Clear, concise and very helpful in product details and relevance! Thanks for the vid!

Very nice video and explanation. Going to look into this going forward.

Great review! I bought the v1 some years ago and absolutely love it. Use it all the time if going somewhere new or unfamiliar. Never worry about missing a turn as a) it will reroute you and b) that’s all part of the adventure! The v2 looks even better - and at a great price. Seriously tempted!!

Thank you so much , I’m waiting for my MOTO 11 to arrive You really cleared up many questions and also stuff I didn’t know about. Liked 👍 Subscribed 👍

A great review. What a fab piece if kit

I've had a Moto for a couple of years, it's been super handy. Most of my rides are on roads I know, there are sometimes when I need the help of a device and it has served my well for those. I have ordered a Moto II, it seemed like a good enough step up.

A great video Tony, on what looks like a very good device for the money. I think it looks like it works very well, and could be a great back up to your regular sat nav. Thank you

Great review. I love my Gen 1 version (especially the ridiculously long battery life (20 hours in and still at 66%). I may have to upgrade to this at some point, but I am still loving the original.

Thanks good review, will be upgrading too gen 2 👍

Thanks great Video I will definitely get one for my speed 400

Great video. I complained about the treatment of waypoints, especially when you cannot get a mobile connection to adjust your route in the App. I suggested they differentiate between Waypoints and Stops. Waypoints can be bypassed, stops can’t unless deleted with a simple in app option (not needing a mobile connection). Stephen

Great Review Tony, I've had the V1 for a while and found it good except for complex junctions or for a turn very soon after an initial turn. Just upgraded to the V2 and much prefer it. Screen size and brightness is also much improved.

Thx for the clear facts and usage. In not getting used to my Garmin's. It looks the business but they are not as easy to use as an app.

Great explanatory video looks a good piece of kit I expect the only thing to do is to put £200 down and try it let’s see

Brilliant vid as always top bloke tony

The original Beeline frustrated me as i often missed junctions. Took the plunge and signed up for the audio service connected to my Bluetooth helmet and this is a game changer. No more missed turns - works great. Now waiting for the Moto II. I often plan routes using calimoto on my pc and then upload GPX file to the Beeline - the combination works really well for me - especially with audio

I had already liked the proposal of the gen 1 device, but didnt get it because its not for sale (nationally) here in Brazil, and the importing fees might be pretty expensive. But, I do have a friend over the UK and might be able to get the Gen 2 pretty soon, looking forward to it. Awesome review, very useful!

Thank you for that, I had a 1st. generation Beeline but I had to send it back because I couldn’t read the screen. But this new one is bigger so this time I might. Just an observation.

I have used the moto II for about 1200 miles and can conclude it’s a significant improvement over the original. Whilst the older version was simple and easy to use, the larger screen with the map image makes navigating complex junctions much easier.

Great video, good option for classic or custom bikes so the look is not ruined.

I will likely order this when it's released. Much better than the original one

Super informative video Tony - thanks for that - as a fan of the original device I look forward to upgrading to this version soon! All the best and will I be seeing you at the ABR festival??

thanks for the detailed review which ensured me again, not needing a moto II because of the removed features. sorry, "improved" features. reducing the battery life in total by adding features energy-consuming features (which any smartphone-based navi has,), and replacing the minimalistic approach, is just no positive game changer. the "best" part is still only the usb charger :(

I’ve got a v1 and would echo what you said about complex junctions. It was fine for days out on country roads but navigating through towns was always a bit stressful. That said, compared to the crazy money of something like a Garmin unit, it’s a compromise I can live with. Glad they’ve ditched the charging puck. Very likely I’ll be buying a v2

Very nice video. I've just ordered the Gunmetal version of the Moto II. Currently, I use my iPhone for navigation, but I feel like it takes something away from the experience of riding a motorcycle. I avoided the original version as I could imagine the frustration of trying to follow that pointer. It looks like the Moto II solves this problem with a kind of hybrid between a full-blown sat nav app and the original pointer style system. Also great to see such a long battery life, as it will negate the need for a USB cable flapping around on my bars. Like others, I'm disappointed to see certain features behind a paywall. It's not just spoken voice. It's also loop mode. The material cost to Beeline will be absolutely TINY (maybe a few pence per month per customer). I bet this model could be supported by charging non-device owners a fee to use the app.

Expecting mine sometime next month (July) Got the first one and absolutely loved it but as described in the video, they can be a little confusing at some junctions.

Hi enjoyed the video and I thought it was v informative. I a Have been using the original since it first came out and was won over by kits size and convenience. However the device had some big problems. The waypoint issue was infuriating and I wish they were open about the problem as it took me ages to work out what was happening. I used the original on a 150 mile trip to Holy Island recentland there were at least 2 sections of about 10 miles when it just spun around giving me nonsense instructions. I gave up using way points recently so I new that was not the problem. Had I just lost mobile connection.? or should I have somehow saved the route before starting. I love the device and will definitely buy the new one, however I have to k ow all the foibles so I can manage them as they arise. Thanks Paul L

One of the best things about this new iteration is that the price hasn't increased much in comparison to the previous

The option to skip a waypoint via the device itself for app-planned routes is good, but I would prefer it if they facilitated auto-route to work with imported GPX routes, and highlighted when a waypoint hard stop had arrived on the route.

Great video. Very informative and well done. Thank you. I do have a question. Will it function without my iPhone? What if I lose it, or the battery dies?

Great review and comprehensive. My Gen I stopped charging due the charging base contacts. Any talk of integrating google maps?

Some may find the audio guidance requiring payment a negative but I’d argue that people attracted to the beeline are less likely to have an audio system in their helmet anyway. After all a phone mount is going to be better still if that’s all you care about. What I like is a little help on my route without needing to have my phone out or ruining the look of my bike. Happy with the first gen at the moment especially how long the battery lasts

Nice review. I also gave feedback to the Beeline team and they were very receptive. I even got some swag from them. And the waypoint issue is one I reported with the old version too. However, as you say, if you know about it, you know what to do to get a better user experience. The trick to making waypoints not "fail" (and really piss you off) is to zoom in on the way point as much as possible while planning the route and move it right on top of the route line in the map. Usually if you are zoomed out and set a waypoint, it might be many meters off from the actual route. And, Beeline unfortunately isn't smart enough to know you wanted to just "drive by" it. It keeps on trying to get you to it, even if the waypoint is in a field or on some side street in a town (that's the worst one to have, especially if you have no idea about how to get around the town). I like the cancel routing to last waypoint feature, but I'd also suggest the following. Have two types of waypoints in the planning portion of the app. Destination waypoints and normal waypoints. If a waypoint is a destination, that would mean you intend to stop there and that is when you should get the cancel destination screen while driving. If a waypoints isn't a destination, you can pass it and the routing will take you to the next waypoint automatically. This way, you won't have to cancel all waypoints, only those you wanted to actually stop at and decided at the spur of the moment you wanted to continue on.

On the missing a waypoint and the Beeline seemingly having to go through rach one, i found on the Beeline one that a touch on the button on the side skipped to the next waypoint. Does the Beeline 2 do this also?

Very helpfull video. Thx. 🙏 did you test it off-road. Cause of routing and vibrations. Greetings from austria 🇦🇹

Informative video, def will think about getting one. I had to laugh @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="79">1:19</a> regarding weight. How is this in the slightest but relevant to choosing between the rwo, when drinking a cuppa on route is much more than the difference in weights?

Hi, great Video mate. I have two additional qestions: is the map are easy to use and work just fine? When using it, will it soak your phones charge quickly? Than you for testing

Great review, thanks. I’d like to know if it displays phone notifications though in any way? Thanks 👍

Nice review, thanks. Dumb question maybe but can you use it as a speedo ? (even as a kind of workaround?)

I was keeping my eyes on the Beeline and was waiting for a sale. Now that the 2 is out, Louis has the 1 on sale for 120€. Got myself the nice gun metal version. Used it now for two trips...I can say that I had the common issues with missing turns, but I think I just need to get used to it. The bigger problem was that thing with the waypoint. It happend in both trips and it really annoyed me. In my mind, if I want to hold at one point, I would plan a route A to B. A nice bike ride on the other hand should be easily planned with those waypoints, that you can ride through! I would suggest to have the option in the app to use waypoint through or waitpoint hold. Else I will try to use the function Skip. Must admit I didnt discover and learned all the functions yet. But if they in general plan to update that, then even better.

Thanks a lot for this informative video. I have two questions; is it possible to switch between mile/km and second what happens if your phone dies or does not get any signal during a trip? Thanks in advance for your kind response.

Was quite fond of my moto when I first got it and very supportive, however apart from the complex junction issue mentioned in the video, I really fell out of love with it when they changed a subscription for audio, the device after all is only a screen using your phones GPS. I finally wised up to using an old phone (we all have one) and using google maps, with FREE audio! Then there is carpuride of course. for a lot less than the MOTO if you travel enough to want to hardwire.

subscribed !!! 👍

Thank you for this. Yes, the people at Beeline are great. I wrote them about a function. Let's see if that will be a thing of the future. What it was? Well, if we are a bunch of people going the same way and we all have Beelines. Then all the others are pinged to the first one and eliminating the risk of loosing eachother. They loved the idea. I had the old Beeline and it didn't work with my phone I had at the time. So they gave me a refund. But this new one looks like it tick all the boxes, and I have a new phone!

Looks good but as I cannot get a reply from them about my current order not sure if I would buy one of these. Only just found your channel and seen some very informative videos and now subscribed.

Anyone know what the voltage is at the charging pins of the charging adapter plate (12v or is it dropped to 5v?), and also the positive negative orientation?

Question regarding connection, do you need to have the data running on your phone the whole time? And also if you’re riding (let’s say through wales) and you hit a black spot where you have no phone signal does the route just stop and cut out ? Been looking at them for a while but always end up swaying towards gps system like a regular sat nav , is the beeline that replacement?

I have a v1 and love it. Only gripe i have is that i cannot change from cpmpass mode to navigation on the fly. I have to stop get phone out and set to nav. Is this now the same??

Had mine for 3 weeks, one trip to Scotland and heavy rain and the device is now not working, the screen is blurred, lines all over the screen and an extremely diminished display. Not sure if this is water ingress or a defective part. Still waiting for Beeline to respond as they have no phone contact. Back to Moto 1 at present.😢

Very good video. I am undecided whether I should buy the 1st generation or the 2nd. If you should decide what would you choose? I want it simple but easy to read.

The BEELINE MOTO is a great navigation device especially if you own an old fashioned/retro style bike and keeps the aesthetics of the bike clean whilst still having a navigation device. However, the majority of us will just use their Android/iPhone and use the appropriate app for free. I'd be interested to know how many MOTO 2 owners will actually take up the subscriptions package just for the voice navigation.

Considering this for my Vespa after Tom Tom bricked my Vio. The subs fee for audio is holding me back. Are you able to tell it to avoid motorways in route planner? Thanks

Quick question the old beeline on standby last ages, does the same apply to the new model ? Subscribed by the way 😊

I have the original ball mount. Does the moto2 adapter fit

if you are in "speed" mode, navigating to a certain location, before making a conversion the display switches to map mode and then returns to speed mode?

What happens when your phone is out of data range? On the original, it seemed to switch to compass mode which was a problem.

If your using it for GPX routes for trail riding will it follow the trails or try and navigate round them to the roads? I’ll need it to follow my route.

If you miss a turn (not talking way point), does it U-turn or re-calculate the route?

The missing a way point issue is a bit of a pain. I had this last year when I encountered road works so couldn't actually travel down the road I wanted to yet it kept trying to route me back. I also had this issue with Google maps though using voice instructions...had to stop and get my phone out to rectify it.

What about if you go off course using gpx file?

I have Moto 1. This allows both motorcycle and bicycle navigation. Does the new Moto2 have same features. Regards

Still waiting for mine. They say middle of just for shipping.

What's the battery drain on your phone while using it?

Does the original one offer in miles the direction or is everything in kilometers?

What maps you can use with it , and can you use sena headset with it?

Is there a significant difference between the standard black plastic and metal versions? I didn't realize this was the case until you said something here

I’m very interested in this device but also quite conflicted. I’d love a simple small and effective display to replace my phone which can be intrusive and I do constantly get messages which I can’t get rid of with gloves on so sounds great. But what about functionality with other apps. I assume it’s fine with google maps. Does it work with calimoto or myroute without having to perform techy type faffing. What happens if mid ride I decide to take a slightly different route, does it re-route me or is it the app and in which case does it do this in real time or do I have to stop. I need to do some research to figure out if I need this or it’ll just end up being another piece of tech in the drawer that I should’ve thought about before buying.

Great review - many thanks👍 Question: does the Beeline app use Google or proprietary maps? If latter: (1) can I download the maps in the app pre-ride (so I can then put my phone in airplane mode and save phone battery? (2) Is there a cost to keeping the maps up to date? (3) What foreign country mapping is supported - and again is there a cost implication? Much obliged!👍

@mancavemoto Thank you so much for the video! I kickstarted for 3 of the metal editions because I was so excited and wanted everyone in the family to have one.

Re: having to pay for voice navigation, surely you could plot the same route in Google maps as in the beeline app, Bluetooth your phone, stick it in your pocket and save yourself a few quid?

What phone model do you find it works with. I've had terrible functionality issues with a Samsung, that Beeline have been unable to resolve.

I have the Velo 2 which is the cycling version, its been out a while now and had that same mini map feature - I used it to navigate all the way through Europe from London to Milan - was incredible! I have the Moto2 on order through kickstarter, seems to be much the same but improved hardware and has the audio feature too. Hoping mine will get me through Europe in the same way as the Velo 2 does!

Hi Tony, great review, thanks. One question- can I use Google maps on my phone in my pocket for audio directions in my headset while simultaneously using the Beeline on the bike for visuals Can you use both simultaneously?

Interesting vid, I too like the ability to skip waypoints easily, without having to do multiple clicks… However, the requirement for a mobile begs the question of whether this device is needed…. I bought my Samsung s20 refurb for 149 and use calimoto with a Quadlock…. Why have two devices at twice the price….? (Although, I admit I find skipping a waypoint in calimoto particularly difficult, probably user error).

the only thing miss for me is the ability to have autovelox, even on a pay subsciption, will be a must have.

One issue I have with the app. It doesn't distinguish between waypoints (stops) and vias (shaping points). For Beeline, everything is a waypoint. So, you are navigated to all waypoints, even when they are laid in to just shape the route. It would be better if Beeline allowed for vias and an option to not display info about them while navigating. For example, I don't need distance/time to go information for a via. I want the unit to instead display distance/time to go for the next turn/stop, even when a via is between my current position and that turn/stop. Other nits... You can't label/name waypoints on imported routes. It would be nice if the device actually told you that the next navigation event was an actual stop. Even better, would be if the device displayed the label/name of the stop so you know exactly what you are looking for when you get to it (i.e. a gas station's name).

Didn’t know about the change in mount and just bought am eco tech mount for my tiger! Sigh!

Clever, but is it a better option than putting your phone in a waterproof shockproof case? Where you can see a lot more . Clever but not convinced. But a good review. Ride safe 👍

Any discount code for 10% off?

The waypoint rerouting is a real pain when you have voice enabled… the app continually talks to you at nearly every junction telling you to turn around. The voice commands get so bad that you eventually end up with a load of noise that means you have to either turn off your comms or stop to reroute on the app…

Does this need a constant connection to a mobile phone?

The arrow in the original never appealed to me, there's too many UK road junctions where I just didn't feel it was enough of a direction. The Moto 2 looks a much better device, I've pre ordered one, hopefully they can keep up with demand and I'll get one soon, I think it will be really popular.

I just would have liked them to make some way to lock it in place. I have to take it off everytime I get petrol or leave the bike because it is so easy to steal.

Can I import GPX files to the app?

Does it work with Google Maps?

Well, ackshually, tft screens are lcd screens.

Should work in scooter too right

Can you use it as a speedo without having to put a route in?

Does ist consider traffic jams and closed roads to the route? 🤔 Like goggle maps for example...

I’m just tired of everything requiring a subscription. I’d pay more to buy it outright

Last year i did 4000km with one charge and still had 40% battery. So i guess the bigger battery is for the screen only.

They have got to be joking with the subscription! It was going thumbs up until then.

You called it. Subscriptions are unacceptable. Every GPS out there offers voice prompts for FREE. This is an obscene cash grab.

Why would would you ever pay for audio instructions while you get it free using Google maps?

Super disappointed they are hidding features behind a subscription. That was not made clear during the Kickstarter campaign. Totally out of line for a $200 plus device.

You're forgetting the running time, which has been reduced by 8 hours, which is a big disadvantage

Isn’t this just another GPS now? It’s just small and hard to see. It’s everything that the first version was the solution for.

Why not mount your Apple or Samsung/Pixel watch on the handlebars instead of using this device? I'd think Apple and Google Maps navigation would be better than Beeline's app and you wouldn't have to spend an extra $220 if you already have a watch. Even if you don't have one already a used watch costs the same or less than a Beeline Moto 2.

Hopefully they will add integration with Waze app to get info on traffic, road hazards and speed cameras on route. I like the Waze turn by turn navigation with audio clues about which turn to take or into which street (with spoken street name or road number) I should turn into.

I have the original and don’t find it that useful. Although this definitely looks much more functional, I won’t be buying another