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Victron Smart Solar Charger Review After 4 Years Of Use. Features, Apps, Wiring Explained.

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@tracynichols7206
@tracynichols7206 Жыл бұрын
Best overall information on the web, very accurate and in depth. Victron pls make notes!
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@keithmcgrath9402
@keithmcgrath9402 9 ай бұрын
Really good 👍 straight to the point, easy to understand, just bought 2 x 100/50 s. Upgrading panels and controllers. My xantrex pwm c60, has been rock solid for 15 years off grid, but the newer mppt is definitely the way to go, hello from Ireland ;)
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, Keith.
@DelmaRaySmithJr
@DelmaRaySmithJr Жыл бұрын
Quick, clear, consise narrative . . . Thank You
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Zcooger
@Zcooger Жыл бұрын
Rocky and Bullwinkle! I think I'm convinced to Victron.
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
A classic!
@joblack3991
@joblack3991 7 ай бұрын
Very clear and detailed presentation... thank you! I have two questions: - How much is the max input voltage from PV... 150V with zero tolerance? - How much is the max input current coming from PV... 20 A or more... with zero tolerance?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 7 ай бұрын
You have to add adjustments for cold temperature s and irradiance. Victron has a calculator for that at www.victronenergy.com/support-and-downloads/software down at the bottom of the page. Its called MPPT Calculator Excel sheet As a ballpark figure, make sure you stay below 120v using your Open-circuit Voltages. As I understand it, the MPPT charger will only pull what it needs and cap amperage there. On my 150/35 model it will never pull more than 35 amps. I believe that refers to 35 charging amps going to the battery, not pulling 35 amps from the solar panels
@joblack3991
@joblack3991 7 ай бұрын
You are conferming my doubts about, data from victron are not so evident and ready to be understandable at the first reading. 120V is a good compromise to Vbatt+5V and 150V is acceptable but 150V maybe regards to Voc of PV.
@WattsOccurring
@WattsOccurring Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, will check out your other vids 👍
@sboy1955
@sboy1955 2 ай бұрын
Good information, well presented. Thanks!
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 3 ай бұрын
Great teacher!
@mountaindan1840
@mountaindan1840 Жыл бұрын
Nice clear and concise. Thanks. I noticed you used 48 volts in one of the settings, but I think said your Chevy batts were 46. Did I miss something?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
The 48-volt setting is a general range of battery... the choices are 12v, 24v, 36v, or 48v. The precise charge voltages are set under absorption and float voltages. I've since upgraded to EG4 Lifepower rack mount batteries, they are still set to the "48v" range, but the charge voltages are much higher than the volt batteries.
@mountaindan1840
@mountaindan1840 Жыл бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC thanks!
@mr.p960
@mr.p960 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video very informative Thank you Sir,
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@stevefatland7704
@stevefatland7704 Жыл бұрын
PWM = Pulse WIDTH Modulation, or so I’ve heard.
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
Yes, it should be "width"... my brain misfired.
@richardphillips2405
@richardphillips2405 8 ай бұрын
Great video.
@natesdiysolar
@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын
Great review and explanation
@capecoaster69
@capecoaster69 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained !
@chronobot2001
@chronobot2001 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. My question is ... Is there a problem if you input too much solar panel power? I have a 1500 watt array that I power my water heater with. When the water is up to temp, the solar panels are electronically disconnected. I would like them to switch over and start topping off the battery bank. Is there a problem feeding 1500 watts at 115 vdc into a 150/45 charger? My thought is the charger will max out at 45 amps with no harm done. What do you think?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
The Victron will limit PV amps to 45. As far as voltage, you have to account for variables like cold temperatures. Victron has a spreadsheet that helps: www.victronenergy.com/upload/software/VE-MPPT-Calc-4_0.xlsm
@ericmed
@ericmed 2 ай бұрын
Looks like your assessment on PWM is incorrect -- PWM does in fact aim to keep the same overall wattage by raising the current when it decreases voltage to match batteries. Albeit more efficient losses.
@tombouie
@tombouie Ай бұрын
Well-Done
@icooper5236
@icooper5236 4 ай бұрын
You can only connect Bluetooth one piece of equipment at a time ie phone or tablet etc
@Mike-ip8hg
@Mike-ip8hg 6 ай бұрын
Hi very good easy to understand video. I’m in the uk just brought victron solar charger 100/20 got a 200w panel could I an another 200w panel to the victron or would I need a bigger unit. Also question on voltage settings for battery on victron float and absorption mode .. I’ve got a renogy 170amp lithium battery what should I set the two voltages at . Thanks mike
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 6 ай бұрын
I've never used either if those, so I can't tell you from experience, However Victron has a calculator on their website where you can see how many panels work with different chargers. See the MPPT calculator excel sheet at the bottom of: www.victronenergy.com/support-and-downloads/software You'll have to get the recommended charging voltages from Renogy.
@kantpredict
@kantpredict 3 ай бұрын
As long as your Voc Max on both panels sums to less then 100v, you're good to put them in series. Do factor in a little overhead if your area is likely to get cold in winter, as this can push the Voc too high and fry your Victron.
@bianchispurs
@bianchispurs 2 жыл бұрын
I have two growatt 3000 in para. and slit phase. They don't seem to charge the battery's fully, I was thinking of going to theses charge controller's, do you think that would be a good idea? Thanks
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 2 жыл бұрын
The victrons are great chargers. What is happening with the growatts?
@bianchispurs
@bianchispurs 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC when they get the battery's up to around 25.6 they stop charging , the battery symbol blinks showing fully charged. The only way I get the battery's to fully charge up to 27 v is to take all loads off the inverters , and let the solar panels or shore power charge only the battery's. I was wondering if a stand alone solar charger would do better? Thanks p.s. I have the charge shut off set to 27.2 in the growatt.
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 2 жыл бұрын
@@bianchispurs Check Setting 2 and 11 to make sure it's charging with enough amps in absorption and float mode. If that doesn't help, The Victron chargers are very flexible. Make sure to pick the right model for your batteries and solar...
@bianchispurs
@bianchispurs 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC Thank you, I will check that.
@john0270
@john0270 Жыл бұрын
on my 12 volt off grid system I have 4 of victron charge controllers, a 75/15, two 100/30's and one 100/50. I have a home assembled 630ah lifepo4 bat. I have the smart shunt to keep track of battery level/current/voltage ect. I would like to limiit the overall current the battery will be charged at without limiting the charge controllers(for supplying the loads) Anyone aware of this being a possibility?
@sludge0351
@sludge0351 4 ай бұрын
Hey mate, my victron app doesn't show any wattage only under load. So you think it's in mt settings? Thank you
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 4 ай бұрын
If you are looking at a charger in the app, you might not see any watts if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is charging you should always see watts on the charger page of the app.
@homersrevenge3691
@homersrevenge3691 10 ай бұрын
Thanks 😁👍
@HBrsz
@HBrsz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Is it possible to set the battery charge voltage? My battery needs to be charged at 12.6V 20A CV/CC, will I be able to set this? Thank you.
@fratermus5502
@fratermus5502 Жыл бұрын
You can limit output current to 20A if you want, and charging setpoints to 12.6v if you want.
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
@@fratermus5502 thanks for answering, I was busy and away from KZfaq this week
@reginaldpotts2037
@reginaldpotts2037 7 ай бұрын
bluetooth does not work well on windows PC I can only setup VE Network on a smart phone. Victron Connect and VRM do work okay though on Win 10
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Gary-wh7ce
@Gary-wh7ce 5 ай бұрын
VE is not supported on Windows platform via bluetooth unless you use a VE.direct to USB cable (non bluetooth). It sucks that we have to buy an andriod device (table) to do the simple stuff.
@CristianZamora
@CristianZamora 2 ай бұрын
Maybe try updating your bluetooth drivers. There may be a driver package with more BT options direct from manufacturer of your BT chip.
@treenopie
@treenopie 7 ай бұрын
Why have two solar chargers instead of one larger one?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 7 ай бұрын
I started with one array of solar panels and charger, added another array and charger a year later. Also adds redundancy in case of a problem with a charger.
@zzzdoerrr2826
@zzzdoerrr2826 5 ай бұрын
Hello. Thank you verry much. It's really helpfull! Is it possible to use victron mppt as a booster. For exemple i have a ebike with a batterie 48v. 25 amp. And a solar panel 100w 12 v ? I want to charge my bike while riding... let's say with a smal victron mppt. Have a nice day!
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 5 ай бұрын
I suppose it MIGHT work... You would have to find a charger that matches both your solar panel and your battery. Victrons need 5v more voltage for solar input than your battery voltage, usually requires multiple panels.
@zzzdoerrr2826
@zzzdoerrr2826 4 ай бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC Thank you!
@casemodder89
@casemodder89 3 ай бұрын
no. it is a step down charger. not step up. if you have a 48V battery you'd need to build a 48V system. and having 2x 40V panels plus a 48V mppt charger would be a proper way of doing this.
@MyChannel-vm6dw
@MyChannel-vm6dw 11 ай бұрын
So for a noob, the 150 / 35 means it can take upto 150 volts VOC and 35 amps input from solar panels. Is that correct?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 11 ай бұрын
Generally, yes. The voltage can be affected by temperature and other factors. Victron has a spreadsheet on its website. 35 amps is the most the charger will pull from the panels, even if the panels can produce more than that.
@MyChannel-vm6dw
@MyChannel-vm6dw 11 ай бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC so...victron mppt controllers can overpanel both voltage and amps then regulate down to their max SAFELY?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 11 ай бұрын
@@MyChannel-vm6dw NO! Overvoltage will fry the charger. It is more complex than just the VOC, you have to account for temperature and other variables. Download the calculator here www.victronenergy.com/upload/software/VE-MPPT-Calc-4_0.xlsm
@MyChannel-vm6dw
@MyChannel-vm6dw 11 ай бұрын
@reelclearmedia4157 thank you!
@herkko61
@herkko61 9 ай бұрын
To my knowledge 35 means the max *output* amps from Victron controller to the battery. For example 35A * 12V = 420W and 35A * 24V = 840W charging the battery.
@imranraza1978
@imranraza1978 Ай бұрын
How much DC load can be run by this ?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Ай бұрын
This model doesn't have any DC load out. Some of the smaller Victron chargers do.
@imranraza1978
@imranraza1978 Ай бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC so you use this only charging batteries ? How you run DC load then ?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Ай бұрын
@@imranraza1978 I don't need to run any DC loads directly. My AC loads come from the inverter, and when the battery is full, the inverter uses solar from battery buss bars, which also connect the Victron chargers. You could also use a DC/DC converter to convert the 48v from the batteries to whatever DC voltage is needed. I just run adapters for the few DC loads I have.
@imranraza1978
@imranraza1978 Ай бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC thanks
@karldingbat
@karldingbat Жыл бұрын
Pulse WIDTH modulation. Not pulse wave modulation
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@karldingbat
@karldingbat Жыл бұрын
Your welcome 🤣😂
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 Жыл бұрын
Are you using 10awg for your pv input?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
8 AWG, mostly because the run is 150' long, so a bigger cable for less resistance and voltage drop.
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 Жыл бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC oh yes, that's true, 8 awg, would be the way to go. How much voltage and current do you have going into, your charge controllers? From your array
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
@@carlosreyes6448 The first array has 15 panels, 160w each. There are three strings, with five panels to each string. The three strings are paralleled using a combiner box.Voltage ranges around 90-100 volts, current average 10-20amps. My max power is around 1700 watts. The second array has 12 panels. Three strings of four panels each. Voltages average 80-90v, current 15-25amps, max power is also around 1700 watts.
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 Жыл бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC I'm thinking about installing 8 rec 420watt panels and running a victron 150/60, it's rated for 3440 watts, but not sure about the configuration I'm thinking about 4 strings, series parallel, but they are rated at 59volts voc, and 8.9 isc,amperage.
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Жыл бұрын
@@carlosreyes6448 Victron has a spreadsheet to help you design arrays for their chargers. Download at the bottom of the support page. www.victronenergy.com/support-and-downloads/software
@robert4027
@robert4027 11 ай бұрын
Having trouble with connection to my android 12 tablet. Currently no problem with my smart phone. Maybe I should uninstall it from my phone then try to connect to my tablet ... anyone else have these issues ?
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 11 ай бұрын
If you're connecting with bluetooth, it may only allow one device at a time. If so, You don't have to uninstall the smart phone app just disconnect from blutooth
@Gary-wh7ce
@Gary-wh7ce 5 ай бұрын
Check to make sure the VeConnect application is supported on android 12. It may be supported now as when I purchased my tablet I chose v11 for that reason if memory serves me
@robert4027
@robert4027 5 ай бұрын
@@Gary-wh7ce i just tried it and now it's working 👍👍. super awesome I'm excited thanks very much
@motsigman
@motsigman 10 ай бұрын
I had the 75/15 fell apart and full of sand.
@ThisIsNotRealityBase
@ThisIsNotRealityBase Ай бұрын
I guess it wasn't real.. They shouldn't be full of sand. 😂
@motsigman
@motsigman Ай бұрын
@@ThisIsNotRealityBase used for cooling open one up.
@freelectron2029
@freelectron2029 7 ай бұрын
*SHOCK*: YOU ARE PUSHING 30A @ 58V into your battery on FLOAT!!! RIP battery life
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 7 ай бұрын
That's 30 amps max into a bank of two EG4 Lifepower4 batteries... each battery gets 15 amps. Their max charging current is 100 amps each, recommended 30-50 amps each. These batteries will be fine.
@freelectron2029
@freelectron2029 7 ай бұрын
@@ReelClearMediaLLC your missing the point.... FLOAT you shouldnt be drawing that much current in FLOAT. you either have crap batterys, crap BMS or as leak somewhere. pushing 1.7KW!! into a full bank thats not doing anyhting?? 1.7KW is not float current.
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 7 ай бұрын
@@freelectron2029 Thanks, I forgot this when video was recorded I was using 6 chevy Volt modules(12S)... The BMS was crap, but with 6 modules, that was about 5 amps/module. Recommended charge was 49.2V per module, I was undercharging to 48V to give the batteries a longer lifespan. I've since switched to EG4 batteries, but I still have the Volt modules I'm going to use for some smaller projects around the homestead.
@tombouie
@tombouie Ай бұрын
FYI Can a mppt Controller work Without a Battery? (absorption voltage) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jraIo9SK08DQho0.html
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC Ай бұрын
That's cool. Thanks! The ones I have (smart solat mppt 150/35) don't have a load out, only battery out.
@donnanorth7324
@donnanorth7324 10 ай бұрын
The title says "after 4 years of use". Why are you comparing to PWM? Later
@ReelClearMediaLLC
@ReelClearMediaLLC 10 ай бұрын
Viewers range from beginners to experienced. Some may not know the value of using an MPPT charger.
@2hotscottpro
@2hotscottpro 9 ай бұрын
Exactly right !
@Thode-R
@Thode-R 9 ай бұрын
Always one😂
@outthere9370
@outthere9370 4 ай бұрын
Click bait!
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 3 ай бұрын
How's this clickbait?
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