Addendum: VPR opener changes to accomodate damage buff and debuffs uptime. Execute another Dreadwinder combo after finishing your Ouroboros to do so.

Quazii with the best viper guide on KZfaq

I've been watching a few guide and breakdown for Viper and so far you're the only one where I understood most on the "why" I need to press those specific button! There is still some hard to understand but I think it will become easier when we can finally play it the 28 ^^

Love this breakdown! Google doc included. It makes it way easier to visualise the job's flow for me.

God I can't wait to play this class, fantastic video Quazii.

This class looks totally dope 🙏 thx for the great rundown

Great vidya! Thanks for the indepth and tooltip infos.

I think one of the cooler things about Viper's weaponskills is how the Devs have created a fast job that can double weave as necessary. One thing that the fast melee jobs have trouble doing is double weaving on a shorter GCD, which is even worse if you have latency issues. So NIN, SAM, MNK all do not like to double weave. As you were describing the weaponskills, I was wondering how they were going to make the "Twin" oGCDs work. So if you look at the tooltips at the end, the skills that proc the "Twin" oGCDs actually have a much longer recast time, much like a BLM's Flare, but with the haste buff, they should drop very naturally down to a normal GCD window, perfect for double weaving.

21:05 when you're talking about potencies.. I imagine any descriptive potency that is incorrect will be fixed for launch. however, as I understand the tooltips you show right now: Hunter's Coil gives Hunter's Venom which increases Twinfang Bite by 50. Twinfang Bite combo potency is 200, and the Hunter's Venom buff gives you an extra 50, for 250 potency. I don't know why they show the potency in this way, but I imagine that it's due to the design of using the buffs to indicate the next step in the rotation. Since most other jobs don't have a combo that provides a buff that increases the next combo action, their potency is just directly related to the combo potency, but because Viper is using an actual buff to denote the next combo action, the buff needed to provide something other than a glowing button. edit: Additionally, the oGCD combo potency denoted on their tooltip is because the *_other_* oGCD also provides the Hunter's Venom (or Swiftskin Venom) buff. So the oGCD that is immediately after its respective GCD is 250 potency, while the 2nd oGCD is 200 potency. Essentially, the GCD gives you an additional buff to the buff, to further encourage you to hit the correct oGCDs in the correct order

Depending on build I guess but isn't it always a gain to damage buff up first then skillspeed 2nd? Much like samurai does in the opener? Yes you fit more gcds with the faster gcd but you miss out on the 10% pot buff for 3 attacks 1 gcd and 2 ogcd?

Is this google doc available as a read only?

I wonder if it would be possible to get enough SkS to actually fit a 3rd Steel Fangs combo in before needing to refresh Dread Fangs debuff. I hope "Fast Viper" will be an optional thing, like SAM. That would be awesome. (Seriously... give more jobs uses for haste than SAM/BLM -_- )

🤔 interesting I am think how’s the DPS gonna be compare to samurai 😅 I’m samurai main just saying Will the job looks complex but when you try it probobly not my be worth a try 🤔 Thank you for info and explain viper mechanic have good days 🍻

my head hurts lol

I can see what they were going for but 3 minutes into explaining this I was already overwhelmed with how complex this class is going to be. I hated managing buffs and debuffs on mnk. I always was anxious about making sure it was up. I didnt have fun with monk until i stopped caring so much about buffs and debuffs. So it's pretty sad that vpr cares so much about keeping up buffs/debuffs. Trying to tell us to just "follow glowing buttons" is a massive reduction imo. Jobs shouldnt require a phd to play. Jobs should be designed simple and fights should be designed to be hard if they want to make the game harder again. Jobs not even out yet and im already hoping for a rework tbh.