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Viewer Review : Eversolo DMP-A6 Vs RME ADI-2/4 PRO SE (on sound quality)

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13th Note HiFi Reviews

13th Note HiFi Reviews

Күн бұрын

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@rm-mastering
@rm-mastering 6 ай бұрын
Hi Simon, thank you so much, you've worked your magic on this one, much appreciated.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Robert for doing it - it's super useful for others too. I hope more people take me up on doing user reviews to share more credible thoughts around KZfaq.
@peterruler48
@peterruler48 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the most honest, straightforward and practical reviews I've heard on KZfaq. A high point for the channel! Congrats to both Robert and Simon.
@marcgoldstein2957
@marcgoldstein2957 6 ай бұрын
Simon said it best: The RME is a swiss army knife and it is because of his OG review that I bought not one, but TWO. Ipad or Iphone via USB is your ready to go streamer.
@mtkreger
@mtkreger 6 ай бұрын
Now this is a useful review...nice to hear opinions from someone whom, I'm assuming, didn't receive the Eversolo for free...in exchange for a review.
@rm-mastering
@rm-mastering 6 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for your thoughts, I did indeed purchase both devices, the Eversolo for just everyday music listening at home and the RME for work. What swayed me to buy both these products in particular was that they use the same DAC chips and so I had a reliable way to have a consistent monitoring experience for both work and home.
@mtkreger
@mtkreger 6 ай бұрын
@@rm-mastering Very good perspective! Thank you.
@asimghosh5531
@asimghosh5531 21 күн бұрын
😮​@@rm-mastering
@user-jj7uy1ns5f
@user-jj7uy1ns5f 21 күн бұрын
Great talk through,well done
@ronlysons6750
@ronlysons6750 6 ай бұрын
Probably the best review I've seen on HiFi on You Tube.
@rm-mastering
@rm-mastering 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@gregh4292
@gregh4292 6 ай бұрын
Hats off to you Simon, this is a brilliant concept. I’m only qualified to talk about Shakespeare really, and even then I’m only a second-rate Terry Eagleton at best, but letting others take the floor on your channel is a wonderful thing to do. Hi-Fi review socialism in action, ahem. Peace to you and your great work. Regards, Geoff
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
Thanks very much Greg. Do give it a go if you like and you’ve got something to talk about on hifi….it’s not about technical experience imo but actual lived real in person experience. And when these reviewers deliberate technicals but then never mention a better product between two, their technical review goes out the window anyway and it’s all redundant so I’m never worried about that. Simply describing gear what you are using and a comparison between two products on features and sonics (and where you think it exists a mention of best) is all that’s required.
@chrissmith7069
@chrissmith7069 6 ай бұрын
Hi Simon, this is great and could be a very useful format to assist others regarding hifi gear! Bravo🎉🎉😊
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
If more great people did self reviews like Robert or loaned me stuff where I could speak more freely then I’d carry on a) editing their videos and b) making my own videos as a hobby less my production values, to see where this goes. In both cases to perpetuate honest credible reviews. This would probably be the best way to grow this channel to 100k plus subscribers but it would have to be collaborative.
@jmlaso
@jmlaso 6 ай бұрын
Hi Simon!... Great idea for review format. I have a Adi 2 DAC FS and just pulled the trigger for the Eversolo DMP-8 (not arrived yet). I was thinking about using the Eversolo and the Adi together (streamer+DAC) but it seems from this review it is not a great idea. What do you think?
@johnh539
@johnh539 6 ай бұрын
I have owned the RME ADI 2 DAC for about six weeks now. Partly because I have liked my sound strait out of the box, and partly because I feel I need to take few deep breaths before diving into it's settings ,I have not yet changed anything. I have though cheated slightly by using the EQ on my WiiM pro. You mentioned "Long" and "Short" decays. I would love to hear a comparison review for RME and possibly other DAC's? A Feuchter step for me is to buy a small cheap/good single ended valve amp to play with tube rolling, so I would be verry interested in the ADI 2 ,RME in general as preamp's for (presumably) low gain amps. PS Simon with guests as good as this your on to a winner. Thank you both.
@dipanjanbiswas6580
@dipanjanbiswas6580 4 ай бұрын
Letting viewers post their own impressions/comparisons - is a great idea! I hope more KZfaqrs consider this seriously.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 4 ай бұрын
Cool when are you doing one……
@delvalle9256
@delvalle9256 6 ай бұрын
This a great add on to this channel, except for the audio . I am not sure Simon will be able to control this aspect
@rm-mastering
@rm-mastering 6 ай бұрын
Hi Thank you for your feedback, I hadn't payed to much attention in the sound and relied solely on my phone. Considering I work with music, yep... I have no exscuse.
@robertv.d.woning5352
@robertv.d.woning5352 Ай бұрын
Is this a good streamer voor rock and heavy metal, mostly not the best recordings. Or better the bluesound node with his warmth and forgiven not bright highes?
@wendohgermaine6448
@wendohgermaine6448 Ай бұрын
Did hear correct, did he say that the RME ADI-2/4 Pro SE now uses AKM chips?? Because if my memory serves me right, they switched from AKM to ESS after the incident at the AKM plant.
@panagiotisargyropoulos2217
@panagiotisargyropoulos2217 6 ай бұрын
Great idea and video.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
I hope more people do them. I know there are lots of budding reviewers out there.
@net_news
@net_news 6 ай бұрын
great initiative!
@dannyfannyfoodle
@dannyfannyfoodle 6 ай бұрын
How are we supposed to take the results seriously when the reviewer’s “reference” speakers are 5 feet off the ground and shoved into a bookshelf? Come on!
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
You are surmising that it’s Roberts reference Dan…..Also a view is one of many in use so far as reviews go. Ie He heard a difference which another may or may not hear in another system with the RME and Eversolo - that’s the use of a review - corroboration - you can often find similar differences however you set the speakers up in different systems. I suspect if I repeat with my Eversolo and RME (even though akm dac and the adi-2) I’ll get similar results. Does that then mean we discount Robert’s view? What is the probability of use of similar sound in two different systems with a system perceived to not be set up properly, to then say there is no value in Roberts opinion? I’ve been saying this for years - a review is to be looked at with other reviews or buyer opinions to see if common threads can be drawn. Then come back on here and we can say yes x or y said the same (or not) The speakers may be more than dispersive enough to reveal a discernible result and also because he is muting one amp - he is getting a direct a b comparison. Everything else constant except source. We could say that when people swap out Dacs then there is a pause in reconnection so it makes it more challenging to discern change and also he has kept everything the same with the same amps. Also if you don’t think the system is up to it when you don’t know then that can only be reckoned by reference to more opinions anyway - including maybe viewers on trialling if they are deciding to buy either. Again the system being able to reveal the differences is corroborated (or not) by others and consensus. That’s the worth of reviews and can determine best products when most agree. So you never take results seriously or as absolute until they are corroborated by others anyway.
@rm-mastering
@rm-mastering 6 ай бұрын
Hi, I take your point with regards to speaker placement not always being in an ideal solution, however, domestic/family situations and of course, having pets, generally dictate where speakers can be placed (at least for me). There are of course successful speaker manufactures who design speakers (like mine) to be placed on a shelf, close to wall boundaries and or a desk top and they are indeed worth checking out, very successful companies like Genelec and Adam audio to name but a few.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
@@rm-mastering I think that’s being generous Robert . Why are they called bookshelves. I think you can set speakers up far from ideal and still get good results. The fact you directly a to b the speakers and hear a change means why is placement paramount to exclude heard difference in that context. The op hasn’t explained the point
@marc8vino
@marc8vino 3 ай бұрын
Where did you find the information on what DAC chip REM ADI 2/4 is using? Is it really using the AKM AK4493 not AKM AK 4499EX? Is the 4499 better? Just wondering when they went back to AKM and why not the 4499?
@MrGreenjubas
@MrGreenjubas Ай бұрын
ADI-2 DAC FS - ES9028Q2M, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE - AK4493, ADI-2/4 Pro SE - ES9038Q2M.
@ericjohnson829
@ericjohnson829 6 ай бұрын
The new Cambridge CXN100 may be an interesting comparison to the Eversolo.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
I was thinking that too seeing i put the cxn v2 against eversolo in my other eversolo video.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
You up for doing it Eric?
@carlosr.2027
@carlosr.2027 6 ай бұрын
hifirose rs250a vs eversolo A6 which is better ?
@Maver1ck911
@Maver1ck911 6 ай бұрын
Quick get the Cyan 2 from Holo Audio in for RME comparison ❤
@majtextwriter1794
@majtextwriter1794 6 ай бұрын
Great idea - viewer review. Very well presented and articulated by Robert, but somehow boring, too much like profi review cliche. Not juicy, for me of course. But anyway a great achievement.
@rm-mastering
@rm-mastering 6 ай бұрын
😂
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
The idea is to make viewer reviews about the content and the way Robert scripted it out is exactly what people need - nobody is going to be A1 in a first video too - My first reviews were terrible. Presenting is a skill that takes ages and I still look at it as a work in progress.
@majtextwriter1794
@majtextwriter1794 6 ай бұрын
​@@13thnotehifireviews7 Of course, I know... I did in the past many live lectures and presentations, it is challenging. But again, Robert did a good job, even too much like a professional, like a tv news reporter - that is my remark. Like my remark on Hegel's - or other amps - very quiet and dark background in big soundstage ok or not? In some cases yes in others not. So such strength can become a weakness...:-))
@flashhog01
@flashhog01 6 ай бұрын
Great review, seemed to indicate the RME is on the level of a $500 DAC which is how I would also rank it. Strange there are so many rave reviews for RME which is a mediocre product.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 6 ай бұрын
How only $500 dac? My view is Dacs will be similar at least considering my adi-2 dac fs. Rme’s are definitely not mediocre.
@Marius.1926
@Marius.1926 5 ай бұрын
This is the reason why you do not have to trust a review on KZfaq. A Stremer plus DAC plus screen ecc sound better that a pure dac.
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 5 ай бұрын
a way too simplistic a view. When you account the gear, the diminishing returns and a well designed DAC it's not that hard to get to this. Your post is speculation and even if you have tried both your view will be based around the gear you use in your room. That's the value of a review - not imposing some absolute quality with gear but using it to take a view based on the kit used. Personally I think Robert is bang on the money considering how good the DAC in the Eversolo is.
@Marius.1926
@Marius.1926 5 ай бұрын
@@13thnotehifireviews7 rme is 1200euro eversolo 900 euro we is possibile that a strimer plus DAC plus screens is a better sounding devices?!
@13thnotehifireviews7
@13thnotehifireviews7 5 ай бұрын
Of course that's possible. There is different markets, different prices., differing manufacturing economies of scale, different mark-ups, loss leaders, hifi firms on the make with crazy price and a whole plethora of economic reasons. I'm not saying all apply here between these products but these are reasons why you see this!
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