Vitpilen 701 vs 701 Enduro - Same engine, who wins?! Plus special guest 🤫

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3 жыл бұрын

Husqvarna Vitpilen 701 vs Husqvarna 701 Enduro - Same engine, who wins?! Plus special guest 🤫
We’ve often wondered that when a manufacturer like Husqvarna place a given engine in various models, how those models then relate to one another in performance. The KTM 690 single cylinder engine is a prime example and is used in no less than 6 current KTM group models.
So, we decided to go to the airfield and have a shake down battle with the Husqvarna Vitpilen 701 and our own Husqvarna 701 Enduro! GAME ON!
Before we get into the results, on paper at least they should be very similar. Both feature the same engine with 75hp and, in fact, our 701 Enduro is approximately 10kg lighter than the Vitpilen. The Enduro also has shorter gearing so we thought this could improve the acceleration even more. Further than this, we had high expectations for the 701 Enduro based on the fact that it annihilated the 95hp BMW F850gs Adventure we had on loan a few months back in roll on 50-80mph performance.
However, as we’ve seen before, ideas, concepts and specification sheets do not tell the whole story and it took us all of about 3 minutes to work out the very clear winner… The Vitpilen…
There is something incredible that Husqvarna have done with the Vitpilen 701 in terms of maximising the performance of the 75hp 690 single engine. The combination of lightweight, ergonomics and the ability of the suspension set up to put every last once of that power directly on the ground is incredible. While the Vitpilen has not got any launch control function, with traction control turned on, the way the bike launches from stationary is incredible; its fast, flat and just very easy to launch consistently fast. On every occasion, we launched the Vitpilen way ahead of the Enduro model, even though we changed rider many times. The Vitpilen also has a good quick-shifter which makes light work of the frequent upshifts.
The 701 Enduro in contrast was much harder to launch, its high seat height, long travel suspension and power delivery all getting in the way of a fast time and felt like racing a giraffe in comparison to a gazelle. In our testing experience, while doing a wheelie on an airfield is a lot of fun, it makes for a really slow acceleration in this sort of thing, especially with this engine that is so prone to launching the front wheel in the air. On the Enduro 701, we opted for road mode. In practice, we have found that off road mode allows a pretty massive wheelie, so road mode was the only option we could consider.
The final figures were as follows:
Vitpilen 701: 0-60mph 3.6 seconds - 0-100mph 8.4 seconds
701 Enduro: 0-60mph 4.5 seconds - 0-100mph 10.4 seconds
In gear performance 40-80mph - Vitpilen won 3rd gear, 4th and 5th were pretty even.
A very interesting experiment in our opinion.
In fact, the Vitpilen 701 was so impressive that we brought another bike into the ring… Enter my Suzuki GSXR750…
Double the power, 150hp of screaming inline 4 linear power, the GSXR750 should have left the Vitpilen for dead… and in a way, it did!
However, like reading the blurb for a novel doesn’t give you the whole story, the numbers and end result for this test don’t exactly paint the full picture here either.
The straight-line performance of the GSXR 750 is incredible, 0-100mph in 5.7secs, 0-140mph in 10 seconds flat. For perspective, that is faster than a £270k 700hp Lamborghini Aventador!
What is amazing though is that in every test we did, the Vitpilen 701 was actually in the lead up to around 70mph! Nothing I did on the GSXR really change that, and while I don’t profess to be a seasoned racer and openly admit that launching a peaking inline 4 is a bit of an art form, even my best launches saw the Vitpilen in the lead at the beginning of every race. That being said the GSXR blitzed it in speeds above 80-90mph, only changing from 2nd into 3rd gear at 120mph and seeing 140mph at the same time the Vitpilen saw just over 100mph.
So to summarise my final thoughts, similar to the products we make, specification sheets don’t tell the whole story. While it is often the case that people make a decision for or against a certain product or motorcycle based on its specification, in reality and in the Vitpilen’s case, the 75hp on offer is more than enough to get a good kick at realistic legal speeds and will pretty much hang with anything out there!
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@jeffreymeyers22
@jeffreymeyers22 3 жыл бұрын
For a true comparo, you should take the Vitpilen off roading along with the Enduro! Lol. Thanks for the video!
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes Jeffrey, that would be very funny... although I fear we might end up with the Vitpilen ready for scrap metal by the end of it! Aaron KNOX
@jensfalk7973
@jensfalk7973 3 жыл бұрын
Not fair, you should have the 701 supermoto instead of the offroad version
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough we don't own the SMCR, but we own the Enduro version. In any case, thats not exactly the point, on paper, they have same power and Enduro is 10kg lighter, so it was a test to see how that translates in reality. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@JensTwn
@JensTwn 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnoxArmour I was mostly thinking of the tires of the "enduro" and both the rubber and wheel size matters. With smaller rims (17" supermoto) you will get faster acceleration (Newton's Second Law) Thanks for replying =)
@mariusv.3097
@mariusv.3097 3 жыл бұрын
@@JensTwn and gearing if its different
@fcalin21
@fcalin21 3 жыл бұрын
@Cole Casey No one cares.
@myname9252
@myname9252 2 жыл бұрын
Fair as in what? Its a fun comparison in which no one is winning money or a sponsorship etc. Just like seeing an F1 car vs a Bugatti. Its not fair right? And comparisons like these help with choosing my next bike in which I want a capable off road and on road machine. This is good to know on how it stacks up. Not fair.lol
@UniversalBikers16
@UniversalBikers16 3 жыл бұрын
Both wicked bikes, love the design of the Vitpilen! That engine is incredible!
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
#wheeliemachine :)
@999silverhk
@999silverhk 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron, we love yr vid, great job! Fans from HK🇭🇰👍👏👏👏💪
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really appreciate the feedback! Aaron KNOX
@bigbroondug
@bigbroondug 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid👍 really like the Vitpilen. Looks amazing and a whole lot of fun. Too close to my current 675 Striple but maybe one day...
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Aaron KNOX
@nocheapdopamine725
@nocheapdopamine725 Ай бұрын
That blue paint is incredible on the vit😍how come ive only seen the silver and white/lime bodies online?
@deyanrs1
@deyanrs1 3 жыл бұрын
What a refreshing video, just a joy to watch
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Aaron KNOX
@kevinruppert7665
@kevinruppert7665 3 жыл бұрын
At 10:40 ...thought they were gonna race against Batman helicopter.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Next time....
@user-wu2lb7mv5f
@user-wu2lb7mv5f 29 күн бұрын
Is the pilen more short people friendly than the 701 enduro? I m 1.70m'ish and the enduro is too high for me and not light enough to make the heighth managable. As theres not any pilen around me I'd like to know^^
@sreeraja1735
@sreeraja1735 3 жыл бұрын
The new look of the viptelin is sooo appealing 🤤🤤🤤. I want to keep it in my bed room and just keep looking at it
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, its a really lovely bike! Aaron KNOX
@nipps223
@nipps223 2 жыл бұрын
I've spent years watching bike reveiws. I've also live with anxiety and a lack of confidence, thus why I have never went for my cbt or Direct access. This 1 bike comparison video has honestly given me the encouragement to get my arse in gear. 2021 is my year 😂🤣💙🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🙄.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck and enjoy it!!
@oddarntnes7079
@oddarntnes7079 Жыл бұрын
did you do it man?
@myname9252
@myname9252 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the enduro still hits 100 in 10.4 seconds. Thats pretty damn quick! Good to know I can pretty much beat anything on dirt and a few un suspecting peeps on road as well 👍🏻
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes the 701 Enduro is a fast bike no doubt and hold onto if not beat most adventure bikes in a straight line. :)
@Thou_Real_Ryan
@Thou_Real_Ryan 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, where can I get the video where you compared the husky 701 vs the bmw f850 ?
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Its actually at the end of this video, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m510gKhj1Ne0ZZc.html Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@dry509
@dry509 Жыл бұрын
What year Vitpilen in this comparison?
@ajoymahato46
@ajoymahato46 3 жыл бұрын
Please review the Triumph Street Triple RS 🏍️🎃😀 superb comparison 👍🎉🔥😀🎃
@29gopikrishnap2
@29gopikrishnap2 3 жыл бұрын
wish the 401s looked like this
@_aakashpandey
@_aakashpandey 3 жыл бұрын
Need that husky dual sport here in India
@bilalchaudhary8268
@bilalchaudhary8268 3 жыл бұрын
Another great review.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bilal!
@krispewkrem3
@krispewkrem3 Жыл бұрын
Just curious how easily you could swap wheels for a supermoto setup? I have a WR250R with 250X wheels I swap on. I have a caliper bracket and that’s all I have to do.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour Жыл бұрын
Yes you can definitely change the wheels for supermoto set up, quite a few companies sell them. But I dont think it will be exactly the same as the 701 supermoto because the suspension is quite different and the SM one is much shorter and the much more biased towards the front end geometry wise. Hope that helps, Aaron KNOX
@drewiediggler1
@drewiediggler1 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Vitpilen and the Supermoto at the same time in 2018. Never tried the Enduro but the Supermoto felt just as quick as the Vit. On the bumpy,twisty roads of North Yorkshire the Supermoto absolutely trounced the Vitpilen. Both great bikes. Love the blue colour of 2020.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Great bikes aren't they!! Yes the Enduro feels very quick and in gear performance is really strong (as strong as the Vitpilen). The Enduro also does the twisty and bumby roads of the Lake District amazingly well! But the way the Vitpilen gets off the line from 0mph is very different and it just sits a lot flatter than the Enduro or SM that have longer travel suspension and is just easier to launch fast. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@drewiediggler1
@drewiediggler1 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnoxArmour The biggest advantage i found was when wheeling the Vitpilen out of the garage. So light and easy to manoeuvre. I once saw 129mph on mine, flat out. On a track obviously 😉
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewiediggler1 Yes, on track, that goes without saying😉!! Think we saw 120ish, but didn't have the full airfield to work on at the time. :)
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
@user-sw2lv3zp6o 3 жыл бұрын
Why the music? I wanted to hear the bikes. A better test would have involved the 701SM instead of the Enduro, but I realise you have an Enduro to compare. I'd like a Vitpilen with risers - like I said last time.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the bikes are in there... but its our style choice to have music.. and yes, like you said, its our own 701 Enduro which we have to compare. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@caspianprince
@caspianprince 3 жыл бұрын
That'd be a Svartpilen then
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
@user-sw2lv3zp6o 3 жыл бұрын
@@caspianprince No because the styling is different and it has a bigger front wheel.
@trooper64428
@trooper64428 Жыл бұрын
When rubber meets the road.
@Bow-to-the-absurd
@Bow-to-the-absurd 3 жыл бұрын
What's the vitpilen like on the wrists?
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Very good actually! Pretty much perfect imo. Thanks Aaron Knox
@darrenbryans8288
@darrenbryans8288 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a vit 401, have a daytona 675r & a gxr 600. On the wrists the vit feels comparable to both super sports. It’s quite a lent fwd committed seating to handle bar position on the vit which I like. I wasn’t quite ready to go from that position to a totally upright like monster or the svartpilen. The 401 is a great little bike, looks great and surprisingly has a fair bit of grunt for a single 373cc, i was very surprised. That’s of course helped by the standard quick shifter. If I can pick a fault with it, the fuel range is a bit underdone, I haven’t ran it to empty because let’s face it, that’d be a pain in the arse getting fuel delivered, but with the distance to empty, pretty sure it would run totally dry by 220ks. I’m still running it in at the moment too so not going over 6500 rpm. But a great bike nonetheless, excellent inclusions and styling for the price
@zrig1
@zrig1 3 жыл бұрын
Did you give both bikes the same gearing? Vitpillen: 15/45 701: 15/46 is what comes stock.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes all standard gearing. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@ThisIsBarcode
@ThisIsBarcode 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up with this Husqvarna content and I’m going to have to go back and get a Svart 701 again!!! Only had it three months and swapped it for an Iron 883 🤷🏻‍♂️
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Well obviously we like it, but its not the only good bike out there... ride what you luv! For me I'm keeping my gsxr 750 as that us what I love! Thanks Aaron Knox
@ThisIsBarcode
@ThisIsBarcode 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnoxArmour I’ve only been riding a year or so, Vitpilen 401 to Svart 701 to Iron. All had their different quirks. Liked the Guzzi V7 Night on a test ride but pretty pricey so I reckon it’ll be a Husky again or Ducati Scrambler Cafe...still need to ride one as they look quite small.
@StevenWooding
@StevenWooding 3 жыл бұрын
Did you swap riders and redo the test?
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Yes loads of times to be sure... same results applied! Thanks 👍
@dropbear9526
@dropbear9526 2 жыл бұрын
Would have made a lot more sense to compare it with a 701SM. I have the 701E and the 701SM. The two are nothing alike.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 2 жыл бұрын
We only own the 701 Enduro so that is what we have to test.
@dropbear9526
@dropbear9526 2 жыл бұрын
@@KnoxArmour Fair enough 😁
@julianweinberger3365
@julianweinberger3365 Жыл бұрын
On my 701 I don't have time for dicing - just wheelie and finished...
@chiboreache
@chiboreache 2 жыл бұрын
6:11 *FIRST MODE - ARE YOU KIDDING !?*
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 2 жыл бұрын
yes because all it does in mode 2 is wheelie!
@ThorgalsWalhalla
@ThorgalsWalhalla 2 жыл бұрын
i think diffrent Rubbers on the Enduro mith have changed some ? :)
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt it, more to do with the whole bike than just the tyres, and the TKC80 are great grip on the road.
@ThorgalsWalhalla
@ThorgalsWalhalla 2 жыл бұрын
@@KnoxArmour mh intresting. I thought you migth lose a lot of grip with acceleration with thouse nobbies. But yeah i guess suspension might play a bigger role? I got the 701 enduro and it s a fun bike! :D i also love the svart and vitpilen just sad they don t do em anymore.. Maybe ktm forbid them.
@kevinandmareeskinner5783
@kevinandmareeskinner5783 3 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of guys could ride the Enduro to its limits on the road let alone dirt. Very capable bike. Interesting results. Would luv to see a test out on the track between a Vitpilen and Sumo. Great video.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yeah its a great bike, love it! Aaron KNOX
@hangingnutsjimmy88
@hangingnutsjimmy88 2 жыл бұрын
give it a retune i bet it will match!
@Bow-to-the-absurd
@Bow-to-the-absurd 3 жыл бұрын
No smcr?
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
No, we only own the Enduro version. Thanks Aaron Knox
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 2 жыл бұрын
Vitpilen "pure road" ...apart for the seat, you could ride a VP the length of the Americas... everything is available, sump guard,centre stand, crash bars ,aux tank,luggage...
@MatNewtonTrio
@MatNewtonTrio 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the 750..😀
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, me too and Im keeping it! Aaron KNOX
@MatNewtonTrio
@MatNewtonTrio 3 жыл бұрын
Knox Armour best middleweight ever made and more than enough performance for road/track.
@orlandoberry4031
@orlandoberry4031 3 жыл бұрын
The Vitpilen has an Akraprovic which with an open air box can give an extra 10hp from idle to 6k rpm.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
This was a standard press bike and is unmodified. The akra slip on doesn't really make any difference. Thanks Aaron Knox
@myname9252
@myname9252 2 жыл бұрын
Got any dyno charts to prove that?
@gianlucasenes2264
@gianlucasenes2264 3 жыл бұрын
The point of this comparison?
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
The opening line was, "We’ve often wondered that when a manufacturer like Husqvarna place a given engine in various models, how those models then relate to one another in performance." We had a vitpilen for a couple of weeks and we brought along our own 701 Enduro to see how they compare in reality vs on paper spec.. its pretty straight forward and self explanatory. 🤷‍♂️ Aaron KNOX
@ridzuanvirusces3005
@ridzuanvirusces3005 3 жыл бұрын
how about put duke 690 to complete the duel.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
that would be fun, but we had the bikes we had...
@MatNewtonTrio
@MatNewtonTrio 3 жыл бұрын
The Enduro is a great machine.
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Yes its awesome, love it! Aaron KNOX
@richardclayton1892
@richardclayton1892 3 жыл бұрын
Vitpilen is ace. Ignore top trumps on bikes. For a few hours on uk roads i can’t think of a better bike. 👊
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Agree its great! :)
@banjo_dk8216
@banjo_dk8216 3 жыл бұрын
Why on UK roads? Why not ‘on roads’?
@revcanon5744
@revcanon5744 2 жыл бұрын
The Vitpilen is such a beautiful bike but it's so damn small :(
@hangingnutsjimmy88
@hangingnutsjimmy88 2 жыл бұрын
less is more in my book
@yellowoneish
@yellowoneish 3 жыл бұрын
I really love you, but when it comes to the gsxr I think you should work on your acceleration skills and I'm sure you know that. :)
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes launching the gsxr perfectly isn't super easy... but in the run shown I recorded a 5.7 0-100mph and 0-140mph in 10 secs dead which is actually pretty good for a gsxr750. Thanks Aaron Knox
@Checkyoursix77
@Checkyoursix77 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone want a single on a road bike? The 690/701 is the most unreliable engine I ever had.
@MiguelRuiz-up2ls
@MiguelRuiz-up2ls 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear what is wrong with the engine.
@Checkyoursix77
@Checkyoursix77 3 жыл бұрын
Rocker arm bearings, fuel pump, high oil consumption, terrible gearbox. This was under a very short period so I sold the bike, a 690 enduro. I just couldn’t trust it and I used it as an adventure bike for off road travel. The 690/701 have had several major updates since but my friends riding newer 690/701 still have issues with their bikes. Search the internet for more information about the reliability issues. It’s not a Japanese bike that you just fuel and ride.
@James_765
@James_765 3 жыл бұрын
They've allegedly made improvements on the new engine for reliability. Still the bike has quirks, just never look at the gauge and slam that gearbox like it ain't yours and they ride beautifully. If you want no hassle buy a boring Honda. For me it's worth it.
@caspianprince
@caspianprince 3 жыл бұрын
My 2016 690 Duke R has been thrashed happily for the last 18,000 miles in all conditions and the engine is still mint. It does use oil though. Much less so now than it did when new. Reliability of the rest of the bike though... that's another story, involving corroded electronics, total instrument panel failure, fuel tank expansion, and fuel gauge sender failure... but the bike is just so insanely good I just keep fixing it.
@Twistedmetallic
@Twistedmetallic 3 жыл бұрын
My 2016 smc-r have 45 000 km, not a single issues. Never had to adjust valves and rockerarms is like new.
@Trotaracing2588
@Trotaracing2588 3 жыл бұрын
La enduro esta en modo 1
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because in mode 2 (off road) and with TC turned off, the Enduro just wheelies and that makes it much slower... Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@flyingfox7252
@flyingfox7252 3 жыл бұрын
To my mind this is a silly comparison-they may have the same engine but that’s where is starts and finishes. The bikes have totally different gearing and are built for totally different purposes. Nonsense basically
@myname9252
@myname9252 2 жыл бұрын
Tunnel is very narrow and never widens
@TrailSurge
@TrailSurge 3 жыл бұрын
Better exhaust, better tyres, better gearing, a design made to fit the road. take the super moto slap a akra on it and do the dungle mods the supermoto will burn that nakey bike
@KnoxArmour
@KnoxArmour 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt the supermoto would beat the Vitpilen in 0-100mph...
@banjo_dk8216
@banjo_dk8216 3 жыл бұрын
Vitpilen beats your bike
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