Roland Martin on Pledging Alpha, Goes Off on Fraternity Hazing: That's the Dumbest S*** (Part 3)

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Жыл бұрын

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In this clip, renowned journalist/news commentator Roland Martin reflects back on growing up in the Third Ward neighborhood of Houston, Texas. He also explains the factors that led to his decision to attend Texas A&M over the local HBCU's. He explains that despite some of the backlash he's received over his decision, he's a proud alum and his choice was heavily influenced by his financial situation at the time, because his parents spent less than $1,000 combined between him and his two siblings while they were in college. He also breaks down the demographics at PWIs and HBCUs.
Roland Martin also details pledging Alpha Phi Alpha, the oldest historically African American fraternity. During the discussion, Martin condemns hazing and says it's not the right way to mold young fraternity members. He also talks about challenging other peers who condone hazing before breaking down its history. To hear more, check out the clip above.
Interview by: Shawn Prez
Check out his youtube channel at: / powermovemakers

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@rolandsmartin
@rolandsmartin Жыл бұрын
I DESPISE hazing!
@thenovelist7472
@thenovelist7472 Жыл бұрын
You despise a treadmill
@SeanBaker
@SeanBaker Жыл бұрын
@Roland Did you hear that the local CBS affiliate, here in OKC, donated their ENTIRE former studio and equipment to Langston University for their Journalism program? That's major!
@qmoorman
@qmoorman Жыл бұрын
You said a word in this segment👏🏾 fearlessly, at that. this is what the organizations are supposed to stand for. Black excellence.They've adopted a gang/street mentality and it seemed like they even had it back then.
@randallklassen1061
@randallklassen1061 Жыл бұрын
​@@thenovelist7472 lmao truth
@jf704
@jf704 Жыл бұрын
Many are called few are chosen
@rodneydunn8196
@rodneydunn8196 Жыл бұрын
No parent sent their child to school to come home in a box!!!! Talk that shit Roland…. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@brianprince2565
@brianprince2565 Жыл бұрын
Man..unfortunately this was the reason I never wanted to pledge as a junior transfer. I saw people getting hazed around campus and one person ended up dying as a result. I’m all for brotherhood and the unity but he’s right, hazing doesn’t “make the man into a brother”
@Marv20
@Marv20 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, my frat ended up being the football team.
@yacobcastro
@yacobcastro Жыл бұрын
Pledging as a Junior Transfer is only a PWI thing I mean it’s possible if you wanna go Sigma…but it’s not really heard of often at HBCU’s.
@Facts-Over-Feelings
@Facts-Over-Feelings Жыл бұрын
ARE BLACK MEN FORCED TO TALK TO THIS GUY WHOS A PROVEN RACIST AND A SPY PLANT.. ONLY BLACK PEOPLE TALKING THERE CRAP TO NON BLACKS.. THIS IS CRAZY.. NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS..
@markeyosef1579
@markeyosef1579 5 ай бұрын
It's wicked and not of Christ. You made the right decision.
@michaelsmith8082
@michaelsmith8082 2 ай бұрын
Facts
@thar7347
@thar7347 Жыл бұрын
I desperately wanted to pledge but was warned about it. I am currently teaching at an HBCU, and two of my students were hospitalized in the spring of 2019. This is terribly sad.
@TWN321
@TWN321 9 ай бұрын
Yeah… it’s still going on today..
@StoptheshadowbanYT
@StoptheshadowbanYT 17 күн бұрын
Animals
@bridgetp3989
@bridgetp3989 Жыл бұрын
Me and my LS just had this conversation the other day. So much to unpack here.
@TheHeavyspr1986
@TheHeavyspr1986 Жыл бұрын
That was one of the best talks about what the pledging process should be. I pledged K A Psi in 1986 and went through a couple of things to say the least. Bonding and becoming ONE was the result of a tough process. Getting hit did nothing for me. Thanks Roland for having the courage to talk candidly about Hazing.👌👌👌
@AFServices1
@AFServices1 Жыл бұрын
👌🏾
@Facts-Over-Feelings
@Facts-Over-Feelings Жыл бұрын
ARE BLACK MEN FORCED TO TALK TO THIS GUY WHOS A PROVEN RACIST AND A SPY PLANT.. ONLY BLACK PEOPLE TALKING THERE CRAP TO NON BLACKS.. THIS IS CRAZY.. NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS..
@dr.davidjuliusfordjr.6697
@dr.davidjuliusfordjr.6697 Жыл бұрын
♦️👌🏿♦️👌🏿♦️👌🏿
@504Chosenone
@504Chosenone 4 ай бұрын
Why y’all never say wat u went through
@user-tn3fn9rz4o
@user-tn3fn9rz4o 3 ай бұрын
@@504Chosenonebecause they did some homosexual shit too lol
@ShaggyQue1911
@ShaggyQue1911 Жыл бұрын
I respect your position Mr. Martin. For those who don't know, the reason Shawn kept repeating Roland's pledge date is because throughout the 80's and early 90s, physical violence as a rite of passage was rampant and at a fever pitch. Deaths/permanent physical and psychological injuries were becoming far too common and chapters wore it as a badge of honor. After crossing, if you didn't have the horror stories about your process, then you, your line, and your chapter were suspect.
@satisfiedcustomer
@satisfiedcustomer Жыл бұрын
If you don't have horror stories "now" your chapter and line are still considered sus! I see you on the other side of 1911 my D9 fam...Diggs and Coleman rocked with one another tho IYKYK! Yo to the good NUPES!👌🏾♦️
@mindyourbusiness1811
@mindyourbusiness1811 Жыл бұрын
You got branded like a cow to be accepted. Lmaooo you corny
@Facts-Over-Feelings
@Facts-Over-Feelings Жыл бұрын
ARE BLACK MEN FORCED TO TALK TO THIS GUY WHOS A PROVEN RACIST AND A SPY PLANT.. ONLY BLACK PEOPLE TALKING THERE CRAP TO NON BLACKS.. THIS IS CRAZY.. NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS..
@ShaggyQue1911
@ShaggyQue1911 Жыл бұрын
@@satisfiedcustomer Definitely still true! Be easy 1911 D9 Fam!
@bbebop30
@bbebop30 Жыл бұрын
Yeah...those of us who went to college in the 1980's. We remember it all very well. sad.
@RonnieM90
@RonnieM90 Жыл бұрын
I am glad he spoke about this. I am not in any fraternity, but it is sad to hear about people dying from hazing.
@jameelahbf4
@jameelahbf4 Жыл бұрын
As a member of the D9, I was initiated Spring 99 into Delta and my big sisters brought us in with love. One of my big sisters said, “how can I call you my sister and I beat you,” and that stuck with me. I never understood hazing. I know many Sorors who did participate in hazing and are on apology tours with Sorors they abused. Being called cat or paper never mattered to me. I am a life member as well and many of these “real” Greeks haven’t been active since they were initiated.
@6thgenmew514
@6thgenmew514 Жыл бұрын
Because you adopted a culture based on Ponzi scheme secrecy and it modeled after the yt fraternities & sorority. Hazing in its simplistic form is a loyalty game
@miraclesblessings5044
@miraclesblessings5044 Жыл бұрын
Let em know Soror!!!! Oooooo-Ooop!
@SuperKshepherd
@SuperKshepherd Жыл бұрын
U cat
@tyronedavidson4372
@tyronedavidson4372 Жыл бұрын
I believe in Pledging not hazing. Roland attempts to justify his membership into Alpha because he choose not to pledge. Like I said there is a difference between Pledging and hazing.
@robbiefrantz8170
@robbiefrantz8170 Жыл бұрын
11
@BillCaddell
@BillCaddell Жыл бұрын
Spring '92 here- brother Martin tells it exactly like it is here. Well done bruh.
@nathanhollis7584
@nathanhollis7584 Жыл бұрын
I totally understand his follow the money statement. My grandson is graduating in May from one of Houston’s most prestigious private high schools. The HBCU’s that he has applied to in Houston and around the country are offering a minuscule amount on financial assistance. But the PWI’s that he applied to are kicking the bank vaults wide open to get that young black student onto their campus. As a family we would be total fools to disregard that financial assistance and saddle us and that young man with a massive amount of college student loans. We’re all unapologetically BLACK folks…and dammit we always will be.
@bighitz2400
@bighitz2400 Жыл бұрын
Tell it
@ashleyjones5396
@ashleyjones5396 Жыл бұрын
I went to a PWI and that definitely doesn’t make me any less black! My son is only considering HBCUs and I’ve told him public schools or at least with equal expenses as state schools since we have some financial say with the money that will be used for his education plus scholarships. I support him and hope he gets what he is looking for at an HBCU. School is school to me, but then again my school had 26% minorities VCU in Richmond, VA.
@sid2daknee
@sid2daknee 10 ай бұрын
I agree, my brother went to community college and transferred with a 4.1 GPA. His dream was to go to FAMU. Long story short, they were a bit shady with their scholarships and reneged on what they offered him. Meanwhile Brown University (An ivy league school) offered him a full ride...He's getting ready to graduate this year and doesn't have to pay a dime while his friends he went to high school with have racked up 80k-100k in student loan debt.
@bruhmanflight
@bruhmanflight Жыл бұрын
When I pledged greek, it was instilled in me the reason for the “physical training” (never to be called "hazing" because we are a non hazing fraternity) that took place and I didn’t understand why then. Now, even as a 32 year old, I’m still waiting on the “why” for it being 100% necessary…..
@michaelsmith8082
@michaelsmith8082 2 ай бұрын
Speak Facts Brother & depending on your line # another Brother with that number would haze the Shhhit out of you. Never understood hazing.
@queenmitchell8657
@queenmitchell8657 15 күн бұрын
It’s all spritual
@charles..9662
@charles..9662 Жыл бұрын
My respect to Martin he keep it too real everytime 💯 💯💯 H-Town tx 🤘🏾God Blessed that brother
@ritaandleo
@ritaandleo Жыл бұрын
Just love Roland Martin!!! Speak!!!
@kidtae1
@kidtae1 Жыл бұрын
I’m a member of a D9 crossed summer 08 and I felt the same way like Roland, he dropping a lot of facts and it’s crazy because prophytes and old bruhs who have kids careers and all that fall in the mindset of hazing because they got hazed
@Noneofyourbyisness
@Noneofyourbyisness Жыл бұрын
Much respect to this one. Makes me rethink some choices I’ve made.
@tyronedavidson4372
@tyronedavidson4372 Жыл бұрын
I pledged, earned my letters. You can pledge without being hated.
@LoveAndSnapple
@LoveAndSnapple 8 ай бұрын
@@tyronedavidson4372They’re just a bunch of letters. As someone who was also in a sorority, don’t be brainwashed. Greek life isn’t even in different countries so if you were born somewhere else it wouldn’t have mattered to you.
@Douglass10
@Douglass10 4 ай бұрын
@@LoveAndSnappleyeah that’s literally everything in life
@forensicaccountant259
@forensicaccountant259 Жыл бұрын
"Why would I voluntarily incur debt?" Exactly.
@yayits1990
@yayits1990 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody has said it. My HS teacher worried if I pleaged her sorority because she new if somebody hazed my ass she knew it was up and I was fighting everybody. She always was scared for me to pledge because of that. She knew I didn't play.
@gigidawn2003
@gigidawn2003 Жыл бұрын
All Facts! I'm in D9 and said this throughout my involvement in a sorority
@pkc11d
@pkc11d Жыл бұрын
So glad he spoke up
@woodleyvictor5072
@woodleyvictor5072 Жыл бұрын
I am glad he spoke on this. That's the reason I never joined a fraternity.
@BooksbySelena
@BooksbySelena Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you spoke up Roland.
@miraclesblessings5044
@miraclesblessings5044 Жыл бұрын
Preach Uncle Roland!!!! As a member of the D9 some chapters forget about unity and excellence.
@bxi1547
@bxi1547 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@christopherphillips6486
@christopherphillips6486 Жыл бұрын
I didn't pledge at my HBCU, because I was not going to let some guy beat me for 6 months until they felt I was ready to become their brother. All of the men and women in my family are in a Fraternity or a Sorority, so I understand what they do and what they are about. I couldn't let somebody treat me like trash.
@marqosmarqos1201
@marqosmarqos1201 Жыл бұрын
You dont understand. Having family members tell you a few stories is not like going through the process yourself. Its only one way to understand and thats to go through the process.
@dontem.8369
@dontem.8369 Жыл бұрын
You not hard in da paint. I pledged bloody BT alpha phi alpha at Xavier University Louisiana. 6 months online and I was made right. Man up, you need to recognize…
@DavidWilliams-pb6he
@DavidWilliams-pb6he Жыл бұрын
Pledged and let me tell you it’s so unnecessary. On the plus side it gives a common experience and sense of accomplishment but on the other side brutality is outdated. Have we not been beaten and brutalized enough in this country? If you have to whip someone’s ass to get them to produce then what good will they ultimately be once they get in? Once those letters go on you can’t beat on someone to get results! And if you are a Christian the Bible expressly forbids the taken of oaths amongst other heretical things. For instance in the Alpha ritual, alpha is presented as the “light of the world”? There is only one true Light of the world and that is Jesus Christ!
@LifeThroughGodsCounsel
@LifeThroughGodsCounsel Жыл бұрын
AMEN! 🙏 GOD BLESS YOU!
@sharon4094
@sharon4094 Ай бұрын
Same here
@blackice3395
@blackice3395 Жыл бұрын
My uncle went to Fayetteville State (HBCU) he said the only reason why he didn't pledge Que.. because he wasn't raised to get his ass whipped. Rest well Uncle Robert
@bestvids9399
@bestvids9399 Жыл бұрын
Now that's gangsta factz
@johndeere593
@johndeere593 Жыл бұрын
​@@bestvids9399 that's pure ignorance
@jordanwilliams1546
@jordanwilliams1546 Жыл бұрын
Good for your uncle 👍. Smart
@datniggaeazye.5968
@datniggaeazye.5968 Жыл бұрын
sounds like he had heart rest up to him
@kingtmoney06
@kingtmoney06 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Vandingo_254
@Vandingo_254 Жыл бұрын
Much Respect to Brother Martin! 06!!!!🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
@iamjohnson8294
@iamjohnson8294 5 ай бұрын
Needed this, thank you @rolandsmartin for your candor
@kingbyron3871
@kingbyron3871 Жыл бұрын
He is speaking the truth….I pledged Kappa at Prairie View in 1999…not speaking on anything that we experienced but I can honestly say that now that I am in my 40’s and see things from a different perspective……I get it now👊🏾👊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✌🏾✌🏾
@apwilliams93able
@apwilliams93able Жыл бұрын
Facts
@TSwann
@TSwann Жыл бұрын
By you saying you’re not going to speak on it invalidates the rest of your statement.
@kingbyron3871
@kingbyron3871 Жыл бұрын
@@TSwann “MY” journey and growth has nothing to do with you. No one even asked you your opinion on “MY” comment. “MY” pledging experiences are just that…….”MY” experiences! Me seeing things differently as I have gotten older, has absolutely nothing to do with me sharing “MY” experiences on a social media outlet for the world to see just to prove my point to satisfy anybody fam.✊🏾👊🏾✌🏾
@nochso6835
@nochso6835 Ай бұрын
​@kingbyron3871 Aight don't share then. But hurry up and come up out of that agreement with some greek gods. Hurry!! Jesus Christ is waiting for you.
@donaldkirksey97
@donaldkirksey97 24 күн бұрын
Good, but Roland Martin is lying.
@EnergyBrooks
@EnergyBrooks Жыл бұрын
Given our ancestral history with slavery, paddle hazing in Black frats just seems like a sadistic fetishism and a symbolism of buck breaking.
@akashicpurple3206
@akashicpurple3206 4 ай бұрын
You sound stupid AF 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lovelyone98
@lovelyone98 3 ай бұрын
@EnergyBrooks That is exactly what it sounds like.
@sharon4094
@sharon4094 Ай бұрын
💯
@harolddoctorjr7074
@harolddoctorjr7074 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree, Frat! I went through the same thing. Spring 91. A phi A
@CBReal1290
@CBReal1290 6 ай бұрын
Excellent interview and response. Thank you so much Roland For your trying to help our people return to what things were originally founded upon and respected
@trujourney
@trujourney Жыл бұрын
Their is a HUGE difference between “Pledging” & “Hazing”!!!
@michaelsmith8082
@michaelsmith8082 2 ай бұрын
Facts even you go to a HBCU, if word gets out y'all had to cross, cause word got out about an hazing incident, and the had to rush line to cross everybody. Other chapters would consider you "Paper" no respect. Very sad
@BMonroe
@BMonroe 5 ай бұрын
Facts!!!! I don’t understand how beating a person down is a sisterhood/brotherhood. Ain’t no way! We’ve been beat for decades and I refuse to allow anybody to talk down or put they hands on me.
@lovelyone98
@lovelyone98 3 ай бұрын
@BMonroe Exactly, some people get off on abusing people.
@MsCarringtonsYoutube
@MsCarringtonsYoutube 7 күн бұрын
Period !
@terrelldinkins273
@terrelldinkins273 Жыл бұрын
I pledged fall 1986. No physical hazing on my campus. I attended a PWI. This message needs to start from the top. It's still wink, wink with fraternities. They say no hazing, but still hazing these boys. Stupid to call people paper because they didn't get beaten. It sickens me.
@z040880
@z040880 Жыл бұрын
You're paper and PWI...pick one....your opinion doesn't count
@SethChillis
@SethChillis Жыл бұрын
How about we call ya'll cat lol
@terrelldinkins273
@terrelldinkins273 Жыл бұрын
The point if joining the organizations is to provide service to the community. I am now a life member and have been serving my community for over 30 years. Call me what you want, but I understood the assignment and the mission. My process wasn't easy, mentally (I was initiated in the 80's) but no one hit me and I can look them in the eyes and call them my sorors without any malice in my heart.
@marqosmarqos1201
@marqosmarqos1201 Жыл бұрын
@@SethChillis lol
@LoveAndSnapple
@LoveAndSnapple 8 ай бұрын
@@terrelldinkins273 Speak on it. The only badge of honor that these people can wear are the lumps and bruises that they’ve carried since they were in their young teens and early 20s. Probably hobbling along recounting their war stories and trauma bonding with their line brothers and sisters.
@sjoyceboyer4719
@sjoyceboyer4719 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@miltonbrownjr3755
@miltonbrownjr3755 Жыл бұрын
Real talk 💯
@cem7387
@cem7387 Жыл бұрын
He speaking straight Facts!
@ogtony1338
@ogtony1338 Жыл бұрын
My pops pledged Omega Psi Phi in "88 he told me how bad the hazing was he said he had his ribs broken from being kicked while doing push ups and how him and his line had to eat dog food out of a dog pan and how they had to strip down naked and get paddled for being late he also mentioned how one of his LB's committed suicide right after they crossed over cause he was so damaged from what happened my pops told he still has ptsd to this day from what happened.
@Mytamponisdirty
@Mytamponisdirty Жыл бұрын
Sounds like yo pops is a hoe ass n*gga cause aint no way another man about to make me strip naked to paddle me FOH.
@jordanwilliams1546
@jordanwilliams1546 Жыл бұрын
That’s tragic I’m glad I didn’t join a D9 organization
@djlee1977
@djlee1977 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Alpha. We was hazed. But the omega's version of hazing was way more brutal. They was straight abused.
@akeem2752
@akeem2752 Жыл бұрын
I heard the Kappas was beating folks. I'm from Englewood in Chicago. I told my boy I ain't let niggas in the hood put they hands on me I'm not about to pay a light skin-pretty boy nigga put his hands on me. We were summoned to the house one night, I didn't go, he came back to my dorm all fucked up. He said they all got jumped and robbed by the Kappas. And four of the Kappas ended up coming out a couple years later. I'm glad I dodged those butt games I heard they played.
@jaywoods375
@jaywoods375 Жыл бұрын
what school, what chapter. i don't believe you
@LeoKing75
@LeoKing75 Жыл бұрын
Roland Martin is a treasure for black folks. So what he didn’t go to an HBCU. He’s still speaking truth about our plight in this country.
@bertrenjenkins4681
@bertrenjenkins4681 Ай бұрын
Thank you brother.
@deryksmith8942
@deryksmith8942 Жыл бұрын
One of my brothers said that during his process he literally hated his big brothers because of what what done to him.
@sharon4094
@sharon4094 Ай бұрын
That's what I always thought.
@dewaynejay1032
@dewaynejay1032 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I never pledge such as joined any of that bc I’m afraid of what I would of done to them if they did me like that 🤦🏾‍♂️
@GregMeg
@GregMeg Жыл бұрын
Respect to Roland .
@deryksmith8942
@deryksmith8942 Жыл бұрын
Love this bro
@Therealfeliciamccoy
@Therealfeliciamccoy Жыл бұрын
The crap we’ve done in the name of community service. 😢
@spiderpimp33
@spiderpimp33 Жыл бұрын
Can’t front, even though I went through the ‘underground’ pledge process almost 20yrs ago, if my son decided to pledge in 15yrs, I wouldn’t want him to be hazed. That shit was crazy back in the day and I hear it’s even worse nowadays. Lol! These new cats are out of control with hazing. Some of the non-physical/mental aspects of hazing are rough as the physical aspects. As a 39yr old, I definitely see things differently. Because a lot of cats that get or got beat, aren’t as active as ‘Paper’ bruhs.
@joeblack2809
@joeblack2809 Жыл бұрын
Bruh as someone who also pledged you shouldn’t be talking about it. You must not have pledged or maybe you did and dropped like a heaux 😂🤣😂
@jaredmeadows2195
@jaredmeadows2195 Жыл бұрын
You guys are all losers LOL
@markissthegod
@markissthegod Жыл бұрын
@@joeblack2809 you definitely gotta be some type of hoe to go thru the shit as a man all y’all weird as hell ah lil sick in head for letting another man whip yo ass hundreds of times with a paddle
@chrisisslick
@chrisisslick Жыл бұрын
Even ppl that didn't pledge, like myself, are well aware of hazing. It's an open secret at this point, although organizations try to lie about it lol.
@harveyprobz94
@harveyprobz94 Жыл бұрын
@@joeblack2809 Discretion is key 🤫
@glenharris8671
@glenharris8671 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Roland...perfectly said....
@dr.davidjuliusfordjr.6697
@dr.davidjuliusfordjr.6697 Жыл бұрын
Our insurance premiums are astronomical and some undergraduate chapters and small alumni chapters are struggling to pay those premiums.
@arntrezlacy399
@arntrezlacy399 Жыл бұрын
Good point. More focus should focus in service based objectives seminar to current undergrads on joining for rights reasons and not hold on to pass tradition s on ignition procedures. Life after college/carrer goals and financial literacy should be topics of discussions for prospective members
@QueenLeo94
@QueenLeo94 Жыл бұрын
I do not believe physical, emotional or mental damage must be inflicted to bring unity on a line But I do believe accountability is necessary. I pledged a Business fraternity and we had public speaking requirements, business attire we had to wear etc What we learned prepared us for the corporate world & forced my pledge class to work together on group projects for weeks at a time No harm was done & I had pledge brothers I will jump & help to this day. Divine 9 has the influence to make the pledge process 100% constructive I’m also an AKA & was initiated at a PWI. Been financially active since I joined in 2015
@henrykellogg7202
@henrykellogg7202 Жыл бұрын
Love the story … Great interview Sounds like me in Spring 88 @ an HBCU. I wasn’t playing that shit especially from Brothers that was not financially active.
@z040880
@z040880 Жыл бұрын
What chapter?
@afrothundar
@afrothundar Жыл бұрын
Hazing is idiotic. A lot of Frats like to say that the process protects the integrity of the frat by weeding out people who can’t “handle” the process. We’ll in my opinion it does the opposite, the reputation of BS keeps a lot of good brothers out, especially at the grad chapter level. I’m a doctor, my pops is an omega, id love to join and work with the frat on initiatives in the community. At the same time though I’m too old and have accomplished too much to let another man out hands on me.
@Lolo-vy5tk
@Lolo-vy5tk Жыл бұрын
Great points but usually the pledge process @ graduate level or post graduate is based on community service projects. At least, that was my experience when I pledged the graduate chapter of Delta Sigma Theta. It was a beautiful, loving, and respectful process.
@afrothundar
@afrothundar Жыл бұрын
@@Lolo-vy5tk I think the ladies grow out of the BS faster than the men. I’m closely affiliated with some Omegas at the grad level and there’s still a ton of BS that goes on.
@NOCDIB
@NOCDIB 11 ай бұрын
I'm with you on that. Black male software engineer here and I would have pledged Omega had it not been for their history of violence. In no dimension, including this one, is another man beating me and not getting it back immediately.
@dbdb32
@dbdb32 6 ай бұрын
​​@@afrothundar it's not even about uplifting black folks anymore. Sure community work is done, but it really just seems about exclusivity and gives one group of black people the ability to say "we're better" than the rest of black folks. It's one thing to have a rigorous process, in fact, I support that in order to keep the process challenging as not to invite laziness and mediocrity...but as black folks, we've been getting beat up and beat on our entire history in this country and to have groups doing the same thing under the guise of "helping our community" is hypocritical and disgusting.
@NewWAVEMan
@NewWAVEMan Жыл бұрын
Yes!! 100% on the pledging
@duanejrc
@duanejrc Жыл бұрын
Love to see another fraternity man speak out against hazing. The shit is stupid
@michaelstorayii7197
@michaelstorayii7197 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Roland Martin on his anti-hazing stance. I hate it too. I can't believe I subjected myself to that back in the day when I was pledging.
@generalimac
@generalimac 7 ай бұрын
Roland is spot on! 🤙🏽
@kckgirl78
@kckgirl78 8 ай бұрын
Well said, Sir. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@marselluswallace6597
@marselluswallace6597 Жыл бұрын
Solid interview !!! Roland is on point !!!!!
@DrAlexanderHamilton
@DrAlexanderHamilton Жыл бұрын
As a member of a black fraternity, I can attest to everything Mr. Martin is saying. A lot people were beat to members of their organization and it did not make them a better brother. Just because you were hazed does not mean you pledged.
@negrodamus323
@negrodamus323 Жыл бұрын
Yes it does. If U pledge the army for the US...or any military (because basically thats what pledging is most similar too). Do u think they jus memorize a few things and walk on
@jordy3701
@jordy3701 6 ай бұрын
@@negrodamus323u get some trainings but they don’t beat you , demean you, and give you permanent physical damage before you even get on the field ??
@michaelsmith8082
@michaelsmith8082 2 ай бұрын
Facts
@javonfordyce1742
@javonfordyce1742 25 күн бұрын
@@jordy3701that’s a fact. I’m in the army my basic training was harsh. They did demean you a lil to throw you off your high horse. For them everyone was equal. Everyone had their role to play.
@keishaeller6714
@keishaeller6714 Жыл бұрын
Love Roland Martin! 💙🤍🕊️
@eroberobe6931
@eroberobe6931 Жыл бұрын
Love this Brother
@localmatterspodcastofgeorg3624
@localmatterspodcastofgeorg3624 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Roland. Your commentary has never been more accurate. I am a Diamond Life member of Delta Sigma Theta, initiated into the Mu Upsilon Chapter, College of William and Mary, Fall 1982. Also served as an Alpha Sweetheart, Kappy Pi Chapter, 1981-1985.
@spiderpimp33
@spiderpimp33 Жыл бұрын
🤙🏾🤙🏾 In tha building! Fall 04’
@chazthomas8745
@chazthomas8745 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was a pearl in that chapter
@darnellayers3245
@darnellayers3245 2 ай бұрын
Well said🤙🏾
@RamSoulja86
@RamSoulja86 Жыл бұрын
ALL D9 orgs AND other BGLOs need to watch THIS segment!!!
@machiavelllli
@machiavelllli Жыл бұрын
I was on line for a D9 org in college. The guy had me in the car and said we’re gonna teach you about Fall 18, I told him we’re gonna see about that. Everybody in the car went quiet. A lot of these dudes really soft, be a leader stand on your own two.
@SuperKshepherd
@SuperKshepherd Жыл бұрын
Stop stop. No you didn’t.
@machiavelllli
@machiavelllli Жыл бұрын
@@SuperKshepherd I did, but I’m guessing you let them bend your dumb ass over and spank you and your ass swelled up
@Mytamponisdirty
@Mytamponisdirty Жыл бұрын
🧢 🧢 🧢
@machiavelllli
@machiavelllli Жыл бұрын
@@Mytamponisdirty why are you so triggered? Every one of you who comments I just know you got beat up and you took it 😂😂😂😂😂 You mad af 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@SuperKshepherd
@SuperKshepherd Жыл бұрын
@@machiavelllli No. Its just the process. Enjoy your day.
@thegodnykilrashad
@thegodnykilrashad Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@candicer2571
@candicer2571 Жыл бұрын
I went to school with Roland. I can attest to everything he said. The Deltas had the same philosophy. We were very close to the Alphas at TAMU.
@negrodamus323
@negrodamus323 Жыл бұрын
Then they all skated
@theintrovertedc.o.6214
@theintrovertedc.o.6214 Жыл бұрын
I respect this guy!
@thegreatdel9679
@thegreatdel9679 Жыл бұрын
Why he’s a sellout
@theintrovertedc.o.6214
@theintrovertedc.o.6214 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatdel9679 What did he sell out too?
@thegreatdel9679
@thegreatdel9679 Жыл бұрын
@@theintrovertedc.o.6214 the liberal LGBTQ mafia
@Mikea598
@Mikea598 Жыл бұрын
​@@thegreatdel9679 Exactly
@bbu1229
@bbu1229 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling like it is Roland!!! College is College...I was in the same boat. I feel the same exact way. I went to a PWI and I'm still the same BLACK Man I was when I left home as when I came back home!!! I also feel the same way about pledging, dumb crap. You don't have to touch anyone to get your point across; what about the selection process? If you don't select the right people, then you are not getting the right people that fit your organization. I took the wood, but some of those same brothers don't speak or haven't done anything for me. You can have fun with things, but don't demean anyone.
@JohnDoe-yi4xd
@JohnDoe-yi4xd 3 ай бұрын
Line folders vary from chapter to chapter. Some even have your line number on them.
@jimkent1480
@jimkent1480 Жыл бұрын
I attended Texas Southern University in Houston, Tx, in the early to late 90s.... it was known if you're going to pledge as a male... it's possible your life would be on the line or you will be taken to Ben Taub Hospital in Houston, Tx, for trauma. I did not pledge for that reason... my father sat me down after i spoke with him, and said "son its not worth it". I finished from TSU and earned my degree in 99.
@marqosmarqos1201
@marqosmarqos1201 Жыл бұрын
I pledged Alpha across the street at the University of Houston (spring 1992). Went to graduate school in Connecticut. Now I make 6 figures. Pledging prepared me for the mental hazing I experienced in grad school. One of the best things I did in my life. My process was organized and well structured. It was a good experience. None of us went to the hospital.
@jimkent1480
@jimkent1480 Жыл бұрын
@MarQos MarQos You were blessed, brother. i have a close friend who lost his hearing in his left ear behind Kappa. Im glad you were able to have a better experience brother. Not against the brotherhood... just the other stuff... young men hv lost their lives behind those letters
@marqosmarqos1201
@marqosmarqos1201 Жыл бұрын
@@jimkent1480 I feel what you are saying brother but the acts of extreme brutality and death are not the norm. I've initiated brothers in the south as well as the east coast when I was in grad school. I've never witnessed anyone hurt to the degree that they had to seek medical attention. I've always witnessed pledging in controlled, safe environments and if I saw a brother about to crack I would take the brother to the side and let him refocus. The pledge process is a rites of passage that stays with you your entire life and prepares you for the real world which is not very kind. You have to learn to face your fears and adversity head on and deal with it as a man. I dont condone brutailty but a challenging rites of passage is necessary for young black men. I experienced a rites of passage in the military as well as in college when I joined a fraternity. They were both essential to my development as the successful family man I am today.
@lovelyone98
@lovelyone98 3 ай бұрын
​@@marqosmarqos1201There should have never been any abuse to anybody. Some of you all get off on beating on people.
@marqosmarqos1201
@marqosmarqos1201 3 ай бұрын
@@lovelyone98 How many abortions have you had?
@spoolyboi9434
@spoolyboi9434 Жыл бұрын
I went to an hbcu and enjoyed the experience for the two years I went but dropped out because of the financial stress in put on me and my family, as well as not being certain about what I wanted to do, if I could have a second chance I'd definitely go to a pwi, and hazing is stupid what sense does it make to beat "loyalty" into someone, lowkey sounds like some slavery mindset ish
@JDavis-zk6vd
@JDavis-zk6vd Жыл бұрын
If you would have pledged, your line brothers would have pulled together and made sure you had what you needed to stay in school and graduate! That's the part non-greeks don't have the luxury of experiencing in life! Just like when I'm hiring....it doesn't matter which organization, Devine 9 is going to get the job!
@spoolyboi9434
@spoolyboi9434 Жыл бұрын
@J. Davis ΩΨΦ if the cost is a ass whipping I'm good, currently doing just as good if not better than some of my classmates, a home owner as well, college isn't the only way trades and skills deserve to be pushed just as hard as a degree but our people are to bouije to hear that
@JDavis-zk6vd
@JDavis-zk6vd Жыл бұрын
@@spoolyboi9434 "College isn't the only way," that's a bullshit cop out for those who fail to apply themselves in school! The odds of becoming successful are far greater with a college degree! Numbers don't lie!
@Bugger22
@Bugger22 Жыл бұрын
@@JDavis-zk6vd I have strong bonds with “Greeks (cough), and non-Greeks from my college days. And both tried to keep me from leaving school in ‘94 when things got to overwhelming. All you need to be in life is a person of high morals and character. Thanks for carrying on the slave masters’ grand design. 🤦🏾‍♂️
@swaggtastic51
@swaggtastic51 Жыл бұрын
So you hire just because of some stupid affiliation instead of who’s best for the job?
@ernestined.lawrence9514
@ernestined.lawrence9514 Жыл бұрын
It’s about time men voice this kind of wisdom! It’s about damn time!
@A3901_
@A3901_ 5 ай бұрын
We love it! we love it! We want more of it!! 😂
@DeeBrownLTD
@DeeBrownLTD Жыл бұрын
Boy Roland is PREACHING ‼️‼️
@vegitausa
@vegitausa Жыл бұрын
Maaan, he stirring up the hornets nest lol but he speaking the truth!
@vrcorvettes2048
@vrcorvettes2048 Жыл бұрын
Its only a hornets nest cause its thise "dudes" mad -cause thats it. You are in a brotherhood on Wednesday but Tuesday that same dude kicked you in the ribs. Now hes your "brother". After graduation....neither has done anything but hey we bruths...and "kangs"...
@SpoonTunez
@SpoonTunez Жыл бұрын
Roland Martin is one man who doesn’t tolerate foolishness 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Alphanomics06
@Alphanomics06 Жыл бұрын
Speak on it Roland
@paulielamont6739
@paulielamont6739 Жыл бұрын
Spilling all the tea. Mad cat!
@thepoorblackman
@thepoorblackman Жыл бұрын
I came for the comments. 🍿🍿 too many grown men in the comments who got spanked by other men. That's nothing to be proud of.
@zeddieperryiv799
@zeddieperryiv799 Жыл бұрын
I’m saying 😂
@AnthonyJohnson-hl1ru
@AnthonyJohnson-hl1ru Жыл бұрын
Roland Martin a good 👍 dude 😎💯
@SGP100
@SGP100 Күн бұрын
I like what he saying and it makes great sense. Props!
@dblanchard78
@dblanchard78 Ай бұрын
Well said Good Brother 🤙🏾
@redcarpetfly
@redcarpetfly Жыл бұрын
I love hearing Roland Martin talk about his pledging days! Being a Divine Nine member myself (who pledged), I enjoy hearing the old head's stories.
@derekwalker8114
@derekwalker8114 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Rolland! I said this back in 89. Why get my ass kicked for 3 letters. That's why I never pledged. I had an epiphany when I went to Africa. I'm an African but I want to be a Greek? That makes no sense to me. Rolland is correct. Pay all that money and never graduate, send your kids off to school and come back in a body bag. I love his concept. Much respect.
@MrYelder1
@MrYelder1 Жыл бұрын
First line killed me, how do you ask or imply if Texas A&M is a HBCU 🤦🏿
@Thomas-yu4hn
@Thomas-yu4hn Жыл бұрын
Facts > Feelings
@thehbkboy
@thehbkboy Жыл бұрын
4:06-4:08 is That Chris Smoove Laugh From 2012
@victorwilliams1304
@victorwilliams1304 Жыл бұрын
Roland never disappoints
@alslimshady7215
@alslimshady7215 Жыл бұрын
Roland sucks not a Real news journalist
@thedeeprot
@thedeeprot Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@bs070667
@bs070667 Жыл бұрын
I want to thank Roland for discussing matters of hazing. I also went to a PWI, with aspirations of pledging of fraternity. I was hesitant about pledging as I didn’t want to get hazed. I had enough of it just being in the Army. I was able to graduate with my degree and maintain friendships with those who did pledge. The stories of their pledging experiences were horrible. In my opinion, hazing has no place in building young people for membership in the D9.
@elizabetho6506
@elizabetho6506 Жыл бұрын
I was on line in 98. They tried to kill me. My light skinned ass was literally purple. The whole line dropped. I couldn’t even sit in a chair in class. And this is only after the first few weeks. I swear I took my mask off and wanted to fight a 300 pound football player. That was my last night
@BluDrop5
@BluDrop5 Жыл бұрын
Wow...that's crazy. I'm glad you left.
@davidforreal2116
@davidforreal2116 Жыл бұрын
That shits out of line
@arntrezlacy399
@arntrezlacy399 Жыл бұрын
Crazy. More of a gang nowadays as opposed to being a org or fraternity
@whoozdis
@whoozdis Жыл бұрын
It really amazes me that a HBCU would rather have young black people in debt just to attend college rather than have the best black intellectuals in America graduate from their institution..Sadly im coming to the conclusion that we as black people just hold each other and ourselves down in society at this point..
@gotmypearls
@gotmypearls Жыл бұрын
You believe this? College isn't free- there are employees and expenses just like everywhere else.
@whoozdis
@whoozdis Жыл бұрын
@gotmypearls from what he's saying it didn't matter about a person's GPA and what value they would bring to the school it only mattered about money money money..If we weren't so divisive and built together from way back then this conversation wouldn't even be happening in 2023
@negrodamus323
@negrodamus323 Жыл бұрын
Every college would rather have u in debt...not jus Hbcus.. Unless your on scholarship...u we be in huge debt after college
@prettymaitai
@prettymaitai 10 ай бұрын
Third ward native here !!!!
@atsimons1
@atsimons1 Жыл бұрын
Roland speaks nothing but the truth. Great Segment!
@andrejohnson1703
@andrejohnson1703 Жыл бұрын
BS Sometimes Roland's mouth is his biggest downfall since his days here in Chicago..
@rolandsmartin
@rolandsmartin Жыл бұрын
@@andrejohnson1703 bullshit.
@avonfettydale9166
@avonfettydale9166 Жыл бұрын
You can tell when Vlad isn’t interviewing based off the video length alone
@Rambunctious216
@Rambunctious216 Жыл бұрын
I went to college after joining the military (special forces) there was no way in hell someone was gonna abuse me. Drill Sgt. did enough of that.
@z040880
@z040880 Жыл бұрын
Pledging/ Hazing was actually started from fraternity members returning from the military fyi..
@Rambunctious216
@Rambunctious216 Жыл бұрын
@@z040880 FYI hazing has been around since the late 1700's
@z040880
@z040880 Жыл бұрын
@@Rambunctious216 yep but college black fraternities picked it up from military members
@taharqa332
@taharqa332 Жыл бұрын
@@z040880WRONG!!! You tried it tho.
@akeem2752
@akeem2752 Жыл бұрын
​@@z040880 but you clearly stated the huge difference one is military the other is school. Hazing in the military is to make sure you can be trusted and follow orders you can't make a navy seal by simply asking them to do push ups or to swim you have to test them in all aspects, the goal is to build a soldier ready to die fighting to win. College hazing serves no purpose, I'm not preparing for war, I'm trying to get a job🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️. Your comment was pointless and made no sense. Cats are the same as dogs in your brain I guess😂😂😂.
@k-way8471
@k-way8471 Жыл бұрын
Unc Roland on glad not this is what’s up Roland keep it solid
@ghyprh
@ghyprh Жыл бұрын
The problem is some frats/corps can't separate hazing from initiations.
@urexpressionsphotography1082
@urexpressionsphotography1082 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Roland 100%. My whole line dropped after big brothers got drunk then wanted to haze us! Not was going to happen!! I have never returned to that Fraternity! I have always said, how are going to try beat me and then want me to call U my brother.
@lovelyone98
@lovelyone98 3 ай бұрын
@urexpressionsphotography1082 You and your line made the right decision. That ain't no brotherhood. You are even more of a man for making the right decision not to join. Good for you.
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