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Vintage 40MB harddisks booting into Windows 95 contest

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GenniDee

GenniDee

Күн бұрын

A useless but nonetheless entertaining competition between all of my tiny 40MB vintage harddisk drives (or at least one of each kind minus the 1.8" Integral Peripherals 1842 that is faulty). I let them boot a copy of Windows 95A (35.1MB) and see how long they take. Also the vintage-harddisk-sound-fanboys get their fair share of enchanting harddisk noises in C minor ^^
Contestants are:
Conner Peripherals CP3000
Seagate ST157A-1
Seagate ST351A/X
Maxtor 7040AT
Maxtor 8051A
Kalok KL-343
Western Digital WDAC140
and, for comparison, a more Win95 appropriate Seagate ST52520A
Have fun (:
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@MBC9277
@MBC9277 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I appreciate the time and effort it must have taken to make this comparison 👍
@gennidee
@gennidee Жыл бұрын
Thank you (: it was fun ... but yeah, it took some time, especially since the software I use is very hard to get decent results from. (:
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 4 жыл бұрын
omg, how cool is that! I love how you put all the small windows seeing the drives booting... great idea! Greetings from CPU Galaxy
@gennidee
@gennidee 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for complimenting my rudimentary editing skills (: I thought this was the easiest way of transporting all the information I wanted to give in this video within the time frame of the average youtube viewer's attention span since the video would otherwise have gotten way too long. This way the video is just over 4 minutes excluding the added clips of each individual drive for those who are really interested (or seek the ASMR experience ^^). By the way I recently discovered your channel as well and now that I think of it we can as well in Deutsch schreiben ^^ Sehr schöne und extrem gut präsentierte Sammlung, die Sie da haben. Hatte in den späten 90er und frühen 2000er Jahren auch einiges an alter Computertechnik inkl. CPUs und Mainboards, aber die Festplatten sind einzig davon noch übrig. Und es sind mittlerweile noch viel mehr geworden. Das Zeug wird langsam echt rar und damit teuer. Ich denke es ist ganz gut, daß es Sammler wie uns für alles mögliche gibt. So bleibt zumindest etwas von allem erhalten. Auch wenn meine Festplatten nach und nach das Zeitliche segnen. Ich teste sie regelmäßig durch und lagere sie dazwischen sicher, trocken, temperaturstabil und erschütterungsfrei. Dennoch, die Maxtor 8051, die hier in diesem Video zu sehen ist, fing letztens an mit defekten Sektoren um sich zu werfen. Komischerweise nach einem Scan mit SpinRite. Hat ihr wohl den Rest gegeben, was ich sehr schade fand. Insofern bin ich ganz froh noch ein Video von ihr zu haben ^^ Weiterhin ist bei den WD's ein Todesfall zu verzeichnen. Wird einfach von jetzt auf gleich nicht mehr erkannt. Ich hebe sie trotzdem auf. Vielleicht kann man mal aus 2 Laufwerken eines machen, so wie heute bei zwei Seagate ST9190AG Laufwerken geschehen. Eine mit defekter Platine (wird nicht erkannt), eine mit vermutlich Head Crash. Ich überlege, ob sich daraus vielleicht Stoff für ein Video ergeben könnte ... Viele Grüße und sicherlich bis später ... ich schaue immer mal bei Ihnen auf dem Kanal vorbei (:
@MyComputerStudios_
@MyComputerStudios_ Жыл бұрын
@@gennidee i don't understand german so if this isn't anything like a personal chat, can you translate it?
@gennidee
@gennidee Жыл бұрын
@@MyComputerStudios_ Well since I never received an answer I think this can technically not be called a personal chat ^^ I was just complementing his channel and talking about future videos.
@MyComputerStudios_
@MyComputerStudios_ Жыл бұрын
@@gennidee never mind, used the comment translation feature on my phone, and got it
@maxtornogood
@maxtornogood 4 ай бұрын
Have to say I enjoy the random rock music that goes with this! I also enjoy the sound of old hard drives 😄
@gennidee
@gennidee 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Glad you like the video (:
@RicardoAmaralAndrade
@RicardoAmaralAndrade Жыл бұрын
Long time no see, my old friend. miss the times we spent hours together (because you were kind of slow). Memory is eternal!
@gennidee
@gennidee Жыл бұрын
Imagine one of those old buggers as the boot drive in your modern pc. I mean hypothetically, if it could hold a modern day OS. I think you would spend even more time together ^^ waiting for the OS to finish booting
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 3 жыл бұрын
Now _that_ was satisfying. 😌
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
Eargasm for all ya ASMR folks ^^
@BaguetesGarage
@BaguetesGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 ST351A/X from my youth and the spinup and head seek on startup still amazes me 🤩
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice drives (: I like this model a lot. Hope yours continue to work fine.
@BaguetesGarage
@BaguetesGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@gennidee still good after 30 years 😅 I checked quickly on eBay, some are selling for 200€? 😱
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. I mean there's always that one crazy dude getting up in the morning and buying stuff for way over price but they usually sell much cheaper. The most expensive ones I aquired cost me about 70€ incl. shipping and import fees from the US for 2 drives. The other ones I got way cheaper.
@cdos9186
@cdos9186 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! You are lucky to have a working Kalok drive.
@gennidee
@gennidee 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ... Yes, read about them being fairly unreliable and as you can see from my other video featuring a KALOK drive the rumors seem to be true. I keep my fingers crossed at least the KL-343 keeps working for a long time since I really think it is a nice drive, with all the odd sounds it makes ^^
@cdos9186
@cdos9186 4 жыл бұрын
I am still trying to find a working KL-3100. I think those Kalok drives are nice as well with the sounds they make. I am trying to get the IBM Deskstar 75GXP series as of right now. I have the DTLA-307015 as of right now. It is actually pretty hard to find the DTLA-307060. I found the DTLA-307020 and DTLA-307030 on eBay for only about $10 each. I love these drive because the DTLA-307015 I have is super fast, and somehow it is faster than a Seagate ST3250620NS from 2008, which is eight years newer!
@gennidee
@gennidee 4 жыл бұрын
Well good luck completing your series. As far as I remember these DTLA drives were very prone to failure and gave IBM a bad reputation back then. Some dude I knew from college had a DTLA drive that failed just months after he put it into service. He got a new one because it was still under warranty but of course his data was lost. He sold it on eBay without even unpacking it and bought a Samsung drive i think. Anyways, hope the DTLA drives that survived "infant mortality" stay reliable so a collector like you can use them for years to come (:
@cdos9186
@cdos9186 4 жыл бұрын
@@gennidee I really love these drives for that reason, they are high performers, but not reliable. I love the way these drives look, and I absolutely love the seek test these drives have. When these drives fail, all of them except the DTLA-307060 and DTLA-307075 (The ones with the most failures) , they make a certain beep that there is something about that makes these drives special to me. The one I have has no bad sectors, what a shocker! By the way, NO ONE has mentioned this, the ones with the smaller circuit board with the tape that holds the ribbon cable down are the ones that seem to be the dead ones. Also another thing is the ones that are made in Hungary appear to be less reliable, but mine is made in Hungary and works perfectly. No one has really gone into the issue with these drives apart from them being unreliable and having head crashes. I should buy one with the smaller circuit board and tape on the ribbon cable to see if the ones with the smaller board and tape are actually the bad ones. I will see if that one has bad sectors. That is, if I can find a working one with the smaller board and tape on the ribbon cable. If I ever have one that fails, I will take the cover off and make it a display piece in my room. The way these drives look on the inside also is another reason I love these drives so much.
@gennidee
@gennidee 4 жыл бұрын
@@cdos9186 Interesting reason to collect something ... I usually collect to preserve or to resell in the future when prices have gone up. Never heard of someone deliberately collecting stuff because it can go bad at any time. Well why not ^^ someone has to preserve the stuff that is normally rejected because of production flaws (: maybe in some years time you have the only working DTLA drives in the world ^^ if they work...
@Kali_Krause
@Kali_Krause 3 жыл бұрын
You know a Maxtor drive is bad when a Kalok drive beats it 😂 Btw, It's a maxtor joke 🤣 I had a Vintage hard drive from an old Windows 95 machine but i refurbished it and sold the computer. I had a Maxtor drive named Falcon in a Windows 98 machine. It lasted 11 years before dying
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair the Kalok didn't perform too bad. The Maxtor 8051A just was very sluggish^^ it was the only drive I couldn't clone the Norton Ghost image to, though, because of a bad sector. So I copied the data manually. I think the order of files on the disk might have been different compared to the other drives. So it was not really a fair comparison.
@uc8tv
@uc8tv 2 жыл бұрын
I found a JTS Palladium on ebay for $7.50 should I get it? Also I found a Kalok 343 for $49.99 should I get it too?
@gennidee
@gennidee 2 жыл бұрын
I can't advise you on that... if the JTS works it's probably a no brainer for a collector to buy it but you will only know for sure if it works once it arrived. The KALOK would be too expensive for me but then again I see that HDDs are sold for crazy money on ebay so that decision is very subjective...
@MurtKesr
@MurtKesr 3 жыл бұрын
me and the bois mining bitcoin
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long it would take with a bunch of these old buggers ^^
@fallingwater
@fallingwater 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know where was such a thing as a stepper IDE drive, thought all steppers were MFM. Now, how to get my hands on a Kalok 343...
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
There were quite a few actually. The most common being the Seagate ST157A and ST351A/X, the Western Digital 93044A (former Tandon) and maybe the Kalok KL343, KL3100 and KL3120 drives. A lot less common from my experience are Seagate ST125A (really want one of these) and ST352A (got one recently), Kyocera KC40-GA (had one 20 years ago but sold it unfortunately) and there are probably some more IDE drives with stepper motor that I don't remember from the back of my head. Since these KALOK drives seem to be quite unreliable try getting your hands on a Seagate ST157A. They are pretty common so you should be able to find one on eBay for a reasonable price.
@fallingwater
@fallingwater 3 жыл бұрын
@@gennidee Now that you mention it memories of these are coming back. I never saw an IDE stepper personally, only MFM steppers and IDE coils, so I must have convinced myself they were all like that. But I do remember checking out the redhill pages (www.redhill.net.au/id.html) a while ago, so I must have read about them.
@gennidee
@gennidee 3 жыл бұрын
The redhill pages were a very useful source of information for me as well (: By the way I just checked my Seagate data sheet collection and there must also have been an ST138A and ST325A/X. They must also have been quite rare. I owned an ST325X once and sold it because it's XT only but I never saw an ST325A/X.
@MyComputerStudios_
@MyComputerStudios_ Жыл бұрын
@@gennidee the ST125A is a ST157A with lower capacity and slower performance.
@gennidee
@gennidee Жыл бұрын
@@MyComputerStudios_ And very rare. The ST-125 was pretty common but I never saw an ST-125A on eBay or anywhere else. Would love to add one to my collection.
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