great this would be in poor areas with no access to good medical care. I wonder if an AI could diagnose an illness with only an ultrasound that doctors would need an MRI for?
@Marg2054 жыл бұрын
Doctors these days can't diagnose their own rear ends correctly.
@penniesnnickels4 жыл бұрын
I want an A.I. to do my laundry...
@_MintArcade4 жыл бұрын
Greater accuracy yes, but certain jobs requires intuition and professional judgement, and Ai can't do that
@mezar48544 жыл бұрын
I think A.I. will be more efficient one day than a radiologist, and that's a good thing.
@ChristianNorge4 жыл бұрын
But what if the AI determines you're slightly overweight, and decides that the best course of action is to fat shame you
@Danuxsy4 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianNorge Even better.
@yDrewy4 жыл бұрын
Don't fear the future because of 'jobs'....This will be an amazing tool for clinicians going forward. This isn't a replacement but an augmentation. Lives>Jobs....
@zaaya77194 жыл бұрын
*AHA!* so the Google searches were right all along!!! Looks like i'm dying then 😂
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Whatever your symptoms dr google says cancer! Oh well, you had a good life.
@zaaya77194 жыл бұрын
Dave Davidson exactly lol
@beccaa29194 жыл бұрын
this is pretty interesting, surprised this isn't already a thing
@xzst4 жыл бұрын
You basically have the same on electrocardiograms - the computer gives you an analysis of the rhytm, frequency and possible arrythims or anomalies. Yet you still have to figure out if thats true, you check the patients history, meds, diseases etc. and then decide if the info your given is actually true. Its the same in Xrays. It might come as an aid for orientation, but it wont replace human doctors.
4 жыл бұрын
well to be totally honest, A.I has the access to libraries of patient's symptoms in the net. I'd still trust a doctor for final conclusions though :/
@ericdumont43014 жыл бұрын
Human in the loop systems are always more effective than AI or human only systems. Humans who understand what the algorithm is doing will still be needed if only to confirm the AIs output. Radiologists will need a new set of lateral skills covering many imaging technologies and with AI will be able to multiply their current workload. The most likely outcome of widely available AI/Deep Learning diagnostic tools is a expansion of radiologists capability in terms of volume of cases assessed and an evolution of their current responsibilities. Medical schools should be focusing on how humans can work WITH the AI rather than speculating that they will entirely replace the need for human radiologists. The real opportunity, if businesses allow it, isn't eradicating expensive radiologists, it will be to lessen the cost of imaging and make it affordable for a much wider swath of humanity where today only a small fraction of humanity have access to this type advanced medical imaging.
@ajaxthegreatest21914 жыл бұрын
Less than 40,000 radiologists for 300 million potential patients? I'm hyped! let's get some augmentation and reduce these work loads.
@Brandonhayhew4 жыл бұрын
If AI replaces human or eliminate jobs then why bother making AI?
@extremepsyche31354 жыл бұрын
Our future AI overlords will not be pleased with your comment
@Brandonhayhew4 жыл бұрын
extremeblue psyche unless computer engineers decides that there is a problem with their robot
@deletemymind5654 жыл бұрын
more free time? obviously, under our current economic system this will lead to mass unemployment. but economic systems can be changed
@deletemymind5654 жыл бұрын
@Andres Leon "people in asia make nothing compared to americans" this is completely nonsense lol
@markserrano45864 жыл бұрын
For those who don't understand computer programming. This is just simply a narrowing algorithm.this is nothing fancy like machine learning or anything like that this is really simple stuff and it's been around for a long time.
@s.r.65334 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in the future during a Joe Rogan podcast: Elon Musk: "Heh, wait till you see that AI can also be a better school shooter than humans" Joe: "Whoah thats crazy" AI: "So anyways, I started blasting in the school. Never thought water guns would be that fun" Elon Musk ".......yep, they also use memes AND they got you in the first half" Joe: "......" Elon: "What is it Joe" Joe: *frowns* Elon: "no Joe, AI cannot take DMT, it's not possible" Joe: :( I think the future will be great.
@MickeyD20124 жыл бұрын
You are clearly not a great thinker.
@scivnce42734 жыл бұрын
The Original Gamer honestly this video proves none of us are
@forestriver4374 жыл бұрын
Peanuts ThatTasteLikeDepression so you’re a depressed peanut
@Gunner772694 жыл бұрын
If these doctors or medical professionals are even 1% decent at their jobs, they would not be worried about it, celebrate this miracle of technology and medical science because their patients are going to get better care and then get off their asses and do something useful. Anything short of that and they are in the completely wrong profession.
@alphacause4 жыл бұрын
AI is going to threaten most jobs. The question is not if, it is when. The fact that now AI is on the precipice of threatening jobs that require higher levels of education and skill - jobs which pay substantially higher wages - is in one way positive for those who are in lower income brackets. Due to their lack of capital, people on the lower income bracket have a hard time organizing for fairer treatment because those who occupy the upper income bracket, such as doctors, did not share their plight and could not empathize with their predicament. These highly skilled professionals could not relate to those in "blue collar" occupations, and the job insecurity that they face. Hence, these two cohorts never sought common cause politically. Now that those who are part of the upper economic echelon are about to experience the same job insecurity that lower income groups have been experiencing for decades, maybe this will cause both groups to unite for a more equitable society. In this sense AI, and the technical infrastructure that would allow highly skilled jobs to be outsourced to cheaper labor markets, will allow groups that have historically been on opposite sides of the political spectrum to unite.
@darrenyang66264 жыл бұрын
Drake Santiago what r u on who cares if groups unite, if ai is more efficient than a human that job doesn’t need to exist, there’s no “equitable society” where people can choose how a business works when they have no leverage
@dr.z79584 жыл бұрын
For people who do not know, Artifical algorithms have been used in ECG reading for years, up to this point in 2020, they're totally unreliable, in fact some times they provide totally wrong diagnoses. The reason it's hard for A.I to make accurate assessment in Medicine, is that people aren't check lists of symptoms and signs, they're more complicated. Another point is that a specific sign (which computers will be better at detecting) could be life-threading, clue for a diagnosis, or a normal variation in a specific patient. With lots of unprogrammed factors, A.I is still unreliable in Medicine.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
It's a similar situation in medical imaging. AI may be useful for highlighting potential abnormalities and reducing human error but there's a reason it takes a long time to learn how to interpret images. It's not simple and there are so many other factors. You've just made me wonder how accurate those auto defibrillators are that are in some stores and public spaces!
@dr.z79584 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 auto-defibrillators are much simpler, their job is to detect a shockable or non-shockable rythm so accuracy is much compared to an ECG interpretation. But inaccuracies are still a possibility.
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
You're really comparing the 20 year old tech to what's available now? There's also no such thing as an "artificial algorithm" which means you don't know what you're talking about. Did you miss the part where the ML model was 81% while doctors were at 79%? That is proof, your opinion is irrelevant.
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 You don't understand machine learning or "AI" as they call it here. It's perfect for learning how to interpret images through training. Also, it will only improve unlike a human who gets worse as we get too old, lose eyesight etc.
@dr.z79584 жыл бұрын
@@infiltr80r 1- I'm not comparing old to new technology, all these ECG-reading are updates on regular bases. And the ones i'm referring to where up to date. 2- Artificial algorithm, I mean programmed ones. 3- When you compare some statistics out there for ML vs doctors diagnoses, they compare very specific thing that's irrelevant in a general context. 4- What I provided wasn't an opinion, it was a daily practice in Cardiology clinics and in-patients.
@handendaer4 жыл бұрын
First AI is codes made by smart humans. 2nd, many doctor are dogshit. Like u probably can rank ur own colleges at work from dogshit, dogshit, decent and one rly good one, same with doctor but worse cus of The lack of them.
@ARPorganics4 жыл бұрын
The end of this video was the best part. We will use it but dont go crazy like if AI is the next gold rush!
@masseiy4 жыл бұрын
Maybe having ai double checked by human eyes would be a good alternative. Technology has glitches and issues and there has to be fail safes in place.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
This is likely where we are headed and although AI isn't good enough yet it is getting better. Radiologists are great but they're overworked and there are only so many of them. Human error rates in radiology remain constant and ai or techniques like bone subtraction may aid in reducing those errors in the future.
@ahad16092 жыл бұрын
AI will also make the Engineers obsolete. So why do you wonder?
@mihal3336 Жыл бұрын
So 3 years have passed and radiologists are actually rising in numbers.
@user-221i Жыл бұрын
And all along it was the software developers replacing themselves. Except the top %5
@bobaursaathimastimemagan540311 ай бұрын
@@user-221inot really
@mablevins084 жыл бұрын
You know this is disturbing to radiologists currently going through school and training.
@XSpImmaLion4 жыл бұрын
It's not versus, it's a tool. Radiologists can make their own diagnostics and then double check it with the algorithm, nothing wrong with that. It's how lots of diagnostics are already made these days.
@anastyb4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't rely on A.I. soley but I can see this being very in remote places like Alaska and other parts of the world where there aren't big hospitals and many doctors. A.I. is only as good as the person who inputted the information to begin with.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Hospitals in remote areas can send images to be diagnosed to anywhere in the world via the internet. Although that's very expensive, currently so is using A.I.
@MonsterChuck4 жыл бұрын
Good. I had a broken wrist last year that they swore was not broken. Got the images to a second doctor and who told me it was def broken.
@bcptbcpt4 жыл бұрын
These studies, along with those showing comparable accuracy in the diagnosis of malignant melanoma, are obviously fascinating. But the ethical implications of integrating such algorithms in actual clinical practice are far from being clear. Figuring that out will be the real breakthrough.
@growingmelancholy83744 жыл бұрын
it's beautiful that the computer can diagnose me with the disease that it gave me.
@carryminatichota80724 жыл бұрын
What is the site that long haired guy used for scanning the x ray?
@KungFuChess4 жыл бұрын
That last doctor is suffering from clinical case of denial.
@aps1s4 жыл бұрын
dude 1/2 of plane crashes are caused by pilot error. We know that planes can take off and land by themselves. So if you take out the pilots from planes, you half the crash rate.
@nikobelic42513 жыл бұрын
That’s not... No that’s nowhere near true.... pretty much everything you said here was false. The guy made that statement based off the false and common assumption that autopilot flies the plane and not the pilots. That’s not how the autopilot on a plane works. Also without a pilot planes would crash far more often than they do today. The drones are lost at an average rate of 2 per month. Which is far higher than any commercial airliner.
@OnsideHaddock724 жыл бұрын
Doctors should use these programs, but it would be foolish to let a computer be a doctor for many reasons
@09SmashingPumpkins4 жыл бұрын
I approve of this. Medical training and physician salaries are grossly costly. One step closer to affordable healthcare.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Healthcare seems perfectly affordable in many parts of the world, especially outside of the US. Skipping the part where a radiologist glances at your x-ray for 45 seconds isnt going to reduce the cost a whole lot. You still need a bed, a nurse, doctors, radiographers, physios etc. Free healthcare for all paid for by taxes is what people need.
@09SmashingPumpkins4 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 Sadly I live in California :( and this could set precedence for other fields not just radiology. Less misdiagnoses could lead to a speedier recovery without the need for further useless tests and drugs.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
@@09SmashingPumpkins at least you have way nicer weather than me in the uk XD. Im not sure it's that simple, but I don't know as my experience outside of radiology is limited. AI certainly has future potential.
@ACKZink4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see specialists go into the understaffed GP role.
@KennyLeGreat4 жыл бұрын
Isnt this a re-upload from like last year
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
It's not "artificial intelligence" but machine learning. This is good news, huge savings for patients.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact it's more expensive and worse than radiologists at just about everything. So it's great news for people 50 years in the future in countries with free healthcare, potentially.
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 More expensive? It's a piece of code, effectively free. The images are digital anyway. You need to learn to listen. The ML beat radiologists in tests. So your opinion of it being "worse" means nothing.
@oregondude94114 жыл бұрын
This is really important. Doctors and nurses make a lot of mistakes. And they are very biased. The problem is who actually programs the AI.
@ahad16092 жыл бұрын
And computer algorythms not? Do you know what an algorythm is?
@europa_bambaataa4 жыл бұрын
"super chill MRI"
@OfficialTrueStory4 жыл бұрын
Doctor's accuracy is 79% ? Thats pretty low if you ask me.
@abram7304 жыл бұрын
For spotting cancer it's closer to a coin toss.
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
@@abram730 You know we have the internet and can just check 'facts' you come out with right.
@abram7304 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher3786 I know. The internet was made for that. IT was going to lift the human race up.. but social media, so not. Cure for coronavirus also cures cancer by turning on apoptosis for cancer cells.
@troysmith9584 жыл бұрын
If computers gonna take all the jobs and do it better than us like they say whats the use of going to school for years to get a degree
@buttonpusher37864 жыл бұрын
Because its going to take a while for them to take the jobs. Also, with most jobs taken by computers, good luck competing with people with degrees for the few jobs left.
@djrx24 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Radiology firm that has 10 radiologists on staff. They can simply let 8 of them go and buy an AI machine to automate their jobs for the remaining 2 radiologists. This way, fewer radiologists would be needed. This is called efficiency or progress. This happens to every job out there.
@pillows6664 жыл бұрын
Uhhh.. so why is this a vice video again?
@conradonuoha61844 жыл бұрын
What about Cytotechs and MLS?
@stassji50414 жыл бұрын
Do what is best for the patient, even if the Doctor loses her job.
@guptasagar6944 жыл бұрын
Good to see an indian Pranav as computer scientist in USA ...Glad that he left our shit hole poor country , otherwise like many other he would have been just a govt employee taking bribes in india.
@jittojoseph92484 жыл бұрын
People who think ai is to help humanity are living a fools dream all it will do is increase profits for corporation. Most of the videos on this topic is how ai is replacing human at a particular job and no video or less video on how makes human life better.
@TheRaptoer4 жыл бұрын
You have to be very careful with learning algorithms, it's impossible to know what it is that they're looking at. An example of this is the x-ray machine calibration. If hospital A and B are used as training data, but hospital A sees sicker patients while hospital B sees healthier patients, then the algorithm will learn that x-rays that look like they're from hospital A are more likely to be sick.
@Speaks4itself4 жыл бұрын
That's not how it works, they have given their algorithm the data of patients without pneumonia and they have compared it with patients that have pneumonia. So from comparison the algorithm can figure out which patient has pneumonia and which doesn't.
@cmainger31404 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good idea till the power goes out and no one can make a diagnosis.
@xxjr8axx4 жыл бұрын
At that point they will have way bigger problems like all the patients on life support. Not to mention that the xray machine would not work either so the radiologist can't even do their job neither. BTW hospitals have backup generators.
@axelnova1234 жыл бұрын
Without power doctors can't make the diagnosis either...
@guy8724 жыл бұрын
Yea because hospitals don't have backup generators... Not to mention a radiologist can't work without power either. They require power to take the scans that they read. They use power to have computers to look at scans. Power is a moot point.
@TheFoxygrandpa694 жыл бұрын
Do Rio mog oto mr roboto. That songs bit creepy now
@DeepVerma7284 жыл бұрын
Most of the medical field can be automated.
@D76straight4 жыл бұрын
Certainly there is plenty of need for doctors in other areas of medicine.
@pussiojr.99084 жыл бұрын
Every time I see that Vice uploads I’m filled with joy
@alexfahl93814 жыл бұрын
I think its weird that they cut back to the journalist to show head nods. #getsomebroll brrrruh.
@Lazy23324 жыл бұрын
If a fucking computer is going to be diagnosing me my insurance bill better be next to nothing & I better not have any copayments