vivo X80 Pro: Phone vs Camera SHOWDOWN! (3 of 3)

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vivo X80 Pro Camera SHOWDOWN! Smartphone vs mirrorless camera! I'm pitting this vivo against the pro camera I use to get my work done! Let's REALLY dig into the math and show some samples! The X80 Pro is one of the most impressive phone camera solutions of the year, but how does it stack up against a Lumix? Part 3 of our series on the vivo camera system!
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@calle4346 2 жыл бұрын

The best camera comparison I've seen in a while

@Slambear 2 жыл бұрын

Loving it Juan! Keep up the intellectual videos the most popular KZfaqrs don’t make.

@med-2014 2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this video! Great Job Juan!!

@1mezion 2 жыл бұрын

I think this single video is the greatest selling point for this phone for people who love playing around with photography on their phones

@TKBay 2 жыл бұрын

Love the video man, keep it up. Such an amazing colab

@WendelTC 2 жыл бұрын

This was a great lesson! Nice work!

@benlister7803 2 жыл бұрын

This video is so much better than I expected. Didn't exoect to learn something new as a techy and camera film student. Really well done for this video!

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

The next generation of film makers are going to start on phones. It's CRAZY to think that we're ALMOST carrying a digital 16mm bolex in our pockets on these premium tier phones. It's been REALLY exciting to watch.

@elvinlawcc 2 жыл бұрын

The best phone camera vs real camera comparison review! Love your sense of humour! Fun watching your channel! Keep up the good work my friend, cheers from Malaysia!

@joisaacs3351 2 жыл бұрын

This is why some of us are never subscribed to most of the tech channels around. You never get to hear or see anything new. It's always, "this is the best camera in any smart phone", based on the "brand name" the phone carries. Love this kind of showdown that brings actual info and proper reasons to the table and always giving credit where it's due without paying much attention to the brand name. Looking forward to the vivo X80 pro Vs Xperia 1iv show down. It just has to come through! Thank you so much

@gdrus 2 жыл бұрын

This is a true review about a phone camera. I like it.

@fads2530 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video.. Thx a lot💜👌

@TheBootruss 2 жыл бұрын

Flawless again Juan, this Vs the 12s ultra is going to be one interesting comparison!

@MathieuTechMoto 2 жыл бұрын

I really like that new style of video !

@iamDanielFitri 2 жыл бұрын

This is the best explanation

@m-zurowski Жыл бұрын

I really dig your style of explaining differences between "cameras" and cameras.

@faizan.gamerz.prince79 2 жыл бұрын

Eagerly waiting

@JeremiahFestus2 2 жыл бұрын

This video is damn impressive! I'm speechless, kudos.

@KobraToldYa 2 жыл бұрын

This was a fun one!

@ingridkollmer6102 2 жыл бұрын

Big Thanks for explaining clearly what I was thinking about yesterday, but couldn't figure out...LOL. Got mine before yesterday and had to get out and give it a try in a pouring rain evening situation.Waterproof! and I am more than impressed with the nighttime performance. Waiting for more of your interesting videos.Is there an ND filter specifically for this phone?

@brandonminiman 2 жыл бұрын

I learned stuff. Thanks JC 🚀

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

😊👍

@kirthliammarc1147 Жыл бұрын

A Big thanks for sharing the number's. More of this on all future launch phone. Thanks

@fakhrymaruti8126 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Watching this video is a fun experiences. It makes me want to tinker around with my phone’s camera even though my phone is not much of a beast. But hey, at least I got to learn new things. Thank you for the info 😘.

@stephenivan3834 2 жыл бұрын

I saw x70pro there. What do you say for it in 2022? Do you like x70pro than ip13promax?

@cheshirecat200302 Жыл бұрын

Just got my vivo X80 Pro last week and am loving this thing to death! 😍

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

Im stuck between the x80pro and the zte axon40ultra

@falk3nn Жыл бұрын

Great series. for printing 24x24 inch would the x80 pro main sensor be acceptable given its size. the megapixel count seems to suit but I don't have much experience with sensor sizes. thanks

@osheadavis 2 жыл бұрын

nicely done.

@marilinpuig8562 2 жыл бұрын

Looks amazing!

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It's REAL good.

@RamlyJer 2 жыл бұрын

Vivo definitely will be on my list!

@thatdude7170 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see this details discussed. It's frustrating to see stuff like Dxo doing rigorous tests but limiting it only to the most basic possible point and shoot usage (omitting stuff as simple as manually activated night mode if I'm not mistaken). Currently, the phone with the craziest aperture equivalent is Honor's Magic4 Ultimate with a 23mm F4.848 main camera. It's a shame it doesn't have a global release. The ZTE Axon 40 Ultra is also interesting for its 35mm equivalent main lens.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Ugh I know. I want to play with one SO BAD.

@competitivemizo 2 жыл бұрын

hello, I purchased vivo because of your review and I am loving it..However ,I have a new found interest in making cinematic video ..do you think I should buy Xperia 1 IV or wait for iPhone 14 pro max

@osheaness 2 жыл бұрын

I was expecting more comparisons...? Informative video nonetheless

@nurulhidayahmy662 Жыл бұрын

This video is so educational for my dumb brain 🤣

@sameermehta5811 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, especially the math,😉

@horaceellis2941 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I buy this phone online Juan?

@miltonadzic6698 2 жыл бұрын

good job juan all the best from serbia bye

@aideyp7333 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the in-depth look into the Vivo X80 Pro. I am still waiting/hoping you do something similar with the Xperia I IV. Then waiting for them both to be released here in the UK. Truly great work as always Juan.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Friday I'm publishing an XPERIA vs vivo camera comparison. Stay tuned.

@aideyp7333 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy awesome. You know that so many of your followers are looking forward to hearing your thoughts on these two cameras masquerading as phones 😉

@jakilahmoulien9070 Жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy can u upload super raw night shots from the vivo at iso50 plz!!! That's so sick. Night mode is dead

@hellsing0999999999 2 жыл бұрын

Man, that's crazy! I've been following you for years, and last year I decided to upgrade my phone just for the camera wasn't worth so I bought a proper camera, the Olympus M10 Mark IV which is a Micro Fourth Thirds sensor format, it just seems logical when moving from a phone to a not so large camera with not so large lenses! It'd be really fun to see some camera-focused videos in the future! Yeah, it wasn't hard to notice how much they lie about the actual aperture size, even with the kit lens at 14mm f3.5 the Bokeh was a lot more pronounced than on my LG V60.

@BrianGlaze 2 жыл бұрын

Amazingly informative! Thanks for the math lol

@Brightsparks1960 2 жыл бұрын

A very useful review that takes a different approach to explain the relavtive merits of conventional cameras with mobiles. For many years I have used mobile and DSLR/Mirrorless (including the G9) and now almost exclusively shoot on my S22U and iPhone pro Max as the 'need' for the G9 becomes less relevant for my style of photography.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Phone cameras jumped in quality and functionality a couple years ago, and a lot of reviewers missed it. My Lumix don't leave my office very often these days...

@kenmastersmaster 2 жыл бұрын

Master class bro So the bigger sensor and lens really only gives some better detail in the day and better low light images? How much more detail are we talking? Something only when pixel peeping? Something that can be measured? Or is a $2400 full frame camera at f5.4 going to give only marginal quality over a $800 smartphone at this point? Also are raws worth shooting if they are 5x bigger images than a jpg but when pixel peeping the quality looks pretty much identical. Maybe more grainy. Is this only so you can edit and save copies without losing data? Lots to think about there...

@Hollaturboi 2 жыл бұрын

Replay Crew. I entered the stream as the names of ur Patreon was scrolling at the end of the video 🤦🏾‍♂️. All these numbers I'm confused lol. But u skooled me a bit

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

You can always watch a second time. Or a third. Or as MANY as you need to get there 😁

@johneduardcarino4142 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review.. Haha No boring so nerdy part

@anonymousrebel6614 2 жыл бұрын

I've had android since galaxy s, recently tried an apple se and though there may be apple fans out there...I've been using it for over a year to give it a shot...not for me! I plan on getting the Note 20...or current model? Still deciding which model note 20 or 22 is best for the money!

@davidc9690 2 жыл бұрын

Is it really worth to pay the price difference for the pro instead of just X80?

@kanglim3551 2 жыл бұрын

How to get the actual focal length of iPhone 12 Pro and x80 Pro?

@bunyaadi 2 жыл бұрын

It was good to see an easily explained version of this. I did watch another one which was more indepth explaining the math to get the numbers on the lenses. The crop factor on mobile phones are creeping bear to aps-c, m43 and type 1.0 sensors.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I honestly didn't believe it at first when I saw the crop was 3.5.

@bunyaadi 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy that sounds about the same as the s21/s22 ultra hm3 sensor although clearly not as well implemented on those devices.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. VERY similar in size. 1/1.3" ish sensors all around. I don't enjoy Sammy processing, but the RAW files off that main camera are STUNNING.

@francisenaje 2 жыл бұрын

Can you compare the camera of the X80 pro to Xiaomi Mi 12s please. Thank you!

@justinbrown471 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Juan, As the most objective tech reviewer on KZfaq, which phone would you recommend for photography (not too bothered about video) between the Xperia 1 IV or this Vivo? I do love the headphone jack, notification light etc. You have used both phones, so I would take your advice as verbatim. Many thanks.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

JUST photography? It still kinda depends on what YOU like on a camera, and how much you'll use the multiple sensors on the back. Things like controls, auto focus, wide and telephoto performance, shouldn't be taken lightly. But if you think you live mostly on the main sensor, I'd lean vivo.

@MrSaeedted 2 жыл бұрын

Can wait to see if Vivo surpasses the G7 in this sequel!

@ceecee130x 2 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you on many fronts. I often lament that my mirrorless prosumer camera lacks the software/chipset that enabled phone cams to advance in great strides in recent years... esp now that sensor size is also catching up (Xiaomi top-ender is rocking a "one-inch" sensor). That said, my 10-year-old DSLR and my 5-year-old mirrorless are likely going to last another 1 to 2 decades (apart from needing eventually replacement batteries), but I'm not sure with current phone designs, when other functional parts of the phone (OS, battery) start to deteriorate, how easy would it be to refresh it to keep for more than 5 years. My ZTE Axon 7 is now only being used to play music, while plugged into a power bank... OS has slowed down so much that really the only thing of value is the DAC/amp. No doubt, I've had my eye on the x70 pro+ and x80 pro, for my next phone. The best camera is indeed the one you brought. My big cameras only come out for work and designated photo outings.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I mean sure, but you mentioned yourself, your camera has a user replaceable battery. A camera is a RIDICULOUSLY simple gadget compared to a radio enabled pocket computer. The point I'm making here is NOT that someone should expect to completely replace a mirrorless with a phone AND expect a phone to last the same length of time as a single mirrorless body. It's to inform the shopping trends, where someone who wants a more photographic look from a phone should be shopping 2-3 year cycles with brands that truly offer those improving camera sensors and processing. Even if you have an old DSLR, you're still going to buy a phone. Folks who care about having a better camera on them at all times should be interested in better phone cameras.

@tareqyounis6472 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I have the vivo x80 pro Indian variant and I have att service, I can't dial out or get calls, yet messaging and 4g is working fine! I can access the internet and send and receive messages! Called att a million times and they couldn't get it to work, any suggestion??

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately no. ATT has become the most restrictive company at present for whitelisting phones on their network.

@tareqyounis6472 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy thats a bummer. I don't understand why they would do such a thing but I guess they want you to buy AT&t branded phones so they can make their margins. Well I guess Tmobile is my next stop I'm seeing that everything but 5g works on TMobile

@VK92KL 2 жыл бұрын

Phenomenal video quality! Also, the lady in the video is gorgeous.

@OlTrev 2 жыл бұрын

Damn Juan, you got winded from changing cameras? Be best my friend, be best. :D

@loonation2185 2 жыл бұрын

damn, imho the vivo has the better cameras than the sony's, though I wanna know your thoughts on it Juan, hoping for a comparison vid.

@ashwinajay1505 2 жыл бұрын

Hello brother! I recently bought a x80 pro, I'm highly interested in astrophotography as hobby.. Pls share a detailed video for mobile photography through phone 🙏 Love❤️ from INDIA 🇮🇳

@nikytamayo 2 жыл бұрын

So happy that we're entering a period where bigger sensors are being normalized. Now that the chip shortage is starting to ease, I hope that next year, I will have the option to replace one of my 1/1.3" phone cameras with a 1" sensor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg!

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I think the next "mainstream" size will be 1/1.3 - 1/1.28. Some premium phones like the Xiaomi will climb up to 1/1.12. And then following that, we'll get some more options properly arriving at 1". Gotta give Sharp SOME competition.

@nikytamayo 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy I was bummed that 1/1.3 got as far down as the $400 range and now they're going back to 1/1.5 and 1/1.7. But yes, with flagships pushing back closer 1" now, more affordable and widespread 1/1.3s should be inbound!

@jd5787 Жыл бұрын

Currently staring at my Canon 1x III and my Nikon D5 while watching this video... Seriously: camera manufacturers would make a huge leap forward if they were opening their software a bit... look at what Magic Lantern brought to old Canon cameras! What the improvements in phone cameras show is that better software would boost he capabilities of all the DSLR and Mirrorless on the market. Things are really getting interesting. Next up: Lumafusion will land on Android devices...

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Loading up magic lantern on my 7D, damn that takes me back.

@loubarelectroplus4795 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, how does it stuck up against the Sony Xperia 1 IV?

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Video tomorrow 😁

@loubarelectroplus4795 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy Awesome, huge Sony fan, and super fan of your content, thanks for the effort and quality content. Algerian FAN.

@HJ786xx Жыл бұрын

Vivo X80 Pro or Oppo Find X5 Pro??

@yum3bro 2 жыл бұрын

realme gt neo 3 global version review please!

@arghadeepsaha8598 2 жыл бұрын

A video for camera nerds, Hardly any videos like this from smartphone reviewers. Awesome... I gotta work out the math though 😂

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Make sure you check my numbers FOR SURE 😁

@johnspathopoulos1432 Жыл бұрын

There is another factor here that is worth mentioning. The sharpness of the lens. Although you are right that in terms of brightness and field of view the two cameras will be the same,I suspect that in their respective wide end the lens of the Panasonic will be sharper than the X80 Pro's. I suspect it I don't know it for a fact cause I possess only the smartphone. So the image will not be exactly the same. Despite the fact that the lens is made of glass in the X80 Pro I believe they will implement more sophisticated glass on the camera which partly justify the price difference. Still a very worthy camera on the X80 Pro.

@seanet1310 Жыл бұрын

Has anyone done the maths compared to stand alone cameras for the next bread of photography focused phones? The Xperia 1V and Mi 13 Ultra?

@abdulghanikhan4413 2 жыл бұрын

this is what I mean when I say I want a dslr to phone comparison

@SibTiger33 2 жыл бұрын

Great camera but the images were just too soft for me ended up taking it back. 😭. And sadly software is really poor. Funtouch os isn't it....

@asianverse7313 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you SO much for this video!!! It took me a WHOLE year to make a decision whether to snatch this Vivo X80 beast, I was contemplating the Vivo X70 Pro+ about a year ago, then this beast came along and, along with some promotions that was going on, I went for it! Super happy to see how far mobile photography have come along!!! I had(and still have) the Oppo Reno 10X Optical Zoom before, I believe it was one of the first mobile phones to sport the 10X Optical Zoom lens combination and kept some quality at the same time. After watching your video I'm feeling even more confident about my purchase, thanks a million!

@floxshuilee1760 2 жыл бұрын

6:58 which on is vivo?

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

You tell me.

@delicrux 2 жыл бұрын

Damn hell of a job i would buy this if it had a aux port im on the fence just waiting for xperia now

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Sigh... For reals though. Sony is the LAST option to still vote with your wallet on a headphone jack.

@javianbrown8627 2 жыл бұрын

Nooo how are you make me wait

@leovice6505 2 жыл бұрын

Funny how you compared the specs but rarely compared the actual pictures. Most scenes have no clear indicator if it's the phone or camera taking it. I wish you added the picture / video comparison, liked the maths break down tho

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Well you tell me. Optically which was the phone and which was the lumix?

@leovice6505 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy You should totally do a blind camera test and show the answers at the end, would be fun .

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

As soon as you tell someone the answers, they make excuses. If you can't tell which is which optically, based on depth of field and focus, then would it matter which you used?

@Athrunwong 2 жыл бұрын

Back in those days, we used to bring those little digital point and shoot cameras. And 1 family only has 1 of those, picture came out alright, the only weak point is the night pictures are horrible. Nowadays even the kids have a phone that can shoot better than the family camera back then… Crazy times if you ask me.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It's kind of amazing. How much improved that point and shoot experience is.

@HSNG10 2 жыл бұрын

My biggest gripe for mobile phone photography and videography is that almost all brands have removed expandable memory slot from their top tier phones. If phones are to function more like cameras, then all the more to bring back expandable storage. I guess back to Sony Xperia.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Sony is the last choice left to vote with your wallet. At the same time we have to protect features like better file management, if we're going to be able to do things like back up easily to external storage.

@cassiothird 2 жыл бұрын

Would you say the x80 pro is a big improvement over the x70 pro+? Just curious since the camera system doesn't seem to have changed much.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no. I think we've got better lens performance around flaring, and the better stabilization on the portrait sensor is appreciated, but otherwise, if you aren't into the new AI processing modes, they are VERY similar. The X70 Pro+ is still a MONSTER performer today.

@madhusudantripathy6154 2 жыл бұрын

Watching on my vivo x80pro iam from India

@keroutkerout5060 2 жыл бұрын

And next, let's make a video about surface duo again

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

That new update though. WOW.

@AM-zq8ro 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Juan I have a new duo 1 sitting in the box unused and I value your opinion, so I too would like to see you do a video mainly based on the update and your recent use, to help me decide whether I should keep it or not. Thanks in advance.

@glsracer 2 жыл бұрын

I wish Vivo phones fully supported T-Mobile in the USA. I find that my OnePlus 9 gets me most of what I want when I'm on the run and don't want to bring a larger camera. I like that you also shoot with Lumix M43 cameras. I use a G9, G95, and GX85 with a variety of fast Lumix, PL, and Olympus glass, and I don't care to move up to FF.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

My G9 is doing me JUST fine 😊

@glsracer 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy no doubt

@asianverse7313 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard for Chinese phones to support full band coverage in the USA I think, with the current trade war going on and stuff....

@glsracer 2 жыл бұрын

@@asianverse7313 not if they use a snapdragon chipset. It's just a matter of having antennas that support the frequencies and getting the device in for certification. It's that last part that is likely the reason. Certification is costly.

@asianverse7313 2 жыл бұрын

@@glsracer I see what you mean, it's all about certification then, isn't it?

@drewl9133 2 жыл бұрын

I've been an lg user for years and years now it's time for new and I don't know what phone to go with please help man. I know you were an lg guy for awhile

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

If you were on V50 or V60, unfortunately there is no ONE phone that can COMPLETELY replace everything a V60 can do. Sony is strong. Vivo is looking real good. Moto is solid. There are some solid options out there, you just have to choose specific features you care about most.

@user-eg8ii9cn6d 2 жыл бұрын

Я перехожу на vivo x80 pro, был lg v50

@michaelcorcoran8768 2 жыл бұрын

You know you could buy this phone a thousand times and still spend less money than trying to get through Diablo immortal!

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

HA!

@1mezion 2 жыл бұрын

I often wonder If Nokia was still the powerhouse today that it once was what kinda cameras we'd have from them.

@SomeGadgetGuy 2 жыл бұрын

No joke. It took us YEARS to catch up to the Lumias...

@1mezion 2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy after looking at this video I went back and looked at a couple of the older videos of the Lumia 1520 and 1020 some of the features those phones had wow just absolutely wow. When we lose players like that (Nokia and LG) I think it's to the detriment of the public, It's companies like those that force others to up their game. few tech reviewers seem to understand this unless it's iPhone or Samsung then you might as well throw it away.