I lived in NYC for 7 years and now been living in Los Angeles for a bit more than 7 years. 1st I have to say that I miss NYC a lot mostly because of its awesome gay community or gayborhood. As you mentioned in NYC gay bars/clubs are not focused only in one or two areas and the other thing is that you can find different categories of gay bars like yuppie/Chelsea boys bars, bear bars(stocky/chubby guys) and even some classy senior bars like Townhouse where you can find mostly older guys. But here in LA area there's not even one bear bar. And as you mentioned it's much easier in NYC gay bars to socialize with others. Overall I think culturally there's a big gap between east coast and west coast. And lastly ,as you mentioned, access to gay bars in NYC is absolutely easier because of public transportation but in LA you have to drive to places and if the place is not your place you either have to drive all the way back home or just get stuck in there hopping maybe you can find someone interesting.

Thank you for the video! I’m visiting NYC this summer for the first time, hopefully. (Funny how the video seems to end abruptly. 🤣)

I lived in West Hollywood during my twink years so it was easy to make new friends there, but most of them did not last more than a couple of years because it is a very transient city. New York is very touristy and when I started coming here I made acquaintances very quickly so I felt comfortable moving there and still go to the Monster even in Pandemic times. My days going to the big clubs are over, and even when I was younger I did not like Splash or other discos. However, on occasion before the pandemic I still went to the Hangar or Ty's if I was off work early enough and had a good dinner before I met up with friends at the Monster. I even would get my hair cut right next door on occasion! But making new friends I think is easier in New York because it is not a city that tolerates ageism unless you are going to a mainly younger crowd hangout, which I wouldn't do. If you go to the more artistic bars or cabarets, you will get to meet like-minded people, and then there are sports bars as well like the Rock Bar. I just hope when the pandemic is really over that we can have our places back with friendly allies coming in, and not the Invaders of bachelorettes like before.

Keven you mention that the bars in HK have a yuppy type crowd. You should have seen The Works on the Upper West Side in 1995. That place was a TOTAL yuppie/preppie crowd. A lot of the guys there ( it was good looking crowd) looked like they went to Prep schools in New England. Many a night there were guys wearing shirts that said - Yale, Princeton, Columbia- I think they thought it might make them more desirable.

Thanks for the tips

I’m thinking a great (multi-episode) topic might be the infamous gay hustler bars (from back in the day through to today), of various large cities in the USA and Canada. It’s rather tough to find out a lot of information on them and even harder to find footage on specific bars like ROUNDS in NYC. Do you have any links or would you consider this topic? Thx.

Your forgot to mention Long Beach gay bars and it in LA county on southeast corner near border of Orange County. On Broadway, there Mineshaft, Falcon, The Brit, Sweetwater Saloons and Broadway lounge all in walking distance and block away from a beach. There Hamburger Marys LB, Club Ribble(beachfront), Executive Club, Eagle 562, Flux and The Crest all in Long Beach. You should check it out.

On point! As a tourist to LA and New York in the past I agree with these observations 100%. Gay venues tend to be a little unfriendly all around the world but LA just takes the cake in my humble opinion. I’d choose the scene in New York over LA any day (not that I am particularly fond of the scene as a general rule!). I’ve chatted to more locals at New York venues than I have in LA ones as they feel less superficial to me.

smaller bars rock! they have the best atmosphere and it easier to talk to people.

LA For Life❤️

Good Vid. I like that you mention the progression of the "gay-borhood" in NYC. Me being a life long New Yorker/Brooklynite, Chelsea when emerging in the late 80s-mid 90s was a curiosity. Hell's Kitchen was a WTF moment. LOL. At one time, these neighborhoods were not safe, especially HK. (Hence the unofficial name of the area taken from a New York Times article in 1881 coined by some local police to categorize the crime and the Irish gangs that lived and worked that part of NYC- the actual name of the area is Clinton). These areas still had affordable rents for businesses and apartment. The West Village and then Chelsea priced itself out so people and commerce move. LOL I do not anticipate the new gay mecca to be Inwood or the South Bronx. LADIES!!! stop moving north!!! I am a subway rider from the southern part of Brooklyn! LOL. The same can be said for Brooklyn. Park Slope and now Williamsburg and Greenpoint have a thriving LGBTQ population with some cool bars and clubs. One thing I must correct you on. Sundays and most weekdays in NYC are busy in the late afternoon-early evening as well as in WE-HO (WE-HO, I-HO, YOU-HO, WE ALL HO!! lol). Most places have beer blasts, 2 for 1 drinks, and drink specials. Some have drag shows along with gogo-boy or strippers. Places in the WV like the Stonewall, The Monster, Ty's, The Rock Bar and The Egale are packed on a Sunday. The same can be said for Boxers-NYC in Chelsea, since they have 2 for1 drinks from 4 to 9 pm 7 days a week. Friday and Saturday are still the main stay for the club/bar crowd as well, but along with the after work/day drinkers, all of us are out, drinks in hand by 6pm all year round, and I love it!!! :-) All the best to you.

I'm from LA and I would just say that North hollywood as of 2010 to 2019 has its own gay scene. whats interesting about it is that it kinda caters to the 'others' under the rainbow. such as blacks and latinos and gay men 40+. the bars here are (and this is before covid) Oil can harry's which was a Disco/Western bar that catered mostly to 50+ people (basically anybody who actually was in there 20's in the 70's and 80's) Club Cobra which was pretty exclusively a latino bar. (its interesting going to a gay bar where everyone speaks Spanish and 75% of the room is hispanic ) The Bullet which is basically a fetish bar covering things like BDSM, Furry, Bear, Diaper Play, Leather, Puppy Play, etc. If your into something fringe they cater to it probably as long as it doesn't break the law LOL!. And Maybe C friends which is just kinda a dive bar. Noho is where you go if your weird or you just don't care about the 'scene' anymore and you just want to have fun.

WEHO bars are very fake with patrons looking for there next acting gig.

Interesting yes but maybe a little to similar to your previous content.

LA is vapid.