Did you ever box after that? Was Larry correct in his assessment?

@aaronmestizo That's a cool story man.

@@Ditka-89 I boxed a bit more whilst in the military.I wasn't the best(I had my wins and losses). I can say this..People do not realize how good pro boxers really are. Even the ones with "bad" records. Many of them have trainined since they were 5-8 years old.

@@aaronmestizo ya it ain’t easy. The stamina required to fight 3 rounds alone is huge. They’re the best athletes on earth

​@@aaronmestizoLarry Holmes was fantastic. Poor guy, he was the one with the curse of having to beat Ali then come up behind him.

You know what... he would sting you with his jab. I grew up watching him.. I can't argue with you. He was overlooked. And he made a great contribution to the game... you're right

Unfortunately he was not marketable .You can be good at a sport but not good enough for "Madison Avenue"

He could have done more to establish himself. He beat Norton in a very tight fight to win the title when most didn’t consider Norton the real champ. He should have rematched the dude and beat him clearly, especially as Ken was quite old already. Holmes had a habit of avoiding rematches with guys that gave him trouble. He fought in an era that was considered weak and yet he avoided a string of tough challenges ( Dokes, Thomas, Page etc). Great fighter no doubt, but the lack of respect he gets is partly his doing.

tlig page and Thomas, were half decent. I forgot he never boxed any of them. RIP Greg Page

Exactly

foreman looking better

They both managed to have very long careers and retire with their health and their money, which was extremely rare in their time.

That's a fact..Holmes will knock you out with a jab!

I agree best jab ever for a heavyweight. Marciano beat some quality fighters. I disagree with the jock strap statement.

Buster had a amazing jab ask Mike Tyson

Alis prime jab was better to me! Quicker.

@@waamiq360 you’re going off looks rather than effect

Rocky, though good for his time would have been beaten badly by Larry Holmes...too big to strong too fast with the jab and great movement.

Rocky is overrated

Bums fought marciano

@@vuelveamehico1181 Like heavy weight champions, light heavy weight champions, all time greats, hall of famers.

He’s mine too

Are you Big John Tate?!?

For good reason. If you put out disrespect it's what you will get back. Would have loved to see the humble Marciano KO this bum and still compliment him after.

fury beats him any day

@@breakneck777 Man, IDK, I just cannot see how Marciano, with his disadvantage in size combined with the aggressive style in which he fought, would’ve had much of a chance against Larry Holmes. Rocky was tenacious, he’d probably have a chance to KO most past champions if he hit them on the chin (possibly excepting the REALLY huge guys like Lennox Lewis-up until now), and Larry could be hit with an overhand right. But Holmes also had AMAZING recuperative powers as well as a great chin...I see Holmes winning by UD or mid-late rd stoppage on cuts.

Yesssss!!!!

Soft spoken tho.

That’s part of the reason why he doesn’t get the respect that he deserves, he’s too outspoken. Nobody would call him a great heavy weight so he called himself one and The media didn’t like it

@@tomlochenour3729 Oh he is definitely one of the all time great heavyweights. Those that know boxing understand that. Those that lack a true understanding of the sweet science don’t recognize his greatness.

@Rough Acres how’s what he said racist 😂 the generation of rocky we’re a bunch of racist chicken shits Who couldn’t handle it that a black guy was better than all of them

I agree. Marciano was 190-200lbs fighting weight. Not big by today's standards, but he knew how to punch. Ali himself said he didn't know if he could beat Marciano in his prime. And that Marciano possibly could have beat him. This was real talk from the greatest heavyweight of all time. A prime Mike Tyson would be a modern Marciano. Very similar styles. In my opinion a prime Tyson is the greatest heavyweight of all time.

@@chelious1973 in your opinion a prime Tyson is the goat? That's funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@ronjones3184 I am not the only one who thinks so. What is funny is that you find it funny when some boxing legends think the same. Shows your lack of knowledge.

There's nothing wrong with speaking the truth! Marciano was the most over reted hype job in the history of boxing. A COMPLETE PHONEY!!! You show me a heavyweight champion who has no losses, and i'll show you a fighter who has fought a lot of nobodies.....Lennox Lewis. And I have researched Marciano's career, and he was spot on. Marciano got the hell out of boxing when Liston came on the scene.

@@Tboy439 Say what you will but Holmes hates Marciano because he shouted in 1985 to everyone that listen that he would beat Marcianos record. Marciano fought the best fighters of his time. By your logic Mayweather ducker fighters? Was overated? Some of Marciano's best wins were against Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, Joe Louis, Roland La Starza, Don Cockell, Ezzard Charles, and Lee Savold. Some were past their primes but Marciano was no spring chicken in some of them either. I wouldn't call them nobodies. Seems your research failed you.

You mean bums

@@vuelveamehico1181Eat another taco and stfu!

Ezzard Charles is a hall of famer and Marciano beat him are you calling the legendary ezzard Charles a bum you sad fucking 🤡

larry holmes was actually meant to beat rocky marciano's record. but larry holmes upset the boxing establishment by saying "rocky marciano couldnt hold his jockstrap. so they gave michael spinks 2 extremely contraversoial wins over larry holmes. alot of people believed larry holmes beat michael spinks twice during their two fights.if larry holmes got the correct decision he would have been 50-0

Man shut tf up, he's still better than the time Ali blamed white people for making him lose to Frazier

Easily???????????? Larry would've beat the breaks off of rocky! Any real boxing fan can tell you that that's one two Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time get it right

Exactly! I watched that fight and anyone who saw it knows Larry was robbed.

Which fight was it?

@@MultiKingvegeta Holmes / Spinx

The second fight was a travesty.

He lost the first fight and won the second.

Second only to joe Louis

@@royaljai5009, but before going off to war. Joe Louis defended the title 21 times in a little over 4 years. More than Holmes did in his 7 years. That record will last forever. Louis was shot was he finished serving the country. But imagine how many more defenses of the title he would've of racked up if he hadn't become inactive? By no means am I knocking Larry's 7 years as champion. But it didn't seem like it was no one on the horizon who was going to upset Joe anytime soon.

Wrong on 2 counts. Joe Luis, and Wladamir Klitschko both held the title longer... But Larry could have probably beat them both in the same night in his prime... Top 5 Heavy weight champ any way you slice it.

Sorry I misspelled Lewis....

One more time .... Louis

Real talk I was kind of disappointed when I saw some of that in a documentary

@@braxtonterry8116 ..... It was disgusting 🤢 And the sad part was 90% of Ali fans followed Ali blindly

Many have spoken out against it, where have you been?

Ali apologized to Joe!

@@eugenenichols3871.... Yeah but sometimes a apology isn’t enough for the damage that was done

Most boxers aren't good speakers cuz they have very little education.

He’s to honest for them

At least Larry Holmes had a gift of Jabs.

u right, but he did have the "gift of jab," so fuck commentate n fights they talk it he lived it... 👇

Larry could talk for sure, it's just the media didn't treat him the way he felt he should be treated so he belittled alot of them. Watch him fighting Ray Mercer, get put into the corner and casually go up to the camera and say "I'm not Tommy Morrison" lol. Great guy, great fighter.

Correct,, rocky had caveman piwer

Marciano would have knocked Holmes ass through the ropes too.

Agree.

Don’t tell me nothing about that overrated rocky marciano he was slow small and wouldn’t even touch non of the greats let’s be honest tyson would destroy him in his sleep so would ali so would foreman joe frazer lennox lewis and so many others

This no cap shit is lame now

@@GOATTOLES been lame.

@@GOATTOLES you cappin

No capp. No capp y’all.

He probably knew you were going to sell it on eBay.

I'd say it and put one in his dome. Fck Holyfield.

Did you hear what eric said???

That fight was so cheated by the judges, on that second fight they took it from him. Holmes won that fight in my book.

He clearly lost the first tho

@@leonchisora4268 I agree.

Carl Williams was robbed blind when he fought Holmes.

@@tlig nope. Holmes won that.

Stupidest comment ever

Did you watch the whole thing? Can’t have.

What he said is true. Marciano gets all this acclaim when he wouldn’t have beat Liston let alone Holmes. People have the nerve to put Dempsey up there too. Which is also hilarious.

Yes that was a really crappy thing to say about Marciano. Seems like Larry lost his focus on keeping his title.

@@danwaka5023 Comparing heavyweight champions from different era's is really pointless. It's done to sell magazines or get "clicks" on a website. Marciano and Dempsey were the BEST of their era as were Holmes and Liston. For the record, I don't think Spinks beat Holmes decisively enough to take his title, but that had nothing to do with Rocky and Larry should NOT have disrespected him or his family. To talk "shit" about a deceased ex-champion when he's NOT even there to speak for himself is BEYOND chicken-shit. To his credit, Larry Holmes did later apologize. Why are you bringing up Sonny Liston? He's a legend, but for his last fight he looked more like Greg Louganis than a Heavyweight Champion.

@@gregorybush3224 Perhaps, I thought Larry Holmes took Michael Spinks too lightly the first time they fought. I still thought he did enough to win, but judging boxing is subjective. The rematch was a JOKE. Larry Holmes was in much better shape and won that fight. The judges showed a clear bias against Larry. It doesn't matter, he's still a legend.

@@jasona9 Yes Larry definitely underestimated Michael Spinks. There was an interview I saw that Spinks did. He said when the fight started, he threw a feint. Larry threw his hands up, closed his eyes, and turned his head. Spinks said at moment he knew he had the fight won. You should never take your eyes off your opponent. Spinks controlled the tempo of the fight.

I agree, I think the first fight Spinks edged it by a round or 2, but Holmes definitely beat Spinks in the rematch. Spinks was no slouch anyway, one of the best light heavyweights of all time a lot of people forget that.

I watched that first Holmes/ Spinks fight. Larry Holmes dominated that fight and was robbed. That is why he said what he said about Marciano after the fight.

One of the most underrated fighters man! It pisses me off how under appreciated he is.... A badass heavyweight 4 real.... A nasty ass destructive jab. He had it all. Shout out to Larry!

Absolutely right,I think finally getting his due for the most part,except for the anal Tyson crazies.2nd greatest heavyweight of all time behind only Joe Louis in my book.A 7.5 year reign as a dominant champion is the stuff of legend

When Holmes-Spinks 1 took place, you had to beat the champion. The fight was too close to award Spinks. At best, the fight was a draw. Holmes won the rematch.

Exactly Tyson not Marciano ! you cant do comparisons Rocky aint Tyson and would never be

Lol, yeah okay. “Correlation does not imply causation.”

marciano would have destroyed this clown

@@yes-qw6om Marciano was a glorified street fighter. Let’s be honest with ourselves. Plus, he had the influence of the mob behind him and fought weak opposition. If you think he would have beat Larry Holmes, you’re delusional.

@@ubuntuiqinisoofuna7852 very weak opposition, yeah joe louis, lastarza, ezzard charles, archie moore, walcott, and the mob just saw him as a role model nothing else

@@yes-qw6om Old fighters past their prime and who accumulated 100’s of fights, in some cases. Rocky Marciano is definitely overrated for his time. If he were Black, he would have been considered mediocre. All I’m asking you is to be real, please.

get past Marciano, that's a joke Marciano would never get in the ring with a Holmes, it would have been a mismatch, Marciano never fought any great fighter ever!!!! To put Marciano on the same page as Holmes is an insult, Marciano is one of the most overrated fighters to ever live

@@TheNYHITTINGACADEMY You’re a funny guy. You should do a little more research on Marciano before you count him out so easily. Go watch what Ali said about him when they filmed their movie and Marciano was 47 years old and 14 years out of the ring. Read about his training regimen. The man used a 300 lb bag. He broke capillaries in people’s arms. He was an absolute nightmare in the later rounds because he simply didn’t slow down. I’m not saying he was a good boxer - he wasn’t. At all. But, he was brutal, dogged, and had more heart and a better chin than anyone to put on the gloves in the last 80 years. He had his face split open and would not let his corner stop the fight. He isn’t my favorite boxer, and I don’t think he could beat a really smart fighter in today’s 12 round matches, but he beat everyone that came at him, and he did it with a determination that few people ever could. And from his matches and footage I don’t think many people could’ve taken a solid hit from him and lasted all that long.

@@icarusfx how do you beat someone that never quits and throws bombs the whole distance? you don't. all the Marciano nay sayers talk thru thier hats.

@@TheNYHITTINGACADEMY where you performing? chapelle needs funny opening acts

@@moss8448 larry does not have marcianos will or chin

Rocky was garbage don't even Put him in the same sentence with Floyd.

Jacky Boi Rocky beat joe u can’t say he was trash

@@michaeltodd8188 Joe was 108 years old

@@jackyboi5409 FOH with that shit........Marciano beat some of the greatest fighters in history. Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Joe Walcott. One of the most brutal punchers ever, and a chin of iron. He would punch Floyd's head off of his fucking shoulders.

@@ct3mae He was 36. He had literally been Champion like a year and half earlier. Not prime, but not that far removed from his prime. Lets not act like he was Muhammad Ali in 1980. On that note, Joe Louis HIMSELF said he wasn't convinced he could beat Rocky even in his prime. He said it hurt "just to bump into him."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If you seriously believe that MARCIANO could have beat Holmes or any other heavyweight of 70s, 80s or 90s you need your brain examined.

Well said

Exactly bro. Dude needs to chill. He’s a legend in his own right. But Marciano is one of the Goats!

We only have one God and trust me Ali respected him and did not idolize him as a God

@@user-gf9zu2ov9l Notice, ParagonRex used a small "g" so it is not necessary to defend the honor of the one true God.

This is true.

Holmes was also knocked out by Mike Tyson. Marciano was the same height as Tyson.

@@AP3x6917 Tyson weighed 220

@@AP3x6917 Mike was heavier, faster, and stronger than Marciano. It was a different era.

Angel Puebla holmes was almost 40 when he fought mike

@VDLS This goes out to everyone. I am in no way comparing Marciano's ability with Tyson's. All I was pointing out was that Marciano was the same height as Tyson, not 5'2'' like Holmes stated in the interview. Stop taking shit out of context, man.

Remember seeing him at his club watching the super bowl in 09 dudes humble than ever

😂😂😂

So you just going to straight up cross the picket line and break the boycott? 🤔

no ceno

Lol ceno here

mean n?

Why you still supporting him smh

Your not a boxing fan are you? The fight ultimately would be a decision or rocky by k.o like they said reason being rocky jaw and chin was legendary he would take hits to deliver a harder hit he just kept coming he never got floored and people were tougher in the industrial era we’ve gotten softer as a society not many are willing to go out on there shield

And don’t get me wrong I love Ali and Holmes and he has the right attitude as an alpha fighter

@@KrayTimes Bull crap!!

@@KrayTimes Rocky Marciano was 5'11, 180 lb and fought similar size opponents. His biggest opponent who wasn't over the hill was Cockell, who was at 6'1 and 205 lb. Ali and Larry Holmes, both 6'3 and weighing between 220 and 235. And they were consideredly faster and stronger than any opponent that Rocky Marciano ever faced. During Ali Holmes era, Marciano would've been a light heavyweight or a cruiserweight

@@bigolbabyhuey Mike Tyson was 5'10 and 200. Beat Holmes.

Why do you think he fought so late in life? He was fighting Butterbean at 50

Biiiiiig chilling

oh damn ray j is going to show up with his own piano ready to sing a ballad to Larry like he did Floyd

but do he have 7 rolls royces outside?

His indoor pool was the shape of a boxing glove! Ive seen it 🤣

Lol ray j moves

Mayweather did beat marcianos record he was talking about overall record but in heavyweight no one has beaten it

@@KD400_ No he didn't. There were people in Floyd's weight classes that won way more than their first 50 straight. You're wrong.

@@jaggerpence8300 Just because others had more than Floyd in those weight classes doesn't discount the fact that Floyd did in fact have more than Rocky

@@jaggerpence8300 oh yh ur right on that but Mayweather beat marcianos record u don't have to be judgemental. R u one of those guys who discredites mayweathers last win because he beat his record

@@vegastjg I wasn't clear apparently. Rocky Marciano has 1 record. It's a heavyweight record. I repeat a heavy weight record. Floyd is not a heavyweight. Rocky has no other record thatFloyd can beat because he's not a heavyweight. The whole 50-0 was made up for People to pay attention. Floyd is a better fighter than Rocky not even close.

For the shit he said about Marciano, Holmes deserves NO RESPECT.

Tyson who had a similar height to Rocky whooped his big black behind

@@rm3869 Marciano is NO Tyson 🥱

@@rm3869 Larry boxing career was over by then. Had no business in the ring

When Holmes fought Ali not only was Ali old , he wasn't the Ali from the 60's. His prime was taken from him. Prime Ali would beat any heavyweight from any era.

@@TheMeefive not tyson sorry

Marciano was 5'11, 180lbs. If he would've fought in Holmes era or this era, he probably would've fought as a light heavyweight or cruiserweight

@@crookslesane more like 168 if he wsa a natural 180

@@xBXRxAaron He trained down to 185lbs....Probably weighed naturally at 200+lbs.

“Marciano can’t hold my jockstrap”. Some class. He even blamed others for “making him say that”. Sewer rat….

he definitely put the ass in class !!!

Dope

Gtfoh-- Rocky didn't fight anyone great until they were old-- then he quit before he was the old man fighting young men. But then again, I would've quit too if I caught wind of Sonny Liston.

I got the impression he dang near owns the city.

Marciano is overrated!😂

Definitely not humble

It's hard to be when vlad interview's anyone with his arrogant ignorant questions 😁

@Krunchy Vurn Bictim that’s an interesting theory - could be!

@@eliekurtz or getting rocked in the head for years a possibility

Ali had a tremendous amount of respect for Frazier. Ali was about promoting the fight. Love me or hate me, I'm going to bring you to the television set. And he sure did that. Coz when Ali fought the world stopped

Yea Ali did an act with that. He went into detail about all of that, and how he was trying to make it the most watched sporting event in human history. The build-up to the fight was revolutionary, and was basically a blue-print for build-ups in both Boxing and Pro-Wrestling angles. Joe didn't know that though, and thought Ali had legit turned on him, as a real thing. That was never the case, and Ali tried to make peace with Joe for years, and basically pleaded with him that it was an act, and that he was sorry. Joe finally forgave him, but it was a long process.