Video: 40 years on, Franco's ghost still haunts Spain

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Forty years after the death of dictator Francisco Franco, Spain is still unable to fully move on from its past. The population remains deeply divided between pro and anti-Franco camps. Our reporters went to Madrid to meet those still affected by the memory of El Caudillo.
For many Spaniards, it’s a taboo subject. Some families contain both anti-Franco Republicans and pro-Franco Nationalists, many holding painful secrets from the past. Generations of men and women who grew up after Franco’s rule have sometimes learned during a family gathering that a relative disappeared or was tortured, executed or kidnapped during the civil war (1936-1939) or the dictatorship of General Franco (1939-1975). Atrocities were committed by both sides.
According to the UN, Spain is the country that has experienced the second-largest number of forced disappearances worldwide, after Cambodia. Over 150,000 people went missing during the dark years, according to official figures. Tens of thousands more were tortured and thousands of children stolen from their mothers, who were often communist or left-wing, to be entrusted to "good Catholic families."
Today, more and more Spaniards are seeking justice and compensation. Many want to see their torturers, aged themselves, go to trial. The descendants of those who disappeared also want to know the truth about their ancestors and their fate. In addition to discovering the final resting place of their loved ones, they want to understand more about their own family history. But their appeals often go unanswered; their cases dismissed. For victims and their families, the need for recognition is immense and the fight rife with difficulties.
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@tigerhong1
@tigerhong1 3 жыл бұрын
The losers want their revenge
@painfan476
@painfan476 6 жыл бұрын
This British guy thinks he knows all about Spain and it’s people?! Not interested
@thesocialmediascientistmbe
@thesocialmediascientistmbe 3 жыл бұрын
Not even Spanish people do.
@ragingkoolaidhead4178
@ragingkoolaidhead4178 2 жыл бұрын
@@YT-pm6zt Mexican American here and anti communist also 🤌🏼👌🏽👌🏽
@jdlc903
@jdlc903 2 жыл бұрын
It's a French channel with British newscaster cry harder
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
@@jdlc903 funny since you're here foo
@joebiernacki7346
@joebiernacki7346 6 жыл бұрын
Any comments on the Republican Government and their Soviet support? Russia sent tanks, planes, artillery and light weaponry. Most importantly sent Soviet military advisors and political cadre. In return they were allowed to "borrow" all of Spain's gold reserve. The shipments didn't even reach Russia intact having be pilfered enroute. Spain has never seen that gold againi.
@Jim-Tuner
@Jim-Tuner 5 жыл бұрын
Its even worse than that. The gold was sent off in secret weeks after the civil war broke out and with no specific promise from the Soviets of anything in exchange for it. When aid was eventually given by the Soviets, it was always given in exchange for political concessions that increased the power of the communist party in the government of the republic and inevitably most of the soviet aid ended up in the hands of army units dominated by the community party. If the republic was a real government whose priority was winning the war, they would have beaten the nationalists. At the start, they had the money, the industry and the population (numbers) to win. But their first action in the conflict was to sent the wealth of the country (and the republic) off to Russia where it was never seen again. Rather than build an army, they let the political parties create private armies. Rather than build a war industry, they led a revolutionary effort to destroy business in the areas they controlled.
@theleninist4272
@theleninist4272 3 жыл бұрын
Well if the governments of France and Britain and the other western democracies had allowed the democratic government of the Spanish Republic to buy weapons to defend its self from a military coup , then the Spanish government would not have had to go to the Soviet Union to buy arms, whether you liked the Spanish government or not under international law it should have been able to buy weapons , but the ruling class of the so called western democracies were in sympathy with Fascism , they prefered a miltary dictatorship rather than a democratic Leftwing Republican government in Spain.
@foghornfoggyface
@foghornfoggyface 3 жыл бұрын
@@theleninist4272 Thank you for checking the ignoramus who replied before you
@georgewilkie3580
@georgewilkie3580 5 ай бұрын
Mucho Gracias, Joebiernaki, Mucho Gracias! You're a Man of courage and honor!
@seanflynncontact
@seanflynncontact 5 жыл бұрын
Are these English people going to put up memeorials in London for the Irish they killed during the troubles in Northern Ireland. High moral ground is a tough place to be.
@billyb6001
@billyb6001 5 жыл бұрын
They put them in Belfast.......
@franciscorodriguez7321
@franciscorodriguez7321 5 жыл бұрын
exactly
@JonathanLopez-sk7ty
@JonathanLopez-sk7ty 5 жыл бұрын
Is the IRA going to do likewise for all the innocent people they killed through their bombing campaign?
@markharrison2544
@markharrison2544 5 жыл бұрын
Harold Wilson sent the British army to Ulster to protect Catholics from loyalist paramilitaries.
@eliaskotzakidis8773
@eliaskotzakidis8773 5 жыл бұрын
Though you might be right to complain for british attrocities in Northern Ireland, your IRA has not been exactly innocent... And, in any case, it has nothing to do with appauling regimes like Franco's Spain and others... Greetings from Greece.
@alexnisbet9262
@alexnisbet9262 6 жыл бұрын
This is sooo historically inaccurate...
@williamleath8370
@williamleath8370 2 жыл бұрын
Atrocities would have been committed on both sides of the conflict; that is how human nature works unfortunately. It is the responsibility, the duty, of every journalist and reporter to give a fair and unbiased account in their story. Media Accountability.
@edgarmhtablet
@edgarmhtablet 10 ай бұрын
Unbiased studies prove you wrong. You don’t have to look hard to find them.
@shell2791
@shell2791 9 ай бұрын
Violence is not part of human nature.
@unity5501
@unity5501 6 жыл бұрын
"Mocks the crowd as he leaves court" he waved lol
@mellowbear6817
@mellowbear6817 4 жыл бұрын
You dont think its mocking if hes waving to a crowd of people hes tortured or have lost loved ones because of his brutal tortures??
@reddyforlenny9389
@reddyforlenny9389 4 жыл бұрын
@@mellowbear6817 Its A Fukin Wave
@mappingchannelcanadian1528
@mappingchannelcanadian1528 3 жыл бұрын
@@reddyforlenny9389 it is a wave but he is mocking them
@asianlifter
@asianlifter 3 жыл бұрын
@@mellowbear6817 yes.
@articueilacoryphaeusdux5941
@articueilacoryphaeusdux5941 2 жыл бұрын
@@mellowbear6817 I wonder how many people would torture Spanish Stalinist regime that almost took over Spanish Republic during the Civil War.
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine to see the grandchildren of Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Dzerzhinsky, Tuchachevsky, Beria, Blochin, Yagoda to claim their grandfathers were victims of regime if they would have lost to Russians.
@Smudgeroon74
@Smudgeroon74 2 жыл бұрын
Bolshevik butchers.
@bootdude7527
@bootdude7527 4 жыл бұрын
This just in Franco is still dead his condition is stable
@lorinelson8152
@lorinelson8152 6 жыл бұрын
When you deny the facts rather than show their ugly truths, what lessons can be learned?
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 11 ай бұрын
On both sides!
@jamesunsworth6865
@jamesunsworth6865 3 жыл бұрын
I was in Málaga the day Francisco Franco died, you COULD NOT BUY A BOTTLE OF CAVA, ANYWHERE!!!!! I rest my case.
@mrhaggin429
@mrhaggin429 5 жыл бұрын
No matter who won, Spain was in for a tough time. The 20th century saw over 100 million non combatants perish from communism.
@foghornfoggyface
@foghornfoggyface 3 жыл бұрын
What a ridiculous comment
@elmaromero2289
@elmaromero2289 2 жыл бұрын
@@foghornfoggyface COMUNISTA HGP
@shell2791
@shell2791 9 ай бұрын
100 million? From what?
@habitainnova6351
@habitainnova6351 4 жыл бұрын
Rigged documentary, why didn’t they told the whole story? Why did Franco rebel against the government? Please answer that question
@100Mmore
@100Mmore 4 жыл бұрын
Because he was a reactionary
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
Why does it matter why he rebeled? He and his regime commited crimes against humanity. Thats it. End of story. If the opposite side did the same, I would condemn them as well, but you seem like defending a nazi regime
@irishcream9004
@irishcream9004 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rainaman- cry in hell Commie
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
@@irishcream9004 I am against state telling me what to do and taking my freedoms away. In my eyes Franco=Commie regime. But ok, nazi bootlicker. You do you.
@IvyThePoisonous
@IvyThePoisonous 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rainaman- tell me was republic of spain going to be much better?
@RossBayCult
@RossBayCult 3 жыл бұрын
Defeating communists and communism sounds a like a victory to me.
@shawnv123
@shawnv123 2 жыл бұрын
stfu
@ragingkoolaidhead4178
@ragingkoolaidhead4178 2 жыл бұрын
Great victory!
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 2 жыл бұрын
Franco's Spain was a victory to you? Get some fucken help sheesh
@thelaffingllama
@thelaffingllama 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a video about spooky ghost stories
@MrPaultopp
@MrPaultopp 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmm
@BRYANBRYAN-tr6rx
@BRYANBRYAN-tr6rx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from spain 🇪🇸🇪🇸
@hitsugayatoshiro9517
@hitsugayatoshiro9517 3 жыл бұрын
Arriba España
@BRYANBRYAN-tr6rx
@BRYANBRYAN-tr6rx 3 жыл бұрын
@@hitsugayatoshiro9517 eres español?
@caesar7277
@caesar7277 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know enough about the Franco era, but I'm so sick of all leftist media when they describe citizens today as "extreme right" because they have a different view of the past or current political systems.
@blackbird7048
@blackbird7048 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to democracy. If you are tire of people criticizing alternative universe. Many of us are tire to be displaced and torture for doing the same.
@davidroberts7282
@davidroberts7282 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackbird7048 The mainstream media are not historians. Therefore, who gave them the right to dictate or use their morally high ground positions to attempt to re-write history or present one-sided, blatant depictions or distortions of history as if it so obvious or clear to Spaniards living in the 1930s which political system was best for them. The Spanish Civil War, like much of Spanish history, is complex, multi-faceted, multi-dimensional and in some respects, contradictory and reactionary. I kind of compare the Spanish Civil War to 17th century English Civil War between Charles I Royalists and Cromwells Parliamentarians. Both sides in the conflict had men and factions that were fighting for distinctly different views of English government, society, religion, and identity. There were the Levellers faction, Cromwells moderate Parliamentarians who wanted essentially a constitutional monarchy form of govrrnment(which is what essentially what occurred anyway in the long term) and you had Royalists who believed Charles I should rule like an enlightened despot in the form of French Bourbon dynasty of absolute rule Louis XIV epitomized. It was a very similar series of circumstances with Spanish Civil War except there were more countries involved, far more deaths, and a far more brutal, longer-lasting dictatorship that emerged following the war.
@mbert7537
@mbert7537 5 жыл бұрын
Wuahaha you dont know nothing about him and still have a opinion.
@RR-nf3qh
@RR-nf3qh 5 жыл бұрын
Shaun S Dude if Franco supporters aren't extreme rightists then who is. you guys call social democrats and liberals socialists and communists. I have some advice for you mate if you don't know about an issue keep your mouth shut
@jrhamersma3248
@jrhamersma3248 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Bravo Funny that the people who oppose leftist for being repressive support national Catholicism.
@patrickvernon2749
@patrickvernon2749 3 жыл бұрын
Haunts? You mean gives hope
@Albert-Arthur-Wison225
@Albert-Arthur-Wison225 Жыл бұрын
Here in Japan the equivalent apologists of mass-murder and every variation on hideous repression are equally tolerated. But, thankfully, far more of a fringe element than they apparently represent in Spain.
@michaelpaulpadillamdacgrou7904
@michaelpaulpadillamdacgrou7904 3 жыл бұрын
Communist and Anarchist subjected to their own tactics and ruthlessness, pardon me for not shedding a tear!
@justice1890
@justice1890 6 жыл бұрын
Spain government is constantly manipulating, not only in politics but in justice, media and police departments. Spain has a great problem with democracy and respect. It's violating basic human rights.
@edstar83
@edstar83 3 жыл бұрын
Spain just the rest of the west has been infiltrated and subverted.
@RW-kp3wr
@RW-kp3wr 6 жыл бұрын
Why did French TV need to hire a femmy British person? There aren't any French people who speak English?
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
You want to listen to thick French accent?
@Hands2HealNow
@Hands2HealNow 6 жыл бұрын
Courage among men is precious. Their pursuit of truth is all our treasure. Compassion, critics thinking, are the way forward.
@SloppyD7691
@SloppyD7691 Жыл бұрын
W's in the chat
@Joker-cc5nv
@Joker-cc5nv 6 жыл бұрын
Julian, thanks to you for this link! Love you!!
@catalinmihaidobre2391
@catalinmihaidobre2391 9 ай бұрын
Spain saved from the horrific fate if the Eastern Europe under communism.
@Silvertone58
@Silvertone58 5 жыл бұрын
"Our top story tonight: Generalisimo Francisco Franco is still dead" - Chevy Chase
@natellabardus6256
@natellabardus6256 2 жыл бұрын
In Spain he's still alive.
@leenobody3249
@leenobody3249 3 жыл бұрын
Did Franco die of Covid too? Boing !
@collydub1987
@collydub1987 4 жыл бұрын
This comment section is something else.....
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
Bunch of nazi loving right wingers who turn the blind eye to crimes against humanity.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
@Pro Shooter bunch of what ifs? The matter of the fact is - Franko killed and took away many freedoms. I bet you don't live in Catalonia - people there have told me all kinds of stories from Franco times. Just admit his regime was brutal. I am not saying the opposite would of been better, but this is about admiting the facts here. Not doing so makes you look like a nazi.
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
Shows people are awake and not delusional
@patcom1013
@patcom1013 6 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is examine what Communism has done in other countries to come to the obvious conclusion.
@gregorybell9833
@gregorybell9833 4 жыл бұрын
I love Franco. He saved Spain
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
This is not about economy. This is about crimes against humanity. Don't defend a nazi regime
@ml4950ml
@ml4950ml 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rainaman- it wasn’t
@shrek_has_swag2344
@shrek_has_swag2344 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rainaman- it was fascist, not national socialist
@alexkoppers7882
@alexkoppers7882 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't excuse what he did.
@springtrapstarwar5557
@springtrapstarwar5557 5 жыл бұрын
What about the king of Spain what does he react to this Franco
@Smudgeroon74
@Smudgeroon74 2 жыл бұрын
Springtrap star wars fan Juan Carlos was king in 1975 after Franco died, but who was the Spanish king in the 1930's please, if you can help me?
@shanehughes480
@shanehughes480 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smudgeroon74 Alfonso 13 he Abdicated in early 30s
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 3 жыл бұрын
USA Franklin Delano Roosevelt supported the REPUBLIC of Spain and wanted to send aid to them. FACT
@martinpospisil3747
@martinpospisil3747 Жыл бұрын
If communism is so great why so many people tried to escape it?? I never heard anyone trying desperately escaping Francos Spain.
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 Жыл бұрын
The Second Republic were not even communists but social democrats. How come most people like you are not educated on the manner?
@martinpospisil3747
@martinpospisil3747 Жыл бұрын
@@asturiasceltic3183 Idk If you know how to read? I never said Spain was communist you little twerp. I compared Francos Spain to any communist country like for example Czechoslovakia. Btw my parents grew up in Communist Czechoslovakia so I know more about this subject than you ever will. Learn how to read.
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
Ikr Arriba España! Adelante España!
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 Жыл бұрын
And you gotta be kidding no one tried to escape Franco. A lot of Buenos Aires is filled with Spaniards trying to flee him. Read about the family of John Casablancas, father of Julian lead singer of the Strokes. And many who didn't flee him but died fighting him or jailed or just lived under the oppression
@gambinogambinos2439
@gambinogambinos2439 4 жыл бұрын
Spain ''Kosovo is Serbia, we are against islamic state''. Catalonia ''Kosovo is not Serbia, we support Kosovo, new islamic state''. So which side are you on ?
@Bronson37848
@Bronson37848 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with Islam jack. My grandfather is from Kosovo and he’s Albanian Catholic
@edstar83
@edstar83 3 жыл бұрын
Catalonia thinks its a separate country.
@gambinogambinos2439
@gambinogambinos2439 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bronson37848 Only 2% of kosovo albanians are catholics. So it's more islamic state than those from middle east.
@Smudgeroon74
@Smudgeroon74 2 жыл бұрын
Gambino Gambinos you say 2% of Kosovo Albanians are catholic. I don't know where you got that figure from. My studies have revealed it's 15%. Bit of a difference?
@gambinogambinos2439
@gambinogambinos2439 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smudgeroon74 It's official sources. In Macedonia christian catholics even don't exist. Only Albania and Montenegro are states where live some Albanians with christian origin, other state 2 or 1 procent or almost zero.
@egeo.9645
@egeo.9645 4 жыл бұрын
Spanish Civil War 2: The trio of right, left and catalonia.
@angyliv8040
@angyliv8040 4 жыл бұрын
You’re talking about the two main cleavages in any modern country. Nothing new.
@iane1022
@iane1022 4 жыл бұрын
And the Republicans were angels, correct?
@mellowbear6817
@mellowbear6817 4 жыл бұрын
No one is saying nor implying that in the video. What they want is justice for the crimes commited by the regime. The fact that the republicans, tho primarily republican backed millitias, carrier out crimes does not justify nor diminish the crimes of the francoist regime. Is it that hard to understand??
@FAILoZOFF
@FAILoZOFF 4 жыл бұрын
@@mellowbear6817 It is. Should they just lay down on the ground and let the red plague wash over them, with all its stealing, raping and killing? Violence against violence.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
Republicans were not nazis who enslaved people you dick weed
@alvaro4867
@alvaro4867 3 жыл бұрын
Reinis Miks they killed my great grandfather for attending mass but whatever.
@chopeda5822
@chopeda5822 2 жыл бұрын
@@FAILoZOFF by which you mean a fashist coup against a duley formed democratic government
@titakristengco
@titakristengco 6 жыл бұрын
They what blame not justice
@mudchair16
@mudchair16 6 жыл бұрын
Franco was the best leader Spain ever had since Ferdinand and Isabella.
@JavierPerez-hj7rv
@JavierPerez-hj7rv 5 жыл бұрын
Is the three best since Isabella , Carlos 1 and Felipe 2
@alejandrokaplan7243
@alejandrokaplan7243 5 жыл бұрын
No Charles the 5th was great
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 2 жыл бұрын
Man there must not be much competition for that position then
@josenico_ch8014
@josenico_ch8014 3 жыл бұрын
Viva Chile y Arriba España! Viva Cristo Rey!!
@nascoca2275
@nascoca2275 2 жыл бұрын
Hispanic nationalist 🤮
@kevinurtv4160
@kevinurtv4160 2 жыл бұрын
@@nascoca2275 eww u communist 🤢🤮
@josenico_ch8014
@josenico_ch8014 2 жыл бұрын
@@nascoca2275 Nas Coca 🤢🤮🤮
@historybuff0393
@historybuff0393 5 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt that Franco was a dictator and dissidents suffered under him; however, I don't think that Communists should cry and complain about oppression when they supported an extremely oppressive system themselves, much worse than Spain's, especially under Stalin.
@mememagician2228
@mememagician2228 7 жыл бұрын
This video isn't biased at all... But seriously, even though I'm not a fascist how would the republic be any better than Franco? The republic would of eventually become communist and communism in Spain was a disease. It hated Christianity and the monarchy which were very big parts of Spanish culture and life, and communism was completely new in Spain and had no place in it. Most historians agree that the Spanish civil war was a fight between fascism and communism, and fascism is much better than communism.
@carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
@carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 6 жыл бұрын
The Republic was instated by some reasons in the first place. Among others, because the people was tired of those big latifundists who kept rural people poor and urban people being constantly deceived by previously pacted electoral fraud. If you support Franco's dictatorship you are a Francoist. Period. And even if the republic was chaotic, at least it was democratic and had a multi-party system.
@ninguhosaptot
@ninguhosaptot 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Darcy Puccini, the thing is that falangist canons where blessed by Spanish bishop during Spanish Civil War. And the most part of the church in Spain had enormous power and helped to maked poor people assume the injustice and unfairness as part of God's will.
@Jim-Tuner
@Jim-Tuner 5 жыл бұрын
The republic lost the war because it wasn't even a republic. It was a confederation of gangs each with their own private army and each intending to massacre all the others at the conclusion of the civil war. Their priority was never to win. Within weeks of the rebellion breaking out in 1936, they shipped 510 tons of the country's gold reserves (75%) in secret from the central bank in Madrid to Moscow. They couldn't build a national army, they couldn't run an economy and they couldn't maintain law or order within the territory they controlled. And at the end, the leaders simply abandoned the country and their followers. They got away to safety while those who trusted them were simply abandoned to Franco. The big talkers like La Pasionaria were, when it came to it, not willing to even fight to the end. Their lives were simply too important to be lost fighting in Spain.
@franktreml3145
@franktreml3145 3 жыл бұрын
Shame Billy the Kidd was able to escape justice and live his life out as a free man. That is terrible.
@friendoftellus5741
@friendoftellus5741 Жыл бұрын
Hear, hear, hear !!!!
@martinrabellrodriguez4551
@martinrabellrodriguez4551 4 жыл бұрын
Why cant we leave it be people. If a nation does not remember its history its doomed to repeat it. Sad. There were crimes on both sides hopefully Spain can move on from this..
@barbakanka
@barbakanka 3 жыл бұрын
yes, but on one side the crimes were quite a lot more since the were at power quite a long time. Very convinient for the attackers from Francos fan club to "let it be" since they are still alive, not like their victims
@davidjohnson4298
@davidjohnson4298 5 жыл бұрын
Fraco was a great man
@Eric-tc8iv
@Eric-tc8iv 5 жыл бұрын
David Johnson you’re so dumb to the point that it’s mind boggling
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
Just like Hitler and Stalin.
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
@@Eric-tc8iv you made no argument.
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336 3 жыл бұрын
13:00 look at the grandson of anarchist suggested to take down the Cross!!! And they are questioning why their grandfathers were persecuted?
@pablorodriguez2950
@pablorodriguez2950 8 жыл бұрын
There was an Amnesty in 1977
@johndavis8669
@johndavis8669 7 жыл бұрын
Yea that is correct. Mexico and Yugoslavia decided to recognize the post Franco system
@gayleralan
@gayleralan 7 жыл бұрын
Honest question: If you or your family were on the other side and say...your mother or father was tortured, wouldn't you want some form of justice or would you just brush it off and say "there was an amnesty in 1977"!?
@rocha333
@rocha333 5 жыл бұрын
Tortures by the secret police has always existed, even today.
@iwilitu6591
@iwilitu6591 7 жыл бұрын
I hate to admit it but communism would have been worse
6 жыл бұрын
Most republicans weren't communists.
@ninguhosaptot
@ninguhosaptot 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Iwhish... the thing is that the general Franco did a coup d'état against the democratic regime. Because the democratic regimen hadn't enough troops and army to beat Franco asked help from the only country that wanted to, Rusia. Thought Spain had to pay that "help" with gold. The rest of Europe thought that it is OK if falangist and communist kill each other in Spain's internal affair. But Franco had the help from Mussolini and Hitler's modern army and weapons. Those modern weapons that Hitler could the test in Spain where used later against Europeans and Americans in IIWR. So no, definitely no, it will be best if from the beginning that the rest of European countries help Spain against the falangist coup d'état.
@JackGriffin745
@JackGriffin745 6 жыл бұрын
Almost anything is better than Communism.
@evzenvarga9707
@evzenvarga9707 6 жыл бұрын
IWishILivedInTheUSA !!! Fascism isnt that bad if practiced right.
@TheDMRZproductions
@TheDMRZproductions 6 жыл бұрын
Fil the coup was not a falangist take over.The Right Wing was made up of mostly conservatives and reactionaries, which could contain the falagist elements from taking the coalition over.The Left alliance known as the Popular front was a coalition of Spanish Republicans, socialist, communist, and the CNT. The Republicans could not contain the members of the far left (CNT, Communists, etc.) as they were egged on by Soviet military advisors to try and take control of the popular front. Franco united the right to prevent this from happening. After Franco took power he would act out against the falangist who stepped out line.
@songkok7hitam
@songkok7hitam 5 жыл бұрын
Better Franco than Stalin.
@Ahmed-yy3gn
@Ahmed-yy3gn 6 жыл бұрын
Why you no like franco
@bnkundwa
@bnkundwa 5 жыл бұрын
There is no peace without mediation.
@rogerhughes4128
@rogerhughes4128 8 ай бұрын
Interviewing the Franco foundation spokesman vice president and airing his statement that “the regime didn’t torture at all,” without follow up questioning, or comment. Not a great example of journalism.
@georgelabe-assimo4365
@georgelabe-assimo4365 6 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that both sides were terrible?
@sithersproductions
@sithersproductions 6 жыл бұрын
George Labe-Assimo franco saved spain from democracy and communism
@ViperGBTwitchdaftrajy
@ViperGBTwitchdaftrajy 5 жыл бұрын
George Labe-Assimo enlightened centrist spotted
@hebneh
@hebneh 6 жыл бұрын
I see by the comments here that that there's still a whole lot of "fascism is great" attitude prevalent in the world.
@StoopidAnimul
@StoopidAnimul 3 жыл бұрын
God bless Franco and Spain!
@shawnv123
@shawnv123 2 жыл бұрын
okay commie
@StoopidAnimul
@StoopidAnimul 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnv123 You got it backwards, dummy.
@axsemotel
@axsemotel 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnv123 actually the USSR supported the second Spanish republic and not Franco in the civil war
@ahwmahwm5533
@ahwmahwm5533 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnv123 franco was anti commie u idiot
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336 3 жыл бұрын
I would say it would be fare to put the victims of international communism across the victims and "victims" of national dictatorship.
@z0h33y
@z0h33y 7 жыл бұрын
Spain needs Franco
@magnuscritikaleak5045
@magnuscritikaleak5045 5 жыл бұрын
z0h silly little bloody plunker.
@josemendes6372
@josemendes6372 4 жыл бұрын
Why
@XX-cv6fq
@XX-cv6fq 2 жыл бұрын
Spain's super hero, the greatest Spaniard of all
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@freedomwhenneeded
@freedomwhenneeded 3 жыл бұрын
Haunts spain? His early years in rule he was a horrible dictator, but you cant appease people who want to destroy christianity and culture just so then people could earn a bit more money, he did a lot of things right to those communists (not everything). He also asks for forgiveness in his final words, him doing something in 1936 doesnt effect spain negatively what so ever, how about talk how he basically brought democracy back to spain after electing juan carlos as his successor knowing his intent? "It has always been my desire to be a faithful son of the church, in whose bosom I shall die. I ask forgiveness from all, as I give my most heartfelt forgiveness to those who declared themselves my enemies." -Franco
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 3 жыл бұрын
The Republic of Spain were comprised mostly of social democrats. Who wanted democratic elections where every vote counts, including for the poor people, a woman's right to vote, a right to a divorce, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of expression, freedom of exchange of ideas, worker's compensation. That is why George Orwell joined the Republic and wrote 1984 about Franco. Hemingway sympathized with the Republic along with USA President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who wanted to send aid to the Republic
@markdebark5248
@markdebark5248 Жыл бұрын
@@asturiasceltic3183 "Who wanted democratic elections where every vote counts, including for the poor people, a woman's right to vote, a right to a divorce" it is arguable that these things are net positives for society. Just look at the absolute societal decay of modern Western countries. Also the Republicans were not innocent- they killed priests & nuns by the tens of thousands. Franco saved Spain from the communists, anti-Catholics, and nihilists.
@Trecesolotienesdos
@Trecesolotienesdos 11 ай бұрын
Total nonsense.
@enriquemartinez5213
@enriquemartinez5213 7 жыл бұрын
Excelente documental, lo recomendaré ampliamente.
@georgewilkie3580
@georgewilkie3580 5 ай бұрын
Very well done comedy!
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336
@alexandermustafin-wiszniew1336 3 жыл бұрын
For sure there is no heaven on this earth and for sure people do make mistakes. It is also not so easy to do everything clearly by the tiny road of law when you have to deal with the communists (terrorists) and the people are under their influence. If the children persecuted mention are true the questions are coming who they are, how old were at that time, what was the final result after the arrest, were other measures taken, for the instance towards elder people were trying to use children for the instance, and so on. Apart from that overall often of time accusing the children probably doesn't seem a right thing. Apart from that thing mention and some possible mistakes and from what I know I would say Francisco Franco saved the Kingdom of Spain from the worst thing could happen to his homeland at that time. Saying being a Russian. Trust me, you just research what the communists and their successors have done to my country and still doing(KGB does still exist with it's head Putin were bombing Russian houses in 1999 to put his rating up the ladder to make him elected and many-many-many other crimes). RF is successor of USSSR which is criminal terrorist organisation so as the CHK - KGB occupied most part of the Russian Empire which are in charge of many brutal crimes as well as brainwashing the people as well as the many crimes across the world and some which I would call quite many until today. Most of the "RF" diplomats are KGBsts or people are under their influence.
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 2 жыл бұрын
I'd consider The Franocists terrorists too buddy. Why is everyone here so hell bent on what aboutism. THEY BOTH SUCKED. WHY CAN'T ANYONE SAY IT.
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 2 жыл бұрын
When ur so afraid of a repressive state you are okay with a repressive state LOL
@markharrison2544
@markharrison2544 5 жыл бұрын
Franco should have liberated Gibraltar in 1940.
@olivergrumitt8033
@olivergrumitt8033 3 жыл бұрын
Since most People in Gibraltar wanted, and still want to stay British, if Franco had taken Gibraltar, it could not be described as “ liberation”.
@jericoblazo2075
@jericoblazo2075 6 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace franco
@MrPaultopp
@MrPaultopp 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
@@MrPaultopp yo mama
@davedavis4705
@davedavis4705 6 жыл бұрын
Franco was a spanish hero!
@2UNIEK
@2UNIEK 5 жыл бұрын
Raven Rachel Roth Stick to your low iq capeshit.
@blackbird7048
@blackbird7048 5 жыл бұрын
@theubergamer67 You're dislexic! Which is a lot worse...
@blackbird7048
@blackbird7048 5 жыл бұрын
@2UNIEK His/er IQ is a zillion times higher than your favorite dictator.
@tamaiantama
@tamaiantama 5 жыл бұрын
Or he wasn't a hero at all. But he was the lesser of two evils. Had the communists and anarchists won, Spanish rich culture won't survive as it is now. Many former communists countries lost their cultural heritage.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Catalonians you schmuck
@runner1984
@runner1984 2 жыл бұрын
Upper class in Spain long for his return.
@chopeda5822
@chopeda5822 2 жыл бұрын
Capitalists and aristocrats love fashism
@kylephilipe8347
@kylephilipe8347 7 жыл бұрын
Franco was a hero
@katherinesparkes6860
@katherinesparkes6860 7 жыл бұрын
To who ?
@MrMatthiasSchneider
@MrMatthiasSchneider 7 жыл бұрын
Right-wing douchebags
@virginiadare3612
@virginiadare3612 7 жыл бұрын
To Spain
@virginiadare3612
@virginiadare3612 7 жыл бұрын
Marxist dog
@kylephilipe8347
@kylephilipe8347 7 жыл бұрын
KATHERINE SPARKES Who, in your opinion, was a hero during this time period?
@yevaburshteyn6938
@yevaburshteyn6938 3 жыл бұрын
It's very sad that still no justice inSpain.
@prosymbian4814
@prosymbian4814 2 жыл бұрын
there is not justice for infidels and reds
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 4 ай бұрын
Long live the Republic and democracy
@markwoods1504
@markwoods1504 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant film it’s apparent that Spain hasn’t and will not move on from Franco, my Great Uncle died there as a member of the International Brigade he was captured at the Battle Of Aragon and then shot by firing squad, no Geneva Convention there and Franco wouldn’t even let them lie in peace when they were dead he had there bodies moved. With hundreds of International Brigade soldiers and up to a Million Spanish dead under Franco why is the Spanish Government still protecting him and what’s even worse keeping his family in a lap of luxury while some Spaniards starve in its country’s long recession.
@alandunne2728
@alandunne2728 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Woods your great uncle should have minded his own business.
@carlosgarciafernandez1536
@carlosgarciafernandez1536 5 жыл бұрын
@@alandunne2728 His great uncle was a hero who came to fight for democracy and freedom against nazi and fascist barbarism. Thanks to people like him, Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945.
@rockwellsghost9869
@rockwellsghost9869 2 жыл бұрын
Your uncle was either a communist, anarchist or a sympathizer. He deserved his fate.
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
@@carlosgarciafernandez1536 was a hero for trying to fight for a totalitarian communist regime? People like you are the issue nowadays
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
I'm being real honest here: your uncle deserved what he got. Fighting for a abominable ideology called communism? Buzz off bozo. People shouldn't feel sorry for you or your great uncle.
@Meridian24
@Meridian24 3 жыл бұрын
Long live Franco!
@MrPaultopp
@MrPaultopp 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to burst your bubble but he’s dead
@Meridian24
@Meridian24 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPaultopp No shit Sherlock. I meant his spirit.
@revolutionariesoffreedom2374
@revolutionariesoffreedom2374 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up commie fascist
@antonralph6947
@antonralph6947 Жыл бұрын
Highly inaccurate
@jorgejohnson451
@jorgejohnson451 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry. The fascist salutes kind of undermine the pro-Franco forces.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
Nazis be nazis
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake 5 жыл бұрын
Even taking his autocratic rule into consideration, there's no arguing that Francoist Spain was at least FUNCTIONAL, with an economy and social structure mirroring many Western-European countries. The reason Franco never had to resort to the extremities of totalitarian rule is because he never did much to upset the balance of society. For this reason he remains a dangerous example of how fascism can form a workable society, and so in the decades following his death the left have feverishly sought to overstate his repressive actions. If the communists had won, not only would Spanish heritage be destroyed, but Spain would have been impoverished, and used by the Soviets as an extension of their influence. Never forget that the left present you with Francoism as an alternative to free democracy, but their ACTIONS at the time were not in this direction. George Orwell based his novel "1984" on the disillusionment he felt with the Spanish socialists, after fighting alongside them. THAT was their nature. They were not victims of Franco, they were creatures far worse than he.
@radishfox308
@radishfox308 4 жыл бұрын
This needs to be pinned at the top! Well said.
@yurichtube1162
@yurichtube1162 4 жыл бұрын
A fascist is the worst
@foghornfoggyface
@foghornfoggyface 3 жыл бұрын
How dare you try to claim Orwell's "1984" stems from his experience with the "Spanish socialists" in an effort to bolster your own argument. He drew inspiration from many experiences in writing that book and he would turn in his grave to listen to you now. The Spanish civil war inspiration was derived from the COMMUNIST (not socialist) faction loyal to Stalin in the war. This faction would later turn on the communists who were opposed to Stalin as well as anarchists and socialists alike. This comment disgusts me because you speak with knowledge and yet still spread misinformation. And then to quote "1984" of all things while doing that. Oh dear, the irony..
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
@@foghornfoggyface lol cry harder
@feudinggreeks3316
@feudinggreeks3316 5 ай бұрын
​@@foghornfoggyface "How dare you" Oh my, don't go Gollum Greta Thunberg on us!
@Euriel1
@Euriel1 6 жыл бұрын
Franco was not better than Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, or Salazar. Spain should finally distantiate itself from this ghost
@eteone1
@eteone1 5 жыл бұрын
Mussolini and hitler destroy his countries.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 5 жыл бұрын
Like Stalin had great plans for Spain.
@FatrickAteman
@FatrickAteman 6 жыл бұрын
germany is sort of a shining example of how to apologize for fascism
@user-wz7in1sd2w
@user-wz7in1sd2w 3 жыл бұрын
He was the saviour of the spain from the ruthless communists and anti spain parties god bless his soul
@barbakanka
@barbakanka 3 жыл бұрын
hm so it is ok to torture people and live like nothing happened
@user-wz7in1sd2w
@user-wz7in1sd2w 3 жыл бұрын
@@barbakanka its not ok to tourture people but to the leftists and communists you gotta be ruthless given the status of his time if you look at hitler mao stalin etc he was a saint compared to them
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-wz7in1sd2w okay so it's okay to torture people if you deem it necessary is what you are saying. Can you admit Franco and Stalin etc sucked?
@adr1annn129
@adr1annn129 2 жыл бұрын
When ur so afraid of a repressive state you are okay with a repressive state LOL
@chunksloth
@chunksloth Жыл бұрын
@@adr1annn129 Franco was the better of the two options, period. And it's not even close. Criticizing him is valid, but demonizing him is ignorant. I can't imagine how much worse the world would have been if the communists had taken control of a Western European country. It would probably had lead to WW3 by the 1960s.
@jorgosgustavus3183
@jorgosgustavus3183 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't haunt Spain wtf. People literally Adore him there. under Francos Spain Spain was one of the best places to live
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no freedom of speech, religion, right to votes. Under him Spain was the poorest country in Europe and the tyrant even outlawed celtic music
@mpc7440
@mpc7440 2 жыл бұрын
@@asturiasceltic3183 Mofo what? Under Franco, Spain had the 2nd fastest growing economy in the world (The Great Miracle) and the best health in all of Europe.
@fabrizio483
@fabrizio483 5 жыл бұрын
Franco was a great man. And so was Pinochet.
@Timodj13
@Timodj13 Жыл бұрын
ARRIBA ESPAÑA
@88torres72
@88torres72 4 жыл бұрын
Franco saved Spain..
@roldannunez9866
@roldannunez9866 4 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@88torres72
@88torres72 4 жыл бұрын
@CynthiaSantovena CynthiaSantovena Hitler was quoted discussing his dealing with Franco.. “I would rather have four of my teeth pulled out than deal with that man again,” Hitler reportedly confided to Benito Mussolini. is that something a friend would say about another friend?
@88torres72
@88torres72 4 жыл бұрын
@CynthiaSantovena CynthiaSantovena research a man named Wihelm Canaris for a better understanding of Spain's role in WW2
@franciscofranco5133
@franciscofranco5133 7 жыл бұрын
Well, Spain could've ended up becoming communist hadn't it become fascist. Communism tends to be worse, and also lasts longer. China, or Taiwan used to be nationalist, but they also became a democracy over time.
@lepetitchat123
@lepetitchat123 7 жыл бұрын
ChiNa will never ever become a democracy. The oligarchs are too rotten for that
@franciscofranco5133
@franciscofranco5133 7 жыл бұрын
sawadee China, also called Taiwan, used to be Nationalist, but it became a democracy over time.
@lepetitchat123
@lepetitchat123 7 жыл бұрын
+Francisco Franco hello, ChiNa has been taken over by commies since 1949. were you born yesterday? while Taiwan should be regarded as the real China, ask the international leaders what they think.
@franciscofranco5133
@franciscofranco5133 7 жыл бұрын
sawadee CaNt TeLl If U iS tRoLL oR NoT
@johndavis8669
@johndavis8669 7 жыл бұрын
If Franco hadn't died another Civil War would of erupted and the Nations of Mexico and Yugoslavia would of intervene with troops and military aid. Franco was admired by those in the United States as a tough leader.
@franktreml3145
@franktreml3145 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite true when that man says ‘no one wants to bring back Francoism’ ....why then are Vox doing well in elections? I wouldn’t be so sure about that unfortunately. I think there is a strong streak here in Spain who want the Franco days unfortunately
@italianboyz12345
@italianboyz12345 2 жыл бұрын
Haunts? He saved Spain.
@chopeda5822
@chopeda5822 2 жыл бұрын
Saved Spain from the Spanish
@Lithowave
@Lithowave 7 ай бұрын
Hail franco
@francissullivan6582
@francissullivan6582 4 жыл бұрын
Spain, a banana republic through and through. Long live St. George!
@christiannavarro3519
@christiannavarro3519 4 жыл бұрын
Francis Sullivan you mean Saint Muhammad of Britainistan.
@counterfan90
@counterfan90 4 жыл бұрын
Where is your empire now, Mohammed?
@justarandomguy537
@justarandomguy537 2 жыл бұрын
Islamic republic of Britain.
@ruler1492
@ruler1492 5 жыл бұрын
This comment section is truly a disgrace, what a shame.
@sladeherb4056
@sladeherb4056 5 жыл бұрын
what i take from this piece is that its ok for the for the victors to write history books unless you didnt fight the axis powers. franco could very well, along with hitler, have saved europe from a communist conquest. not a popular opinion but one has to think how things could have turned out without the bulwark of these countries and their allies and the sacrifices of countless ordinary yet extraordinary citizens.
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 4 жыл бұрын
So one dictatorship would replace another. Cool.
@c.solar.s
@c.solar.s 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Preston is a mercenary of socialist goverment during many years. The Franco's regim is one thing and the victory over comunism, anarchy and killers of catholics and christians...is other thing very different. There are to make remember to all of you, "britts" that your nation helped to rebels in the civil war for brake comunist advance in Westerm Europe. And legitimed at UN when USA did too in the 50's. Two parties, many opinions and too much confusion. The socialist goverment is looking for the war again. They think can win this time.
@heathcliffearnshaw1403
@heathcliffearnshaw1403 5 жыл бұрын
You pro Franco commenters below : DONT ADD TO “THE SHAMEFUL THIRTIES!
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 2 жыл бұрын
Women earned the right to vote in Spain in 1933 as a result of legal changes made during the Second Spanish Republic. Women lost most of their rights after Franco came to power in 1939 at the end of the Spanish Civil War/ The Republic fought for women being equal to men. Spain had their first election since the Republic elections in 1936 AFTER Franco's death in 1977
@enverhoxha545
@enverhoxha545 2 жыл бұрын
better than republican killing the member of church and christian even muslim there..
@asturiasceltic3183
@asturiasceltic3183 2 жыл бұрын
The Priests committed some of the assasinations on hundreds in a bullrings on their SAINTS DAY. They allowed little girls to be raped to death by Moroccan soldiers. The Catholic Church even apologized to the Republic and allowed for Franco's exhumation
@joeljoseph4150
@joeljoseph4150 2 жыл бұрын
@@asturiasceltic3183 allowed? You mean couldn't stop.
@stormdragon7500
@stormdragon7500 2 жыл бұрын
voting is overrated and democracy isn’t moral, it only exists to provide legitimacy to a weak system
@joew9690
@joew9690 5 жыл бұрын
People of Spain be thankful for Gen Franco he saved you from red cancer.... We Poles know the best taste of the Communism. But don't hail - this sign remind me about my country man killed by germans. Long live Spain and Gen Franco !
@tvmlvlvpohv
@tvmlvlvpohv 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty biased video. Take this down.
@mellowbear6817
@mellowbear6817 4 жыл бұрын
Im apalled by the number of people in the comment section that still defend and justify the brutal crimes of the francoist regime. I thought fascism had been defeated at last, but it seems its still alive and well. The deaths of countless in defense of freedom and democracy have, apparently, been in vain.
@casrvsfv3172
@casrvsfv3172 7 жыл бұрын
I feel so ashamed of this, how can we still be stuck with that. Move on at once all of you for God's sake!
@foghornfoggyface
@foghornfoggyface 3 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't think like that if you were tortured and knew your torturer was walking around free just a few streets away from you.
@omega0195
@omega0195 Жыл бұрын
@@foghornfoggyface cope and seethe foo
@EllotusFreeholy
@EllotusFreeholy 7 жыл бұрын
From an american perspective ~ Before donald trump's election as president it would have seemed strange to think of people longing for a dictatorship.
@cjmacq-vg8um
@cjmacq-vg8um 6 жыл бұрын
it still astounds me how these fascists have come flooding out of hiding since they found trump! these goddamned fascists with their fascist stiff-arm salutes, playing soldier in para-military uniforms, spewing their anti-freedom, pro-totalitarian lies MAKES ME SICK! thise who refuse to learn from the lessons of the past FORCE the rest of us to relive, in perpetuity, the horrors of the past! as the middle class sleeps their own oppressors are RISING! the DISEASE of fascism MUST BE ERADICATED!
@ramsey633
@ramsey633 5 жыл бұрын
its funny how most western countries like to see the right as bad but the left as ok yet the communist s in spain were torturing people and murdering,and if they had won they would have invaded portugal and britain and france might have got involved,franco was the best of a bad bunch its because he won is the reason he gets criticised
@luisl69-
@luisl69- 6 жыл бұрын
Francisco franco is my great great great great great grandpas brother
@scheldon202
@scheldon202 6 жыл бұрын
Spain is third world banana republic in the heart of Europe, who this is possible?
@Jim-Tuner
@Jim-Tuner 5 жыл бұрын
Italy isn't much better. Greece is worse. And you can't say much bad about Spain when countries like Bulgaria and Rumania are in the EU now.
@kareemwail4495
@kareemwail4495 7 жыл бұрын
Francisco Franco is the best
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