“Violence Is Bred by Occupation:” Historian Rashid Khalidi on Israel-Gaza

“Violence Is Bred by Occupation:” Historian Rashid Khalidi on Israel-Gaza | Amanpour and Company

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In a recent New York Times opinion piece, Palestinian-American historian Rashid Khalidi raises his concerns over U.S. policy and what America’s unwavering support for Israel means for peace efforts in the region. He talks to Michel Martin about the ramifications of this policy decision, which could go on for many more years.
Originally aired on Oct 18, 2023
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@NSGca 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for letting your guest speak without interruption. Unless one can finish a thought, you'll never understand the issues. Whether you agree or disagree. ✌️

@wendyliz4607 6 ай бұрын

Yhanks a million for this interview. I really learnt a lot and the truth about this unfairness on the palestine people.

@paulsawayer1949 6 ай бұрын

His points of what the violence is likely to perpetuate for Palestinianians in the future are valid. The problem is a lack of knowledge about history by leaders of the worlds Democracies. Democracies. This history that goes back to WW I and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire by the allies and the subsequent "guardianship" given to Great Britain. The Zionist movement, born in the 1800s, was able to influence the British Mandates so that Israel could eventually become recognized as an independent country at the expense of the indigenous Palestinian people. The previous Land Law of the Ottoman Empire in 1859, expedited the ability of Israelis to move to Palestine from all over the world and buy Palestinian lands. The Zionist goal was for a worldwide population of "homeless" Jews to finally have a national identity. Hitlers Holocaust during WW II created significant guilt for the allied nations because they all hesitated to enter the war and then stop the murderous tragedy because of their own national politics. Israel, to this day, has benefited from this international guilt over their suffering during the Holocaust. Palestinians should not be satisfied with losing their lands and suffering under Israel's infliction of an apartheid like governance over them. Israel should strive to be better than this because they know what suffering and being disenfranchised as a people is all about! Until world leaders develop the moral and political courage to insist on a just solution for Palestinians, there will never be long term peace and the eradication of terrorism.

@shonhashmi6173 6 ай бұрын

No Israel Existed in 1947 No Hamas until recently! Stop Lies. Its about 75+Years of Brutal Israeli OCCUPATION, WARCRIMES &Genocide of 200K+Palestinian Civilians Mostly Children ....

@luiseljpc 6 ай бұрын

Great interview. She was a tough interviewer and pushed him on critical questions, while giving him time to answer without interruption. More of this please.

@michaelmcdonagh5104 7 ай бұрын

Professor Rashid Khalidi was grace and patience personified.

@jointheconversation8385 7 ай бұрын

Beautiful interview with Prof Rashid . It should help the Western world to really understand and do something concrete to solve the problem . For the first time , I commend CNN ,and C Amanpour for allowing Prof Rashid to speak his mind and giving us an unbiased interview.

@gnweiss 6 ай бұрын

Fix your own problems of corruption hate and just being general inhumane assholes

@JamesOGrady 6 ай бұрын

Before the massacre, yes, but not now. All chances of peace are gone. Israel isn't interested.

@dcaustx 7 ай бұрын

Everyone should watch this 18 min video. This provides excellent context. I wish this perspective was more mainstream in the U.S.

@wonDER1973 6 ай бұрын

That's how you have an interview discussing a highly volatile and emotional subject. Love Michel Martin.

@knittingbouvier 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this interview. Professor Rashid Khalidi’s words need to be heard far and wide because he is one of the few people speaking sense.

@mcxx871 6 ай бұрын

100% agree!!!

@zblumenfeld 7 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. I wish more media outlets were covering this in this manner.

@gracielazaffarana9777 6 ай бұрын

Yes, indeed! Excellent interview. The journalist was the devil's advocate asking all the questions that the majority of American politicians and the press are churning to the public , and the Palestinian American historian replied soundly and coherently; it was a cry from the depths of humanity, that keeps being ignored and silenced. By the way, fortunately what is hopeful, is that there are many Israelis that would agree to a significant degree with Rashid Khalidi.

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

He has failed to discuss Islamists and Jihadism. Failed to mention that the chief instigator of the Arab-Israeli conflict 1920-1960 was the supreme Islamic leader Mohamad Amin Al Husseini. Izz A Din A Qassam brigade of Hamas is called after a Jihadist born in Syria who moved to Haifa to preach Islam and organized Jihadist gang in the 1930. He skipped Islamic radicalization of the whole Arab world in recent decades. He spoke like an advocate lawyer not like a historian.

@Woosaidthat 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@ef2718what Arab Israeli conflict? There was no Israel in 1920. I don’t understand your lament.

@collins48lc 6 ай бұрын

@ef2718 also forgot to mention the HAMAS COVENANT THAT SAYS THEIR GOAL IS TO KILL ALL THE JEWS AND DESTROY THE STATE OF ISRAEL and there is no such people as ethnic Palestinians

@collins48lc 6 ай бұрын

@@Woosaidthatright THE grand Mufti who allied with Hitler and 20,000 Muslims made up regiments of the nazi SS His goal was to help Hitler exterminate the jews in Europe then planned with help of Hitler set up concentration camps in the mid east to exterminate the jews there Rashid lies

@user-en4dx5uj4w 6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately US made itself irrelevant in this situation. When you give unconditional support to one of the two parties, you are not neutral anymore. US was never neutral in this issue.

@tonalddrump8370 6 ай бұрын

Well said.

@theawesome8654 6 ай бұрын

Yes, it's very strange how they act like the US hasn't knowingly supported the apartheid all along and done next to nothing to alleviate the trauma.

@janconway2880 6 ай бұрын

That is correct, US supports Israel and always has as well as the western world also Hamas is supported with Iran, and the rest of the Arab world so tell me what is your point. Israel is a country that has fought to stay alive because a terrorist group wants to wipe them out, and that was proven Oct 7th in fact most of the Arab world does, as they did not condemn what happened on Oct 7th.

@garyleiser753 6 ай бұрын

You are a brave man Prof Khalidi.

@ash-dl8ff 6 ай бұрын

He looks so exhausted and broken. My heart goes out to this man, and all of his loved ones in Palestine.

@lornajoseph5206 6 ай бұрын

Wow! Thank you for this interview. It was excellent. No interruption from the interviewer allowing the interviewee, to speak FAIRLY, INFORMATIVELY, BALANCED and pointing out things that i never knew e.g Israel at one time recognised Hamas!!!! An eye opener. Let us pray for PEACE ON BOTH SIDES, AS FAR TOO MANY LIVES ARE INNOCENTLY BEING TAKEN. Let the 'SUPERPOWERS' work diligently to help free the hostages AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. LORD HELP US ALL TO BE BETTER HUMAN BEINGS.

@sweetaznspice1 6 ай бұрын

This is how an interview should be conducted on such sensitive and controversial issues, pressing and probing yet maintaining respect for the interviewee by letting them do most of the talking.

@medialcanthus9681 6 ай бұрын

Some journalists do not flow with the guest, listen to his answers and so on. All they want to do is to read out their prepared questions out to get them into the time slot. Others are worse they push their personal point of view.

@livea3596 6 ай бұрын

Very illuminating interview. The grief on that man's face 😢

@Bipkhim 7 ай бұрын

Rashid has a clear picture of what needs to happen in order achieve, not only peace, but a home for Palestinians...

@Anp562 6 ай бұрын

He can say what he wants sitting in the US but this rationality doesn't work in the middle east

@jellyrcw12 6 ай бұрын

Go on....

@pebblepod30 5 ай бұрын

How on earth can that be achieved while Hamas has power of govt in gaza?

@ghalibmarsal4887 3 ай бұрын

@@pebblepod30how can you expect peace in a settler occupation reenforced with Apartheid and non conformity to the most mandane international laws. The brutality which Palestinian children face in Israeli prisions and Military courts is just a starter. Child killing is a condoned policy - look it up. Peace cannot be expected if there are no basic rights for Palestinians. The world is aghast at the genocide now conducted. By the way Hamas was ISRAEL'S INVENTION. SPONSORED , BACKED AND ADVOCATED BY BIBI.

@aggelikispiliotopoulos7179 6 ай бұрын

Clear, calm educational interview. Thank you we see clearer!

@gooddaysahead1 6 ай бұрын

I am very weary of journalists asking, "How did you feel?," or "What did you think when it happened?" after a horrible tragedy, I want to hear someone say, "HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL? HOW WOULD ANYONE FEEL?"

@juliebraden 6 ай бұрын

yeah wat is the point of asking that? Although I think Michel was trying to be respectful but the way she askd seemed a little insincere but I think that was just the sound of her voice asking such a dire question. I think she may hav been uncomfortable bringing it up?

@hopebless4697 6 ай бұрын

So grateful to hear these insights. It’s about time. Human rights are for everyone.

@Antrunu 6 ай бұрын

The professor speaks clearly and with knowledge of the facts. Things don't just happen... We have to know the historical background to understand where the problem comes from and, then, try to change the course towards the abyss. A very clarifying interview✨ Thank you 🙏🏽

@pebblepod30 5 ай бұрын

But knowing history and learning from it is totally different to using it as an excuse for terrorism & islamic conquest over peace (Hamas goals). And does occupation breed violence, or violence breeds occupation? And Jews & Arabs both had their own state, it was arabs that rejected the UN deal, not the Jews. the Jews just kept on being attacked and they kept on winning defensive wars. Also, the only reason Palestinians can't be free today is because of security: Hamas is intermingled with them and a terrorist threat to Isrealis. I have heard old Palestinians report life was good in Israel before terrorism became the strategy. Every other country on earth was also occupied at some point, and without islamic inspiration + terrorism people learnt to share and get along. Muslim Arab Israelis don't have this problem, because they are not a terrorist threat to israelis. How can you expect Palestinians to have freedom of movement, when them getting close to Jews is a terrorist threat? That is why Palestinains used to be very free, before terrorism was used as a strategy.

@pebblepod30 5 ай бұрын

I also don't feel owning my homeland is a right, esp not if i am a security threat. I myself don't live in my homeland and i am fine, but it would be nice. Not a reason for terrorism & islamic conquest.

@buzzukfiftythree 7 ай бұрын

“Any civilian death is a moral tragedy”. Never a truer word was spoken. If you deliberately set out to kill civilians then that makes you either a murderer or a terrorist in my eyes.

@davidboskett5581 6 ай бұрын

I would add any death is a tragedy and civilians are not free from guilt just because they dont put on a uniform

@neilcollis7720 6 ай бұрын

Hiroshima, Nagasaki eg.

@ruslankbr5243 6 ай бұрын

Western hypocrites can say we don’t kill deliberately but as a result they kill occasionally more than terrorists kill deliberately

@audreyheart2180 6 ай бұрын

👍🏽 Amos 3:10 “My people have forgotten how to do right,” says the Lord. “Their fortresses are filled with wealth taken by theft and violence. so you believe the air gliders and pickup trucks penetrated the second most guarded and watched airspace and “border” on the planet? Cool so you believe it’s okay for an anti-Arab, power-hungry, highly unpopular leader, (as of Oct. 6, 2023), to continue the authorization of the stealing of the land, dignity, lives, (including babies), & freedom of two million people for 75 years plus 17, for his own people’s advantage; you believe it’s okay for this unpopular leader to authorize his military to bomb civilian buildings, mosques, & hospitals, so as to put down the “evil government” of another people - whose houses & lands they’ve stolen, a people they’ve been bombing & gunning down - for 75 years plus 17 - for not being one of “them”, for shouting/ protesting for freedom, for throwing rocks at them, & for praying in their mosque? Cool so you believe it’s okay for the scarce & dirty water supply of a people; be cut off by another group of people, who is light years ahead of the rest of the globe in its 90% wastewater reuse and desalination for its potable water supply? Cool Now nobody dare call out this peoples’ godless & apartheid acts - lest they label us: “anti-Semites.” Nyah-yah-yah... Hypocrisy, Apartheid, and Violence against Orphans & Widows. Only a remnant shall remain

@malubasic2267 6 ай бұрын

The Holocaust

@jtempleton1465 7 ай бұрын

Thank you to your guest for sharing his expertise and knowledge. I appreciate his illuminating our understanding of the plight of the Palestinians. 🙏

@RaffaellaIT 7 ай бұрын

All politicians ONLY think about the next election: now this is so evident, everywhere in the world! And this is a tragedy for every citizen of the world.

@MagdiNonDuality 7 ай бұрын

Very well-informed and well-spoken historian. Thanks

@lakshmp4530 7 ай бұрын

Professor Khaled, please keep speaking out. Your clear replies to the usual narrative, which is deadly, is much needed.

@patriciam.o.6450 7 ай бұрын

Rashid Khaled you are so absolutely right! So much ignorance in this world…

@revolutionishere 7 ай бұрын

It makes me sick.

@awesomecraftstudio 6 ай бұрын

Honestly what he is saying is just common sense.

@lizannewhitlow1085 6 ай бұрын

Ignorance is reaching critical mass.

@donnavorce8856 6 ай бұрын

At this point, anyone who doesn't understand what's going on is WILLFULLY IGNORANT.

@gnweiss 6 ай бұрын

And Hate And Terrorism that Islamists love to wallow in

@marthfrez8468 7 ай бұрын

thank you for this interview. Sadly, I wonder who in a position of power will listen to Mr. Khalidi since what he has said, has been said by so many before.

@Aan_allein 7 ай бұрын

are you an evangelical?

@marthfrez8468 6 ай бұрын

@@Aan_allein no

@TheSvRoma 6 ай бұрын

Fact check everything he says. Rashid is liang to you, hoping you will never check his words

@Woosaidthat 6 ай бұрын

@@JohnDoe-hh7eopffft 😅- because the Zionists idea was trying to take root and the Arabs didn’t want a massive influx of aliens from Europe on their lands? The 1920 riot where 5 Jews and 4 Arabs died? What equivalence are you trying to draw?

@audreyheart2180 6 ай бұрын

@nicki66 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the interview. I appreciate the context around what happened in Gaza. I found that the interview tone and questions were a little slanted but Prof. Khalid I was successful in getting his point across in a measured and factual way.

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

He has failed to discuss Islamists and Jihadism. Failed to mention that the chief instigator of the Arab-Israeli conflict 1920-1960 was the supreme Islamic leader Mohamad Amin Al Husseini. Izz A Din A Qassam brigade of Hamas is called after a Jihadist born in Syria who moved to Haifa to preach Islam and organized Jihadist gang in the 1930. He skipped Islamic radicalization of the whole Arab world in recent decades. Spoke like an advocate lawyer not like a historian.

@megantaylor4189 6 ай бұрын

Yes he didn't answer her question about Saudi Arabia. It's so easy to blame the US. @@ef2718

@lefty2460 7 ай бұрын

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

@marymccluer1630 7 ай бұрын

I want this for a bumper sticker. Good one!

@lefty2460 6 ай бұрын

@@Azizullah13579 No, it doesn’t end there.

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

A blind Jihadist can not aim at dancers in a party.

@lefty2460 6 ай бұрын

@@Azizullah13579 Revenge has no end.

@jensterooniam 6 ай бұрын

Thank-you Rashid. I am so grateful for your work, along with Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomski. Thank-you for speaking to truth.

@sassysls1851 7 ай бұрын

Great interview! Kudos to Michel and a huge thank you to Prof Khalidi!

@barrycrooks1856 7 ай бұрын

Joe Biden should meet and hear this man to get a broader understanding of what needs to happen before there can be lasting peace and justice in Israel/Palestine.

@kevinjenner9502 6 ай бұрын

The US has blocked over 53 UN resolutions condemning Israeli actions and behavior.

@mucefitadonelly9457 6 ай бұрын

Joe Biden will never sorry Gaza, they are full of terrorists plus Israel is the last bastion standing amidst a sea of deranged Muslims in the region.

@rodintremboy6459 6 ай бұрын

@@JohnDoe-hh7eoits not just one or the other. its a vicioius cycle that is hard to break but Israel with the push of the west bears the responsibility of that task. Palestinians have no power themselves to tackle it.

@Star-kq2cq 6 ай бұрын

The fact is that he knows, but everything in America is politically driven. Saying the right thing can put you out of office.

@Star-kq2cq 6 ай бұрын

@JohnDoe-hh7eo Present time now, can you live with someone forcefully moving in your house and controlling when your light and water go on. Let's keep it simple, invassion and occupation is the root cause of every war.

@MV-ew6ty 6 ай бұрын

Beautiful video. Beautiful interview. The wisdom and balance of professor Dr Khalidi is priceless. Thank you for the eloquent delivery and exchange. We need more of this and to be educated. 🙏🏻We study history in the hopes to fix and not repeat never repeat the horrid historical events. God speed peace.

@ElateYourState 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Dr. Rashid, voice of reason

@j.dunlop8295 7 ай бұрын

It's terribly ironic, Israel creating one giant concentration camp, called Gaza? 🙏4✌️

@marymccluer1630 7 ай бұрын

This historian is brilliant and the historical context he offers provides so much clarity. Thank you!

@zbaby82 7 ай бұрын

He didn't mention mention that the Palestinians have attacked Israel multiple times and lost. And it's their own fault where they find themselves.

@MyUniqueVibe 7 ай бұрын

@@zbaby82 isn’t that what people who abuse their spouses always say. “Why are you making me hurt you?” & “You’re ancestors hurt mine so I’m gonna hurt you!”

@RobPires 7 ай бұрын

@@zbaby82He also didn't mention Palestinians didn't create a state in Europe. It was the Europeans who created a state in Palestine.

@dbcooper3088 6 ай бұрын

@@RobPires No matter how many times a lie is repeated, it never becomes true. Zionism (the national movement of the Jews to return to their homeland) was started as a political movement in 1881. Before then, Jews prayed for their return to Zion/The Promised Land (for the divine promise see Genesis 15:13-21 [esp. 18-21], 17:8, Exodus 13:5, Numbers 33:53-54, 34:2ff[borders]). Europe did NOT create a Jewish State in "Palestine". The Balfour Declaration (1917) only expressed British support for a "Jewish Homeland". It was only after WW1, was Palestine created--the name the British gave to the area of today's Jordan and Israel. In 1921, 80% of Palestine was given to Abdullah to establish the Emirate of Trans-Jordan. The other 20% became The British Mandate region (in which a Jewish and Arab Agency were established to prepare the respective groups to assume sovereignty). In 1947 the UN created a partition plan for "Palestine". The Jews accepted it, the Arabs rejected it and upon the declaration of the creation of Israel, the surrounding Arab countries launched a war. They weren't successful in completely destroying Israel and in the ensuing 75 wars have launched other wars. Lastly, please read the Charter of Hamas to see just how peace-loving they are. The PLO revised its Charter but they're also uninterested in coming to terms with (the State of) Israel. Prof Khalid can speak as softly as he wishes, he's still not truly interested in being honest.

@RobPires 6 ай бұрын

@@dbcooper3088 8 million Jews in USA today proved me what you just said was nonsensical. They are Americans. Their homeland is America. They don't look like they have been praying to 'return' to Palestine all their life. Who are you kidding.

@ilanapregen6010 7 ай бұрын

love what you did here, michel, asking the questions that most everyday people without knowledge of the situation ask out loud or in their minds.

@mlcarey1000 6 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. I need more like this to understand the intricacies of the past to begin to grasp todays level of hate. Thank you. Hurt people, hurt people

@davidchou236 6 ай бұрын

I highly recommend the video to "Bassem Yousef delivers history masterclass in second Piers Morgan interview" for an erudite, anti-Zionist perspective

@sbaumgartner9848 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Rashid Khalid, I can feel your pain. Michel, I always enjoy listening to you talk with guests.

@sofe821 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for letting Mr Khalidi speak! All the mainstream news is being so insufferable and not allowing the Palestinian representatives speak freely, including the BBC and Piers Morgan.

@artemisiaby 7 ай бұрын

He should be called to be part of a group of people designated to find a solution to this.

@leesweather9894 6 ай бұрын

Excellent and fact driven piece. Impressive.

@noheroespublishing1907 7 ай бұрын

Norman Finkelstein's convention with Chris Hedges was an eye opening, and very insightful on the topic. Sober and reflective, but realist, and correct in his analysis.

@karenhester6174 7 ай бұрын

Excellent interview and wish many thousands more would listen to this

@bilkisjutha2462 6 ай бұрын

Great viewpoints and we need more of this.

@kennethquintini658 7 ай бұрын

What is concerning is the war crimes against innocent civilians and in the macro lens the widening of the violence by other countries taking sides.☮️☮️☮️

@Gee-xb7rt 6 ай бұрын

Israel's war crimes go unpunished, until they are punished they just see that as more right to run death camps and intermittently bomb them. Israel has dehumanized Palestinians just like Germans dehumanized Jews. Jung calls this "mass psychoses" and there is seldom recovery, do you think Netanyahu cares he kills Palestinians? No, he sees it as an efficient way to steal more land. Biden has no problem sharing a stage with a genocidal maniac, what does that say?

@therrydicule 7 ай бұрын

Violence always bred violence. The lesson of that conflict is basic, that a kindergarten student can understand it... Israel needs to do things differently. Palestine needs to do things differently. Hamas needs to do things very differently. We see it in how it repeats itself.

@shortfattoad7317 7 ай бұрын

The US needs to STOP fuelling the wars around the globe.

@rbrookeb 7 ай бұрын

Palestinians don’t show any capacity (or desire) to coexist… Israel on the other hand, does.

@Jouantiese 7 ай бұрын

Indeed

@gnlout7403 7 ай бұрын

read the hamas charter

@RobPires 7 ай бұрын

@@gnlout7403People should look at the map since 1948. It is clear who is trying to wipe who off the map.

@patriciafaithfull6360 6 ай бұрын

Insightful and compassionate.

@alvaronieto2734 6 ай бұрын

It’s surprising to see Amanpour give a platform to prof. Khalidi after seeing her explicit bias in her interview of Yuval Harari. It was so explicit that she helped him answer her own questions. The explicit bias by this interviewer was still obvious, but I was pleasantly surprised to see a mainstream media outlet allow the other perspective some airtime.

@KellieBourque 6 ай бұрын

Yes I was wondering if the bias was related to donors, or if interviewer was pushing hard in order to get answers to valid questions people have. Great interview though.

@stephanieking4444 6 ай бұрын

There is nothing like a context analysis by a historian. Thank you Professor Khalidi. And thank you interviewer for not interrupting.

@carolinehanna1035 6 ай бұрын

Beautiful Interview Professor Rashid!👏

@parvinbehboodi529 7 ай бұрын

Great reporting, thank you. It’s a breath of fresh are to hear any true and honest reporting from any western Medea.

@rebecasequeira8306 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Dr.,Khalidi trying to get the reporter to understand how hard is for you having your family in Palestine, and you are explaining the reason this is getting worst because of the bad and ignoring the State of Palestine to live as HUMAN BEINGS AND NOT AS ANOTHER CATEGORI OF PEOPLE..GOD BLESS

@diegooland1261 7 ай бұрын

Wow, very good. I'm thankful to live in an age where this sort of information is freely available.

@lancehill9971 7 ай бұрын

He's right about a lot of things

@ChrisKazi-ut7vs 6 ай бұрын

Thanks MR Rashid for an excellent submission. Your clarification about the situation is very compelling. Most of the Western Media is mostly biased in their reporting. I wish they could be fair and balanced in their reporting.

@BurroGirl 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this interview.

@sheemakarp6424 6 ай бұрын

He answered her remarks about Peace Proposals very clearly, exposing their intention to maintain the occupation of Palestinian land. Also, he responded very well to her excusing of US “attempts.” As well, he addressed her downplaying of disparity in the numbers of deaths. State terrorism is never mentioned in mainstream western. media

@leacowley6081 7 ай бұрын

Love n respect to this wonderful human. Love his work n analysis on the past n present. So makes sense. End the occupation.

@rosemarysantana8758 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the interview. From Brasil. Too much pain.

@rflatley8029 6 ай бұрын

thank you so much Vermont is listening. I recommend a movie called, "Born in Gaza". I am deeply sad for us all, there are real consequences for killing civilians, for killing children and condemning them to a life without hope

@har8397 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for finally posting something more balanced...

@api644 6 ай бұрын

Thanks you for letting Palestinians explain their perspective, understanding the root causes of the conflict is necessary if we want to one day achieve a lasting peace, thanks you Rashid Khalidi

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

This conflict was born when Mohamad failed to convince Jews in Medinah to take him as a leader.

@kasondaleigh 6 ай бұрын

Great interview! Loved the energetic back and forth and the solemnity when discussing the human cost. 👍👍

@hm5142 6 ай бұрын

As Michele says, the big issue in the Israel/Palestinian conflict is who gets to say when history starts. That said, the Hamas attack was outrageous and was designed to elicit the most extreme response from Israel, presumably for Hamas's political reasons. I have no idea what can be done. If a country had done this to the US, I am pretty sure that we would totally destroy it if we had the means. I am certain that Hamas would do the same. There is no morality anywhere.

@karenmorris674 7 ай бұрын

The past is prologue.The long shadows of both the Nakba and the Holocaust are very much a presence today. Long standing issues have been simmering for decade and by all accounts have been never adequately addressed . Trauma begets trauma, which often is expressed as violence. And until each side is able to acknowledge that they have done things that have harmed/wronged the other, and/or to acknowledge the negative impacts their actions have had on/for the other side, any efforts to create lasting peace will not get far.

@deborahedelman2659 7 ай бұрын

Well said Karen!

@jacqdanieles 7 ай бұрын

When 1 side is coddled by a superpower regardless of their actions, there's hardly an incentive to seek peace or compromise. This conflict could have been put to rest decades ago if the US & UK had put extreme pressure on both sides to accept terms. It was they who imposed the creation of Israel onto the Arab population. Likewise, they could have forced a peace deal.

@Jouantiese 7 ай бұрын

Nonsense. Only one side is physically, politically and socially divided into an undemocratic and endemically corrupt entity - and a genocidal, jihadist terror base. Israelis can and will vote Bibi out - they've done so before, as they've offered multiple peace deals, their proposals met with terror from Arafat, or rejection without counter from the PA. FY I it was the UN that ' imposed the creation of Israel onto the Arab population ' - and justifiably so - the same way they tried to impose a Palestinian on the Jewish population.

@Jouantiese 7 ай бұрын

*Palestinian state

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

@@jacqdanieles The biggest superpower is the power of oil and gas held strong by Arab Islamic countries, Qatar the sponsor of Hamas controls 21% of global LNG and goes without shade of criticism, it also sponsors media channels that are marketing Islamism, and don't down play the power of 1.5 billion Muslims , 58 members of the organization of Islamic countries, league of Arab countries that funded and founded the first army to invade and engage in war in 1947, and 450 million Arabs, it is not a Palestinian Israeli conflict (No Arab called himself a Palestinian in 1948 BTW), It is a majority vs. minority conflict. The region's Arab Islamic majority cannot accept the existence of an independent state of a minority, be it of Maronites, Assyrians, Druze or others, especially of Jews. By Arab Islamic culture, if it is not dominated and controlled by an Arab Islamic regime then it is an occupation.

@deborahedelman2659 7 ай бұрын

Interesting snd informative conversation...thanks to you both!!

@redmeta 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant interview! Thank you Mr. Khalidi, as well as the interviewer for asking good questions.

@doddanand 6 ай бұрын

There is no excuse for unprovoked violence. The only time when violence can be excused is when one is defending oneself

@user-aymanzone 7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately violent oppression breeds violent resistance. It's awful for everyone. It's awful for everyone and gets worse when it is not resolved. Just look at what is going on with the West Bank also. Too many decades and no solution. If this region is to move on, this needs to be solved

@gnlout7403 7 ай бұрын

not in this case. have you read the charter of hamas? specifically, the hadith in it?

@davidk2471 6 ай бұрын

I don't know why people manage to ignore the fact that Arab violence started long before any occupation, or the violence around the various countries in the Middle East. 500,000 Syrians killed by Assad, that's because of Israel's violent oppression?

@Justquitthebs 6 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with oppression. It has to do with religion. Almost everywhere in the world where there is war and violence there is religion at the base: Nigeria, Jemen, Syria, Libya, Iran, Soedan (remember Darfur?). The Arab world didn’t care. But now Israel is involved and they all start howling. If there is anything that causes this misery it is the latent hate for Jews.

@PiJees 6 ай бұрын

@@Justquitthebs moreover, the Palestinians didn't care about the masacres in these countries. But like you said; no Jews involved and therefore not interesting.

@gnlout7403 6 ай бұрын

@@Justquitthebs exactly

@karenhousley610 7 ай бұрын

Can't stop crying 🌎✌💜

@michelledatey 6 ай бұрын

Very well done interview. I love Michel Martin!

@name5876 6 ай бұрын

so much truth in his words, violence, taking away the living space, human rights, sovereignty end in rising up inevitably. Imagine those kids who grew up in this... And the double standard of labeling how the parties handle the asymmetric situation is staggering. Without finding the roots there's absolutely zero point in talking about the latest excuses of taking oppression to newer and newer levels...

@Hakeem357 6 ай бұрын

Thank you prof Khalidi for emphasizing that the Palestinians value the life of every human being. Dehumanizing the Palestinians is the cause of these tragic events . It is time for the world to address the Palestinians’ tragedy with seriousness and recognition to the Palestinians’ rights.

@Fox_Zero 6 ай бұрын

The only ones dehumanizing Palestinians are the same palestinians applauding terrorists and praising Allah as they murder and kidnap unarmed civilians. That is not normal humane behavior!

@user-bu5rl5io3l 6 ай бұрын

They deshumanized themselves by raising their children in the Jew-hatred for the last 100 years.

@gnweiss 6 ай бұрын

@North95 6 ай бұрын

How do you then explain their murder of 1400 mostly civilians?

@soltantio 6 ай бұрын

And how do you explain hamas's ongoing use of civilians as human shields? The fact that they went in there in the first place basically turned all the civilians of Gaza into human Shields and they knew that going in

@DEIDREROG 7 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. I did not realize that the US wouldn’t allow elections. 😣 there are protests happening right now within Gaza and innocent people are being killed by the Palestinian Authority (PA). My understanding is that Palestinian people are angry because they are not being protected. I’m sure they’re also angry because of the lack of food and water and the destruction to their homes as well as killed loved ones. My Palestinian friend who’s in the West Bank hates Hamas. Things are very bad there. I feel for him as well as feel for my Jewish friends Bibi and his government are evil. Even my most Zionist friend despises him. Can we get some female politicians to take over? Seriously something major needs to change.

@helenmcinerney1058 7 ай бұрын

People in Gaza being killed by the PA?

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

The USA has pushed for the elections that got Hamas elected.

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

"Can we get some female politicians to take over?" Exactly, start with having women manage Hamas and The Islamic Jihad. BTW A comment I too often read on YT interviews of Palestinians is "The woman are extremer than men.".

@juliebraden 6 ай бұрын

Y did the U.S. hav anything to do w/ whether they had elections? Wat is he talking about? W/out him expanding on this it seems vague & a little hard to believe

@adriamoffatt5821 6 ай бұрын

You're wrong, the Palestinian Authority was violently expelled by Hamas from Gaza 15 years ago. The same was true for the Israeli occupation. It was ungovernable. Hamas has had total control.

@thewhitewitch895 6 ай бұрын

The reporter is trying her best to find something useful to say. Bravo rashid khalidi

@theHamster624 6 ай бұрын

How ironic that Ms. Martin says"don't you think we've already 'noted' the death toll of Palestinians?". Ms. Martin, only in the last sentence, you said "More than 1,200 Israelis were killed and more than 3,000 Palestinians...died"

@babymonalisa 6 ай бұрын

One side were killed, and the other side simply died. This is the disgusting media bias Palestinians face every day. It's so morally repugnant.

@IanRobertDouglas 7 ай бұрын

Though delivered with courtesy, and while the interviewer allowed Khalidi to speak and complete his thoughts, virtually every single question contained an inherent bias alligned to the State of Israel. It’s subtle, but always there, and this more than anything needs to be unpacked and explained.

@juliebraden 6 ай бұрын

I didn't take it as bias. I looked @ Michel's approach as getting his take on common preconceptions that r out in the public on this subject. By asking about the other perspective she gives Professor Khalidii a chance to rebut it & therefore a lot is covered & people won't say it is a one sided interview.

@IanRobertDouglas 6 ай бұрын

@@juliebraden If that were the case, why not establish from the beginning that the questions are explicitly about testing common preconceptions. No such qualification is given. Khalidi is experienced, and a serious scholar in the field. But it's not difficult to feel the weight placed upon him by the line of questioning, which I'm sure he faced a million times, because it's pretty much the base accepted reality in polite circles, because of power and vested interest, and the entire pyramid of meaning and supposed truth that permeates events on and around this issue. You can see it in his face. At any rate, if we cannot discern in detail the biases present here, there's no hope of getting out of the infinite regressive loop of tragedy we see play out again and again.

@motaghia 6 ай бұрын

Wow, nice talk. He should be out there more

@katieconnolly9046 6 ай бұрын

I see many comments stating that Gaza is not occupied and that Israel disengaged in 2005. However, when they disengaged they put a temporary blockage on Gaza followed by an indefinite blockade on Gaza in 2007. The UN, International Committee of the Red Cross, and many human-rights organization continued to consider it occupied as Israel military controls Gaza's borders, airspace, and sea access. Due to the Israeli blockade, Gaza suffers from shortages of water, electricity and medicines. The United Nations, as well as at least 19 human-rights organizations, have urged Israel to lift its siege on Gaza. So they still control the movement of all goods and people.

@SunnyIlha 7 ай бұрын

The shock of this should bring solution that establishes a LASTING PEACE there.

@Bipkhim 7 ай бұрын

Most refreshing and honest interview!

@maestoso47 7 ай бұрын

Hurt people hurt people.

@justinsullivan1285 5 ай бұрын

A great interview. Rashid Kalihdi is one of our finest minds.

@AmanpourandCompany 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in.

@SunnyIlha 7 ай бұрын

I think President Biden errored by giving impression he has this set in stone love for Israel AND Netenyahu. He exonerated himself, fortunately, God willed, by saying clearly that Gaza should be a place that belongs to Gazans and Israel should not be occupying there.

@pedroamieva8812 7 ай бұрын

Sorry to say. But that's BS.

@adamfeerst2575 7 ай бұрын

Biden has never had a love for Netenyahu. That was DJT

@kathyheyne6030 6 ай бұрын

Biden clearly has no love for Netanyahu- but it didn’t stop him giving Israel a blank check

@dianewhalen9721 7 ай бұрын

He speaks the truth👍🙏🏼

@bkm2797 7 ай бұрын

Everything about this never ending hatred on both sides is so incredibly stupid and sad! Two groups (that are related by the way) who can't share, refuse to talk because they are so bitter is just plain wrong! My heart goes out to all the innocents on both sides who want peace.

@stnln2180 7 ай бұрын

Let face it the elephant in the room is Islamic Jihad. I don't recall Jewish, Christian or Buddhist suicide bombers... this animalistic violence is a trademark of Islamic Jihad.

@cutifat 7 ай бұрын

You said it！

@littledorrit6819 7 ай бұрын

Don't forget that one side is the occupier and one side is the occupied. Don't ever forget that. It's not just a both sides thing.

@bkm2797 7 ай бұрын

littledorrit6819 I haven't, and I don't forget who is who in this picture, I also don't for get that all tribes have their good, their bad, and their ugly. Sadly the oppressor here has their bad and their ugly in leadership. I will never blame an entire group because I know this to be true!

@roksana1736 7 ай бұрын

Don't know about you, but If someone threw me out of my own home and treated me like the Nazis treated the Jews and the whole world supported them, I'd hate them too. What Israelis have been doing to Palestinians for over 70 years is abhorrent.

@raziakhan3605 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this great video. 👍

@mallikonduri 6 ай бұрын

As someone far from the Gaza and Israel, I tried to understand the brutality of it all. I was told that you can't see things in insolation, that you need to have context and understand history. I tried. I tried my best to understand context and history. All I saw was claims and counter claims. History and counter-history. I was deluged with a lot of "the truth about (placeholder)". I saw a lot of "what about (placeholder)". The 'context' and the 'history' from the 'experts' left me even more confused. I asked myself 'what is the truth and where do I stand?' a million times. It felt like I was asking a grotesque question - 'who has the least blood on their hands?'. Only one thing was crystal clear... the killing of hapless innocents has to stop NOW. That's where I am at. And I know no better.

@graceverssen5651 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. So important....

@pselvara3355 7 ай бұрын

There are two UN resolutions about an independent Palestinian State based on 1967 boundaries. In seems the reporter is rather comfortable with separate but equal.

@Salaah34 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Rasheed

@francescaviceconti3770 5 ай бұрын

it s heartbreaking to see the distress of the Professor and that distill in his voice...

@kepgardensassociation 7 ай бұрын

She can't say it can see, the atrocious acts of barbary? Events she said. Wow. I wonder what she thinks is atrocious? The mind boggles.

@vinyl12blagger 7 ай бұрын

Hamas currently occupies the Gaza strip. No elections since 2006

@paulsawayer1949 6 ай бұрын

Charlie Rose has several great interviews with Nobel Peace Prize winner and former US President Jimmy Carter on YouYube. Carter worked to get peace in the conflict between the Palestinians and Israel. He brought Arafat and Rabin to Camp David to fashion the Peace Accords. Carter gives an honest assessment of both sides and how the history of mistrust on both sides continued to be a stumbling nlock for lasting Peace. Worth listening to!

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

Carter as an expert in Jihadism LOL

@idawatcher 6 ай бұрын

Well respectably conducted interview...not a single interruption.

@annieshedden1245 7 ай бұрын

more thoughtful talk like this, less pointless victim porn.

@sherrytaha9268 6 ай бұрын

Context is certainly important and has been largely unavailable in western press coverage. Wholehearted agreement that American leadership has failed to tackle the issue in a constructive way and need think beyond the coming election. Periodic bombing of civilians is not the answer; violence does produce violence. Thank you Rashid Khalidi and Michel Martin.

@ef2718 6 ай бұрын

The ancient community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white. *In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs.