Vintage Vs Modern (Small Clone, DS-1, Meat Box) With Rob Scallon

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Жыл бұрын

On today's episode of "Can You Hear It?" we're joined by the magic man himself, Rob Scallon! Will he be able to tell the difference between expensive and cheap pedals? Only time will tell.
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@thenameless3271 Жыл бұрын

He's got the gloves

@terryconnell Жыл бұрын

We love Rob's creativity. The planet could use a healthy dose of more Rob Scallons.

@AROtotheN Жыл бұрын

A clone army of annoying semi-talented ugly autists? No thank you

@christophernoia5197 Жыл бұрын

My old band mate had a vintage small stone that sounded so damn cool and different than any other small stone because something in it was broken. The rate was super super slow, creating these insane phase swells that ended up being vital for a couple songs' rhythm parts. Nothing else like it. My grand orbiter can get pretty slow, but the phase sound is totally different. I miss that pedal

@user-ok3po8gz4w Жыл бұрын

That gloved hand movement.. I love it

@El...Presidente Жыл бұрын

Lol for real. It’s like a Nintendo game or something 😅

@austinfitch2395 Жыл бұрын

I’m kinda missing the rubber ducks in this stream. They were a vibe. Please include them next time.

@underground_fuzz Жыл бұрын

This was fun! 😄 Best day today because the JHS show released a new episode and I got hired at a new job! ⚡ Really was impressed by that Waza Boss Distortion sound! 🔥🎸 Thank you for making the world better! 💕

@sailorr4287 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your great day! I hope that job goes great for a while, and leads you on.

@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Жыл бұрын

Congrats 🍻💯

@littlearsehole75 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the new job!

@dougiemanross Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@ry7hym Жыл бұрын

congrats on your new job!

@sweettoof9002 Жыл бұрын

Money is hard to hear is a great line, Josh. I lol’ed

@dancrowe7860 Жыл бұрын

Phew! I'm glad Rob can still make videos! I just subscribed to his channel after his trip to JHS.

@jeffjefferson8137 8 ай бұрын

idk how i missed this, but i’m so glad i found some rob videos i haven’t watched yet. i hope he gets better soon, he’s one of my favorite musician youtubers to watch. he can explain anything so well and put it into terms even i understand

@jawnedgaralice8606 Жыл бұрын

I missed these so much! This one was one for the history books

@billyboyd418 Жыл бұрын

I paid $70 for my small clone with the MN3007 chip this last Halloween, old style power plug. Reverb has some stupid prices on these pedals.

@less_concerned1221 Жыл бұрын

I really liked the DS-1 shootout! Pretty wild that they sounded so close. I have one from ‘84 and one from 2010ish era. They sound quite different. Waza Craft is good stuff.

@michael_caz_nyc Жыл бұрын

This channel gets better & better. Josh is a good-guy. He is so gracious to Promote other brands . . . "It takes a Confident-Pedal-builder" - to do this.

@edge4266 Жыл бұрын

there was a really good quote in rob scallons world record pedalboard video that was something along the lines of ‘there’s a sense of collaboration in the pedal market because no one brand is gonna dominate a single board’

@17thshard62 Жыл бұрын

@@edge4266 Makes sense, the Japanese market is just as happy shelling out money for Soul Foods or EUNA pedals as we are for their Boss pedals even with their larger market share and home market advantage.

@thedeadxtras9927 Жыл бұрын

Again another great episode! Love these episode challenges, they always prove that the expensive pedals aren’t always best so buy with your ears not your eyes, forget any pedal snobbery that is sadly everywhere in the guitar world and you’ll all have a lot more dollar left in your wallets. Thanks again JHS thoroughly entertaining as always.

@ArvidNielsen Жыл бұрын

Love these episodes. Love also of your episodes. These just put all the hype and nonsense to bed, solidly. TY!

@joermnyc Жыл бұрын

Glad to see you had Rob around for this.

@daceyatesfdfband3209 Жыл бұрын

I am sick of black pedal boards. How about a white JHS pedal board? With white patch cords.

@MoncoField Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine they dont do that cause pedal boards live on dirty floors and get stomped on by dirty shoes

@naturaljoe7397 9 ай бұрын

Paint

@Hiseternallight 8 ай бұрын

This year I started gigging with a white Gator aluminum board and it still looks pretty new/clean. I'm thinking about switching the black Velcro to white velcro now.

@joshuamorganmusic Жыл бұрын

I had a few of these OG pedals cuz I bought em back in the day when they weren’t vintage lolz! They worked great until they didn’t and had the reissued meatbox, it was as good as I remembered

@glassGPT Жыл бұрын

Rob’s reaction to the nerf 😂😂😂 Great guest

@gooseabuse Жыл бұрын

First pressing of a book vs modern paper back can you read the difference!?!?

@leeasbury7273 Жыл бұрын

Next to overdrive (if u can call that an effect) chorus is my favorite effect. Well, Vibe too

@NoBrakes23 Жыл бұрын

I'm just learning about all of this, but I think Chorus is the Almond Joy to Vibrato's Mounds. (substitute wet/dry for nuts)

@peddlereffects Жыл бұрын

I definitely had more fun watching this episode in my soft yellow “Crazy Muff” t-shirt

@nicolascleroux4231 Жыл бұрын

I understand that nerves got the better of him when I heard « the nobs all the way up » on a DS-1… nothing survives with the Tone nob passed noon!

@fernfernacelli Жыл бұрын

This rocked. I’d be curious to see the Meat Box compared using a bass guitar, and going through (at least) 1 18” subwoofer. I’d had the original for a long while, and now have the newer one. Both are awesome, but I never got to A/B them… Cheers, all! \m/, 😊 ,\m/

@SlowToe Жыл бұрын

Josh is like Mickey Mouse with those gloves 🎶🎵🏰

@HenritheHorse Жыл бұрын

The original Clone sounds so much better and alive than any of the new ones.

@zandig666 Жыл бұрын

I like the small clone big box I have I really don't think of it as a full on chorus but it really gives me something I need in a certain place on my board

@ansmfella Жыл бұрын

"Sooo, I'm gonna have to go to Quizno's today" 😂

@PatrickBoberg Жыл бұрын

This was, dare I say... Gnarly

@dirkmcgirk6508 Жыл бұрын

Subway doesn’t do $5 footlongs anymore I thought

@wesmitchem825 Жыл бұрын

It's the vintage small stone that sounds better not small clone and between the small clones the neo clone isn't bad it's the nano clone that sucks cause you don't get a depth switch

@ratdude747 Жыл бұрын

I miss $5 footlongs... darn inflation!

@andrewsmith1520 Жыл бұрын

I wish the DS-1 was the standard new version, and not a Waza...

@scotthutchens1203 Жыл бұрын

Me too because I just bought a used one for $35 that’s like new-Taiwan made. So it’s late model. My first time owning a DS-1 since in the late 70’s I opted for a Rat instead of the DS-1.

@donkick2622 Жыл бұрын

The Neo Clone is almost $90 at Sweetwater...

@wraith1977 Жыл бұрын

Just FYI, no biggie ; there aren't any $5 footlongs anymore.

@matthewdancik5515 Жыл бұрын

I Love This Show!!!

@DylanWOWilliams 7 ай бұрын

More of these please.

@sweetlowsounds Жыл бұрын

Rob is doing his best impression of the Damn Yankees video for (Can I Take You) High Enough. Will his rockin be enough to repel the Nerf Darts?

@nesicus 9 ай бұрын

Just watched the Klon video, then the Big Muff video, and now finished this one. I got 3/3, 3/3, and 3/3, though it was lucky with the Meatbox, because I also didn't know much about what they did (although I've seen and heard of them before.) But I went with the idea of advances in processing and managed to suss it out that way.

@bubble-and-scrape Жыл бұрын

Vintage Small Clone in the original box worth 600 dollars? I’m open for offers, willing to sell mine in prestine condition in a flash!

@the1khronohs40 Жыл бұрын

Love the glasses! Hi Rob! 👋😬

@nugznmugz Жыл бұрын

I'm quickly becoming a serious JHS fanboi

@lepanzon Жыл бұрын

Why does Josh look like the old man from Toy Story 2 that fixes Woody with those glasses and gloves?

@jonwanrocks Жыл бұрын

i just acquired a vintage EH4600 in a bulk pedal buy from an old huy today. i got like 5 pedals for 150$. then i reverb'd them and wutttt idk what to do with it cause it sounds REALLY cool

@leehodgkiss15 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see some delay and reverb comparisons

@sounDr. Жыл бұрын

I want your Jurassic Park cup Joshua

@cameronstolhand7149 Жыл бұрын

I think the difference in the small clones was due to different values in the potentiometers which is completely random. That would be interesting if we had more to compare from to see if I'm right.

@stuartchapman5171 Жыл бұрын

I watched a video recently that showed some of the small stones having different cap values and types and a tutorial on how to hack it to original. It wasn't a Neo which may well have good caps. The only difference I could hear was speed. That was listening on cheap cans via a fone, so not a good test.

@rosswilliams5339 Жыл бұрын

I love this game...

@robertsimpson5801 Жыл бұрын

Lenny’s Subs, baby. That Philly cheesesteak… 🤤

@Airhead348 Жыл бұрын

I just got a used triangle buff. It sounds good.

@rootvalue Жыл бұрын

but why

@MarkRigler Жыл бұрын

Request knob action lol

@simonpark843 Жыл бұрын

You guys need a 'He has the gloves' stinger...

@chromedomejunior Жыл бұрын

I heard the Waza DS-1 immediately as more…hi-fi? Better note separation? Like, it seemed clearer at noon. I was so wrong about the Clone and Meatboi that you’d have to add a third contestant to make it make sense It’s pretty neat seeing how different Experienced Pedal People ™️…y’know…experience pedals…people

@markhammer643 Жыл бұрын

Shootouts of nearly any and every kind always confound component tolerances with issue-differences. If Rob had 20 examples of each issue to try, and there was a *consistent* audible difference in "gnarliness" across any randomly-selected pair of newer and original pedals, compared blind as they are here, then one could draw confident inferences. But, done the way it's being done here, it's simply a party game with no real informational value. About 15 or so years back, I read an interview with Mike Matthews - Mr. Cigar himself - in a business magazine, where he noted that one could take any four consecutively built Big Muffs off the production line in the '70s, and they would all sound different from each other. Though 1% resistors have become abundant and much cheaper, the tolerances of capacitors have not improved all that much in the intervening 45 years, resulting in variation across pedals. It's not AS huge as it once was. But there can be just as much, if not more, variation *within* an issue than *across* issues.

@alexfischer8471 Жыл бұрын

Yesssss Jersey Mike’s reigns supreme!!

@moronsmorons8913 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. The original DS1 sounds warmer and louder than the Waza. Wasn't expecting this, it's the opposite with their Blues Driver.

@tavao420 Жыл бұрын

the newer one probably works better in a mix though, since it has slightly more vocal upper mids and less boomy lows.. both sound cool anyway, it's a very subtle difference.

@moronsmorons8913 Жыл бұрын

@@tavao420 Not sure about this. I love my Waza pedals, but in this case the DS1W sounds much thinner than the vintage one. The actual question is, how does the Waza compared to a contempary cheap DS1?

@djay6651 Жыл бұрын

I like that Rob is wearing safety glasses, just in case he gets shot. Safety first.....

@Emet.V Жыл бұрын

15:44 jersey Mike’s is the best

@jmabs5096 Жыл бұрын

15:40 I can vouch for Chicago suburbs, jersey mikes hands down a "sub above" sandwich joint

@sconni666 Жыл бұрын

Josh looks like the Tootsie Pop owl.

@diodesDankessAndDives Жыл бұрын

Idea (nerf colored pedal ) called the throat shot

@adriantomo5688 Жыл бұрын

this video's glove action is 1000 times more aggressive and creepier than the previous episodes 😂

@adriantomo5688 Жыл бұрын

especially around 11:15, that glove action was sexual!

@limpindug Жыл бұрын

This is a top format guys, when the fella couldn't tell the difference between the klon and the Amazon pedal I've been staring at my navel ever since, 😂😂😂👍👍👍🥃Respect to you fellas.

@charless6136 Жыл бұрын

1:11 Joshuas with threatening auras

@jhspedals Жыл бұрын

lol, you know me! 💁🏻‍♂️

@randa4382 Жыл бұрын

Is that a nicely appointed vendetta robs got there?

@coltonclement Жыл бұрын

Going into the video, If there’s one thing I have learned from JHS is that the old/expensive one must be magic and better for some reason.

@ianhennessy8750 Жыл бұрын

@jhs please make a 'knob action' shirt!

@chacalito7890 Жыл бұрын

el mejor con canal con el mejor rob scallon ✨🪔🌼

@dasdrewski7505 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see what pedals get price inflated this week 😂

@surfthejapstrat7010 Жыл бұрын

I miss Quiznos in Indiana

@witchfindergeneralelectric8758 Жыл бұрын

Biggest difference between the the original EHX pedals and the Neos is the originals still work. My nreo small stone just died after a year of light home use. I wanted to try a brand nex EHX pulsar tremolo in a store a while back, they pulled it from the display cabinet, pluged it in, didn't work. The more expensive pedals, like my Super Ego, still works most of the time but the budget EHX pedals, in my experience, waste of time and money. Would never buy another.

@HenritheHorse Жыл бұрын

Biggest difference was how great the original sounds to the new shitty one.

@randa4382 Жыл бұрын

Thats funny you say that... i hadnt really thought about this but during the apocalypse a friend was scamming the unemployment system so he really wasnt being particularly responsible with money. He ended up getting a bunch of the new-ish ehx stuff. Before i even got a chance to go hang out and check out this bad ass board he had been sending me progress pics of.... i go over there one day and we are talking gear etc and i mention 'let me check out that board' and after some hemming and hawing he was like 'i think i may have hooked em up wrong or something...' and shows me a board with a bunch of dismantled pedals and circuits. At the time i honestly just chalked it up to the fact that his other new hobby he had discovered with his govt money happened to be methamphetamine. I mean... he actually is capable of some electronic engineering etc and i kind of figured he got to tweaking and just tore them up in a drug addled state.... now i wonder if maybe it was a bit of both. Glad i ran across this though cuz it hadnt even crossed my mind that faulty pedals would even be a factor cuz they were almost all ehx... specifically i said something about like, "damn at least it was a pretty board." Cuz they all had cool graphics etc... was the hot wax ehx? Pretty certain that was the one he said started the whole chain of events.

@TheRealcdawg22 Жыл бұрын

Alot of the older EHX stuff had different power requirements (not all of them were 9V) and they weren't necessarily labeled on the pedals themselves. I had to label all of the EHX wall warts I have because of that issue. Although not before accidentally frying a Korg Tuner with a 40V EHX power supply.

@stuartchapman5171 Жыл бұрын

I've heard a lot of people moaning about newer ehx. I own a burst. I bought it used, no idea of age, it looks pretty new. It's fine, I had a holy grail from new. Just sold it, nice sound too tame. I do own an der Memory boy, an old one.. One of the batch that had the trims tunned by a dodgy tech. I've got it running a bit better. It got a low pass filter, lo fi sound. No good for music but works on my dark ambient work. My own experience is the opposite but I'm one of many users. I'm definitely cautious now. There's too many "quality" brands that seem to trade on there name these days.

@randa4382 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealcdawg22 40v.... jesus! what is that even for!? And yeah i could see that being a problem. Its weird to think that at one point they werent really worried about pedals getting alomg together on a board cuz there were only like 3 effects available lol. Still shakin my head over 40v though.... i dont think i have a drill that runs off a 40v supply.

@reptilianblues Жыл бұрын

Looks like a reissue small clone to me, has the larger red LED. The originals are clear and tiny.

@reptilianblues Жыл бұрын

The originals also do not have the dash between FULL and CHORUS

@iamroberty Жыл бұрын

What is this, a crossover episode?

@codesent2125 Жыл бұрын

Ouu I was right on the DS-1!

@DarthEcoli Жыл бұрын

My big box Small clone is just a reissue and not vintage, but you can still bag one for the $40 used I payed for mine. The faster of the OG is what gave it away for me. I wouldn't necessarily hate on a neo clone, but again finding the real deal for $40 is hard to pass up.

@markv3072 Жыл бұрын

I’m quite hurt to find out that the EHX Neo Clone is being bashed, as you guys mentioned. I use one and love it, so I don’t know where the hate is coming from. Anyway, I don’t really care. I love the Neo Clone and won’t budge because a bunch of people are hating on it. 😅😅😅

@thebreakfastmenu Жыл бұрын

Josh not knowing the Nano Clone is what's 50 dollars and pooped on on the internet, not the Neo Clone made me feel like a little more of an expert on EHX today.

@WRCzATL Жыл бұрын

Jersey Mike's smokes Jimmy Johns in every way except speed.

@jeffjefferson8137 8 ай бұрын

next time you should wave a stack of hundred dollar bills and one dollar bills next to the contestant and see if they can tell the difference

@MorbidManoeuvres 2 ай бұрын

I totally felt the original small clone more

@peppermintpasta 5 ай бұрын

11:04 Interpetating!

@krispykrunkdonut 2 ай бұрын

the small clone was the only one where i could hear a distinct difference between the two. and in that case the vintage was better imo. just not $400 worth lol

@Patriotic327 Жыл бұрын

Rob has my high school haircut. Hmmm should I grow back into that?

@mookmook5715 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes there's a true vintage tonal positive towards the vintage.. but just like cars and guitars us humans are sooo nostalgic.

@doctorscoot Жыл бұрын

Jesus, that last pair of pedals they both sounded completely arse.

@AldeanLeger Жыл бұрын

They should have informed him they are synth pedals

@paulsonn1308 Жыл бұрын

Correct me if I am wrong but that doesn't look like the vintage small clone, looks like the reissue?

@ravenslaves Жыл бұрын

I usually do pretty good at these challenges. But not for good reasons. It seems that the vintage pedals tend to have more noise associated with them, but more headroom at the same time. Slightly fuller sounding. The reproductions seem to be cleaner, but slightly more compressed. The same tends to hold true for stereo receivers also. I believe it has something more to do with the construction and components, and the possibility of slight circuit changes. I've had electrical engineers explain why...in great...mind numbing....detail. That may, or may not, have involved other dimensions and maybe Klingons. But when faced with the choice between a $600 vintage or a $50 reissue, the money wins every time. No one will hear the difference. No one will care. And I can have a pedal _and_ pay a few bills with the money saved.

@jaroslavkubicek9410 Жыл бұрын

You can clearly hear vintage Small Clone has a touch of flange in its sound, which new units do not have. This is because of SAD Reticon chip they used in early 80’s. And yes … 600$ “Reticon” Clone is no joke as 99 % of us own 1999-present reissue.

@davidfoley4707 Жыл бұрын

Who is rob scallon

@Boywhocriedrainbow Жыл бұрын

Jersey Mikes is F’ing Delicious

@robertshamansky1912 Жыл бұрын

Clone Theory was the best sounding chorus ever 🥳🥳

@mwmmatt1 Жыл бұрын

The Dytronics Tri Stereo Chorus sounds far better to me but that's because I'm a sucker for 80's rack tones lol, that's definitely a love it or hate it thing

@mattcarnevali Жыл бұрын

The show has resorted to firing squads over vintage pedals 💀

@markm1514 Жыл бұрын

I'm slightly disappointed that the Ricky Mouse gloves were retired

@raedellwood6911 Жыл бұрын

Love how you identify who the loser is in the chat just for some extra guilt on the contestant. Great way to encourage more people to play the game. Oh, only US money is hard to hear, every have a pocket full of Loonies?

@kodykindhart5644 Жыл бұрын

Instant like 🤘

@ScottyBrockway Жыл бұрын

Heheh, DOD power jacks hardly ever work, gotta use battery. That switchcraft plastic body 1/8th jack really sucks, I always replace them with the better quality version.

@Unusualsuspect24 Жыл бұрын

Great guest. Could have been longer!

@davidfellows6250 Жыл бұрын

i dont do fast food but from what i understand is a 5$ footlong is now 10$ so your only buying them a half of a sandwich.

@ajplays-gamesandmusic4568 6 ай бұрын

What is the purpose of the meatbox? It genuinely just sounds like a broken pedal (and this is coming from a person that listens to all kinds of experimental music. I've seen Merzbow live. They were having difficulties with it, and once they finally got it working, I assumed they were still having issues).