VIETNAM | America's New Ally?

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In September 2023, US President Joe Biden visited Vietnam. Hosted by the Secretary-General of the Communist Party, Vietnam’s most senior official, the two countries signed a comprehensive strategic partnership. This marks the latest stage in an extraordinary turnaround in relations between two countries that once fought a bitter and brutal war. But how did it develop? And what lies behind this change?
The Vietnam War was hugely traumatic for both countries. As well as the millions left dead in Vietnam, the country suffered appalling environmental damage. Meanwhile, for the United States, the Vietnam War was the first loss in its history. On top of this, thousands of military personnel remained unaccounted for. However, by the start of the 1990s, relations were changing, and in 1995, the two countries normalised their relations. Since then, ties have gone from strength to strength. As well as economic and trade links, they have established a range of cultural and educational links. But what has really come to define the relationship is security. In the face of growing Chinese assertiveness, especially in the South China Sea, the two countries have forged closer ties. However, things aren’t quite as they seem. Differences still persist. And Vietnam’s relationship with Beijing is also complex. But while China has called on the United States to avoid a Cold War mentality and asked Vietnam to remember its positive past ties to China, Has Hanoi now decided to look firmly towards the West?
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Titles
00:49 Reconciliation in International Relations
01:47 Background to Vietnam
02:26 The Origins of Vietnam
03:45 The Indo-China War and the Vietnam War, 1945-75
06:26 US-Vietnam Bilateral Relations after the Vietnam War
07:39 United States and Vietnam Rebuild Relations
08:49 The Development of US-Vietnam Relations
10:31 US-Vietnam Security Cooperation
11:50 China in US-Vietnam Relations
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@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

The transformation of US-Vietnam relations is one of the most interesting stories of reconciliation in modern International Relations. This has been highlighted by a significant new strategic partnership between the two countries. But just how deeply rooted are the links? After all, they maintain profound ideological differences. And is Vietnam really able to afford to antagonise China too much? As ever, I look forward to your thoughts and comments.

@SpicyTake 7 ай бұрын

Listen to Luna Oi's analysis of this if you want the perspective of a Vietnamese person living in Vietnam.

@shane_rm1025 7 ай бұрын

I've herad this before as to why they detente with the west so easily: Vietnam spent 10 years fighting the Americans and 100 years fighting the French, but has spent 1000 years fighting the Chinese.

@theconqueringram5295 7 ай бұрын

Well, Vietnam and the US fought against each other for 20 years. However, Vietnam fought against China for over a thousand years, or so the saying goes.

@noahway13 7 ай бұрын

I wanted more details. Is the gov any better than China? Is there more free speech? Are there political prisoners like other communist nations? The government seems to fly under the radar.. Just how bad is corruption? Would somewhere like the Philippines be better because of elections? Why is there not more American industry in the Philippines?

@olderchin1558 7 ай бұрын

The US has a use for Vietnam today so it courts Vietnam. Tomorrow the US may condemn Vietnam as the US is likely to do. China is Vietnam biggest trading partner and benefits from the economic spill over and the western decoupling from China. Already some US politicians are uncomfortable with the trade imbalance, how long before this becomes a sore point. China is Vietnam's neighbor and always will. Does Vietnam think that by aligning with the US, it would defeat China and China will disappear? And what will it be like living next to a gorilla that hates you. The Vietnamese kings would apologize to the Chinese emperor after winning their battles. A little humility goes a long way in a relationship.

@Mahc32 7 ай бұрын

Love to Vietnamese people from Puerto Rico ❤🇵🇷 🇻🇳 🇺🇸

@HungPham-ki9wu 7 ай бұрын

You american ?

@huynh11 7 ай бұрын

Gracias Amigo 🤩

@Mahc32 7 ай бұрын

@@HungPham-ki9wu yes Puertoricans are American

@namem1253 3 ай бұрын

❤❤

@Tmb1112 7 ай бұрын

It’s awesome how every time our grandparents have to be like “wait wtf?!” The last generation’s grandparents watching us befriend Japanese and Germans. Our generation’s grandparents probably being all pissed watching us befriend Charlie. In 50 years I’m gonna be shaking my head as the US President has a nice visit with our friends in Iran 😂

@Trolligi 7 ай бұрын

Given how unpopular the Islamic regime is domestically I would not be surprised at all if we start seeing that in the next couple of decades

@geth7112 7 ай бұрын

Actually low-key Afghanistan and Iran have had some tension in the past month where they have threatened to use military action on each other lol. Low-key tho watch 40 years from the USA and China 🇨🇳 team up.

@DiviAugusti 7 ай бұрын

The USA has to ally everyone they ever fought. It’s their achievement run for this timeline.

@Trolligi 7 ай бұрын

@@DiviAugustiso basically they have to try and ally with everyone

@DiviAugusti 7 ай бұрын

@@Trolligi I was joking around but it seems like it happens. British, Spanish, Philippines, Mexico, Japan, Germany, Vietnam.

@GreenJeepAdventures 7 ай бұрын

We are not allies, but rather friendly towards each other. Being friends does not come as a counter to China, but rather to enrich Vietnam by making economic and technological ties. One must remember Vietnam has a similar partnership with China, which is around a decade and a half old by now. As Vietnam abides by its "Four No''s" policy, Vietnam will never make a military alliance with anyone, nor will it allow itself to become a proxy to hostilities towards another country.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

Bạn nói rất đúng . Có khi nào người bạn Mỹ hiểu lầm là làm bạn với mình để đánh China ko nhỉ . Chắc Việt Nam mình đã giải thích cho Mỹ về điều bạn nói đó rồi . Để các bạn Mỹ 50 năm sau khỏi thất vọng về Việt Nam . Các bạn lại nói là Mỹ lại thua Việt Nam nữa rồi thì thật là buồn hi

@user-lc5er9zw4y 7 ай бұрын

中越好邻居，维护南亚和平与经济发展共同努力。缅甸战争需要我们南亚各国合作，排除外部干扰挑唆，为地区和平经济发展做贡献。

@millevenon5853 7 ай бұрын

Question is will Vietnam have a choice in the matter?

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

@@millevenon5853Việt Nam chơi bài ngửa với Mỹ với china rồi nhé . Trước còn úp mở chơi với Mỹ . Nhưng china đã đẩy Việt Nam ép Việt Nam phải chơi với Mỹ và mục đích của Mỹ thì bạn đã hiểu . Có mỗi mảnh đất biển đông làm ngõ mà china cứ muốn cướp luôn thì Việt Nam phải tìm cách chơi lại thôi . Nếu china đánh Việt Nam thì Việt Nam sẽ là nước Mỹ thứ 2 ngay cạnh china chỉ trong 1 nốt nhạc . Điều đấy china ko hề mong muốn .

@MinhPham-of4dl 7 ай бұрын

@@millevenon5853 we dont choose and will not let anyone to make us choose, so choices dont matter

@tyronejoshua1613 7 ай бұрын

World politics Is a crazy game. Going from fighting a decade war to being major allies in a span of few decades is crazy.

@user-vo9wd6tx6c 7 ай бұрын

It's the confluence of several factors. Most obviously the rise of China has concerned both of them. Less obviously the veterans of the Vietnam War (from both sides) are old enough to be dying in significant numbers, so that political constraint on friendship is waning.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Yes. It really is a fascinating story.

@siphomogale779 7 ай бұрын

There are no permanent friends or enemies in politics

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Very good point. It is interesting how the passing of generations can profoundly affect international relations. It is a really fascinating topic. Many argue that the problems we are seeing in Europe today are driven by a lack of direct experience of European war.

@IsraelTimilehin 7 ай бұрын

I told my people in Nigeria the same thing The arch rival of Nigerian president Fmr president Jonathan congratulated and even made a visit to the newly elected president There is no permanent enemy in politics

@sladewinberry8283 7 ай бұрын

It just hammers home that our fight with Viet Nam was not inevitable. We flipped out about their politics, not understanding they were Viet Namese first, communist second. One of my biggest sources of regret about my country. We could have been their friends long ago, but chose to prop up a brutal dictator instead because of fear of politics not our own.

@thuankhong 7 ай бұрын

In the 40 years of the 20th century, too much blood of Americans and Vietnamese people had to be shed because of the ignorance of the American, French, and Chinese leaders.

@LK-SG 7 ай бұрын

Nếu mọi quyết định đều sáng suốt thì không bao giờ có những cuộc chiến tranh vô nghĩa và rất nhiều người phải chết. Nhưng đó mới là lịch sử. Dân tộc VN đã trải qua hàng nghìn năm chiến tranh để giữ nước. Có thể Chúa đã bắt họ phải như vậy. Chúng tôi luôn nhớ những gì đã xảy ra trong lịch sử nhưng không mang hận thù đó vào cuộc sống hiện nay và tương lai. Lịch sử đã qua rồi, nên khép lại. Hãy làm bạn với tất cả các nước trên thế giới vì hoà bình, thịnh vượng.

@powergrassp7769 4 ай бұрын

You Chinese don't look like Communists at all,You look like the Chinese imperialists in the era of Chiang Kai-shek of the Kuomintang

@Saweedee2566 7 ай бұрын

เห็นด้วย ผมมาจากประเทศไทย ก็ไม่ชอบนโยบายของรัฐบาลจีนเหมือนกัน โดยเฉพาะเรื่องทะเลจีนใต้ ที่รัฐบาลจีนมาเอาเปรียบประเทศในอาเซียน ผมสนับสนุนเวียดนามและอเมริกา ในการปราบปรามประเทศจีน

@SiVlog1989 7 ай бұрын

What the Vietnamese have shown is that all they're interested in is being allowed to choose their own path. When the French were ousted and the Americans came in, they weren't thinking "Communism is bad so we'll ally with the US" or vice versa, they only wanted to establish themselves as a nation. This is why they fought off so many great powers over the years and while its Communist regime means it's not perfect, it nonetheless seems to enjoy solid diplomatic relations with the rest of the world.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Indeed. But it is interesting to trace the factors behind that, and how this is shaping current developments.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

Đúng chúng tôi người việt nam ko quan tâm cộng sản hay gì . Chúng tôi chỉ quan tâm đến độc lập tự do hạnh phúc . Nếu từ đầu tư bản cho Việt Nam chúng tôi những quyền đấy thì chúng tôi sẽ theo tư bản . Nhưng thật buồn là tư bản đánh chúng tôi thì chúng tôi phải là cộng sản mới đánh lại tư bản mà thôi .

@ivywoodxrecords 7 ай бұрын

Its a quiet genius move by Biden if it works (one of his only smart moves, and, probably not his idea)

@peacedude-gy3zl 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay This video..... very nice think you

@sakurakou2009 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsayveitnam allying with USA cuz of China doesn't mean veitnam wouldn't change side again in future when their interests need too, in end what brought China and veitnam togather in first place was common enemy, same here if USA show incompetence in taking out the Common enemy veitnam would just look for another allie

@drywater22 7 ай бұрын

One thing worth mentioning is that Ho Chi Minh didn't really care what kind of government system should be implemented into Vietnam because he only wants his country to be free from any foreign influence. As a matter of fact, turning Vietnam into a capitalist country was actually his first idea and he requested President Truman to help his country become one but sadly, he got rejected. This leads to him having no other choice except communism.

@ktk44man 7 ай бұрын

half true, its said that when ho chi minh read karl marx for the first time he broke down and cried, because he knew then that communism was the answer to liberation. unfortunately to some, communism is the only actual possibility of liberation, but its just the truth, and is a lot more palatable once you actually understand communism. but no, i'd say although he was foremost about vietnamese liberation, he, as every other freedom fighter across the world (nelson mandela, che guevara and castro) understood that it was communism that would be their best bet at freedom, and all of these people understood that it was capitalist elements that were the cause of much of the systemic oppression around the world.

@sinoroman 7 ай бұрын

Because USA didn't care if a nation in the far east was ruled by a European country. America is cool with European imperialism as long as they do not interfere with US interests.

@BowserTheMighty 7 ай бұрын

@@sinoromanNo. Actually US needed France join Nato. Thats why they chose France over Vietnam

@drywater22 7 ай бұрын

@@BowserTheMighty probably one of the worst decisions that they have made. Chose France-> Communism spread -> France lost control -> U.S intervened -> another war broke out -> millions dead. All of this could have been avoided if Truman agreed to help Vietnam become an independent country by turning them into a capitalist nation.

@karllarsen8797 7 ай бұрын

@drywater22, Stop lying for your die-hard communist Ho Cho Minh. Why don't you tell people how many millions of Vietnamese were killed by Ho Cho Minh? Are you going to pin the blame of the deaths of millions of Vietnamese killed by Ho Cho Minh on President Truman too? And what is stopping your communist party accepting and holding multi-party elections now that the Cold War between Western democracy and Soviet communism has passed with victory for Western democracy?

@notdpanda9525 7 ай бұрын

I think the Vietnamese saying is they fought the Americans for 10 years, the french for 100 and the Chinese for 1000. Thus a rapprochement in relation with America could be somewhat expected.

@Commievn 7 ай бұрын

Not really. The exact quote is like this "War against America for 30 years Colonized by French for 100 years Ruled by China for 1000 years"

@ocmanga5685 7 ай бұрын

@@Commievn History has recorded that, after 10 years (1954 - 1964), America replaced France and jumped into South Vietnam and after 4 years (1961 - 1964) carried out the "Special War" strategy, despite spending a lot of money. money and effort, implementing many tricks and measures, but the US side still could not extinguish the southern revolutionary movement. From 1964 to early 1965, the revolutionary struggle of compatriots and soldiers in the South developed rapidly, achieving increasingly great victories, making the empire's "Special War" strategy America suffered a serious defeat. From 1965 to January 1973, the United States mobilized about 3 million American troops to South Vietnam. At its peak during the 1968-1969 period, there were 638,000 US troops directly participating in the war (accounting for more than 18% of the total number of US troops at that time), of which 535,000 US troops were stationed in South Vietnam. As for infantry, the US has mobilized nearly 70% of the total number of infantry in the army. The US mobilized a huge amount of weapons and technical equipment of the most modern type in the war of aggression against Vietnam. April 30, 1975. Americans officially surrendered and fled Vietnam. So, 21 years, 1954 - 1975.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

@@Commievnko đúng Phải nói thế này : Việt Nam đánh dc Mỹ sau 20 năm . Đánh được pháp sau 200 năm . Và đánh được china sau 1000 năm Và china làm nô lệ cho Nhật cho Anh bao nhiêu năm sao bạn ko nhắc đến .

@Commievn 7 ай бұрын

@@duanngo9331 Thứ nhất, Khi bạn bị cai trị hơn ngàn năm, thì phong tục tập quán, ngôn ngữ lẫn con người tất nhiên sẽ bị ảnh hưởng lớn. Ví dụ nhé. Ai cập bây giờ đại đa số là dân tộc Ả Rập, và theo hồi giáo. Họ cũng nói, viết tiếng Ả rập. Nhưng người ai cập hồi Cổ Đại không nói tiếng ả rập, cũng không phải người ả rập, và tất nhiên là không theo hồi giáo. Văn hóa, dân tộc, chủ quyền, ngôn ngữ luôn luôn thay đổi.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

@@Commievn hi bạn sai rồi . Nói thế này cho bạn dễ hiểu . 10 con chó sống trong 1000 con cừu thì bạn nghĩ con cừu sẽ giống con chó hay con chó giống con cừu ? Mà sống với nhau 1000 năm thì sẽ ra con gì? Có phải con chó sẽ dần dần thành cừu ko? Bên nào ít hơn bên đấy bị đồng hoá nhé .đấy là chỉ ví dụ china là chó thôi nhé

@lovefilmmakingify 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Professor Ker-Lindsay for posting. There was one event you missed to mention that has been important to Humanity-Vietnam eliminated the Pol Pot Khmer Rouge, saving million Cambodians from an ongoing genocide. After Nixon and Kissinger visited China in 1972, the meeting started the stage for the collapse of international Communism. When Vietnam unified in 1975, the government was not wholeheartedly adopting Communism due to many failures learned from China’s numerous five-year plans and policies. Vietnamese are very practical. All they wanted were independence and prosperity for the nation. The government followed the Soviet Union and Communist ideology due to the political undermining and pressure from bigger nations. The opportunity opened up when U.S. President Carter offered normalization and Vietnam could have “Doi Moi” in 1978 instead of many years later. China prevented this happening so to punish Vietnamese policy for persecuting of Hoa minority in Vietnam; and therefore influencing Pol Pot regime to attack Vietnam. Big mistake by Pol Pot Khmer Rouge! Heavenly save for Cambodian! It took Vietnamese military only one week to start counterattack and to complete the liberation of Cambodia from Pol Pot Khmer rouge, saving million Cambodians from an ongoing genocide. Also the success of this invasion should be written down as the best strategic achievement in military book. However, Vietnam paid a huge price for this invasion. Under the ignorant perception of some Asian countries and United Nations, the invasion perceived as an act of aggression by Vietnam. Consequently, Vietnam faced many years of embargo and economic turmoil, losing more than 20 years of progress and resulting technological backward. For this fact in a brief period of modern world history that has shown Vietnam actually cleaned up the dirty deed that left by China and U.S.A in Cambodia. Again the realization is that self-interest supersedes every political relationship or foreign affairs, “There are no permanent enemies, and no permanent friends, only permanent interests.” This short period of Vietnamese history should be a lesson learned in every written text books for the study of international and foreign affairs, and a case study for the current conflict of Israel, Palestine, and Hamas.

@tr1bes 7 ай бұрын

You forgot that during Vietnam campaign against Cambodia, China invade in the north 1979 where the capital is. That mean that they have to diverge those army to the north to defend and repel against China's invasion.

@lovefilmmakingify 7 ай бұрын

@@tr1bes Thanks, I know. My point is about the significant event saving Cambodian from genocide. You're right, the professor missed to mention the invasion from China in 1979.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

Cảm ơn bác nhận định rất đúng về con người Việt Nam mình . Vn mà ko kiên cường như vậy thì trên thế giới ko còn tên nước vn cả nghìn năm trước rồi bác . Người Việt Nam chỉ cần độc lập tự do hạnh phúc thôi nhưng cây muốn lặng mà gió chẳng dừng . Người việt nam muốn cầm hoa mà kẻ thù buộc ta ôm cây súng . Chúc bác mạnh khỏe và thành công . Việt Nam còn những người con dân đất việt hiểu lịch sử như bác quả thật cũng gọi là có phúc cho đất nước và dân tộc .

@lovefilmmakingify 7 ай бұрын

@@duanngo9331 Cảm ơn em đã bày tỏ lòng ái quốc. Giây đoạn này là cơ hội ngàn vàng cho đất nước Việt Năm mình tiến đến xã hội hiện đại và con người văn minh đứng tầm Nhật hoặc Hàn Quốc. Thực hiện được là một hành trình vất vã lệ thuộc trong tinh thần ý thức và ứng biến cũa toàn dân và lãnh đạo.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

@@lovefilmmakingify dạ em tin Việt Nam mình làm dc . Vì thế hệ trẻ Việt Nam được đào tạo kiến thức rất nhiều ko như thời của cha ông đói khổ không dc học hàng đầy đủ . Người Việt Nam mình rất giỏi . Nếu để ý các anh hùng thời xưa đánh thắng Mỹ pháp china toàn những người ko có đi học hành có người còn ko biết chữ. Phi công còn mới học hết lớp 4 còn lái dc máy bay . Xạ thủ chưa học đến lớp 7 đã bắn rơi dc B52 . Em tin thế hệ trẻ sẽ làm được những việc các vị tiền bối mong muốn .

@MichaelOfficial_ 7 ай бұрын

I would be happy to have Vietnam as an ally. Good people and good food. ✌️

@bilic8094 7 ай бұрын

Those Vietnamese restaurants are always full I noticed I'm not a particular fan of it but I guess many people like it.

@jaymudd2817 7 ай бұрын

And good Shoes.

@yashsawalkar8493 7 ай бұрын

You want to contain China because it's not democratic. How come Vietnam which also happens to be non democratic be your Ally?

@nhuynguyenvan5858 7 ай бұрын

Vietnam and the United States are not allies. This relationship leans more towards the economic side rather than political. Of course, I also want this relationship to become deeper, only if the US Government respects Vietnam's "independence" and does not interfere in Vietnam as it did during the Vietnam War. The people of Vietnam love and welcome the American people, but remain cautious of the political ambitions of American leaders. Hopefully, in the future, the US-Vietnam relationship will be good without any political agenda from either side. Welcome to Vietnam, a hospitable country with rich cuisine.

@theconqueringram5295 7 ай бұрын

I hope so! I love Vietnam, the country has a wonderful culture and history! It's awful what my country did to the Vietnamese (but a lot of Americans were against the war too), let's join hands and make a brighter future. The Vietnamese are true warriors.

@chantrau57 7 ай бұрын

Oh ye??Did you see how they fight Chinese navy harassed the Vietnamese fisher???

@tuandaihiep71 7 ай бұрын

@@chantrau57 Cứ phải như hải quân ba sọc dâng Hoàng sa cho tàu thì mới ưng cái bụng à?

@ndtung 7 ай бұрын

Love from Vietnam

@ZXemyoutube 6 ай бұрын

@@chantrau57 What do you want the Vietnamese government to do about that? Are you a traitor?

@jacknguyen6036 6 ай бұрын

i think theyre talking about the time when a Chinese military ship rammed a Vietnamese shipping boat back in 2014 or smth@@ZXemyoutube

@douglassun8456 7 ай бұрын

I'm not sure I would dismiss the 1979 Chinese invasion as "brief." The Chinese gave up and went home, but they brought hundreds of thousands of soldiers to the party. It was a big deal. And it happened *after* the last American helicopter left Saigon, so it's fresher in the Vietnamese memory.. China has always been the big bully next door, going back at least as far as the Yuan Dynasty, when Mongol-dominated China tried to conquer the Viet kingdoms. In the long view, the American war in Vietnam was a historical blip.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. You are right. The actual armed conflict was brief. But it was important. And there were further confrontations in the decade that followed. They even fought again in 1988.

@levelazn 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Vietnamese government is modeled after the Chinese one. if America has an issue with china, the same excuses will be created to suppress Vietnam when it's deemed fit. Vietnamese people understand this perfectly well

@didierduplantier8359 7 ай бұрын

@@levelazn Your analysis is weak due to the fact that the US wholeheartedly embraced China, in spite of the ideological differences because we believed that China will democratize once it’s opened up. Relationships were decent up until the Xi’s regime with its wolf warrior diplomacies and its publicly stated goal of changing the status quo. For them to actually enforce their ridiculous 9 or 10 dashes lines claim of the entire South China Sea is enough to put the US on the defensive. I don’t think Vietnam will do any of that nonsense

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 7 ай бұрын

Didn't the whole China problem date back to the Han Dynasty? Even after the collapse of the Tang, we had tons of wars with the Song dynasty

@HuyPham-km9kn 7 ай бұрын

We have been fighting the Chinese for 3000 years.

@khangaroo8166 7 ай бұрын

Being Vietnamese myself, there is no animosity held towards Americans. We all just strive for happiness and we should move towards a future together as one. Most of us were born after the war, but we and our parents were still incredibly poor due to the effects it had, and there was no shortage of stories from the war. There's no hatred because Vietnam has always admired the US, and China has been a much longer threat (thousands of years) than the US has. No point in holding grudges let's all join hands and work together to eliminate poverty and better ourselves 😄

@didierduplantier8359 7 ай бұрын

Had Truman honored Mr Ho’s requests to support his country’s independence from the French colonialists the unfortunate war between us would have been avoided. Mr Ho was more of a nationalist than a communist, so an independent Vietnam, post ww2, wouldn’t necessarily turned left.

@fs5775 7 ай бұрын

I'm an American living in Vietnam and I agree that this is 100% true. I have been welcomed by Vietnamese 100% despite my nationality. I am incredibly grateful to the openness of Vietnamese people who truly understand the difference between a country's government and a country's people. Ho Chi Minh himself understood this difference too. Had the US government supported HCM's request for support for the VN independence movement, the war might never have happened. Big mistake by US govt back then. God bless the Vietnamese people who are strong, kind, and hard working.

@noahway13 7 ай бұрын

I'm American. Any country that can kick out the US and China, wow. You gotta respect those people. I want them on OUR side.

@maeudaou7347 7 ай бұрын

That's right." Eliminate poverty and better ourselves...." Lets see how vinfast is doing in the future. Lets see how the US wallstreet treats Vietnamese company.

@minhloi4536 7 ай бұрын

The old generation especially those that work for the government don't like the US. The new generation they don't even care or know enough to understand. Too busy making a living 😕😕😕. America is still the same, forcing their ideology on the world. US is a true and most powerful dictator of this world. Jeffrey Sachs has great Visions.

@stephanledford9792 7 ай бұрын

As a lot of the Baby Boomers retire, many are retiring overseas, and there are a lot of videos on KZfaq from some who retired in Vietnam for a number of reasons. Some of them were already familiar with Vietnam and the Vietnamese people from being stationed there during the Vietnam war, some were married to Vietnamese women and so had distant family there, some were there because the Vietnamese people were surprisingly friendly, English is fairly widely spoken as a second language (at least in the south) and the cost of living is much cheaper than living in the US. I saw a number of videos with former US soldiers and former Viet Cong soldiers sitting down together over coffee - a healthy willingness to put the past behind them and move on. Throw in a good work ethic and the fact that companies are looking for Asian countries as a replacement for China in the supply chain, and I think that the future looks good for the country. I wouldn't be surprised if relations between the US and Vietnam didn't continue to improve and strengthen in the future.

@thuankhong 7 ай бұрын

Vietnamese people are not hostile to anyone when they come to Vietnam as guests, regardless of whether they are rich or poor.

@GamerNik3 7 ай бұрын

This is amazing! US and Vietnam had a past, but now it's turning around. I love Vietnam from US.

@sevencolours5014 7 ай бұрын

US is only interested in domination. China is getting big and dangerous. They want allies in South China Sea against China. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And that's you.

@huyquang6308 Ай бұрын

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@shanewall4470 7 ай бұрын

Vietnam will always vacillate towards and away from whichever global power is ascendant in the moment and can afford some assurance of her independent sovereignty from the other powers. This is "Vietnamese Independence 101". Vietnam will ally with no-one, yet cozy up to anyone who can assist her to maintain her sovereign independence!

@lientruong2500 7 ай бұрын

You are right. We will not allowed to be used as a pawn to fight the Chinese for the US gov. We are not dumb like the Ukraine to be used as a proxy. However, if needed, we know how to fight for our freedom

@hieubui9542 6 ай бұрын

Let say, Vietnam will ally with everyone, but against no-one, even The US, or China, or Rus

@thangnguyenvan1072 6 ай бұрын

@@hieubui9542bạn ơi đâu dễ vậy . bạn phải hiểu là việc liên minh với nước nàyđã là đang chống lại nước khác rồi .

@thangnguyenvan1072 6 ай бұрын

Yes 👍

@thuankhong 6 ай бұрын

Vietnam does not "ally" with one country to fight another

@luishernandezblonde 7 ай бұрын

In 1075, the Vietnamese Ly dynasty fought a war against the Song dynasty, and the Song was looking for it due to ongoing wars in the north against the Khitans. In order to avoid being surprised, the Ly dynasty launched a full scale conquest of Liangguang (today Guangdong and Guangxi, and part of Yunnan). Never in the history a Southeast Asian nation launched a full scale invasion of China interior and not even Korea and the deeply divided Central Asian nations did so. It delivered a massive blow to Song China and delayed its invasion of Vietnam for a year, an invasion ended in stalemate with little gain for the Chinese. Not until the 13th century that the Mongols would do such a thing again, although Mongol conquest was far more brutal. In 1979, before the Chinese-Vietnamese War, the Chinese taught its soldiers to remember the threat from the south and how its nation was invaded in many of its propaganda films about "Vietnamese imperialist threats". You may ask whatever you want, but the Vietnamese have big balls to do such a thing. Daring to invade a powerful China from the south to a point the Chinese officers had to warn them even for centuries later, no doubt why Americans would want such an ally. If you have Poland's conquest of Moscow 1610 as something, then Vietnamese conquest of south China in 1075 certainly worth rivalling it.

@michaelk4896 7 ай бұрын

China saying anything at all about imperialism is just peak irony

@davidbowie5023 7 ай бұрын

_If you have Poland's conquest of Moscow 1610 as something, then Vietnamese conquest of south China in 1075 certainly worth rivalling it._ It's even more ironic when the Poles managed to repel the nomadic Ottomans in 1683, saving Europe and Christianity. And the Ottoman Empire was one of the successors to the nomadic Mongol Empire, which, in turn, was defeated by the Vietnamese four centuries earlier, which also ironically saved Japan and Southeast Asia, plus relieving pressure for India.

@albertbradley7820 7 ай бұрын

European states, freed from Ottoman domination thanks to Poland, later divided the weakened Poland among themselves. After the partitions that took place in three stages between 1772 and 1795, there was no longer a country called Poland. Exiled Polish administrators went to the Ottoman capital and founded the village of Polonez.

@EbonySaints 7 ай бұрын

>Ottomans >Nomadic The last time any Turk in Anatolia could claim to be a nomad would have been around 1200. The Ottoman Empire was about as far from nomadic after its establishment as you can get.

@davidbowie5023 7 ай бұрын

@@EbonySaints The Ottoman Empire was no longer nomadic by 1683. But its root is nomadic. Do you think where the Turkic people's origin come from? They came from northern China, Mongolia and Siberia. The Khanate system was actually an invention by the nomads of the north. For centuries these nomads fought the Chinese and even between various Khanates themselves. Don't forget that Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan - both Turkic nations - still retain a lot of nomadic traditions that have been mostly lost in modern Turkey and Azerbaijan - who claimed to be successor to the Oghuz Turkic tribe that founded the Ottoman Empire.

@Farron6 7 ай бұрын

One thing people always forget, the USA fought Vietnam once. Vietnam has been fighting China and its influence for centuries.

@Yo_Kelz 7 ай бұрын

Facts! But with 3.4 million deaths and over 10 million refugees, the US had left the deepest scar.

@aliteralxoixeo21420 7 ай бұрын

@@Yo_Kelzdeepest scars recently!

@endlessmtnman 7 ай бұрын

I'm sure France was only there to hand out bread and wine.

@vietnamemperor123461 7 ай бұрын

@@Yo_Kelz Right! But that is still small compared to how many Vietnamese died fighting against the Chinese. They rule the country for 1,000 years compare to the US which only fought like over 20 years in Vietnam.

@electro_sykes 7 ай бұрын

I think part of the reason why America has decided to improve relations with Vietnam is because Australia already has very healthy & strong relations with Vietnam since the end of the Vietnam War. And Australia has since World War II, also been a major ally for America in the Oceania, Australasian and Indo-Pacific regions. so I think the fact that Australia having strong relations and similar Diplomatic goals to both America & Vietnam also had a crucial play in improving relations between America & Vietnam. I also think the looming threat and dominance of China in the region was the other main factor that also played a role in forming this alliance and Vietnam is also allied with Japan who are also allies with the US. In Australia, we have an emerging Vietnamese community and Vietnam is also a very popular travel destination for Australia. I went to Vietnam in late September earlier this year and from my view, its a beautiful country and on the tour I got to connect with many of the locals and their unique culture. A bit of a culture shock at first, but after a few days, I really started to enjoy and embrace it.

@Phantom26092010 7 ай бұрын

officially on paper, we do not ally with anyone. we are a neutral country that want to maintain good diplomatic relatioship with everyone. however, behind the curtain, it is just like what you said about China dominance in the region. Even tho VN and US were at war but the majority of Vietnamese have very little resentment toward Americans. China on the other hand has always been our biggest enemies since 4000 years ago and even more so with Xi as China "forever" leader.

@fongponto 7 ай бұрын

the last the global society needs is an improvement of anglo saxon culture in the non anglo saxon regions... because in essence it means re-introducing fuedal systematics (nowadays its techno capitalist corporatism) through the backdoor.... china experienced it through the brutal opium wars and the aftermath, vietnam through the sixties and seventies (like central america)... and now it continues with the us sanction wars.... (not to mention the middle east)

@kenshinhimura5965 6 ай бұрын

America did not decide to improve the relationship with Vietnam. They propose Vietnam to, and Vietnam agree

@chientruong5021 6 ай бұрын

Chào bạn - tôi là người việt nam-

@Nguoiphamnhungsausac 6 ай бұрын

Bạn là người thông minh và có sự hiểu biết kiến thức rất tốt. Việt Nam chúng tôi yêu chuộng Hoà Bình. Chắc chắn là người bạn tốt của mọi quốc gia trên thế giới. Chúng tôi cần 1 cuộc chơi bình đẳng. Có chung lợi ích. Và cân bằng sự tôn trọng lẫn nhau.

@ares1111 7 ай бұрын

As a Vietnamese, I don't think we are allies but we have a common enemy, China 🇻🇳❤🇺🇸 ⚔️🇨🇳

@lamborghinireventon3800 7 ай бұрын

Why not, im VN too and i think be an allies with Usa is good for VN.

@pn5564 6 ай бұрын

@@lamborghinireventon3800We put aside the past but do not forget history. As a country that has been invaded a lot, we understand how to do best and we understand America. So let's cooperate economically so that both sides can benefit. And be sincere so that the relationship can be good.Vietnam will not form a military alliance with any country to fight another country.

@R88ZY 6 ай бұрын

i don't think China sees u as an enemy tho. too tiny that not even a threat

@hodanghau596 6 ай бұрын

@@lamborghinireventon3800Be alliance with the US against China will make VN like Ukraine or Cuba right now. Vietnam better balance the relationship between US and China.

@OGtruthserum Ай бұрын

@@R88ZY Vietnam may be tiny but it the last country China wants to face.

@Kai_Squared 7 ай бұрын

I'm Vietnamese in my late 20s. Since I know how to think I've barely noticed any bad blood against the Americans, rather we only have admirations for their properity. However any Vietnamese I speak to believe that the Chinese (governments, especially the current one, but also the ones before that and even the one in Taiwan) are up to no good. We've fought wars against the Thai, the French, the Japanese and the American, but there is perceived to be no threats from them now. But China is a different thing. I personally fear its imperial ambitions. Look at the Qing (and Juchen people), they used to be the rulers of China, but how many can speak their native language now? The rulers get reverse-assimlated. Looking at the Tibetians and the Uyghurs I'm thinking their grandchildrens will call themselves Han Chinese soon. I think despite all the shortcomings of the Viet people, we have a strong will to survive and protect our identity.

@fs5775 7 ай бұрын

God bless the wonderfully resilient Vietnamese people, they are inspirational

@Commievn 7 ай бұрын

Bruh... I am Vietnamese too and we are still deeply influenced by Chinese sphere. Politically we are the same (Marxist-Leninist) Culturally we are even more than Japanese/Korean since we still celebrate Tết Nguyên đán (Chinese new year) and Tết Trung Thu (Mid-Autumn Festival) Even our language, despite being latinized, sino-Vietnamese vocabulary (từ Hán Việt) consists 30% to 40% of our total vocabulary. Economically we are deeply dependent on China too. Even our founding father Hồ Chí Minh, adopted a chinese surname (Hồ) Personally, as a Vietnamese myself too. I want to remain peace, independent and prosperity with both 'Zhong Guo' AND the U.S.A. I don't want Vietnam to be another U.S' Israel or China's north korea.

@thefourthrabbit9516 7 ай бұрын

Before conquering China, Juchen, Mongel and other nomadic peoples were vastly outnumbered by Han Chinese and also culturally less advanced. So it is only natural for these groups to be assimilated into the culture of their subjects (just like the Mughals in India). It would be ridiculous to suggest that the subjects are imperialist because they "impose" their culture on their rulers. And no, Tibetans and Uyghurs will not become Han Chinese because most Han Chinese are not interested in marrying Tibetans or Uyghurs even if they speak the same language (the reverse is true). Cultural integration will only happen very slowly when both groups accept each other. So, the history lesson here? Don't rule over China if you want to keep your culture.

@johnappleby405 7 ай бұрын

Good luck to you and Vietnam! I don’t think the USA would ever want to fight the Vietnamese again the toughest and most determined people it ever fought.

@nhatvu8800 7 ай бұрын

@@Commievn We are divided on these matters. I have to disagree with you. Just because our culture and language were heavily influenced by Chinese doesn't mean it has to be that way forever. "Gần mực thì đen, gần đèn thì sáng." China is the dark ink that we should get away from. At least that's what I think we should do. Our founding fathers were the Hùng kings, not Hồ Chí Minh. Don’t get the wrong idea. Dynasties come and go, ruling parties come and go, but the country will always be there. Vietnam was there before the communists came, Vietnam will still be there after the communists are gone. All those years in school, I realized that the communist party tried to stuff into our brains the idea that Vietnam and the communist party are one. No, they’re not. Loving Vietnam doesn’t mean we have to love the communist party (unless your family benefited from serving the communist party). The US was a threat to the Vietnamese communist party, but not a threat to Vietnam. China, on the other hand, is the biggest threat to the very existence of Vietnam.

@danhhientran3374 7 ай бұрын

Ko phải là đồng minh mà là chiến lược toàn diện 😂 lời chào từ Việt Nam 🇻🇳 đất nước tươi đẹp và mến khách hãy đến với chúng tôi lòng nhân ái và thánh thiện 1 dân tộc cần cù chịu khó ham học 1 nền giáo dục toàn diện

@MinhNguyen-lt6do 6 ай бұрын

Tôi là người Việt Nam...cảm ơn bạn đã hiểu về đất nước và con người Việt Nam chúng tôi🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳

@JesseBernard 7 ай бұрын

I believe the good relations between the US and Vietnam is a classic case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" type of scenario. While the US do have concerns of Vietnam with it being no better nor worst than China they both share the same similar concerns which is the growing Chinese influence on the South China Sea. Also I personally think that Vietnam being close to the US as their way of escaping being in China's shadow especially with the rivalry between the two country therefore this benefit them. I only hope that the similar model could be employed in the US and Cuba relations because if they can't do it then China would surely will and I know US won't want that.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes, the China factor is certainly a key element of the situation. But it is nevertheless incredible to see the transformation of relations, especially given the continuing deep-rooted ideological differences between the two countries.

@jerryle379 7 ай бұрын

And what made you as a american think your country better then my or china ? Btw claiming Vietnam no better or worse then china is joke right ? 😂 lmao if you have chance do visit Vietnam and see it your self mate.

@JesseBernard 7 ай бұрын

@@jerryle379 Even if Vietnam is better than China (which in some cases they are) that still doesn't hide the fact that Vietnam is still an authoritarian one-party regime with terrible human rights records. It's fine to acknowledge the good and bad about the country though like the fact that KZfaq is accessible in Vietnam in contrast to China.

@didierduplantier8359 7 ай бұрын

@@jerryle379 Nobody is saying our country is better yours or China. Where did you get that impression from? Our relationship with Vietnam is one of convenience only, no more, no less. You actually get more out of it than we do. In fact, if we ever go to war with China over Taiwan, we don’t expect any helps or cooperations from you, so the strategic partnership is more in term of economic sense than anything else. However, if China starts to push you around in the South China Sea, can you honest say that you won’t expect our helps?

@koharaisevo3666 7 ай бұрын

Vietnam is much better than China because of the fact that unlike China, Vietnam can't become a rival of the US.

@internationalplayer107 7 ай бұрын

As a Vietnamese. I can say it won't change anything much between China and Vietnam. We still need many goods and electricity and everything from Chinese. China and Vietnam are in very good relationship, if not to be say, great. And that how our diplomatic way work: We play and work with any countries. As Uncle Ho said in his will, we have to normalize our relationship with US as soon as possible. More friendship mean more chance to growth the economy, thats all. Remember, Vietnam has both Soviet and China support in the 60s, when both countries were in tension and even war in 1969. So yes, just closer friendship, but ally? Maybe not. We can live well without US, but without China? Maybe not. But I'm happy for what US and Vietnam had achived, because we are on the way to become even closer friend, just like what Uncle Ho and Vietnamese people had wished. I am looking forward to see more US goods in our country and more VN goods in US. Im also looking forward for both countries to prevent China aggression at Eastern Sea ( Never call it South China Sea, it is an insult to Vietnamese )

@peterkops6431 7 ай бұрын

I look forward to every new release and have often played previously watched material a number of times. Thanks so much Prof for lessons I would not otherwise have had access to. There are many amongst us who really appreciate your efforts. 👍🏻👍🏻

@siphomogale779 7 ай бұрын

Well articulated article I think Vietnam and USA shows that forgiveness although it's hard but possible and China is scared because USA will use Vietnam for political gains in the region

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. You are right. I find it so interesting to see how things are developing. The relationships are really complex and not nearly as straightforward as they might seem.

@ortwinfrijde6867 7 ай бұрын

They will take US money and weapons, but never attack their powerful neighbour on request. They depend on Chinese investment not US investment !

@DuongLe-ci8gl 7 ай бұрын

@@ortwinfrijde6867 Bạn nghĩ nước Mỹ là cậu bé trong quan hệ quốc tế sao ?? 😹 ( chúng tôi người Việt Nam chưa xin vũ khí từ Mỹ ... như Zelensky !!!! Việt Nam biết cách phải làm gì với China ) bạn rất nhầm về quan hệ USA vs China rồi đó -- nước Mỹ đã đầu tư phụ thuộc quá nhiều vào China : Apple , Nike , Google .. và rất nhiều thứ khác ! Làm sao Mỹ có thể chiến tranh với China được chứ !! 1972 Kissinger đã sai lầm trong quá khứ khi bắt tay với China để kìm chế Việt Nam và Liên Xô , Mỹ đã cho China rất nhiều thứ , Mỹ đã thả con Rồng China ra khỏi nhà tù và bây giờ Việt Nam và Châu Á đang phải lãnh hậu quả !! Bạn biết không khi China đã chặn hết tất cả các con sông chảy vào Miền Bắc và Miền Nam của Việt Nam bằng rất nhiều con đập nước , họ muốn dân Việt Nam phải khô hạn ... ! Vì China biết nếu đánh nhau với Việt Nam thì không có lợi cho họ trong mắt dư luận thế giới , China muốn trở thành số 1 thế giới vượt qua Mỹ !! 5 năm trở lại đây nước Mỹ mới giúp Việt Nam về kinh tế còn trước đây thì không ! 2018 Donald Trump đã giúp Việt Nam đáng kể về thương mại !!!

@tuyen0210 7 ай бұрын

In fact, the relationship between Vietnam and the US is mutually beneficial. Like Americans, Vietnamese people consider national and ethnic interests above all else. We make friends with everyone. As long as they respect us. because we are Vietnamese.

@gold9994 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay An enemy of an enemy is my friend, but a friend of my enemy is also my friend. It's a complicated relationship, Vietnam is trying to be like Singapore (which is good for them), assuming they can balance the power liek Singapore did.

@enduser8410 7 ай бұрын

I will say that as a Filipino, it was interesting to see our government rapidly revitalize relations with the US and reinstate our Mutual Defense Treaty in the past few years. A reason why I think this occurred is because US-Vietnam relations were warming up with the donation of ex-US Coast Guard frigates and the Philippines would lose military procurement priority for disregarding the US during the last Duterte admin.

@dannnsss8034 7 ай бұрын

You forgot the MAIN reason - China's belligerence in the area, is driving former enemies and frienemies closer.

@enduser8410 7 ай бұрын

@@dannnsss8034 Of course. I know that. This was occurring since 2012 (Scarborough Shoal standoff) or arguably 1995 and earlier (Mischief Reef "fisherman's huts". However, PH indecision to revitalize the alliance, specifically under Duterte is why many perceive the Marcos admin to be a rapid revitalization.

@sinoroman 7 ай бұрын

US influence is and always has been present in the Philippines. It was a matter of time before bases were reinstated.

@StanislavM3000 7 ай бұрын

Filipino is a colony of USA. Isn't it?

@tr1bes 7 ай бұрын

@@StanislavM3000no. Protectorate. Just like Guam, Panama, Bermuda, Florida. US aquired them through the Spanish war. Florida became a state afterward. The others depend on the political government that they have if they want to become a state and must have all 50 states legislature approvals. Just google how to become a US states. There are requirements.

@ianluong8039 7 ай бұрын

Given the current heart breaking events in the Middle East, Viet Nam and the US would be an example of building a relationship from former conflicts. In fact, Viet Nam's current relationship with Japan is even more admirable given the millions of Vietnamese who died during WW2 due to Japan's war time policies. Viet Nam may not be perfect but in this aspect its people should be very proud of themselves. May be hatred generation upon generations is not the path for anyone.

@Cookingman388 6 ай бұрын

Đạo phật giải quyết mọi hận thù trên trái đất này! Tôi nghĩ người mĩ nên cải đạo sang đạo phật thực tập lòng từ bi thì hay hơn

@baldricc_tr1857 5 ай бұрын

u right @@Cookingman388

@IAmTheOnlyLucas 7 ай бұрын

Great video Professor. Good to consider what else is going on in other arenas with continuing turmoil in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. One consistent theme of American foreign policy is the desire to turn former strategic enemies into friends. Such was the case with Germany and Japan. Hopefully a similar process with Vietnam will be productive and amicable.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

Mỹ mà có bạn là Triều Tiên nữa thì Mỹ ngủ ko cần đóng cửa . Chỉ tiếc ông trum ko làm thêm 1 nhiệm kỳ nữa😂.

@thuankhong 7 ай бұрын

America (and China) have a "friendly and efficient" Vietnam, which we all are all desired

@haisamnguyen9933 6 ай бұрын

Xin đính chính với bạn là Việt Nam chúng tôi chỉ là hợp tác kinh tế,chiến lược chứ không phải là đồng minh như như Đức và Nhật Bản đâu bạn nhé.chúng tôi trung lập và không liên minh với nước này chống nước kia đâu bạn ạ

@Paul-H-Wolfram6608 6 ай бұрын

America's new ally ? Before Vietnam decide, Vietnam should always remember what Kissinger once say, "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"

@VladTevez 7 ай бұрын

Professor, since the last episode was on the UN and Haiti, is it possible to see an episode concerning the accusations against UN from Israel, about fomenting Hamas in Gaza?

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I’m a little hesitant to return to Israel-Gaza just now. I think there’s a danger of adding more heat than light. But I’m certainly watching developments closely. There are also a couple of other issues brewing that I want to look at.

@VladTevez 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay 🍿👍

@stephenchappell7512 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Yes indeed + it's always hard when a situation is ongoing to get verified analysis which makes interpretation difficult

@thongthai8593 7 ай бұрын

The Vietnamese people are resilient and heroic. They were so good that they defeated France, Japan, China, the US and some of America's alliance partners (Australia, South Korea, Thailand) and in the end they succeeded, overall national interests come first. Finally, congratulations on the Vietnam-US relationship.

@haniahannslew4108 7 ай бұрын

That is the only thing they are proud of.. and nothing else. Too funny.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

@@haniahannslew4108vậy người china lấy trộm công nghệ của Mỹ của phương Tây .làm nô lệ cho Nhật cho Anh .dâng đất cho liên Xô . Giầu lên nhờ Mỹ . Hẳn người china luôn tự hào về điều đó ?

@wiseandstrong3386 7 ай бұрын

They definitely didn't defeat the US in battle.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

@@wiseandstrong3386china đánh bại Mỹ đấy bạn .

@huongquynhchu3349 7 ай бұрын

@@wiseandstrong3386 they did. Cry harder. A win is a win, don’t try to rewrite history. And don’t bring the number of casualty here, at the end they successfully unified their country and kicked imperialism out of their country. They had been invaded for thoudsands of years by different bigger and more powerful countries and empires but they are still here now

@tranquoctoan6227 7 ай бұрын

To be an enemy of America can be dangerous,but to be a friend is fatal....(.Herry Kissinger )

@davidbowie5023 7 ай бұрын

The Vietnamese are basically Chechens without Islam. Their culture may have been more sedentary due to their history, but their root belong to the mountains. They can be very nice but they have strong codes of honour and national identity, plus their desire for freedom is also deeply due to 80% Vietnam is mountainous and difficult to control. That's why China, despite thousand years rule, could not pacify these people. Vietnam is later Sinicised deep but its mountainous background has never disappeared, completely different from the Chinese civilisation (which is more agriculture based).

@HuyPham-km9kn 7 ай бұрын

Nope, we Vietnamese wants to be friends with everyone, calling us an ally is too much

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I didn’t in fact call it an ally. I asked if it could be going in that direction. A small but important difference. Sadly, KZfaq doesn’t like nuance. I have to be a little bit provocative. But it is an interesting discussion to have.

@HuyPham-km9kn 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Oh English isnt my first language, didnt want to confuse or irritate anyone. But to be honest there is some right facts on your video. Good job.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much. No problem. And you were perhaps right to reply like that. Again, the title was designed to stir up a bit of debate. :-)

@jotarokujo9164 7 ай бұрын

Hi Professor. I am Uzbek, but growing up in Norway so I have a bit complex understanding. However as an Uzbek myself, I must address one thing I found. China has a long history of land grab and imperial claims, and in the 20th century, during early Republic of China, Chinese nationalists released a number of National Shame Maps. While these maps alter greatly between years with different interpretations, they generally followed a pattern: China considered all Central Asia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Nepal, Bhutan, Northeast India, Mongolia, Southeast Asia, Outer Manchuria, Taiwan, Korea, Sakhalin and Okinawa to be part of ancient Chinese Empire but was seized by the West in the 19th century. These bizarre maps persisted even after the foundation of the PRC and PRC schools still teach them today. I would love to see how you interpret these bizarre maps since I believe these kind of maps fuelled Chinese imperialist ambitions and, perhaps, caused the decision of Vietnam to reconcile with the US. I'd love to see other smaller Asian nations to follow the similar pattern.

@albertbradley7820 7 ай бұрын

You are right, over the years, a few Chinese administrators said that Mongolia, Amur, Siberia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan were China's stolen lands.

@thefourthrabbit9516 7 ай бұрын

As a Chinese I have never seen any such maps as you described in textbooks. I suspect these were online maps based on combinations of different maps of different dynasties ("China" as a civilization contains many different eras and dynasties, each ruled over highly different areas). In some maps, they also indicate the extent of cultural and military "influence" that the Middle Kingdom had. Remember that modern territorial concept never existed in the region until the 18th century. So, these are not "territorial maps" and therefore China cannot use these maps to indicate any territorial claims. I also find it weird that you included many areas that are not even included as "spheres of influence" in Chinese historical maps. However, some of these areas might during some period of history be under the rule or influence of groups that also live in Chinese land nowadays. This by no means indicate that modern China (ROC or PRC) has any rightful claim over these lands. You can verify this by asking any person grow up in China. Or, if you can read Chinese, you can see if the maps are actually "territorial maps" or "maps of influence".

@taiwanisacountry 7 ай бұрын

@@thefourthrabbit9516 strange those maps were what Sun Yat-sen used to base his claim on the "lost territories" on. The first modern claim over Taiwan. As we all remember Mao Zedong did not recognize Taiwan as being a part of China before the Americans said that Taiwan should be handed back to the ROC. Only after that did Mao Zedong talk about Taiwan as if it was a part of China. Fascinating stuff. Sun Yat-sen did claim all of Mongolia, all of Korea, all of Burma, all of Vietnam, all of Xinjiang, Tibet, Yunan, huge parts of central Asia. All of Laos, some of Nepal, North East India, south east Russia, the south China sea, the senkaku Islands, Taiwan, and much much more. I don't care if you have ever seen those maps. I have, I am a sinologist. I am Danish, and I know more about Korea than I know about Denmark, and Korea is not even my focus of expertise. And of course I read Chinese. And those maps did not state, territory, influence or anything like that. Those are modern inventions pushed over older maps. Do you think that Sun Yat-sen was able to read Chinese? He interpreted them as being territory. Why else claim Mongolia? Tibet? Xinjiang? 他们是中国人吗？他们是汉人吗？

@luishernandezblonde 7 ай бұрын

@@taiwanisacountry What made it even more interesting is, despite Sun Yat-sen's status as the founder of the modern Chinese nation and the Republic of China, the PRC (established in 1949) later continued to uphold this legacy and recognised Sun as the father of modern China. If PRC didn't propagate this, they would have rejected Sun Yat-sen's legacies. However PRC opted to incorporate this and enhanced Sun Yat-sen's position and reputation. When PR China celebrated its foundation in 2019, the portrait of Sun was displayed openly. Sun remains highly beloved in PRC so it's hard to say they don't know it.

@taiwanisacountry 7 ай бұрын

@@luishernandezblonde yeah I remember seeing that. I lived in the PRC during their 70th celebration. The atmosphere was tense for us non-chinese.

@CrocodileWhispers 7 ай бұрын

Its fascinating to me that two of the most recent imperial projects of the US (Phillipines and Vietnam) are now the best of friends.

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 7 ай бұрын

In 40-50 years, we gonna see news articles about the US-Afghanistan alliance

@lvhao5105 7 ай бұрын

Dr. James Ker Lindsay, hi. This presentation is both timely & needed. Thank you

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@sunnytran4710 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your video! It really helps with a research I'm doing right now I'm super grateful!

@hilightnotes 7 ай бұрын

This is an unfortunate mess of information hidden behind credentials and confident delivery. Instead of this, I highly recommend the recent video by Luna Oi on the same topic. Luna is Vietnamese and actually lives in Vietnam, and provides genuine understanding of Vietnamese mindset and intention when it comes to relations with the US. On this topic specifically, Luna shares actual Vietnamese policy on what the U.S. - Vietnamese partnership is and means, rather than just the 'western narration' found in this video.

@TheViettan28 5 ай бұрын

I really doubt your suggestion. Luna Oi is a highly activist and has a biased toward the current Vietnames Gov. A non-bias like this give you much more info about things not involve the current Vietnamese gov.

@hilightnotes 5 ай бұрын

@@TheViettan28 Right because if I want to learn about U.S. government I'm sure you'd suggest learning from an Italian person who doesn't speak english. (sarcasm). It's quite simple. Luna provides direct Vietnam sources, with comprehensive perspective, that is clearly more robust than James' analysis. She is straightforward about her perspectives, and does not hide her underlying ideological grounding, in fact she explains it for the viewer to judge and learn from. These things are clear when watching the video. Everyone is biased, bias is not a useful criticism. But to call James non-biased tells us something about your judgement and ideology.

@Twinkiepower420 7 ай бұрын

Vietnamese-American relations are so odd. Ho Chi Minh quoted the founding fathers in his speeches, he lived here, and due to the diaspora there’s a lot of cultural exchange (though tensions still exist within it) Meanwhile Vietnam was invaded by China very quickly after we left and clearly sided with the Soviets in the Split. Yet we see two red flags and immediately think they’re best friends. The China Vietnam relationship is an old one with a lot more history than the American-Vietnam one so it’s not surprising, but it’s still funny

@fs5775 7 ай бұрын

I don't find it odd at all. Vietnam is about maintaining their independence and freedom from foreign rule. They were inspired by the Declaration of Independence for goddsakes. The motto for the Socialist Republic is of Vietnam is: Independence, Freedom, and Happiness. Sound familiar?

@haniahannslew4108 7 ай бұрын

It's really funny. The viets keep saying that China is their biggest adversary but the viets are still so proud to follow and use Chinese culture, knowledge, economic and political model, and wisdom in very way. Many of them identify themselves as part of Sinosphere circle and refuse to accept to be part of SE Asian culture like Khmer or Thai. And when there is trouble, the Viets always look to China for help and China always the one helping the Viets the most.

@vanthienthomas2237 7 ай бұрын

Kissinger is implicated in all of this. He's the proponent of China as factor of peace in the world and considers China as "Elephant in the room" whereas Vietnam is insignificant. He made a deal with China during his secret diplomacy leading China to invade the Paracels in 1974. After his state visit to Jimmy Carter, Deng Tsiaoping prepared the invasion of Vietnam's northern border in 1979 with US connivance. All that happened during the tenure of Kissinger as Secretary of State, he committed a massive error of judgment. The entity he was dealing with is not China but the CCP which seized and maintained power through the muzzle of the gun and and their ultimate goal is world domination.

@nooonanoonung6237 7 ай бұрын

@@liversuccess1420 After the conference, HCM concluded that the West, while speaking of freedom and self-determination, was nothing but pure hypocrites. He admired their ideals, but concluded that they were lacking after learning Marxist-Lennism, and that there was no salvation to be found with the colonisers, but there might be a chance with the communists.

@barney993 7 ай бұрын

@@haniahannslew4108damn, dat crazy. Got any source ? Also, i didn't know winnie the pooh was so generous, i hope he consider extending his generosity toward the Uyghurs folks 😊❤

@phongsavanuniversity32 6 ай бұрын

, Thank you Prof James Ker-Linsay.... Best of your history information... Please tell me about Lane Xang and Kingdom of Laos ?

@gnolan4281 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. Even though I have often contemplated the dynamic between the one time enemies now in a strategic embrace I failed to grasp that the implosion of the Soviet Union was a factor. In those times relations between the Soviets and Mao were frosty and sometimes kinetic. Out of the instinct for self preservation the Vietnamese followed the time honored strategy of smaller nations by playing one side off against the other. With the Soviets gone Vietnam developed a new way of attenuating the CCP hegemon. It was just as well because Chinese encroachments presently come mostly from the sea and the Soviet navy was limited by lack of warm water ports and not much of a force to be reckoned with whereas the US navy is and has been for a long time a blue water powerhouse that is rapidly developing interoperability with other potent naval regional powers especially Japan which has just decided to massively upgrade its "defense force" navy. Ancient Chinese military strategists emphasized the desirability of appearing weak in times when they were strong. More recently Deng Xiaoping cautioned China to hide its strength. But the CCP moved too soon to spring the trap. They overestimated their genuinly new found strength and underestimated the forces that could be mobilized against them. This over-confidence manifests itself in high-handedness and haughty hectoring across the broad spectrum of commercial and military relations. Perhaps if they had heeded the words of their forebears and waited longer to spring the trap they might just have been able to present the world with what the French call a fait accompli.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War really did rewrite international relations in all sorts of ways. We think of it as the end of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, but it also meant that some countries were left with another problem. Vietnam was a great example.

@haniahannslew4108 7 ай бұрын

You forgot that the US overestimated their influence and strength as the sun is setting on uS empire as it did for its predecessor Britain.

@duanngo9331 7 ай бұрын

Bác nói rất đúng . Cháu đã nhận định điều này cách đây mấy năm. Nói cách khác china đã bị Mỹ lừa phải chui đầu lộ diện trong khi chưa có một đồng minh quân sự nào kinh tế thì ko phải phát triển từ gốc như Mỹ và phương Tây . China đã mất bao nhiêu năm dấu mình chờ thời mà ko dấu mình dc nữa . Ẩn thêm 10-20 năm nữa thì china ko có đối thủ . Nhưng đã bị Mỹ dụ ra gióng như dụ rắn ra khỏi hang để bầy sói làm thịt và Mỹ đã kéo dc tất cả đồng minh và gần như cả thế giới đập ít ra cũng bị rất nhiều nước ghét bỏ và cảnh giác . Vn cũng là nước vạch Trần sự tham lam của china cho thế giới biết để Mỹ lấy điều đó để tuyên truyền sự tham lam đấy .

@starhawkflyingbright6905 7 ай бұрын

So the “threat” is not about communism.. But more of an economic “threat”

@yashsawalkar8493 7 ай бұрын

Indeed. It's never about ideology, it's only about self interests

@olofhansson6803 7 ай бұрын

Fantastic as always! Can’t get enough. For me, a person immensely interested in international topics this is by far the most insightful channel. Well done.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the very kind words of support. I love making the videos. It’s a lot of work, but it’s great to be able to have such interesting discussions.

@afterburner94 7 ай бұрын

Great analysis and overview of the history and current state of US-Vietnamese relationships and the local geopolitical context!

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much.

@TiepilotKV 7 ай бұрын

I'm surprised the diaspora here in the states hasn't attempted more interference in regards to relations with the SR Vietnam. I would expect a population that still flies the old yellow flag to be more....loud about it, like the Cuban diaspora that seem to successful maintain the hostility the US feels towards Cuba.

@geth7112 7 ай бұрын

From my understanding the Vietnamese diaspora may not like the Vietnamese government but they rather have a government run by the Vietnamese then a government run by the Chinese. This is actually why a lot of Vietnamese American supported Trump because he was tough on China

@Pseudowudoh 7 ай бұрын

We overseas Viets have relatives at home that we can communicate and visit with relatively easily in these times so fervor against the communist government has died down (even if there's still resentment by the first generation of immigrants). China is universally agreed to be biggest adversary at the moment by Viets everywhere, whereas the Cuban government still is buddy-buddy with everybody who's an American enemy.

@brucelee5576 7 ай бұрын

Vietnamese ex- pats play a role in its growing economy and their role though small is growing.

@davidmoss2576 7 ай бұрын

@@Pseudowudoh Yes never forget the cruelty of Colonialism where the Chinese exploit the labors of Vietnamese peasants for over a 100 years. During WW2 all the rice grown in Vietnam were sent to China while the Vietnamese starve. Oh wait sorry that was France not China. But never forget that China carpet bomb Vietnamese cities killing millions of Vietnamese in a war of aggression. Never forget the rape and killings of civilians. Allowing their allies to commit war crimes in Vietnam and covering it up in the following decades. Oh wait, sorry that was the US not China. I can understand falling for war propaganda during war time, but its been decades and so many investigation into it by now for you to be talking like a momo.

@haniahannslew4108 7 ай бұрын

@@Pseudowudoh OH really???? "China is universally agreed to be biggest adversary at the moment by Viets everywhere"??? Yeah the Viets in Vietnam and overseas are rushing to get married with the Chinese. Some of the viets are so proud to claim that they know the home town of their Chinese wives and husbands and proud to be part of China and proud to be connected with China. Also the viets are still so proud to follow and use Chinese culture in very way today. LOL.. Vietnam is so happy to have so many Chinese investments in the country. It's too funny.

@hoangkimviet8545 7 ай бұрын

As a Vietnamese person, I could say this is an unbiased and profound analysis video about the modern history of Vietnam and other issues. This video is exceptional, Mr. Ker-Lindsay.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!

@KenoticMuse 7 ай бұрын

A decent overview of China-Vietnam relations, because you cover the reality that it's not a black-white dynamic between them. Such is often the case between states that have a long history of conflict with each other.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. Yes, I think there is often a tendency to think that things are more straightforward than they are.

@KenoticMuse 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsayI just subbed, and hopefully get see more of your thoughts and approach on international relations. I'm interested in hearing people's thought process on these complex issues, and not just their conclusions.

@Toanharry 7 ай бұрын

Tôi là người Việt Nam. Việt Nam và Mỹ chỉ là đối tác chứ không phải đồng minh. Việt Nam không liên minh liên kết với ai, Việt Nam hiên nay là trung lập. Việt Nam muốn làm bạn và đối tác với với tất cả mọi người trên thế giới để cùng phát triển

@derrickthai9472 7 ай бұрын

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@nguyenhieu1687 7 ай бұрын

⁠@@derrickthai9472Bạn mới là người cần chăm sóc y tế hoặc uống thuốc bổ não đó cháu trai ạ!

@minhquan5005 7 ай бұрын

@@derrickthai9472 Bác nói nặng lời rồi

@hdcc-ei3sd 7 ай бұрын

เวียดนามจริงๆแล้วกลัวจีนมากครับและเวียดคือพรรกคอมมิวนิสค์อยากที่เวียดนามจะยอนรับกับโลกเสรีได้

@penguin5989 7 ай бұрын

Because Vietnam maintains a policy of 4 nos: No join military alliances, No associate with one country to fight another country, No allow foreign countries to set up military bases or use Vietnamese territory to fight against other countries, No use force or threaten to use force in international relations. So Vietnam will not side with anyone or become an ally with anyone. Maintaining a neutral position is Vietnam's first and most important decision, because historically, the Vietnamese people have had to shed too much blood for war.

@Hashkovo 7 ай бұрын

Well made video James, I also really enjoyed your appearances on the Redline podcast.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I always enjoy working the Red Line team. It’s a really great podcast, isn’t it?

@phaikia13 7 ай бұрын

Well yeah, when your neighbour who's currently on a power trip claims 90% of the south China Sea, and also has the biggest army in Asia, old enemies will become fast friends.

@juki0h391 7 ай бұрын

China and Vietnam just agreed to military cooperation. So, I don't think Vietnam will become a US ally. Being an ally of the US is not really that great anyways, you lose some of your sovereignty once you become an ally with them, it actually does more harm than good. Being an enemy of the US dangerous, but being friends is fatal.

@13ased_American 6 ай бұрын

Of course not Vietnam is a communist dictatorship they need to democratize

@thaihoangmai 7 ай бұрын

I am Vietnamese, our country is Neutral. Vietnam pursues a foreign policy of peace, independence, self-reliance, and extensive international integration. Vietnam does not enter into any military alliances with any country.

@furikuri23 7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, a change in words is enough for the West to label it as changing alliances. They don't care about Vietnam's views or policies, They only care about their own narratives and will push it to its extents to gain geopolitical control just like how this piece is said from a single perspective and show no consideration from the perspective of the opposite side or of Vietnam itself.

@m.a.118 7 ай бұрын

I find this interesting, since we often sell politics in the public eye as an ideological or moral affair, we see that "Realpolitik" (in this case a capitalist and socialist country) joining forces together the the face of a common rival is still alive and kicking... And probably always was, hiding under the sensationalism and hyperbole of modern politics in media.

@Hungdd99 7 ай бұрын

Vietnamese person here. It is true that there are no forever enemies, nor forever friends. Only national interests last forever.

@bicker31 7 ай бұрын

@7:00 "Vietnam therefore linked" this is misleading: all countries seek to extract the maximum practicable from agreements. If they think normalization of ties is profitable to the partner (in this case via advancing geopolitical aims), they will seek maximal compensation. This occurs in all partnerships, esp. if the US is involved, regardless of environmental damage, etc.

@aaaaanh 7 ай бұрын

It just goes to show that the tensions and conflicts between VN and whatever country have been between the heads of the respective governments, while the populace suffer. I’m a native Vietnamese but quite a number of my close friends are from the US and even mainland China.

@gold9994 7 ай бұрын

We are not talking about the normal people. It's about the leader (or thieves, whatever you wanna call it).

@jerryle379 7 ай бұрын

I love how you skip Vietnam Cambodia and how us and china back the genocide khmer rouge regime which leas to the sanction ( up to 1995 the mia/pow wasn't the main reason why us sanction vietnam ) by america and ... hundred of million dollar Aid to the khmer rouge from 79-90

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I touched on this more in the original script. But writing these videos often means having to leave aside certain elements for the sake of clarity and conciseness. What seems obvious to someone who knows a region can rapidly become confusing to someone who doesn't. And, when writing, every tangent one takes requires a path back to the main story. This isn't always easy, especially with time limits. There was a lot to cover here as it was. Cambodia is a whole other topic that needs its own video.

@clementgavi7290 7 ай бұрын

Excellent as usual

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks you very much indeed!

@MuiltiLightRider 7 ай бұрын

The interesting thing about this relationship today is that it was the kind of relationship Ho Chi Minh was okay with having wirh the US back in the early 50s. It was proposed that Ho Chi Minh would be an "Asian Tito", with Vietnam being a communist state that wasn't aligned with the thr USSR or China

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Great point. Ho as an Asian Tito makes a lot of sense. There were indeed some good parallels with Yugoslavia.

@fangzu612 7 ай бұрын

yeah Ho Chi Minh said he want to make a good relationship with Americans after vietnam gain the independence from nazi japan

@Guitarman77 7 ай бұрын

Filipino here. I think this is a good news. I applaud Vietnam people. Everything can change. Even Japan, after WW2, became a good friend ang solid ally.

@JaafarJ90 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for these informations james keep on

@phongtran_scj9000 6 ай бұрын

Hay quá 👏

@masonhancock5350 7 ай бұрын

Full Respect to Vietnam, regardless of any change in strategic stance with the West. - Westerner

@shane_rm1025 7 ай бұрын

Can you please do a video on Myanmar/ Burma and the ongoing conflict against the Military there? It's a complicated situation and given it's a struggle for democracy against autocracy I'm really surprised it isn't given more attention in western media.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you. I certainly plan to take a look at this.

@katytran916 7 ай бұрын

I don’t think so Việt Nam is next to China and trades with China more than US . Vietnam is wiser to be neutral , doesn’t not engage in proxy war as Ukraine .

@SamsungLe-vz2uy 7 ай бұрын

From 1962 to 1971, the U.S. Air Force sprayed nearly 19 million gallons of herbicides in Vietnam, of which at least 11 million gallons was Agent Orange, in a military project called Operation Ranch Hand.

@ocmanga5685 7 ай бұрын

As a Vietnamese, I believe our country's policy is not to become a military ally with any country. It will not be like South Korea, where the US tells it to attack any country and Korea must follow America's orders. And of course, if our country is invaded again, we will stand up again. People are equal, they should not bow their heads, where have injustice, there is resistance.

@saltyboylecture1267 7 ай бұрын

We shouldn't be allies. We have nothing in common. Keep using American media tho, like KZfaq.

@tanignacio8033 7 ай бұрын

I am quite envious of Vietnamese mindset on regards how your government deals with its foreign affairs. As a Filipino, This is an act to be emulated: To show the world that you are not to make enemies but to create an area of cooperation and friendship, An aspect currently missing in the current Philippine government, Viet Nam in its historically have always resisted foreign control. Decades prior, Viet Nam and China even had skirmishes but chooses to cooperate for the sake of the future. Having resolving disputes by not being a proxy, Diplomacy or people to people exchanges seemingly frowned upon here especially from other states we have disputes on (CN, VN, Malaysia and Brunei) I wish we could have been pragmatic in our approach to disputes; developing ties with claimant countries, Resolving disputes through diplomacy and other things. Instead the Philippines is keen on becoming America's lapdog.

@davidk.d.7591 7 ай бұрын

@@tanignacio8033tbf, Vietnam has more leeway than rhe Philippines. The area the Philippines control in the SCS is considered more important to China, hence the increased aggression. The US is the biggest shield against that aggression. Vietnam comparatively, while it also has disputes with China, those are like al the other numerous disputes.in the region. They don't really affect relations and no significant action is taken by any country

@13ased_American 6 ай бұрын

Damaged in the brain

@Mohdn207 7 ай бұрын

very informative video thank you again and alarming for China's projects in east Asia id probably gamble if Vietnam becomes a solid partner of the United States it could become a manufacturing powerhouse

@congkiennguyen3835 7 ай бұрын

Xin cảm ơn

@Player-re9mo 7 ай бұрын

What if China did the same thing America is doing, building military bases in Canada and Mexico while also sailing warships on California's coast? Would we see them as peace keepers?

@Chaser4906 7 ай бұрын

Yes! US is peacekeeping in the middle east currently. its so peaceful there.

@13ased_American 6 ай бұрын

Yeah if we were bullying Canada and Mexico and won't leave them alone. You have no excuse

@Azmuth01 6 ай бұрын

Whatabout this? Whatabout that??

@san-luisdo5659 7 ай бұрын

I am suprise that Vietnam got potential, but are people aware about Vietnam's ''four nos policy''? those are: 1. no military alliances 2. no siding with one country against another 3. no foreign military bases or no using Vietnamese territory to oppose other countries 4. no using force or threatening other countries So it is pretty low chance that vietnam will ally someone, mostly chance is to be closer economic partnership.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. But as I've been exploring in other videos, many countries are quietly re-evaluating their neutrality and non-alignment. For example, Ireland is militarily neutral, but politically it is very much a part of the West. In Vietnam's case, these are all nice statements of intent. But theyt aren't quite as profound as they might seem. Most countries will insist they follow point four, after all it's effectively the foundation for modern IR and is in the UN Charter. Many states in alliances don't have bases, so point three isn't that significant. And point two in many ways replicates point one. But how serious and sustainable they are must be open to question. As I noted, Vietnam already has security ties to the United States.

@lukeldh8064 7 ай бұрын

I believe the priority is the survival of our people, our language and our identity. We Viets found ourselves in a rough neighborhood, with a 1.4 billion strong tribe to the north, unlike America that enjoys the protection of the two oceans. It is all business and we'd welcome all the friends and partners that we can get along the way. But so far we have managed to survive for the last 2000 yearsso I think we'll be fine going forward.

@davidk.d.7591 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsayIreland isn't in China's backyard. ASEAN has been very careful in foreign policy matters. There's a reason Philippino complaints were essentially ignored. While they'll make security partnerships with the US, it would not make them allies. The relationship between Vietnam and China has been good for the past two decades. There's also the fact that most nations outside the West don't consider alliances a zero sum game. Security partnerships don't make you allies. After all, China and India have security partnerships

@thuankhong 6 ай бұрын

From experience in history , Vietnam sees that it is better for everyone. Even America and China need peace and friendship to develop, right?

@chinhduong4032 7 ай бұрын

Vietnam is a peace-loving country, my country has sacrificed everything to regain peace and freedom for the nation. Cooperation with a free and globalized America is inevitable against the Chinese communist regime and the arrogant hegemony of the Chinese people. Best wishes to America from Hanoi, Vietnam.

@ericnguyenusa1866 Ай бұрын

I am Vietnamese American serving in the U.S military. I want at least a strong strategic partnership between two countries happen for long. It not only benefits us two, but for every aspects of cooperation of the U.S and Vietnam also.

@NovikNikolovic 7 ай бұрын

Watch out, James. Fox News might just use your thumbnail as proof that Joe Biden is the next Ho Chi Minh 😂😂😂

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Haha! Indeed. But they’ve already milked the visit for all they can. Biden gave a rather odd press conference in Hanoi. This got more attention than the wider strategic implications of the visit.

@nguyentrungdung8771 6 ай бұрын

Xin thưa chúng tôi không làm đồng minh hay kẻ thù với ai hết. Lợi ích chung và có lợi cho cả hai bên

@nguyenhieu1687 7 ай бұрын

We never want to provoke any country, especially the United States. Vietnamese people just want independence for their nation, but America chose France instead of Vietnam. America chose to support colonialism and Vietnam had no other choice but to follow Communism to receive help and help liberate the nation from colonialism. It was the Americans who forced us to follow Communism. Vietnamese people do not care about capitalism or communism, as long as it helps the Vietnamese people gain freedom and independence for the nation.

@youknow6968 7 ай бұрын

We certainly live in interesting times. I think lot of these alliances, or so called friendships will shift over the next decade or so, but we'll likely see a clearer picture into the 2030's.

@jamesthomashtunkyaw5682 7 ай бұрын

Hi Professor James. I would also love to see how do you understand the relationship between my ancestral Myanmar with China. I live in Australia but of Burmese ancestry, and everyday we look at our tragic situation at home, we only have bad words about the Chinese. Our relations with China are similar as old as Vietnam's relations but due to circumstances, our stories are not well-known.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you. This is a great suggestion. I hope to look at Myanmar soon.

@haniahannslew4108 7 ай бұрын

What is wrong with China-Myanamar relations? Why? Why hate China when the colonizer was britain? Or is this just the burnese problem that they view the west as superior than them and superior than other Asian people?

@directxxxx71 7 ай бұрын

You are being brainwashed by your anti-China narratives of your MSMs in Australia, China has had the non-interference policy since 80s. And that's the reason behind the fall of Burma Communist Party which led to the establishment of Wa Armed Organization and Kogang Armed Organization ( now NDAA). Mind you, without the greenlight and assistance from the Chinese Government, the 3 Northern Alliance and PDFs won't dare to attack the military junta and have won and occupied many military bases and posts and even some towns which is unheard of during the last in my lifetime. They have attacked and occupied more than 80 military bases and posts currently in the fifth day of 1027 operation.

@ninglu4846 7 ай бұрын

@@haniahannslew4108 估计这缅甸人被西方媒体洗脑了，认为是中国支持他们的军政府，因为都是”独裁国家“。

@davidk.d.7591 7 ай бұрын

@@haniahannslew4108China was a conqueror long before Britian was a nation

@KonradAdenauerJr 7 ай бұрын

If Vietnam grants US access to the former naval base at Cam Ranh Bay, it would be very, very interesting.

@thongthai8593 7 ай бұрын

That is impossible because Vietnam's defense policy is not to have military alliances with any country but only economic cooperation.

@lientruong2500 7 ай бұрын

It will never happens

@KonradAdenauerJr 7 ай бұрын

@@thongthai8593 Thank you for the information. My question is: can't the policy be changed?

@phucdo7413 7 ай бұрын

@@KonradAdenauerJr The 3 No’s is at the core of the current regime’s 21st century international policy. The only way that will change is if China directly fights with Vietnam. Vietnam is not The Philippines. Vietnam will try to stand in the middle ground between every world power as impartially as possible.

@thuankhong 6 ай бұрын

America could not achieve that goal through a brutal invasion costing $1,000 billion and lasting for 40 years in the 20th century, nor could it achieve it by any other means.

@garycourtier4668 7 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

@oldgreybeard2507 7 ай бұрын

I thank you once again

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@nathanielament-stone4176 7 ай бұрын

How it is that you didn’t talk about the “four noes” of Vietnamese foreign policy? Vietnam doesn’t ally with one country against another. Vietnam applied to join BRICS; it is not interested in war, while the U.S. is fixated on military alliances and war. Vietnam wants economic development and friendly relations around the world.

@fs5775 7 ай бұрын

excellent question. he definitely wasn't as thorough as he should have been

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I did make it clear that Vietnam's policy towards China is far more complex than it might seem and that it can't simply turn against Beijing. But it is clearly seeking to bolster ties to the United States. And China obviously sees this a real source of concern. As for the wider direction of the country's policy, countries often make statements about their foreign policy, but whether these declarative aspects matter as much as the performative is obviously open to question. In other words, countries will often tell the world that their policy is one thing, but the reality is often rather different. And many countries are quietly re-evaluating their stances towards non-alignment and neutrality - as I have covered in a few other videos.

@SiRasputin 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsayprofessor, I think your western lenses might be distorting your perspective here. The 4 noes are set in stone for Vietnam. They do seek good relations with the US, but it is so british/American to see warming ties as some sort of zero sum security game with China. There are 2 constants that will ensure Vietnam will never ally against China: 1) geography and 2) China's economic rise. These factors alone ensure that Vietnam will never join a military, or any other, alliance against China. Warming relations between US and vietnam should be seen as normal diplomatic conduct. The Vietnamese certainly don't see the world in hard binaries (no matter how you qualify your perspective, you indeed see the world in this binary way, good v evil, authoritarian v democracy).

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

@@SiRasputin I’m a little more experienced than to believe that any foreign policy is set in stone.

@SiRasputin 7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay time will tell. But if the collective west are hoping for open confrontation coming from hanoi, im sure theyll be disappointed.

@NinhTienCong 6 ай бұрын

không chỉ Việt Nam mà toàn nhân loại họ đều muốn tự do bình đẳng bác ái sống an lành tôi mong thế giới sẽ hòa bình..

@ToxicXY 7 ай бұрын

How the turns have tabled

@daraa151 7 ай бұрын

I have worked with both Chinese and Vietnamese. The level of racism between these two nations is phenomenal.

@derrickthai9472 7 ай бұрын

You said there are no racist at the rest of the world including your?

@HungPham-ki9wu 7 ай бұрын

The chinese also hate vietnamese ?

@daraa151 7 ай бұрын

@@HungPham-ki9wu No I haven’t heard Chinese bad mouth Vietnamese. But I was taken a back when this Vietnamese lady opened up to me and said if we are not careful Chinese will take over

@khaiphamba5991 7 ай бұрын

Some points worth noting: 1) Democracy and human rights are not the same under every governmental system, and one cannot impose their ideas on the others. Moreover, these are the tools for the US to interfere with and put pressure on other nations. 2) Vietnam does indeed have a very complicated history with China, but as of now, both countries realize that cooperation and peace to develope are much more important than wars, albeit some differences remain. 3) It is the US who changed their mind on the relationship with Vietnam because: (a) the US now knows they cannot bend Vietnam to its will, and (b) China is developing so rapidly it has become a challenge to the America's world dominance, much more than Vietnam. So the new mission emerges: to stop China by using Vietnam. 4) Vietnam IS NOT going to become the US's ally against China. Vietnam wants no war with both, or with anyone for that matter. Neutrality is the way to go, or end up being like Ukraine.

@Free_Russian 7 ай бұрын

As a Russian, I would say that Ukraine was indeed a neutral state before 2014. It fate was sealed when our de-facto dictator stated that "dissolution of the Soviet Union was a greatest geopolitical disaster". Nevermind how neural you're going to be, when your neighbor is going to end your independence.

@khaiphamba5991 7 ай бұрын

@@Free_Russian Stating your nationality doesn't automatically make your point of view the view of all the people of that nationality. If I am not mistaken, you're a Russian that disagrees with your government. Fine. It's your personal opinion. From my point of view, Ukraine was doing okay until it abandoned its neutrality to reach NATO. As a country that is located next to a giant, it should have known better by NOT triggering its big neighbour. Russia has its own security concerns, and it must be respected. The same applied to all nations, including America. But the NATO expansion crusade for the sake of America's domination had caught Ukraine, and sadly, Ukraine fell for that. What happened on the ground was more complicated than what normal people could ever know, but basically: (1) The break-away regions were the result of the coup. Russians living in Ukraine feared they would be oppressed. Russia lost its grip on Ukraine and had to support these regions. Also, by that time, NATO was preparing to use Crimea as a strategic point to block the Russian Navy, so Russia had to annex it. It was just the matter of who got it first. (2) Minsk Agreement was made after that as an attempt to stop the bloodshed, but it turned out to be a ploy to delay everything to prepare for Ukraine to go to war with Russia, as Angela Merkel later admitted. So, again, Russia was just trying to be quick. It was not for no reason that Ukraine was invaded. You need to offer your statement in a CONTEXT. You're seemingly "accusing" someone of sympathizing with the collapse of the USSR of having the intention to invade another country, which is baseless and ridiculous. Maintaining neutrality is the best diplomacy, regardless of whether or not someone tries to invade you. Your sovereignty is of your own responsibility, you can't rely on anyone because it makes you dependent. "We have no lasting friends, no lasting enemies, only lasting interests." Churchill once said.

@Free_Russian 7 ай бұрын

@@khaiphamba5991 I hate to break it, but any "point of view" has nothing to do with objective reality by definition. By "reality" I understand what and other Russians (both from Russia and Ukraine) witnessing for the last 10 years first-hand. 1. There were zero plans for Ukraine to joint NATO in 2014, and zero chances until 2022. The only reason of full-scale invasion of 2022 was the goal to restore USSR borders. If you watched propagandist TV in Russian, this is the main narrative since 2020. 2. Russians in Ukrainian regions were not oppressed, neither before nor after 2014, not even now. I don't speak Ukrainian, however I didn't feel any degree of "oppression" in Ukraine. Working language of Armed Forces of Ukraine is Russian, this is also an objective reality. Are they oppressing themselves or something? 3. The only fear of Russians in Eastern regions was (and remains) to fall under occupation of Putin's bastardic totalitarian regime. Rest of the statements come with the same level of credibility, won't be expanding on them.

@mesamies123 7 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation, Professor. Thank you. I can understand why the US wants a new relationship with Vietnam, and I wonder why the US does not seem to want one with Cambodia -- against whom it also committed heinous atrocities.

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much. And that’s a really great question. One to explore!

@karllarsen8797 7 ай бұрын

@mesamies123, You must have confused Uncle Sam with your home-grown Pol Pot?

@davidk.d.7591 7 ай бұрын

Vietnam is neutral. Relatively friendly to China but also open to the US and a little worried about Chinese aggression. Cambodia is firmly pro China. Its also less significant than Vietnam

@mesamies123 7 ай бұрын

@@davidk.d.7591 Cambodia's government may be/ should be called 'pro-China,' but Cambodians themselves are desperate for freedom. The US and EU are powerful enough to help Cambodians if they choose to do so. Furthermore, no place and/or people is/are less significant than another. To think so is a callous failure of thinking and feeling.

@thuankhong 6 ай бұрын

An example of meddling in CPC's internal affairs to support US' henchmen

@anotherbacklog 7 ай бұрын

“The foibles of politics and the march of time can turn friends into enemies just as easily as the wind changes... Is there such a thing as an absolute timeless enemy? There is no such thing and never has been. And the reason is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms.“

@a4ldev933 7 ай бұрын

Awesome analysis! You must have followed VN and it's history extremely well. Thank you for sharing your great analysis! 👍

@alex4863 7 ай бұрын

My view with Vietnam policy is simply “The enemy of my enemy at x time is my friend.” It seems to be benefiting them, almost to the mastering point. Vietnam been roughly stable since it’s Sino-Vietnamese conflict.

@TheLocalLt 7 ай бұрын

Thanks as always for the video professor! There are so many angles to the development of this relationship over the years and you pretty much touched on all of them, providing a solid basis for discussion. One other interesting topic is the development of Vietnam’s own sphere of influence in Indochina since winning the Vietnam War, with communist puppet regimes installed in Laos and later Cambodia (deposing the Beijing-backed Khmer Rouge). The communist regime is still in power in Laos, and while Cambodia officially restored its monarchy and the famous/infamous Sihanouk to the throne, the now-former communists kept their grip on power to the present day. Anyway that’s another topic for another day, thanks for looking at this recent deal which was a major opportunity for both countries at a time of anxiety in the region. Thanks again for taking a look at this!

@davidk.d.7591 7 ай бұрын

Id say the Vietnamese sphere is unfortunately at best a subset of the Sinosphere. Chinese influence.still supercedes. Just like Chinese influence.in the Indosphere still underscores Indian influence. Though that is changing

@TheLocalLt 7 ай бұрын

@@davidk.d.7591 the development of Vietnam’s sphere is interesting for that reason, as originally it was an extension of the Soviet sphere during a time when Beijing and Moscow were bitter rivals. With the end of the Cold War and the growing closeness of Beijing and Washington, Hanoi became reacquainted with Beijing and the CCP regained a lot of influence in Vietnam, which America is now attempting to break, at least to the extent it is breaking with Beijing itself.

@live_free_or_perish 7 ай бұрын

That was excellent 👏

@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@techbereal 6 ай бұрын

For those of you who don't know. According to the Vietnamese constitution, Vietnam will not be an ally with any country against any other country.

@brianfoley4328 7 ай бұрын

It's an interesting relationship. Having fought in Vietnam myself, I have a personal bias. Something to understand about Vietnam, it's an Asian culture and that comes with certain stereotypes...long memory is just one. Vietnam will have to go through multiple generations before it gets over the American/Vietnam War. Until then, the best the Americans can expect out of Vietnam is an arms length alliance to combat Chinese aggression.

@soundmind9772 7 ай бұрын

And what would be the worst to expect?

@LHSMeleeClub 7 ай бұрын

I have heard from Americans who have visited Vietnam in recent times, I have heard that the Vietnamese actually like Americans lol

@brianfoley4328 7 ай бұрын

@@LHSMeleeClub The Vietnamese people are a delightful culture. I greatly admire them and think their culture is fascinating. Anyone might say the same about almost any culture...but when it comes to being the kind of ally you can trust...the Americans bailed on South Vietnam, do you really think the current Vietnamese government trusts the Americans...would you ?

@fs5775 7 ай бұрын

I'm living in Vietnam now. Ignore this old American war vet who's never been back. Vietnamese are incredibly open and welcoming to an American like me despite my nationality. There is no bitterness toward me at all. @@LHSMeleeClub

@lientruong2500 7 ай бұрын

Being a Vietnamese and had a father who fought against the US army, I can have a daily opinion that we do not trust China but we do not trust the US either. Why? Ask yourselves how you treat your so-called allies? 🤣 A multipolar world is inevitable so my country will try to balance its relationships between superpowers but if the US’s intention to use us as a pawn to fight China. No, thanks no.