can get some fat deals on optics planet every now and then at least during holiday sales. got a badass Trijicon scope for half off and it showed up relatively quickly. they do have a bad habit of not listing things as being OOS or on backorder though.
@DoctorMeatDoesHousecalls2 ай бұрын
Cheaper than dirt can fuck right off. OpticsPlanet is meh but they've done right by me albeit taking forever. If something was backordered, they just refunded me no questions asked.
@rustyricky66842 ай бұрын
I stopped shopping at Cheaper Than Dirt back when they first started price gouging when Obama was in office!! and before that I was spending $500-$800 per month with them… I also had at least 10 other people stop using them as well
@sirdelatopher2 ай бұрын
Hard to swallow pill, the USCCA has the same “vibe” as Big Daddy. And he’s not joking about the non-paying grifters in this industry.
@herbderbler15852 ай бұрын
Not sure why anyone wants to put their faith in an insurance company. Money would be better spent getting an actual law firm on retainer so you know they're working for YOU, not some corporation whose entire business model relies on doing absolutely anything to screw you out of the service you paid for precisely when you need it most.
@sirdelatopher2 ай бұрын
@@herbderbler1585 some insurance backed programs diversify their “war chest” and are still able to defend you. People just need to research their options carefully to shit the fakes from the ones who have actually defended people aggressively
@shrimuyopa81172 ай бұрын
I never understood the business model for Big Daddy Unlimited. When ever I saw their prices I was just like, "These guys are not cheaper..."
@VSO_Gun_Channel2 ай бұрын
They were selling at dealer when they started. They put it behind a membership portal so they didn’t violate MAP. That pissed off a lot of people. That said once your volume drops below a threshold your dealer pricing isn’t as good. A lot plugs into why BDU prices sucked
@NickBlazer-cf1vs2 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_Channel Thanks Kurt. Great explanation and information. VSO is awesome man, keep it up for us!
@BlackoutPatriot2 ай бұрын
Their holiday sale prices were the same as the everyday price . They just jacked up the slashed price and then if your lucky you would get your stuff in a week or so
@melissasmess27732 ай бұрын
They had good prices but no inventory, cancelled order fast after difficulty with employees.
@TacticalToolbox2 ай бұрын
When they started in 2018 they had some crazy good prices. P80 frames were $90 when everyone else was charging $150. But something changed after 2020 and they went downhill, and couldn't keep the the good priced products in stock.
@fomocore2 ай бұрын
When will Cheaper Than Dirt go bye-bye
@sigma802 ай бұрын
They mostly buy other people's products, and mark them up 50% to 1,000% and sell their junk to suckers. That's another business model then "Don't pay for your products and materials" that this business did. If a supplier sells something, and sees others marking it up to ridiculous price, they might raise there's some is all. They got their check, it's CONSUMERS getting screwed. If you're ripping off the suppliers, pretty soon no suppliers will deal with you, and you go under. Like these guys. CTD doesn't use that business model. I saw one catalo (Not a CTD one.)g at one point selling 30 round boxes of M855 type ammunition for nearly $100 a box. I am sure the supplier got paid for that, and the price wasn't $50 (to say they made 100% profit. i am sure they made more.) per box, or anywhere close. You can stay in business FOREVER doing that. I agree to sell you the "Wadjet 2K" at $1.50 each, and you sell them for $20 each, I don't care, I got my check. I might think hard about raising my price, but that's immaterial. I still got paid.
@hagnar082 ай бұрын
Don't think I've noticed before, but those stairs in the background are effin STEEP!
@DreadedOne509Ай бұрын
My great grandparents stairs going up to a finished attic space is damn near that steep. Almost a ships ladder steep.
@Jasonz1919Ай бұрын
Keeps Biden away
@TmanownsАй бұрын
It's a defensive barrier that works against both home invaders and alcoholism.
@nighthawkron2 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more I personally work for a major worldwide automotive supplier and not paying their bills is SOP. The latest news is they are shutting down the plant and making all the remaining employees sign non disclosure agreements to get the last of their benefits. Hell they told me I was laid off for lack of work and couldn't get any of my vacation time that was earned last year ? So at this point 100 people have lost their jobs, a small town has lost a business and the management doesn't care as long as they get theirs ! There's no honor in how businesses are run anymore.
@matthewabrams99402 ай бұрын
Def time to get a lawyer and call the labor board.
@BlackoutPatriot2 ай бұрын
No honor among theives
@jameskirk32 ай бұрын
Hit the DLLR up now, before they declare bankruptcy and you can't get compensated for your accrued days.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
In 2022-2023 I did armed contract security 🚔 for a DHS agency. The company owner had his own D security license denied! 🚫 Not reviewed or pending, the D security license was ⬇️ . He makes $$$ too.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
@matthewabrams9940 this reminds me of Rust in NM. 🤠 or other film TV companies.
@Dont_Poke_The_Bear2 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I had forgotten all about BDU. I thought they went under years ago.
@michaelsoto92322 ай бұрын
Cheaper than dirt should be next!
@LGB-FJB2 ай бұрын
Couldn't have happened to a nicer company.
@rustyshackleford44382 ай бұрын
Well cheaper than dirt still exists
@LGB-FJB2 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford4438I haven't seen anything about CTD doing "gun buy backs." Sure, they'll price gouge, but they do have decent prices on some items from time to time.
@LGB-FJB2 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford4438I see Google removed my comment for some reason. I was not able to find CTD participating in any "gun buy back," let alone multiple of them. CTD may price gouge, but they also have had good prices and more importantly, items in stock.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
I was hoping for a Mike Glover ref. In my view he's done too. He's not completely smoked but like many bro vet 🎗 types. They want $$$ & 🤩 .
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
@rustyshackleford4438 how? 🤷🏼♂️
@ecrogue44962 ай бұрын
oh so gun manufacturers are more like building contractors then I ever realized. They don't like to pay their bills in a timely manner either.
@thengine7Ай бұрын
The 1 - 10 ratio is wild. Guess lots of shitty people like guns. Go figure.
@Mrgunsngear2 ай бұрын
🇺🇸
@camgeigerАй бұрын
Hey! What's up MrGG!!
@XxTheLostChaosxXАй бұрын
Respect. 🇺🇸
@nickratajczak69072 ай бұрын
The last order I placed at BDU was over 300 bucks. Purchased handgaurd, upper, and few other pieces to complete a build. I never did get those items or my money back. BDU just stopped replying to my emails.
@KinoTechUSA69Ай бұрын
@@nickratajczak6907 dang that bites
@justinbandy2610Ай бұрын
AK parts for me. I did get a refund after hitting them with a charge back.
@aarongorton10411 күн бұрын
Same here , but mine was $500! 😢 How could we possibly do something about it?
@lyalholder8712 ай бұрын
Werent they trying to fuck with FRT by saying bdus version was a machine gun?
@VSO_Gun_Channel2 ай бұрын
Indeed
@OMGrobWTF2 ай бұрын
Yes
@joshshepherd5660Ай бұрын
Now that we have the chevron ruling I really wonder what will come of all this mess with those two companies and their "machine-guns"....
@AJohnSmith2 ай бұрын
TriArc does the same. I had to threaten legal action to get my $1k back they held for over 3 years. The owner immediately sent my money back. Pathetic.
@vettepilot4272 ай бұрын
When a company leads with influencers, that’s a good indication that the products or services can’t sell themselves. Furthermore, as a 2A small business (gunsmith), it’s always been interesting to me the vendors who have huge buy-ins and are more interested in your credit t references than setting up an ACH payment where they get their money up front. They really want you to spend more money that you may not have.
@marypoppins55662 ай бұрын
This is a better explanation of who Leviathan is then any other one I've seen.
@derrickkolba2 ай бұрын
its not just the gun industry its a lot of industries.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
In 2013, did set film work in Pennsylvania, PA. 1 of the location producers wanted me to drive 2hr to get equipment, items they did not pay for or get a purchase order for. I was ticked. The small business was not going to release the order until it was paid for. These LA based scum bags wanted to jerk everyone around. The company mgr even thanked me for wanting to be ethical.
@thengine7Ай бұрын
"BOTH SIDES!" Ok there boomer.
@12monkey57Ай бұрын
And will the creators who shilled for them apologize or be held responsible?
@chrisferguson1911Ай бұрын
Why?
@mikesimms5750Ай бұрын
Idk man some big names shilled for em long after they knew they were shit. Those guys probably should be held to account.
@user-hk5fs8re6zАй бұрын
in the beginning they were fine.
@TheRange7Ай бұрын
@@12monkey57 I stopped watching Gun tube by and large because so many of these clowns are major shills and slimy grifters. VSO is one who I've always trusted 100%. Curt putting his name behind something means a lot to him. I won't name names, but I know for a fact there are more than few very large guntubers who are complete shills and nothing more. Many here would be shocked at the names. The reason I won't mention names is easy. Eventually they'll all be outted and that's going to be great to see. Too many shills and sleazeball grifters in the space. I'd seriously appreciate if they'd just say I'm getting paid good money for pushing this or that. I'd actually respect that. I got chumped into buying into a wildcat cartridge that was allegedly the latest and greatest at that time. Several huge names were behind the shilling and I bought into it. I ended up spending north of $1000 on the cartridges and an upper. It was the biggest fail of all time. The guys who shill'd it never even acknowledged my questions or complaints. Other than Curt and a few select others, for me YT is the last place I check for ideas or reviews on anything firearm related. It's a joke.
@XxTheLostChaosxX14 күн бұрын
@12monkey57 the one's that stayed silent about the collapse of BDU after promoting them have lost all my respect, especially Garand Thumb.
@WexWerxScott2 ай бұрын
After they did that gun buyback I never used them again... Thanks for the update!
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
I ignored a few Covid19 scum who raised ammunition prices to 📈 from 2019 to 2022. They were way off. Even now, 2024 many ranges, cadre are not fair.
@nunyabusiness1755Ай бұрын
The whole “membership” thing is always a red flag for online shopping
@Idonno12 ай бұрын
I bought a EOTech Holographic Weapon Sight from them for $550 about 1and1/2 years ago. I never got my Sight or my money back. It's good to hear they are gone and not ripping people off any more.
@2Amend4LifeАй бұрын
Cheaper than Dirt needs to sink. We don’t forget about companies that price gouging and takes advantage of its customer. FT!!!!
@eagleone54562 ай бұрын
I forgot about them. I remember they were sponsering everyone, im always wary of these mega corps in this industry
@VSO_Gun_Channel2 ай бұрын
The only one I can think of is Brownells. Those people are legit. Otherwise you are well founded.
@ghostpunkkilla2 ай бұрын
Brownells is legit.
@Ultrarmx2 ай бұрын
What about Optic Planet?
@eagleone54562 ай бұрын
@@Ultrarmx honestly I don't have a problem with optics planet. I've used them a few times for sure.
@svbarryduckworth6282 ай бұрын
Wilson Combat?
@av8or49512 ай бұрын
I thought it was a commonly held belief that BDU was actually the ATF?
@JohnDoe-zl6qw2 ай бұрын
It IS _Big Daddy (government),_ after all.
@scc-zx1mn2 ай бұрын
sucking up to a gun buy back program is when i canceled my membershi
@ETHRON12 ай бұрын
I remember back when MAC and others were promoting them...I checked them out. Their prices weren't great and half their inventory was on back order. Never bought anything from them... I'll stick with midway, brownells and a few others..
@brr88882 ай бұрын
They’re sales reps would lie through their teeth or more than one occasion.
@Hotel8k3k2 ай бұрын
I know of several large companies who are terrible about not paying their bills. I think a lot of that can be traced to Sam Walton changing the business model to paying in 90 days instead of the previous paying in 30 days years ago. Like people need another reason to hate Wal-Mart.
@MF-zj3zlАй бұрын
You think WalMart is bad? Try selling to Coca-Cola. Their terms are 180 days. This is not a misprint- 180 days. In essence, you are giving them 6 months free interest.
@mikesimms5750Ай бұрын
Correction: I ain't giving them shit. It's money up front by default or I don't need your business. I've had clients try that 30 or 60 day bs before. I tell em sorry, not interested. At least 1 in 4 call back and agree to pay at least a portion up front and the rest on completion. I don't wait for my money unless I know and trust you.
@dancorey90492 ай бұрын
I work for a big Aerospace company and one day my Haas flashed a message that payment had not been completed need code to continue and just like that we lost 5 machines until my company paid the next payment to our machine tool vendor. 😅 Pay your damn bills lol
@thengine7Ай бұрын
That's big money lost. Funny, because the buyers who stiff their vendors do it as part and parcel of doing business. The terms say 30 days? Push them out to 120 days, they won't do anything because we will stop buying from them if they try and make us honor the terms. I like the automatic shutdown. No need to stress getting money. Wish commodity sales worked like that.
@pedrolabrada55912 ай бұрын
I’m glad you are exposing this! Thank you!
@XxTheLostChaosxXАй бұрын
Nothing but silence from Garand Thumb about BDU. Thank you VSO!
@chadm680514 күн бұрын
Grand thumb promoted bdu?
@XxTheLostChaosxX14 күн бұрын
@chadm6805 it's how I first learned about BDU and what gave me confidence to order from them. It was great until it wasn't.
@jeffhuntley29212 ай бұрын
All good people should call out shyt people. Politicians. Cops. JS
@H.R.66882 ай бұрын
Didn't that company snitch on people about FRTs? Like threw the one guy under the bus and sided with the aft?
@Echo_Charlie2 ай бұрын
Yes
@H.R.66882 ай бұрын
@@Echo_Charlie that's what I thought.
@Nathan-jh1ho2 ай бұрын
If they were subpoenaed they have to turn it over. Assuming they were subpoenaed
@Echo_Charlie2 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-jh1ho They turned state's evidence for the ATF on the FRT guys because they wanted to squash the lawsuit FRT had against them over their WOT (wide open trigger or whatever) that was almost identical to the FRT. They supported the ATF's position that the FRT was an illegal machine gun.
@SkinnyMedic2 ай бұрын
MGO would not sponsor a buy back program! haha
@psaunier102 ай бұрын
Yeager (RIP) and NSR left them years ago and that sent a pretty big message.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
Yeager bashed Cor Bon too after Peter Pi sold it. I'd add the recent scandals with Mike Glover, SF & gun smith, cadre Larry Vickers SFOD1 shows not all the special ops guys are + or honest.
@citrus7372 ай бұрын
Long overdue IMHO
@thereisnoneRighteous-but-GOD2 ай бұрын
Integrity is still valued, though not valued by some. Our word should mean something when given.
@marypoppins55662 ай бұрын
Yo, excited to see this.
@danw10892 ай бұрын
The problem with leviathan group , influencers pushing sub par products for money
@VSO_Gun_Channel2 ай бұрын
That sounds like an influencer problem. I turn down so much work it’s not funny. I will always be poor. 🫠
@danw10892 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_Channel fair enough
@I32-JK2 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_Channel Integrity never loses value
@LGB-FJB2 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_ChannelPoors don't own HK products. I don't remember if you own any or not. I certainly can't afford them.
@TingusPingusDingusRingus2 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_Channel Not when Leviathan directly does business with Triarc or SDI. This issue starts from the top and trickles down.
@KigenTheDegenАй бұрын
Now it all makes sense. I remember years ago when I was purchasing Trijicon RMR’s for around $450! They weren’t paying their bills which is why they didn’t give a shit what price they sold it at. I’m STUNNED. I was under the assumption that they had so many members, the membership monthly cost would make up the difference because I couldn’t imagine every single member was buying something on a monthly basis.
@FlamingRobzilla2 ай бұрын
I had to look up what a "cat tourniquet" was (Combat Application Tourniquet). I was relieved to discover that it had noting to do with my pets. 😂
@kevinwhite19592 ай бұрын
I remember backnin 2018 they jad decent prices and quick shipping but like you said they failed and became slimey. I ordered powder from them backnin april 2023 and never got it shipped.
@rouchenelvann2 ай бұрын
Black scout survival was the reason that I was against Leviathan group, only to later find out that he’s not exactly an upstanding person. Glad you brought this to our attention!
@rdsii64Ай бұрын
What did you find out? He always seemed fishy to me but I never could pin it down.
@rouchenelvannАй бұрын
@@rdsii64 check out Jacob b Peterson. He addressed a LOT about black scout. I stopped following bss immediately after watching Jacob expose him
@rouchenelvannАй бұрын
@@rdsii64 check out Jacob Peterson’s channel. He has a video addressing black scout and exposing his true character.
@AdventureOne2 ай бұрын
Leviathan takes the hit if a brand doesn't pay, which means increased rates for their clients that do pay. As an agent, they take a massive cut. Some good folks over there, but my issue was their contracts - preventing brands from working with creators for years, even if they worked with Leviathan for only one month.
@raifsevrence2 ай бұрын
that non-compete shit should be illegal. full stop. so much bullshit like that in this world lobbied for by the rich to fuck over everyone else.
@bryanduchane23712 ай бұрын
Was always on the shady side!!!
@2A.Freedom2 ай бұрын
I ordered an armorers kit last year and after a month I was like just refund me. It was a huge hassle. The guy said good luck getting a better price, I was like dude it's only 10 bucks less than at my lgs LOL
@RichardCranium3212 ай бұрын
Kurt, you are one of only 3 guntubers that I take seriously and truly respect their opinions... However I think your bias towards leviathan might be showing a little bit in this video. You're praising them for upholding contractual agreements that *THEY* made on your behalf. That'd be like me praising the power company for not shutting off your power because you only paid the initial hookup fee & didn't prepay for your first 3 months. If Leviathan is such a great company to work with then why did Garandthumb leave? I know they provide a service that most creators are happy with, but I also think they could do a *much* better job of selecting their ad partners and I think you probably agree.
@VSO_Gun_Channel2 ай бұрын
I think Leviathan has been a net force for good. Do I turn things down? Yes. 🤷♂️ I think what you are describing is possibly a discretion problem on the part of the creator. Two sides of the same coin
@thepatjack972 ай бұрын
Have you ever fallen down the stairs in you background?
@jlew68902 ай бұрын
Leviathan and its associates are insufferable
@thevnbastid10272 ай бұрын
cowboy denny sure would get pissy. he blocked me on face book
@AstanaxKnight2 ай бұрын
I can say that I have been to Gainesville over a hundred times, as I live an hour away, and I have never been to Big Daddy Unlimited. I always drove a little further south on 441 to Harry Beckwith Guns & Range in Micanopy.
@mr.honest804018 күн бұрын
Is anyone aware of a customer lawsuit against BDU? I'm still owed over $700 in orders they never shipped and I'm sure I'm not alone in that
@reconrc17872 ай бұрын
To BDU, dont let the door hit cha where the good Lord split cha, on your way out.
@steveninaz95762 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir. Glad to hear.
@JohnDoe-zl6qw2 ай бұрын
*Ordered an upper from them. Because it was a special order, payment was required up-front. It went on backorder for 2 YEARS while I wrestled with customer service over fulfillment of the purchase (it was a high-end upper at an unbeatable price at the time; I wasn't going to cancel the order). The day I finally received it I cancelled my Big Daddy membership and never looked back.*
@NBXRacing2 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience but no where near as long. Can't believe you held out that long
@anonymouse70742 ай бұрын
Paying 2 years of membership during the wait plus the headache of dealing with them, must have not been worth it. Could have been happily using that upper for 2 years
@JohnDoe-zl6qw2 ай бұрын
@@NBXRacing Patience is both my virtue and my curse.
@JohnDoe-zl6qw2 ай бұрын
@@anonymouse7074 That was the only silver lining; I got comped my membership fee due to the inconvenience they put me through as a result of their screw-up (after copious amounts of complaining on my end, of course). Even so, I still cancelled membership once I received the upper as just too many red flags had popped up during the wait. Plus, the upper was my 50th birthday present to myself (after the Coof forced me to cancel my birthday celebration in Hawaii). So the upper was my consolation prize :)
@skydivingcomrade16482 ай бұрын
Good moral character is more rare than an honest Democrat
@DavidLLambertmobile2 ай бұрын
I saw the 📈 in new legal aid plans, lawyer groups like NRA Carry Guard but they started to fly apart. Late 2010s Early 2020s. I used CCW Safe since 2015. It's not perfect in my view but the lead atty, Don West Esq lives near me. ⚖️
@kevincrawford74392 ай бұрын
I was unimpressed with their store that was in Gainesville, Fl.
@Mlnk13Ай бұрын
The prices were great at the very beginning but quickly went down hill.
@hops2099x2 ай бұрын
5:27 I’ve seen this in a ton of industries I’ve worked in from video rental companies, to video game business, to music business, to healthcare companies… a large number of companies just don’t pay their bills it seems like.
@5jjt2 ай бұрын
Didn't Johnny Glock move into BDU headquarters about a year ago?
@deusvult66322 ай бұрын
Tony Mcknight, CEO of Big Daddy Unlimited seemed like a very squishy slippery kind of guy. I never bought into their business plan and their pricing was horrible among other things about that company.
@Dirtywhtboy87930Ай бұрын
They outright thieves! They still got my $400!
@deusvult6632Ай бұрын
@@Dirtywhtboy87930 Good luck getting that money back
@chadm680514 күн бұрын
I didn’t know all this was going on over a year ago. When I ordered my firearm, they took my money, and never shipped my item. So, guess I’m out 550$ from this bs site.
@spikymikie2 ай бұрын
Shit birds is a perfect description.
@hollyfoxThe22 күн бұрын
They still have their headquarters building and I believe the issue with the non-payments was due to Rarebreed's successful lawsuit against the patent infringement for the WOT. I had a subscription for a few years and have saved some money, but I am local to them so I miss the local store. These days, I believe that we should not be pissing on FFL graves and should support as much as we can. That being said, I have never had a bad experience with them. But, if as you say, they have breached the customers' confidence, then they should suffer the consequences. But dancing on their grave is counter to our community. Time will tell. We'll see. I think Tony McKnight will rebound. Mark my words. In the meantime, have fun. Quite a few of my friends lost their job in the local store. Bad mouth all you want.
@famedgaming1865Ай бұрын
Armalite did the same kind of run years ago. They didnt pay their vendors and sold off the company and ran off with the money.
@pewpewwithtodd80772 ай бұрын
I canceled my membership years ago.
@neopup1776Ай бұрын
I had a subscription for around 3 months. Occasionally had a really nice deal but otherwise was standard for competitive businesses. So I’m not really surprised they collapsed. I’m surprised it took this long
@garyK.45ACP2 ай бұрын
Companies "stiffing" their contractors is not a "gun industry" issue...it's a universal issue across many many industries.
@pantarkan72 ай бұрын
Once upon a time, not paying your debts was a criminal offense and going bankrupt could become a capital crime. Now, bankruptcy is a tool in one's financial arsenal and being a deatbeat is shrugged off. There's got to be a point, somewhere along that line, where one can get back to being able to enter a financial agreement without a roomful of lawyers.
@ethan5.562 ай бұрын
I was wondering how I got some of the stuff I got from bdu for so cheap 😂 glad I bailed out a few years ago. Great video
@bryanduchane23712 ай бұрын
Have you ever told us how you came up with the name VSO Channel? I haven't heard the reasoning before...
@nkk26052 ай бұрын
That would be really interesting to know
@VSO_Gun_Channel2 ай бұрын
It stands for Very Shitty Operators. But if you have a better one I’m open.
@Kpoole352 ай бұрын
@@nkk2605I remember way back when I first came across this channel it was called “vigilant specter operations”. At least I think that’s what it was.
@nkk26052 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_Channel 😂 Didn’t expect that.
@bigdaddybadger2 ай бұрын
@@VSO_Gun_ChannelI must be in the right place!
@originalthundercat4295Ай бұрын
I’ve never liked any outdoors centered groups or pages or businesses. They all seem so scammy
@poorboyracing83Ай бұрын
"Big daddy didn't feel good to you" 😂
@nicholasdangelo81742 ай бұрын
We held a Big Daddy event at our range. What a joke and tool he was. It wasn’t anything like informative or no new equipment revealed, it was more look how awesome we are. His over all look as a wanna be player was hysterical! I couldn’t believe the nerve of this dude walking around my range like he was the only one there. Let me tell you there are some high like really high up on the economic scale members and you would never no it. They’re some of the best people I meet out there. That guy is a just not for this community.
@TheBrigandBobАй бұрын
It's a problem in EVERY industry. It's MADDENING. I run a company that services orgs across every vertical you can possibly imagine. Every single industry there are businesses that try to stiff us. A lot, actually. It's really bad. I don't know what's gotten into people, but there's a ton of small to mid sized orgs out there just fleecing vendors. Like, fuck our bills, I guess.
@poorsoutdoors359515 күн бұрын
Gosh in May their pro shop in Gainesville Florida did a free Silencer transfer for me when their website wouldn't work. I've done a lot of business through them because they're in Gainesville close to me and with their website having really good prices I've gotten free transfers from them several times. I got 2nd and 4th Silencer from them. Wow smh. I ignored the bs around because of their prices mostly.
@FranimusАй бұрын
Capitalism at its finest 🙄
@dragonschthe2409Ай бұрын
I bought an item from them. An order number was created a month goes by still not shipped. I cancel the order 2 more months no response. I reported them to the BBB I guess I'm just out $400
@shootintheshtpodcast2 ай бұрын
Of course it’s your phone boomer, mines been on silent since forever.
@ghostpunkkilla2 ай бұрын
lol
@GmanGSW2 ай бұрын
"Gundistry News!"=interesting news. I got bad vibes from BDU and am glad I never had anything to do with them. They seemed like a company that was able to bring items that were too good to be true, at times, while not being a third world country producer. Anyway, great video, Curt, keep the info coming and I hope We, the American People, get our YT back, allowing you creators, and Us users, a Censorship Free Platform! Done my part.
@FitnFire2 ай бұрын
Like number 200…comment for the algorithm
@RexSkittles2 ай бұрын
I’m always confused why the call it a gun “buyback”. No government agency has ever sold the public a gun as far as I know. I mean, there are those police used pistols that are sold by some dealers like Classic Firearms and others, but there aren’t any government gun stores that I’m aware of.
@seanfoltz7645Ай бұрын
This sort of behavior isn't just limited to the gun industry as there are a ton of medium and big companies which seem to feel that paying bills is entirely optional. My first real job was working for a company which sold plumbing supplies to everyone from the handyman who fixed your leaking faucet to national chain stores - I did collections work and the bigger the company, the more problematic they were about paying their bills. As you noted, a lot of the larger companies were fond of "aging" their bills as they put it, meaning they would wait several months - yeah, 90 days was the minimum as I had some inform me they waited upwards of 180 days - before paying bills. But some simply didn't pay bills until you either threatened to cut them off or let them know you were going to sic legal on them if they didn't promise to have a check in your hands by the end of the week - there I was at age 23 telling the accounting departments of national retailers that I was going to cut them off and have them sued if I didn't see a payment processing inside of 5 business days. I later got a job with a video game distributor and part of my duties also involved collections with clients and it was the same thing - national department store and video game specialty store chains forcing me to threaten no more video games on their shelves if I didn't have a check from them in my inbox by Monday morning. So the good news is that this isn't just a problem with the gun industry, although I'm loath to call a problem like this a good one for all those smaller companies that have to go through BS like that to get paid by them.
@marine6680Ай бұрын
Issues paying invoices on time or at all is a big sign of a struggling business. It happens in many industries. Basically they lack the sales volume to maintain their operations. It can be a catch 22... You need to maintain sufficient inventory to attract sales and limit out of stock situations so you can have increased sales. But you also need large sales volumes to maintain that inventory. Seems Big Daddy did not grow fast enough to sustain, or their antics cost them too many sales to maintain themselves.
@groberts1980Ай бұрын
I was a BDU member when they started. Good prices, but eventually they were out of stock on pretty much anything I needed so I canceled. Didn't even know about all the shady stuff they got into later on.
@themoose6615 күн бұрын
Man, I did get some decent stuff from them throughout the pandemic, namely 500rds of 410 birdshot for 10$ a box and 500rds of 4.6x30 for 20$ per box of 50
@Starwarsgames662 ай бұрын
Big Daddy Unlimited just sucks. They get you to spend money on a membership and then everything you want is never in stock.
@JoeA418Ай бұрын
Never spent a dime with big daddy, they seemed like a scam from the get go.
@ETHRON12 ай бұрын
This might get hate but for me, optics planet is another cheaper than dirt untrustworthy company....
@jeremyrode65812 ай бұрын
Mad respect to you VSO for making this video. You may have put yourself on an island with this even though you’re absolutely correct. I hope other gun tubers come out in support of you and the industry rot you’re calling out. 🇺🇸🤙
@stevetazphotoАй бұрын
Idk about all this controversy, but before their prices went up, their CS team really took care of me when I needed them too. Sad that they were shitty
@goodcitizen642 ай бұрын
FAFO...Go woke or corrupt go broke!! I bever used BDU or Cheaper than Dirt because I found the same items at better prices! I'm firm believer in spending locally with the mom's and pop's businesses!
@shannonmarcantel79932 ай бұрын
You hear a lot of no money exchanged hands between creator and said company but I’ve never heard said company paid Leviathan group and Leviathan group paid creator. I could see Leviathan group helps when a review is so bad it doesn’t get released or focusing on the positives in a bad review to polish the turd a little. BDU was good in the early days of business but poor management ran it into the ground. It was a buy early sell before crash situation.
@dodgersfnshepard86732 ай бұрын
Ill never understand how yhey got the 2a community to think they has a worth it idea. Glad i never gave them a cent
@RealBanzАй бұрын
I purchased from them and they have not refunded you the purchase and have not responded to any of my emails. What should I do? Its a pretty substantial refund.
@liquid_shadow8690Ай бұрын
Ordered from them a few times and then they stopped shipping things on time and it was just a big hassle. They sucked.
@jonathancorbett5917Ай бұрын
So perfect for high load, consistent load applications like generators and pumps
@thisagame58472 ай бұрын
Is there a blacklist that shows which companies have a history of stiffing clients?