Eh, plenty of effort is done on simple and reliable when the market is demanding it. Just consider how long modern trucks, trains, planes, etc. are designed to go between major maintenance events. It’s really only in the consumer space that we’ve seen an apparent reduction in quality. And even then stuff is so much more reliable. At the same time you mention simplicity in this engine and yet its operation is dependent on microprocessors as it has a FADEC system. If pure simplicity and ability to maintain away from urban areas was truly critical then you’d have a mechanical system. But in reality, modern systems are reliable enough and so much better that it makes them vital for said simplicity and reliability in production systems. As now instead of having a complex mechanism that makes a watch look simple. You now have larger blocks that can simply be replaced in the field, improving reliability and uptime of a system. Reliability and simplicity is one of those things that’s amusingly a lot more complex than we’d like to think. ;)

@@ZaphodHarkonnen As usual, engineering is all about striking a balance. In this case, an advantage is found if you trade off the complexity of a FADEC (largely "do you have a factory to make the chips"), in favor of reducing the complexity of the mechanical systems of the engine itself. As an auto mechanic, I know for a fact that modern computer controlled automatic transmissions are so highly refined that you basically don't even need to change the fluid or filter in them for the life of the vehicle. Compare and contrast that to a fully hydromechanical or even partially electromechanical transmission from the 80's and 90's, which needed regular attention from someone like me. The computer control, along with refinements to the chemistry of the transmission fluid and clutch friction materials, and the metallurgy of the transmission's other components, has resulted in a unit that I am no longer required to disassemble in order to fix it. Instead, if it is bad, I simply replace the whole unit, because if I mess with it internally, like one of those transmissions from the 80's or 90's, it'll just break again in another 50k miles, just like one of those transmissions from the 80's and 90's.

@@44R0Ndin Oh, I'm very familiar with the concept working in IT. I'm from the age range where you learnt how a PC worked because it broke so often and was so unstable you had to know. While now they're so stable and resilient you don't need to know anything under the covers. To the point that Universities are having to teach new students what a hierarchical folder file structure is. Overall it's an improvement and shows how much better we are at doing things. But it's a trade off as fewer people know how to get something working again when it goes wrong.

@@ZaphodHarkonnen Funny you mention that, I've been building my own PC's for over 15 years, so I'm familiar with that too! Windows is still as tempermental and unreliable as ever, unfortunately. But if you're talking tablets and smartphones and the like, you're absolutely right.

@@44R0Ndin Oh, trust me. Windows is rock solid compared to what it used to be. ;)

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Rolls-Royce is obviously a more accomplished establishment but what good is it for Vladimich Poot's regime? It's not like they're going to have access 🤣

Rolls-Royce turbine generator project was scrapped due to insufficient power generation. They have an AE2100 turbofan based generator project.

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V-92S2f V-12 is only 6 years old

Most likely nothing (maybe materials). PD 14 is an axial flow design, this one is a radial flow design

Nothing, they are completely different

The use of turboprops for commercial services is pretty common outside of the US. Just look at how many ATR-72s are still being spewed out. Let alone all the Dash 8s that are still operating.

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Belarus

China

india, the continent of africa, South America. Brics+ 4+ billion people, 150 million in Russia. If Russia occupies at least 5% of the sales markets, then these orders will be enough for several decades ahead =)

70% of the world.

@@Karyabs Thank you Russian troll....

Thanks for the update..from a former airline pilot Wasn't aware diesel had gotten that efficient. Also, the few times it was used in general aviation by the German Thielert company, it ran into financial issues. Got bailed out and bought by the Chinese Communist Party. Not good on many levels. As far as I know, the Austrian company Diamond is the only general aviation company using a diesel today. That said, with choppers the power to weight ratio is even more of an issue than with airplanes ...so, can't see diesel replacing turbines anytime soon in choppers, unless diesel's X% more efficient than a turbine is matched with X% less weight than a turbine.

I think helos need to be spot on in power to weight ratio to be possible to fly on them and get some utility. Piston engines are quite low in power to weight ratio compared to any turbine engine. Turbine engines are advancing at the same pace if not more than piston engines. Jet fuel is almost like diesel in energy,gas is less dense so I do not see any time soon turbine engines being replaced by piston engines in helicopters. Even Hybrid one´s would be hard to justify complexity. That´s why new US helicopters are fixed wing tilt rotor and that why only little helicopters use a piston engine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_A03 This v12 engine is 363 KG for 500 hp vs 136 kg and 650 hp for the VK-650V. Then take account for the extra space the piston engine would need,it would be a challenge to make something useful with that engine for a helicopter. Planes do not have that big of a problem with engine weight if the power meets the plane requirements I think.The cheaper starting price males much more sense.

@@MarcPagan Well.. 1 unit increase every 5-7 years or so, will end us up about here. Sometime in the mid/late 80s the first diesel engine broke 40%. I think it was like 2008 or so the first gasoline engine broke 40% What have mostly happen the last 2 decades or so is that the engine goten a lot lighter and stronger.. Of cause, they are not as strong as a turbine yet. And currently there is no way a diesel engine can replace a turbofan engine. What makes helicopters more suitable is that they typically fly at fairly low altitudes. At 30 000 feet a gas-turbine or turbofan engine a lot more effective, can reach 40% possibly even more. But at 3000 feet, a gas turbine is basically as effective as on the ground. And it have no power advantage over a gasolione or diesel. I would say, we are not quite there yet. But getting closed. The HCCI revolution... while delayed, is probobly around the horizon. HCCI is basically sort of a best of all world combination of diesel and gasoline. But they have proven complicated to produce. HCCI engines are typically more efficient than diesel and more power dense than gasoline. It can run on either fuel. There is currently one production car on the market with HCCI engine, but its predicted that pretty much every diesel on the market will be replaced with HCCI with in 5 years (at least in europe and USA) due to tax and emission standards. Basically, any manufacture that will not produce a HCCI with in 5 years, will neither produce a diesel. This will carry over to aircrafts

​@@MarcPagandelta hawk in the US got type certificate for their 4cylinder DHK180 diesel engine recently. With AV gas going extinct and electric propulsion getting better, diesel would make sense for hybrid configuration considering their high efficiency.

@@josemorenoporras7506 My main point was that the engines was not quite there yet, a 14 year old engine are not there yet for sure. If we look at something that is in cars today, something like TFG would be more in range. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenigsegg_TFG 600hp and 70kg. Of cause, that engine would not be able to work in a helicopter as is, and would probobly need to be derated by 100 or 150hp, and obviusly, its not a diesel. Still derated to 450hp would still give it twice the weight to power of a VK650V, and consider the higher efficiency as well. The main issue with diesel is that when they work at highest performance efficiency is quite low. So a diesel have to be derated even more for aircraft use than a gasoline engine. Now, i was specifically talking about future air-engines. Future engine built on current technology. HCCI engines don´t have the problem with a steeply falling efficiency curve. They are also lighter than diesel engines (that is, lighter to HP, not to volume). Both product you can go out and buy today. Rare but existing. If we take a helicopter as a Bell 206 (well its the one im most familiar with), it have a 316hp engine that is 63kg, That is a lot lighter than most modern cars, but not a lot more powerfull, really if any. The helicopter have a maximum take of weight of 1520kg. If you rebuilt the TFG and derated it to 320hp something like that, that would be pretty much the same weight and power. Then considering a say 300liter fuel load. That is like 240kg just remove 25% of that and you probobly would save the diffrance. We are not quite there yet, but pretty close.

Нам бы не до жиру, нам бы выжить. Русская поговорка. Пройдет десяток лет и тогда можно будет делать мотор для гражданского, конкурентного рынка. Сейчас нам надо иметь свой турбовальный двигатель и все...

So basically you wish well to their revanchist government which is headed by a happy gramps who has totally never told a lie, started a war or stole any of his serf population's money right? What's next? Wishing well to Maduro's regime of Venezuela and North Korean dear leaders?

In this video, the Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS500

Lack of criticisms equals propaganda? Why are you guys attacking sky? He has every right to enjoy the russian aerospace industries. What is more is he has every right to support his nation even in this conflict as it is far from black and white. I'd say your post is propaganda.

Конвертация.

Yes, you are right, because this Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500 engine

Why turbomeca? Most turboshafts engines in this power range use this design. The rr330 on the Robinson r66 also use this design

@@sengwesetogile6054 cause they had this very turbomeca engine on their shelf, it was the original bought for their project.

In fact, this Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500

no, klimov engine is entirely russian, the motor sich engines are ukrainian, but I don't think they make anything now

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You are right because this Russian engine is a copy of the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500

@@user-nf6qg1gv6i It not only a unlicenced copy, more than halv parts were maid in Ukraine. And because of Russian agression Ukraine stoped delivery those parts - all Russian Klimov engine production halted.

The Russian aircraft industry, on the contrary, benefited from the sanctions, since even Russia’s internal needs provided aircraft manufacturing enterprises with orders for many years. If previously Russian companies imported aircraft, now they purchase them from Russian manufacturers. The most striking example of this is the Sukhoi plant, which, due to capacity utilization, practically does not produce the Su-57, since there is simply no space for its production due to orders for other aircraft. In addition, the "West" overestimates its market; The United States and its allies are not the whole world or even half of it. But the rest of the world does not want a Western monopoly on goods and will happily accommodate alternative suppliers.

Very different designs, but same power class engines ! VK-650 & VK-800 have better weight to power ratio

@@svinche2 I don’t see how the design is different. Both have an impeller connected to an HPT, reverser flow combustor, 1 LPT driving the power shaft. The inlet is the same. The GB and accessories are also placed in the same position. Same weight of around 250lbs and power.

@@KinZZi It is development of VK-800V (Bigger derivative) . Conceptualy is simmilar with P&W 207 & Turbomeca Arrius , but have Different diameter of everything, the base of core is way different. And that is what give a advantages in overal performances. P&W 200 series show a way how simple can be the better in many ways., they just follow the path.

@kinZZi lolol you just described the design of most modern turboshaft engines you goof. You clearly have issues with ruskies and are making asinine comments. Might as well say Russia copies others because they use cars and ships and planes.

​@@jamesmandahl444engines are not one of russia's talents. They weren't desperately sourcing stuff from Motor Sich, before they blew it up last year, out of good will or ukrophilia. If they had been able to pull it off domeatically, they would have. This Vk-650, which is ever "almost ready, any sec about to go serial" is just another one of poot's patriotic propaganda bs stories. Touting ECU (something that has been used on even the cheapest western agricultural equipment since 1980's) and 3d printing as some major technical breakthroughs. Just a bs story to keep the vatniks & clueless babushkas happy. Don't hold tour breath waiting for serial production to launch.

PW200 copied from turbine of greek Heron😮

Many turboshaft engines in this range are very similar.

In fact, this Russian engine is copied from the Ukrainian Motor Sich MS-500, and factories in the Soviet Union such as Motor Sich copied engines from American PW

there are no old Ukrainian engines, there are Soviet ones

@@konradkarlovich5801 Soviet? Wth is that? So basically poot's russia sourced most all of it's chopper engines from the USSR. prior to invading Ukies territory in 2014 and losing their produce? Meanwhile the ussr collapsed in 1991. TIL russians can't handle numbers or history 🤣

@@user-qu6qg7sk4v yes, both the Ukrainian AN and the Russian IL are all Soviet aircraft. Russia is the legal successor of the USSR ( especially since it was Russia that paid all Soviet debts for all former Soviet republics, including Ukraine ), Russia bought engines from Ukraine because it was more profitable than setting up its own production . Who knew that Ukraine would follow the path of Russophobic politics and transfer its sovereignty to the West...

​@@konradkarlovich5801 It was Soviet Moscow with it's incompetent/futile government, a broken economic model & wasting the little resources the country had on silly uber expensive prestige/defense projects and propping up communists and dictatorships across the globe that were the reasons for USSR's debts in the first place :D Poot's federation would have long ago set up it's own production (instead of feeding the "banderites") if it was able to - due to lack of human talent, this is thus far beyond rf's capabilities. Ok they've built a shiny mock-up and produced some propaganda clips to boost the population's morale. As far as we know that's the end of it. As for ukie sovereignty - practice shows that those who long since "transfered sovereignty to the West" may have been spot on - if the alternative was to transfer it to a regime of ridiculously corrupt and incompetent bare-chested judoka/hockey player who likes to talk about "резиновой жопе" to school children. Latest nominal $ GDP per capita estimates of some of the traitors who joined the "rotten west" are: Poland - 22400 Lithuania - 28482 Latvia - 25000 Estonia - 31000 meanwhile, Belarus - 7480 Armenia - 8300 rf - 13000 Why would ukies want to be cozy with the latter group of impoverished, corrupt, totalitarian semi-failed states ?

Antonov was Russian, it was moved to Ukraine to promote industrialization. Ukraine has not made any progress since USSR. I challenge someone to name anything. All factories are pre 1991

Forcing others to follow your moral compass. Classy. You are naive and out of touch. This conflict has roots many years back. I remember seeing Kerry and Nuland and others literally walking amongst the maidan protesters. Can you imagine if major chinese politicians were in the midst of a protest to change the government of a nation bordering us? We regime changed Ukraine and were guiding them to ultimately try to take Crimea from Russia so that the black sea would become a nato lake. We ultimately wanted to use Ukraine and other regime changed nations to destabilize and regime change Russia. This war is not black and white. Your ignorant comments help nothing and frankly you are making a fool of yourself.

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​@@jamesmandahl444Yanukovich who was ousted in 2014 was literally a poot's lapdog. No peskov cookies or lavrov taking strolls on maidan but I think we can all agree - west is better than russia in every meaningful way. The nations who have remained poot's lapdogs are dirt poor and underdeveloped. Those who co-opt with the west are a lot less corrupt and filthy rich in comparison.

When Sky will create a video about US bombers you will say that he supports the American military industrial complex

Supporting Russian military industrial complex right now means to being on the right side of history

No such thing anymore sadly, bell outsources every step of manufacturing

Even Boeing outsources. Ex: About 1/3 of the 787 is made in Japan.

So much for the glory days of 100% American made. What a bunch of shit that is.

@@MarcPagan are you serious? What is going on today? They claimed that all their airplanes are 100% American made with American parts and now I’m finding out from you that they’re not. That is disgusting.

Yep. And the Communist Party of China owns the "American" aircraft company Cirrus, and the aircraft engine company Continental. Like to see a law requiring 100% American ownership of anything related to aviation, on U.S. soil. Check out the "Dreamlifter" aircraft, a converted 747 that flies 787 parts from around the world kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLqoequBmL6dl2g.html @@bradolsen8629