Just stick to your fold 4😂

Mine as well. I was stunned as it was legit the best feature of the vivo and why I was so excited with it. Seeing the huawei mate x3 with its size and a periscope lens (and the camera quality) had me guessing why vivo removed it. Also because of that Im not sure if it is a keeper. To me (just off my impression) my x fold is a bit better for my use cases. I think for Samsung users it is no question. It’s a better phone than the fold (much like last year). But is it the best foldable? Last year despite the bulk I would say yes (again based on my use case). This year? Tough to say. I do like the android 13 dock is integrated and I hope it comes to the older vivo x fold. I also like the battery life too. But no periscope zoom and heft? And for those who had the root exploit on the first version? It’s a tough sell. Xiaomi if they have a periscope zoom (it’s already root capable) could be a good compromise. The pixel fold may be too short for me because I like a taller foot print. Who knows really. One thing for certain. If America wasn’t playing games with Huawei I would easily get that phone without any questions. If the discussion is specs it will probably have the best hardware.

Exactly.

@@malcolmjwilliams3521 Can I install a custom ROM on the Huawei Mate X3 or the Vivo X Fold+??

@@PSYCHOV3N0M GSI ROMs do not work well on the vivo x fold. There are screen glitching issues. But heck android 12 wouldn’t even load on the vivo x fold. That being said Huawei you cannot boot loader unlock. Plain and simple. Xiaomi may be promising because it will have a periscope zoom with the same foot print. My hope is that it also has flex mode (as the previous mix fold 2 did not). If it does I see no reason to get the vivo x fold 2. Judging by the leaks of the mix fold 3 it could be a great compromise. Plus the rumor that it will use the 13 ultra camera set up has me geeked

The Google and 5G issue isn't a shortcoming on Huawei's end though. I understand that makes the phone unusable for alot of people but I'm not knocking points off Huawei because of US gov playing political games. Huawei showed what can be possible with hardware now it's up to Samsung Xiaomi Vivo Oppo to do it

@@bensgadgetreviews Well, I am not against Huawei, I am currently in China and it is quite impossible to get that Huawei mate X3 here... Coming from a mate 30 pro, I am hesitating between those two phones. Would have been great to have this xfold 2 a bit thinner and with periscope camera... Waiting for your camera review between those two phones !

Coming down in price by how much is the real question... 🤔

THIS!!! ☝️☝️☝️

It is impossible to put the same sensors as for example the vivo x90 pro plus or the Xiaomi 13 ultra because basically folding smartphones are only on avarege 6mm thick when open, you cannon use the full thickness of the phone when closed obviously. And the main sensor in this vivo is actually pretty good, especially with Zeiss lenses and coating and V2 chip, still no excuse for removing the periscope camera, the phone Beeing slimmer is not an excuse, since che Huawei mate X3 is even thinner and manages ro have a periscope camera. Probably is cost cutting but they could at least give the telephoto camera a 3x zoom...

@@riccardogalli8823 ye I get there are space restrictions of course, totally get that. But I'm pretty sure they can do it. I mean vivo already put a periscope in there on the very first vivo x fold. These companies have much bigger capabitlies than we might think, I'm sure they often choose not to do something purely because of their longer term plans/sustainability reasons or whatever. But ye 3x minimum would have been better at least.

Yeah, for Shure the couldn't put that Imx 1 inch sensor, but for the rest I totally agree with you, I think as a said before they did a bit of cost cutting, keeping in mind that this is on the cheaper side of foldable phone, even if the first x fold was the best foldable for me last year, another thing that they didn't improve with I was hoping for, is the vibration engine, still the tiny round z axis and not an x axis (like the taptic engine on iphone for those who doesn't understand the difference). I know most people doesn't care about this maybe but for me good haptics give a much more premium while using the phone, I don't think it would have cost them more then 5 dollars to put one in...

@@riccardogalli8823 ye absolutely. Cost cutting is always gonna be a factor definitely. And ye I get what you mean, it does give it a distinct feel and you're right, too end phones should have too end haptic too, makes sense! Let's keep our fingers crossed for the x fold 2+ or X Fold 3 😂 curious to see what Xiaomi do with their next foldable, I was impressed with their design aspect of the mix fold 2...but that's about it 😂

I think i just saw something online already in works about to be revealed.

@@YoungWise2011 CAN'T Wait. I love the Xiaomi "Camera First" sentiment.

Thank you so much

@@bensgadgetreviews hello sir,I watched your side by side comparison of the original vivo fold and Samsung and oppo foldable,does the new vivo fold support window mode for 3rd party apps now, honestly I'm leaning towards the vivo due to its faster charging of 120w but if it doesn't have that I'll rather buy a normal slab phone instead of spending 1500 bucks on a foldable that doesn't have any advantage over a normal phone,but I'd appreciate it if you have any recommendations about other Chinese foldable with fast charging (80w and up) and and support window mode or horizontal splitt screen which Samsung offers, unfortunately I'm not interested in Samsung due to its small battery and slow charging, looking forward to hearing from you please, I dont want to spend a lot of money and end up regretting my purchase.

Enjoy the 23w charging 😂

@@DaBlackSmokeMonster enjoy the vertical KZfaq and the huge keyboard not splitted, plus the no (ok google) voice assistant wake up. Plus the no (google feed).

@@rashedali7618 lol was that the best you've got? I don't use ok Google and even if I wanted to you can still press the microphone button and then talk like normal. I never split my keyboard with any fold anyway and I rarely use KZfaq split screen but even if I wanted to there's a chance that could be upgraded in a software update. Charging on the other hand is every single day and laughably slow on the pixel and the pixel isn't even running snapdragon 8 gen 2

@@rashedali7618 lol whut? u can get "ok google", and google feed in basically every android phones. are u a new android user?

@@mr.n476 if you're an idiot who never used chinese phones that are only released there it's your problem😂

Subjective, I think the Z Fold looks better, and I prefer the aspect ratio over a normal slab phone It makes the phone easier to hold and makes it feel compact, I do hope they make it slightly wider but still keep the stretched form factor tho.

​@@deadgoldenheart9560 exactly...that thing vivo is butt ugly with that round camera hump

@@phillippugh2161 I agree, and the Xiaomi too, they all feel cheap.

​@دَمار شَامِلٌ . have you ever held any xiaomi ultra phones? they are from "feels cheap"

@@menantumakawak I meant the fold, I daily drive the mi 11 ultra.

Don't think it works with at and t. I'm using tmobile

@ben's gadget reviews Okay. What about the xiaomi 13 ultra or the oppo find 6x. If neither of those I might just op for the oneplus 11. Want to get rid of my z fold 4. Oh or maybe I'll wait on the sony xperia 1 v. I love how sony is going in its own lane as far as design and features

THIS!!! ☝️☝️☝️ Getting tired of these stupid ass backwards decisions that smartphone manufacturers make. It's pathetic.

You can buy Vivo X Fold 2+ when it launches later this year

Exactly my situation, I was devestated when I knew they removed the periscope lens and IR blaster. I'm sticking to my X Fold +

Yeah stupid move. I have the Vivo X Fold for 1 year now. Will upgrade to the Plus when i find it for a nice price. Going to skip the Vivo X Fold 2.

For push notifications you have to lock the app in background and turn off battery optimization. It is annoying yes

They have shipped to US and Thailand multiple times to other KZfaqrs without issues. I am not sure about Br I’m sorry

I haven't tested it thoroughly yet but I think the vivo x90 rpo plus may still be my overall pick for best camera

@ben's gadget reviews Many thanks for your reply and appreciate it very much. Keep up the great work 👍

Yes it matters. The Huawei mate x3 and Xiaomi mix fold 2 feel light enought that it feels like a normal phone. Vivo and Samsung fold 4 still feel clearly like a foldable

@@bensgadgetreviews ah oh okay. I do feel like getting one time to time, but the price. But, so far Phantom V Fold seems appealing!

I think you should go for xiaomi mix fold 2 or Galaxy z fold 4. The former has best hardware (excluding the mate x3) and latter has most polished software

Thank you!

U can do with China apps. Moat westene apps don't support

ah, thats a shame :(

It does. OriginOS has a private space

Facebook.com/trinityelectronic

I think if you like vivos software go with x fold 2

How about in terms of camera and form factor?

My Mix Fold 2 still peeforms fine. I doubt thinner foldables are more fragile

@@bensgadgetreviews thanks just curious. I've only heard about issues with the Fold 4.

Don't hold your breath. MAYBE in 2024.

@@PSYCHOV3N0M exactly 😂 BIG maybe

No but installing is easy

@@bensgadgetreviews does it have google services like does gmail and apps that work on Samsung phones work on it or will they have a global version

Hi,yeah I think it doesn't bring many upgrades over the first one! I think Xiaomi mix fold 2 is a better buy or wait for Xiaomi mix fold 3 or Samsung fold 5

It doesn't have 5g module purely because of bullshit US gov politics, you really think Huawei couldn't have put a 5g chip in there? A chip wouldn't weigh more than 2gram. The mate x3 is 30g lighter

That's what she said..... 🍆

I meant feel same as fold 4 in thickness. Also, as Mr Mobile also said, the Mix fold 2 feels lighter than Fold 4 due to weight being more distributed

Pls wait a few mins