The Inside Story | Undamming the Klamath

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Native American communities in the Pacific Northwest have led a decades long fight to remove hydroelectric dams that environmentalists say harm the migration of salmon. The Inside Story will examine the balance between helping wildlife and the need for more clean, renewable energy.
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@dannmarceau9743 Жыл бұрын

"We came here for the pursuit of happiness, and now we're being robbed of that." My family has been here for thousands of years; what about our happiness?

@brammutje15 Жыл бұрын

family that has been dead for thousands of years really hold no impact on todays situation. if you want sympathy for your people then also give sympathy to the people that came for the things promised to them. Im all for dam removal and restoring nature but you cant just disregard people involved lmao.

@adrianramone-ey9hi Жыл бұрын

@@brammutje15 Yes because their riverfront property is so more important than ecological restoring the land and the fish and protecting our environment their little property values and they're late front property so they can go out there and show off to their friends is so important

@WhamBang 11 ай бұрын

Wouldn't place too much stock in someone wearing a Faith Family Freedom shirt. Sturmabteilung-lite.

@shelbyng8703 7 ай бұрын

The precious reservoir water they're trying so hard to keep right next to their properties is at the same time being poisoned by the hazardous conditions that created the reservoir in the first place.

@adrianramone-ey9hi 7 ай бұрын

@@brammutje15 they don't own the damn they bought land knowing that this could happen so no I don't have to feel sorry for them they're a bunch of rich f****** who's got way too much money

@toolshed7652 Жыл бұрын

Remove the dams and bring back the beaver. They'll store all the water in a natural way as well as create ideal habitats for salmon and countless other species.

@ishicroy1176 9 ай бұрын

Yep they get washed out by snow melt in spring anyways!

@UNCIVILIZE 8 ай бұрын

Just WOW. I left Humboldt County in 1993 and returned a few years ago. I am beyond joyful to see that this very environmentally conscious area has continued to push forward. I'm just amazed to see the level at which restoration of the natural environment is happening with these dams coming down. Kudos to the tribes and environmentalists here. Let It Flow.

@mitchellmaytorena1137 4 ай бұрын

I’m in southern Oregon. We just blew a dam open a couple days ago and the landscape is literally changing in real time, right before our eyes. The reservoirs are shrinking into small streams, exposing landscape we’ve never seen before.

@Daniel-Weaver 4 ай бұрын

@@mitchellmaytorena1137 What are going to do for drinking water, growing food, power, fighting fires?

@Daniel-Weaver 4 ай бұрын

Let me guess,you live in a big city and drive a Subie?

@NorCalNeel 4 ай бұрын

You will be able to drink, clean water, from the Klamath, eat salmon from the Klamath, you can use Your solar panels for your electric car but you’ll need to talk to governor Newsom about Forest fires, snowflake

@RJ_MAGA Ай бұрын

@@Daniel-Weaver I wonder if the greenies use less electricity now too?? Or in a few years when there is a shortage cry that there are rolling blackouts.

@mitchellmaytorena1137 4 ай бұрын

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

I just spent 3 days at Copco lake. The lake was about half empty on Thursday. The return of the river will be wonderful.

@garettanderson6772 4 ай бұрын

Now your drinking water will be polluted with silt, and some wells may even dry up.

@johnkilty5091 4 ай бұрын

Nope!@@garettanderson6772

@TheFarmanimalfriend 3 ай бұрын

I live near Santa Cruz. I hate long drives. However, to see the Klamath flowing free, I will make an exception. In a year, when the 4 dams are gone I want to see it for myself. I have driven by on my way to Oregon before, but never stopped. I couldn't handle the hopelessness and despair of those people. Now I want to share in their optimism. Good job👍👍

@getrichquicc 10 ай бұрын

I gotta admire how determined people are to save a poisonous green lake

@pacjam418 10 ай бұрын

I said it resembled a swamp at times.

@adrianramone-ey9hi 7 ай бұрын

Yeah I mean it's ridiculous Oh let's forget about the bears and the salmon and all that other stuff let's save the green algae lake that we can't even swim in because if we do it's going to make us get diarrhea and maybe possibly die

@pacjam418 10 ай бұрын

Tough **** to the people that live on the lake. People are not going to stand by while an entire ecosystem is wrecked to please a small amount of people. Face it…the lake was not healthy anyway. It looked more like a swamp at times. Good for the tribal people and their help.

@susannerenner6464 Жыл бұрын

So inspiring and informative!

@KennyWatson-mu9to 3 ай бұрын

I Live along the upper Klamath River. Now that the Dams have been removed. It killed everything in it. The toxic Sediment has turned the River in a sewer. I don't know how it can ever Recover from this.😢😢

@ritamariekelley4077 Ай бұрын

The sediment isn't toxic. It needs to naturally return to the sea, where it nourishes sea life. Wait for Mother Nature to cleanse the river. the sediment is an important element.

@340wbymag 10 ай бұрын

Change will be painful for a few, but the benefits of river and stream restoration will be huge. Along with the restoration of salmon and steelhead to the rivers, great effort is being made to return beavers and to restore their habitat as well. It makes me happy in ways that words cannot express.

@user-he1lt8ex8t 4 ай бұрын

a few! big Joke... next winter where will you get energy for heat and such?

@lag9765 11 ай бұрын

It's hard to believe there are those who want to maintain the dams on the Klamath River despite the destruction and danger they pose.

@daniellemurphy9755 8 ай бұрын

Not really, they're just self-centered assholes - you can find those pricks all over the place, unfortunately...

@drinny26 3 ай бұрын

I can’t wait for an update.

@Alasdair37448 6 ай бұрын

If you think about it your either arguing for your "idealistic" idea of property value or your arguing for life itself. Nimbys literally being the enemies of all living things.

@randy9954 4 ай бұрын

As long as the hill nets are taking salmon it will never change

@Dogatemyhomework927 Ай бұрын

Can’t compare the Elwha River.. short and in a rainforest!!

@scottsam6960 6 ай бұрын

Salmon is life

@rickpetersen41 3 ай бұрын

Gill netting should be outlawed it isnt the traditional way off native salmon harvest.

@ryanhogue2917 4 ай бұрын

I am not really educated on this subject but do the tribes gill net? If so wouldn't that be part of the problem as well?

@alibarron7558 4 ай бұрын

They are allowed to take unlimited fish (supposedly for their people but it is widely sold in the areas).

@unboxinglife2308 3 ай бұрын

There is no limit on what they can take……

@ryanhogue2917 3 ай бұрын

@unboxinglife2308 there should be because I bet if theyban dip netting and gill netting they will see the salmon run increase annaully

@brigjack7789 3 ай бұрын

@@alibarron7558 this is false and racist. As a modoc/Klamath tribal member I can tell you we have hunting and fishing rights on our tribal land. We self regulate consumption in order to preserve the fish run. Unlike colonizers, we do not see the fish as profit. The fish is a gift from the creator and not an item to make money off of.

@brigjack7789 3 ай бұрын

@@unboxinglife2308there is a limit. Us tribes have rules and regulations on our fishing practices and limit what a person can take from the land. Only colonizers/settlers see the fish and river as their own property to abuse and make profit from. Tribes see the river and fish as gifts to take care of and ensure they will be here generation to come.

@koholohan3478 6 ай бұрын

They have to do beaver introduction on a big scale. Year one, they need to stab willow branches on the edges, also plants other tree species beaver eat, then once there a food source, get the beavers. They could maybe even start in the undamaged areas. The beaver will hold the water and also allow salmon upstream. Helping against drought and flooding. The beaver will regenerate the wetlands and also acting as a fire break and refuge for everything during fires. The benefits of the beaver are innumerable. These areas, current unde water, would have no humans to impact. It would be perfect. They could also bring in woody debris, which I imagine they will for restoration. I imagine there's already tons of woody debris trapped behind the dams anyways.

@Smegma_pirate 4 ай бұрын

Lol ok.. keep dreaming

@koholohan3478 4 ай бұрын

@@Smegma_pirate meanwhile burn scars and beaver riparian resilience is currently being studied in multiple states and being introduced and implemented on a big scale in said states. Dream come true ✅️

@jamaalwilliams2901 10 ай бұрын

How dare she say we come here for the pursuit of happiness, when Native American land was stolen from them while they died fighting for it. The nerve of people

@sw8741 10 ай бұрын

LOL They lost, just like thousands of other peoples all around the earth that have disappeared over 10,000 years of human history.

@NormaGallegos-ub4sf 6 ай бұрын

@@sw8741 LOL this is about UNDAMMING what was a Dam. They won, you nit. 1776 ain’t nuthin to ride on, but go right ahead.

@Daniel-Weaver 4 ай бұрын

What about Kennewick Man?

@LaserLuther 4 ай бұрын

Lol

@garysuplee5092 Жыл бұрын

Give back their fish 🐟 😪.

@dannmarceau9743 Жыл бұрын

Greedy opportunists destroy everything without giving it much thought.

@georgehaydukeiii6396 5 ай бұрын

Capitalism kills!

@Myrriah 4 ай бұрын

What is the floating crane thing called they use to tear it apart... ? That's dope.

@karlmckinnell2635 8 ай бұрын

I believe that referring to the reservoirs behind dams as lakes is perpetuating a false narrative. Lakes are a natural water body, reservoirs are man made.

@Daniel-Weaver 8 ай бұрын

How will these tree huggers charge their Teslas?

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

@Daniel-Weaver: Same place as last week. At a charging station or at home. In spite of you. Tree huggers have your best interests in mind. You just do know it yet.

@Daniel-Weaver 4 ай бұрын

@@johnkilty1419 Chicago, Buffalo, Edmonton?? Dead teslas everywhere. Hydro is about as green as you can get. Where's the power going to come from to charge evs? Solar? Not a chance . Lived off grid since 1995. Solar is not the answer. It can be part of the equation. It is not baseload power. It is boutique or artisanal power,like an expensive cheese or wine. And you cannot store AC.

@Daniel-Weaver 4 ай бұрын

@@johnkilty1419 We live on 40 acres of Doug fir,pine and cedar. White and black oak. I have improved these woods for 27 years. They will not charge your coal powered car.

@adrianramone-ey9hi 7 ай бұрын

Oh my God I'm not going to have late front property anymore whatever shall I do yeah I feel real bad for you I'm more worried about the salmon and the bears and the trees and the environment that I am your lakefront property

@peterdorn5799 10 ай бұрын

removing the Elwha is a success, I can see success with klamath dam removal

@WorldOfWonder66 Жыл бұрын

So where is the power going to come from now?

@know-body2519 Жыл бұрын

Starlink... The higher we go UP, the more electricity is in the atmosphere. It's a Nikola Tesla thing, we'll be fine.😊

@340wbymag 10 ай бұрын

Few places are better suited for wind and solar power than this part of the world.

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

Wind, Solar and other hydro dams.

@xwarrrmongerx22 3 ай бұрын

I have a bad feeling about this.. less water will be held back leading to more damage when the area is in a drought season. I find it odd how other states want to hold back water to increase in water table and introduce beavers to flood certain plains. To help with fires and drought but in this story it’s flow baby flow.. F them dams gotta save the salmon. Has there be a study about how much water is in the ground before and after a dam? I see wild fires take over the state more often and many more drought years.

@hopeofdawn 3 ай бұрын

Having a natural meandering river with tributaries and surrounding wetlands, especially if beaver are reintroduced, will do more to help the water table than a single reservoir ever would. There are tons of videos about how wetlands are recharging aquifers in arid areas - take a look.

@abcsandoval 6 ай бұрын

So.. 1) how many much is it going to cost? 2) How does removing this dam fit into the voters proposition to augment our water supply? 3) how many homes did that dam have capacity to serve at peak capacity? 4) How much are we paying for electricity from other states? 5) where is "dam removal" mentioned in the 2014 "Water Quality Service and Infrastructure Improvement Act (voter approved proposition 1)?

@georgehaydukeiii6396 5 ай бұрын

1) A lot less than it would cost to repair/maintain (That's why they are being removed!) 2) this question doesn't even make any sense! I don't remember seeing anything on any ballot about augmentation of water supplies.... 3) none of these dams supplied domestic water to any homes. 4) the Oregon, California, Nevada Washington power grid is all tied together. We get our power from different states at different times. These dams supply very little power and will not affect any of the customers in the grid. 5) Dam removal is mentioned throughout this document. You just need to read it and then you'd notice.

@abcsandoval 5 ай бұрын

@@georgehaydukeiii6396 just to address a few... #1 the utilities specified that the new regulations including disproven fishladders was what made it unprofitable. Left as it was before, it was not simply profitable, they were serving tens of thousands if homes with needed cost effective power. #2 The CA govt cited that proposition to say that calif voted for it. U yourself however affirmed it was not in the proposition. That water served much needed supplies when (not if) we have forest destroying crown fires. Conservationists know this, but political action committees have more control over our one party state than do citizens.

@georgehaydukeiii6396 5 ай бұрын

@@abcsandoval the fire fighting resources the reservoirs provide can be provided by the river after the reservoirs are gone. As far as the reservoirs acting as a fire break, that's debatable. When I used to fight fire for the KNF, I saw many crown fires spot over a mile away. As far as the rest of your arguments are concerned, this is an extremely popular project with people everywhere! It's only you and a small handful of people around the reservoirs that don't want to see the Klamath healed, and restored.

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

You are twisting facts. Fish ladders have never been disproven and are Federally required on all dams. Water does little to control fires. Water can be used to steer certain parts of the fire. But overall, fires just need to run out of fuel to extinguish themselves. Water will do zero on a crowning fire. If you are worried about forest fires. Replanting one species of tree after logging is a bigger problem that water supply. Bark beetles now with climate change have 10 months of hatchable month's compared to 2 to 3 months in the past decades. California has millions of standing Dead Doug fir trees that are all standing together in groups of thousands. Fire season last for 5 to 7 month compared to 2 to 3 months. A couple of small lake will not change that. @@abcsandoval

@IcelanderUSer 7 ай бұрын

It’s so arrogant for an American media company to use kilometers in a story about an American river, with an American audience, etc. just like the arrogance that built these dams.

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

Who cares?

@Unofelice Жыл бұрын

Any story about Klamath dam removal should acknowledge and honor the person who got it all going, that is, Ronnie Pierce, who is no longer with us. Instead, Frankie Myers promotes himself and his involvement which was real and good but which is not why the dams are coming down. Today's leaders should acknowledge those on whose shoulders they stand. Shame on Myers for not doing that.

@billsmith5109 11 ай бұрын

The key person in dam removal is Dick Cheney. When his intervention caused that huge chinook kill it was apparent that the dams were going to come out. I thought from this moment the dams were coming out.

@Unofelice 10 ай бұрын

@@billsmith5109 I believe that is not accurate. PacifiCorp decided to decomm the dams because, if relicensed with required fish ladders and inter-dam flows, they would have lost an estimated $24 mil;lion each and every year. For this reason, PacifiCorp decided to surrender the license and, with help from politicians at all levels (big contribution to Jared Huffamn), Buffett/PacificPower obtained a sweetheart deal to unload a non-productive asset at public expense. Corporate Welfare. So what else is new in the USA?

@user-su5lo8hr3c 4 ай бұрын

Great content but remove orange banner on the bottom of the screen it is to big ,you might as well make it cover the whole screen😂

@stephansteohanlarsen7457 Жыл бұрын

I'm from San Rafael Marin county San Francisco California. I've been to the Klamath Trinity, Eel. Magical place rivers. Mountains Ocean... Hoopa largest reservation in California. One planet One people One love One destiny 🍄🌹🇺🇲🍄🌁🍄🐟🍄🌍🍄

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

SanAnselmo hears you.

@stephansteohanlarsen7457 4 ай бұрын

@@johnkilty1419 Lost San Anselmo. _ _faiirdax. , Ross. Went to Terra Linda, then Cal poly aloo. Tucson Arizona Sonoran desert 🌵now. God bless Chief Marin and the Ewoks,,🌱🌱🍄🍄🐪🍄🐟🇯🇲🌍🪘🍄

@johnkilty5091 4 ай бұрын

Ahh! TL. I went to Archie Williams High Formerly known as Duhrake. LOL 79 Grad.@@stephansteohanlarsen7457

@biodivers5294 8 ай бұрын

Live with Nature, instead of against. Learn from the elders. And get out of your chair…

@OublietteTight 4 ай бұрын

If Salmon (supposedly) only return to their birth location there would be no bringing them back to such waterways? That theory sounds like ole knowledge/ junk science? I hope so. Let it flow. Let them thrive.

@johnisbell574 Ай бұрын

I guess living up to the treaty we signed with the Indians didn't matter

@deerinmyyard8430 5 ай бұрын

Salmon (or any fish) are "hatched" (from eggs), not BORN.

@jobiepatrick6150 8 ай бұрын

QUESTION, can you offer the people that will lose their water front a good piece of new river front property to ease the pain by 1/2, only seems fair👍? Unfortunately, they will lose the battle in the end, It’s too much money to keep these damns up. 😢 sad for some.

@deaddoll1361 7 ай бұрын

Dams, not damns ya goose.

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

Most of the lake residents will now have river front property. With a healthy clean river.

@martinginsburg7222 5 ай бұрын

1:36 "can generate clean hydro" Then you go on to point out all the negative aspects of the dams which are not clean. Building, maintaining is not clean. There is no clean energy so you contradicted yourselves in the same short video

@benibluefoe Жыл бұрын

Dams are not natural. Ifyou arrive for the "pursuit of happiness" who decided "your happiness" is more important than millions of years of natural development? Perhaps "your pursuit" should re-align with the real instead of aligning with the synthetic.

@dundonrl Жыл бұрын

Humans aren't natural, maybe you want them to be removed too?

@uhohhotdog 8 ай бұрын

Beaver dams are 100% natural

@shellysmith1037 Ай бұрын

So you believe Beavers are robots??

@uhohhotdog 8 ай бұрын

Build MORE dams. Store more fresh water. Green the desert. Stop wasting fresh water.

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

@uhohhotdog That, is a joke right? Green the desert? We need to stop farming in deserts. Farming is deserts is a total waste of fresh water. The entire Central valley in CA is an inland desert. So Is the Klamath Basin.

@uhohhotdog 4 ай бұрын

@@johnkilty1419 you need to educate yourself. You can sustainably green the desert.

@johnkilty5091 4 ай бұрын

Nice try! You need to educate yourself. If you were fully educated. You would know building dams just makes problems for the future generations to deal with. Factual and provable history show just that.@@uhohhotdog

@PixelSwitch7 Ай бұрын

@@uhohhotdog the desert is there for a reason

@uhohhotdog Ай бұрын

@@PixelSwitch7 yes because of a lack of water. Give it water and it won’t be one. 🤦‍♂️

@LaserLuther 4 ай бұрын

Government TV would never mislead you...

@craig0769 4 ай бұрын

And corporate TV always leads you to the truth right?

@LaserLuther 4 ай бұрын

@@craig0769 What's the difference? Lol

@dmsentra 11 ай бұрын

Why is a YT channel named Voice of America doing a story on the massive issue of dams destroying fisheries here, in America, and solely using kilometers as a measuring unit?

@pacjam418 10 ай бұрын

Yeah…the kilometers threw me off.

@deaddoll1361 7 ай бұрын

God forbid you have to convert, you're Americans. That's something that the 96% of the world's population that aren't dumb arse Americans does.

@IcelanderUSer 7 ай бұрын

The same arrogance that built these dams. We know better.

@febeomnibeepboop6367 4 ай бұрын

because its a measuring system that actually makes sense and can be used to calculate things without having to convert every step

@matthew3136 Жыл бұрын

Pacificorp should still be on the hook for the bill.

@adrianramone-ey9hi 7 ай бұрын

They're the ones paying for the damn demolishing I think it's like 10 million for all four dams to be destroyed

@user-he1lt8ex8t 4 ай бұрын

YES then we will have even higher electric bills just what I want, THANKS NOT!!!~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@velvetindigonight Жыл бұрын

Un dam the rivers. thormium nuclear energy provides cheap energy and little waste which cannot be used for weapons…..

@darrelljones9996 10 ай бұрын

If you think dams are only about energy you need to educate yourself...frankly I don't care if california gets rid of all their dams so long as they don't ask for water from other states.

@mgtowbylogic5592 11 ай бұрын

If you thought floods were costly in 1960 or 1930 or 1900, just wait for 2026

@georgehaydukeiii6396 5 ай бұрын

You have no clue what you are talking about. Do you know anything about the Klamath River system? Have you ever been there? Do you know anything about hydrology? The Klamath is unique. It doesn't have the big spring flows like many of the rivers on the west side of the coast range, Sierra's, or Cascades. A unique river. This project is well thought out and this river has been studied for a long long time. Please don't spread your ignorant misinformation. Thank you!

@LaserLuther 4 ай бұрын

@@georgehaydukeiii6396 misinformation lol

@georgehaydukeiii6396 4 ай бұрын

@@LaserLuther No sir. I live 10 miles from where this project is taking place and I have worked on this river for over 30 years. You sir are trying to spread misinformation !

@LaserLuther 4 ай бұрын

@@georgehaydukeiii6396 lol

@georgehaydukeiii6396 4 ай бұрын

@@LaserLuther it's hard to debate when you have no idea what you are talking about about. LOL is an appropriate response in your case.

@lag9765 11 ай бұрын

The returning health of the Klamath river will be an economic boom for the region... It's a no brainer...

@Smegma_pirate 4 ай бұрын

Said by someone who clearly lives no where near the dam

@garytrawinski1843 11 ай бұрын

I really hate politicians. They say the most stupid things.

@troyduren7092 Ай бұрын

Like to say, they're generate a little bit of power.You don't use them for water.Don't lie, the glacier keeps the river going.It'll just be cleaner water now

@eliasthienpont6330 2 ай бұрын

🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁LION c LIKE No. 831

@John-oz5xe 4 ай бұрын

have you built a fish hatchery on a river above Klamath lake? You should, you know. If you want the return of the salmon in a timely manner,

@alibarron7558 4 ай бұрын

After we have spent hundreds of millions to get the salmon back in the Columbia River, there still isn't any fish. Between commercial boats catching them and a ten fold increase in the number of seals eating them before they enter the river, all those millions has just been wasted. We had more fish before but not salmon. Salmon numbers hasn't really changed at all. Knocking down Klamath damns is going to destroy a lot of families income and lives and hard work that has been done for generations.

@brigjack7789 3 ай бұрын

Above Klamath lake were farms which caused massive run off that poisoned the lake to the point that no one has been able to step foot in Klamath lake for generations. 2009ish they restored the wetlands and got rid of farmers in order to bring back the ecosystem. It's working and slowly the lake is getting better. By removing the dams we can better help the flow of water.

@shellysmith1037 Ай бұрын

5yrs after the Elhwa dam was removed they still had not seen increase in salmon. The salmon on that river were a result of an increase in hatchery success not wild success

@alibarron7558 4 ай бұрын

How come anyone who thinks that removal is bad doesn't have their numbers shown on the thumbs down buttons? We all support the Voice of America, so all our opinions should be shown. This is just a crooked so-called environmentalist video. There are hundreds of "thumbs down" which are not shown. This video is just another bad idea passed by environmentalists living in Los Angeles and San Francisco who know all about the environment while never having left the city.

@randomdigits123 2 ай бұрын

It's KZfaq itself that removed the thumbs down counter on all videos a few months ago, the channel has nothing to do with it

@Dogatemyhomework927 Ай бұрын

This is a government funded channel… kinda makes it an untrustworthy source

@atomicdemise 9 ай бұрын

those Copco lake people :/ go buy some beach front property in FL, Desanto will welcome you with open arms

@chrisstaylor8377 Жыл бұрын

To bad you have to move ,the dam is only new the river is old ,the river will win get rid of the damsv

@wmoy8507 7 ай бұрын

Hopefully next year the salmon can reclaim their river.

@brianjohnston4207 4 ай бұрын

Next year? Try decades!

@daniellemurphy9755 8 ай бұрын

RESTORE BEAVER POPULATIONS!!!

@artseger6891 4 ай бұрын

Good now they can put up power plants.

@WorldOfWonder66 Жыл бұрын

I'm just not sure what to really think about it's going to change the ecosystem of hundreds of miles. Unfortunately not all of its going to be good. I honestly don't like the fact that it's a quote-unquote nonprofit who is in charge of this. There should be more transparency what most nonprofits will give.

@febeomnibeepboop6367 11 ай бұрын

400 million for a fish ladder, yea thats a scam. algea growth? be like the incas and build floating agriculture feild on top of it

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

Be like the Inca's? Pretty sure the Inca's suffered societal collapse in a huge scale. $400 million is probably right. The algea growth you are talking about killed every fish on the lake.

@febeomnibeepboop6367 4 ай бұрын

@@johnkilty1419 im pretty sure that the lakes around the city on which they cultivated their food is still algae free and has a rich biotope with fish, centuries after their society collapsed. im sure we will do better with plastics balls covering lakes of drinking water releasing for ever microplastics that are in our body and build up every meal and every drink. And paying 400 million because fish ladders are special, when its just a channel with water running trough it. the incas fell because of the spanish balkanizing the nations against the incas, very much like the different states in the us and nations in the eu, so this should make you aware that this society arguably starting at the time that federal banking started isnt going to last much longer

@user-kw6fu2vk3w 4 ай бұрын

Don't kid yourselves!!!! These dams are being removed because the financial benefit they once provided, logging and mining for example, is gone. And the powers that be see financial benefit in removing them. The salmon will be overfished and tourism along the river will further destroy the river. That being said, I support removing the dams, as long as the local indigenous people can reclaim and control their lands.

@chrisstaylor8377 Жыл бұрын

It’s part of your culture but you use modern boats out board motors ,your kids have no life jackets ,that’s not culture

@Daniel-Weaver 8 ай бұрын

And no fishing licenses.

@johnkilty1419 4 ай бұрын

They are not the Amish. Raise your own kids.

@koholohan3478 6 ай бұрын

Dams are not clean nor green.

@user-yx1zo6uz7j Жыл бұрын

One of the dams is in Klamath County, Oregon. Approximately 74% of the voters in Klamath County voted against the entire Klamath dam removal effort. That ballot also directed the Klamath County Commissioners to continue that opposition. Also the Elwa dam removal had many negatives that this mostly one sided, government funded video ignored. Numerous species are still negatively impacted, and some may now even be extinct. Keep in mind that the Elwa had good water quality, even with dams in place. The Klamath River water currently improves as it heads to the ocean, with dams in place .

@kurtdowney1489 Жыл бұрын

74% of voters are not really appreciative of nature. Name one negative of the Elwa dam removal. I dare you to say electric power.

@williamkreth Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Dams make the water of rivers warmer which is not good for salmon/sturgeon. We need to restore more natural salmon runs there are better places to build dams

@know-body2519 Жыл бұрын

Let's just hypothesize for a second. What if all their "global warming hype" is prepping for melting ice-caps (for whatever reason). Do you think dams are going to hold back water, or add to catastrophic results? Will we lose Hoover Dam to war with China? Will Hoover Dam be demolished (using the generator-fire months ago as cover?) Keep calm, love one another and buy a few sandbags. ❤

@bigjared8946 11 ай бұрын

They don't own the river just because it flows through their county and the negative effects of the dams go all the way downstream, far from their county.

@benibluefoe 11 ай бұрын

@Big Jared agree. Everyone impacted by the dam should have a vote. The trumpers should not have the biggest voice. Sadly, the ones most impacted: animals; fish; birds; vegetative growth; and the environment, have no vote.

@troyduren7092 Ай бұрын

I think the salmon and the river running wild is more important. Then you sit on your lazy a** the Native American people and the fifth or your comfort. You'll still be comfortable. You just gotta walk a little farther to the water. Or do you like me? I'm disabled. I ride my ebike to the river.