Voodoo 3 3333 - Custom Cooling Solution
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Күн бұрынI disliked my mod on this Voodoo 3 where I replaced the glued heatsink with a universal northbridge cooler. Leaving the card to be passively cooled is a bad idea since I overclocked this card, which originally was a Voodoo 3 2000, to 174 MHz at a core voltage of 2.5v. We are going to replace the heatsink today and add an active cooling solution so that we no longer need to worry about an overheating 3dfx card any longer.
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00:00 Intro
01:05 Active cooling
04:44 Fan header
05:33 Testing
06:17 Xinfrared T2S Plus thermal camera
09:39 Measuring temperatures
10:56 Macro lens
12:01 Conclusion
@1kreature 2 ай бұрын
None of the features are related to the camera btw... It's just the software on the phone. Old app was terrible. Glad to see they came out with a better one!
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
I haven't seen this feature in the other app - I might have missed those settings.
@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl 2 ай бұрын
As a regular happy user, I wouldn't call the P2 Pro App terrible. I've been able to do everything I needed so far and it's not overly complicated either. The new features in the Xtherm infrared App are really neat though, so I immediately checked if it recognizes the P2 Pro camera. Sadly, it does not.
@1kreature 2 ай бұрын
@@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl When I got my T3Pro (384x288 25fps) I ended up finding a forum where someone made a better app. I am still using that app. The forum was "Clean Unbox" they had a discord. They have a PC app as well which comes in very handy.
@GloriyaMack 2 ай бұрын
A video tested two phone thermal imagers, and the graphics processing was also impressive. That's AWESOME !!!!
@EmeliVilla 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered a P2Pro from another blogger, but it hasn't arrived yet. After watching your video, the T2S+ seems even better. Can't wait to get it and give it a spin!
@krzbrew 2 ай бұрын
The small camera handling case is so cute
@simontay4851 2 ай бұрын
No, its bulky and unnecessary.
@PeetHobby 2 ай бұрын
It may not be safe to connect a motor(fan) directly to the card power supply without proper protection for the back-emf of the motor(coils). While it might work temporarily since the small coils won't immediately damage the circuit, I wouldn't recommend running it like this for an extended period without the necessary safeguards in place. You should ensure there's already some sort of protection circuit close by the regulator, but I wouldn't count on it without double-checking. Considering the rarity of the card, you wouldn't want to risk damaging it. Edit: The protection could likely be as simple as adding a Schottky diode in reverse bias as close to motor plus and min.
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
Is there a resource I can read up on it? The fan is connected directly to the 5v supply voltage of the PCI slot. So, it is not taken from any internal circuit of the Voodoo card.
@thom_lapatate4842 2 ай бұрын
He connected the fan to the input of the linear regulator, not the output, which should be fine since 5v is supplied by the system's PSU
@thom_lapatate4842 2 ай бұрын
@bitsundbolts that's what I thought it should be fine since the system's PSU is often overbuilt for its use case
@SianaGearz 2 ай бұрын
@@thom_lapatate4842 I agree, i don't see an issue here.
@andycristea 2 ай бұрын
And also voodoo3 is not rare.
@angieandretti 2 ай бұрын
I ALWAYS active-cool my Voodoo3 cards. The method I prefer is to add a thin 50mm fan on top of the stock heatsink. Most V3-3000's have a rectangular aluminum cooler with four holes but only two of them are used to connect the cooler to the card - so I CAREFULLY remove the heatsink, tap the two unused holes, cut two bolts to the exact length needed to go through the fan and the heatsink without sticking out at all, and I reattach the combined unit to the card using modern thermal paste under the heatsink. It does block the adjacent slot but it works like a charm for cooling and it looks so much better than strapping any old 80mm fan over the heatsink with cable ties or rubber bands or whatever!
@aebtdom 2 ай бұрын
What a great video! Good solution to this flawed STB design. I was one of the lucky ones to have bought a voodoo 3 3000 back in the day from Powercolor. The Powercolor EvilKing 3. This is a completely different design and has active cooling by design. I still have it. It is a green board (most of them are yellow).
@RoyHess666 2 ай бұрын
I had a 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000PCI back in the days and simply strapped a 80mm fan to the PCB cooling everything, including voltage regulator. Still have it, somewhere.
@the_beefy1986 2 ай бұрын
Water cooling a voodoo next for BuB? :D
@phillycheesetake 2 ай бұрын
1:14 Small correction on "all" voodoo 3 cards being passive, the Powercolor Evilking 3 cards (both AGP and PCI, both 2000 and 3000) were actively cooled and have fan connectors. There were also a very small number of V3500's manufactured by Quantum3D which have active cooling, but they're virtually mythical at this point, you never see them. And if we're really going to go over every example of the Voodoo3, the integrated chips on the Packard Bell/MSI MS-6168, and some A-Trend ATC-6254 variants also had a fan. I have an Evilking PCI 3000, but the stock heatsink was missing it's fan. I replaced it with an Enzotech SLF-1 which has the benefit of taking standard 40mm fans, and the original heatsink is now the "backplate" sandwiching the chip. Another small benefit of the Evilking is that there is enough spacing around the BIOS to install a PLCC32 SMT socket.
@ruthlessadmin 2 ай бұрын
Once it's in a case with good airflow, you certainly wont have any issues with that solution. Nice mod!
@youtubasoarus 2 ай бұрын
Very cool mods! Great outcome.
@talos86 2 ай бұрын
Noctua have 5V fans with standard 3 pin or with adapter 2 pin connector. In your case a small 40x40 southbridge heatsink would be enough for the 40x40 fan. You could power the fan from a spare molex connector.
@napalmarsch 2 ай бұрын
as always Great Content
@Christian-ex8hy 2 ай бұрын
Mega Reaktion Video. Wirklich unterhaltsam zu schauen!
@Ale.K7 2 ай бұрын
Very elegant solution :-). That thermal camera is really cool!
@rodhester2166 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video.
@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl 2 ай бұрын
Isn't it mind-blowing how far we've come technology-wise? This level of analysis would have been prohibitively expensive (if at all possible) back when these cards were sold. These days, we're able to do it on a hobbyist level. 😅 Kinda like with drone vs. helicopter filming...
@clintcolombin 2 ай бұрын
I have a 50mm fan tied with wire to my v3 heatsink, powered by the chassis fan header on the mainboard
@jamesrdgrs 2 ай бұрын
This video is exactly what I'm trying to to with my Voodoo 3 3000. You just made it a whole lot easier! Where did you source the fan from?
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
I got them from AliExpress. They are quite common there, but I can provide a link. Just make sure to get the 5V version.
@jamesrdgrs 2 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts I take it's just your run of the mill VGA cooler with a 55mm hole spacing?
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that's correct. I think if you look for a 5v model, you'll find just a few options since most are 12v. And yes, 55mm is the only option I've found. 57mm doesn't really exist when I last checked.
@micheleocchionero 2 ай бұрын
A small case fan connected to a MB header and jerry rigged to the original heat sink resolved the overheating problem of my 3500TV (and of the entire pc). Your solution is indeed more elegant and I could have used it.
@masejoer 2 ай бұрын
I think this was about the era where people started doing case mods for side fans, and years later manufacturers picked up on the same thing. Extra cooling for videocards is what got us to the point where it seemed like every case had a fan in the side panel. In my situation, we wired up a 120x35mm AC-powered fan directly to the power supply's mains, and that could push something like 300cfm - it was insane for my little dual celeron BP6 with an agp geforce2mx and pci voodoo3 ;)
@KomradeMikhail 2 ай бұрын
I would have stuck with the 2-slot heatsink. Another card in the neighboring slot is going to block some airflow anyway.
@P2PC 2 ай бұрын
Would be interested in seeing if maybe the memory timings could be adjusted in the VBIOS. Maybe a video on fitting faster rated memory chips too. Awesome video!
@Christian-ex8hy 2 ай бұрын
Again a nice video. I would prefer a smaller cable for the fan.
@Baoran 2 ай бұрын
I just found screws that allowed me to screw a fan in the stock heatsink where the screws go between fins of the stock heatsink and I connect the fan power cable to a fan header on any motherboard I use it with. Generally voodoo 3 needs reasonably fast cpu to get full potential out of it so almost all motherboards that it would be good to use with do have fan headers.
@joaoc_PT 2 ай бұрын
Nice. In my 3 2000 AGP i just added a 50mm fan with screws. However, i should check the 3v voltage regulator if it has paste.
@curtissimmons1085 2 ай бұрын
back in the day i modified a p2 heatsink to fit a Voodoo 3 2000 made shims to contact the ram chips and put bigger fans on it. Ate 3 PCI slots. Friends said it was stupid. I fortold the future with that thing
@lindoran 2 ай бұрын
I know its like beating a dead horse at this point but what happens if you switch to a low ripple switching regulator (I think they make pin compatible alternative)
@ComicSanserif 2 ай бұрын
I had a cooling solution that worked on all components: drill a 80mm hole (actually, it was more like butchering the case with a blunt saw) in the side of the case, attach a fan, attach a 80mm duct and hang it out of the window. It worked beatifully but man it got cold in the room. Later on I got creative with fans and cable ties and duct tape. I wished I had known about voltage regulators (and available heatsinks for it) back in the day. Nice video, it brings back fond memories! Also a not-so-fond one where I glued a heatsink to my video card, decided I needed to rotate it just a few degrees and by doing so I twisted the entire chip right off the PCB. Brand new card, just a few hours old. Well, you try, you fail, you learn :)
@HorstGBurkhardt 2 ай бұрын
I'm at the point where I need to arrange myself a Voodoo3 of some variety, as I will never really use my Voodoo 1. Watching your modifications has been highly interesting, and I still have a three-pin-regulator replacement in the works that should eliminate that hot spot near the top of the card. Active cooling really is the sensible solution on these; the thing I've found is that many of the small 5v fans from China can get very noisy for some reason; I'd guess that not all run true rotationally and it's mechanical oscillation that's to blame. A solution in future might be to use one of the 5v-to-9v boost circuits that were once common on ethernet cards; and to run a quality 12V fan at 9V. Once I arrange my own Voodoo3 I'll have to see if I can't test that idea.
@myne00 2 ай бұрын
Might be worth checking the caps. Had an athlon mobo that had bad caps and the power transistors got super hot. Replaced. Cooled right down.
@Stratotank3r 2 ай бұрын
I added a big normal hight heatsink to my V3-2000PCI with thermal glue and some rubber pads for stability. Keeps it cool, noiseless and is much better than the stock crap from STB.
@kunka592 2 ай бұрын
I used zip-ties to secure fans to my Voodoo cards' heatsinks (V3 3000 and V3 3500, both AGP) and I connect them to the motherboard fan headers.
@Retro-Iron11 2 ай бұрын
I have a few of those cheap 5-12in to 1.2to 24v buck convertors. I would have used one of those along with a 12v fan. Those fans will typically spin between 6-12 volts. The convertor has a finger dial and voltage segment display. Could attach it to the back of the card. I probably would have also cut the blue heat sink you had down and put a delta 40mm or whatever on it.
@tony359 2 ай бұрын
Nice mod and nice camera! My camera is good but the software lacks the bits that competitors have.
@rootbeer666 2 ай бұрын
I wired my 5V fan to the 5V going into the regulator. It's neater this way.
@grindererrofficial3755 2 ай бұрын
all those "new features" i have in my old app for p2pro, lines , dots etc. You have to just turn on "proffi" option in setup
@Markworth 2 ай бұрын
We're still seeing temperatures over 40C. This is a massive failure. You need to add a bunch of those tiny, stick-on aluminum heatsinks. A super noisy Delta fan blowing air over head will help, too. Probably want at least 100CFM for that. It should be possible to get the voltage regulator to
@JamieBainbridge 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was a cheaper good thermal camera
@Rehbet 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the handle and USB cable is to isolate the camera from the heat of the phone for better range
@megan_alnico 2 ай бұрын
Would a switching regulator further reduce the total heat? I keep hearing about how great they are but I'm not sure if they are always a drop in replacement.
@NiPPonD3nZ0 2 ай бұрын
It would probably be a little bit wastefull, but designing a PCB thad could piggyback the regulator VCC and GND clip to the Open holes on the card and overhang just enough to have the fan connector would be a cool(ing) project! :-)
@LakeiAllen 2 ай бұрын
I'm a computer repair technician, and I also happen to own a P2pro. Just like you, I use thermal imaging to assess the heat dissipation of graphics cards.
@andreabc1469 2 ай бұрын
cool man
@robinenbernhard 2 ай бұрын
Next we go add RGB for extra power 😊
@GigAHerZ64 2 ай бұрын
I was waiting for the backside temperature measurement. That's the best way to see, what's the difference between those coolers.
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
There is a short section where I measure the temperature on the back of the card at 11:16
@GigAHerZ64 2 ай бұрын
@@bitsundboltsgot it! From wording I understood the old cooler value was shown there. But correct - even wires are visible. So the temp on the back side of the GPU went from 48 to 45C? That's great! And beautiful work as always!
@Aeduo 2 ай бұрын
Do you think the measurements might be tagged in photos taken or mixed in with the video or maybe dropped somewhere as csv or json or something?
@Constantin314 2 ай бұрын
such a cool and fun project, BuB! i have the same cooler for a passive cooled 9550 :) how's the -5v project going, the one for the sound cards?
@kokodin5895 2 ай бұрын
i would probably use angle grinder to shave some metal out of the fins on the back and install fan connector on top of the regulator still it is a much wimpier heatsink so i kind of expectet it won't work at all
@kevkabluebird1032 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if a fan, connected to the VR could introduce other small problems? Mayhaps some sort of induction? More ripple? Dunno.
@HazardXXX 2 ай бұрын
capacitor would fix it
@kevkabluebird1032 2 ай бұрын
@@HazardXXX True that.
@SidneyCritic 2 ай бұрын
Find some heat-pipes, 3D print a shroud/cover, and put a120mm fan in there - lol -.
@CompuforceWally 2 ай бұрын
I have done similar, but cooler power is derived directly from the PSU. Can you please explain why did you use power from the voltage regulator?
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
I wanted to have an integrated solution. This way, I only have to plug the graphics card and be done. There is no need to plug another cable to the power supply. That is pretty much it - no other reason
@awilliams1701 2 ай бұрын
I wonder what you could get out of the card with LN2 cooling. lol
@cricketol 2 ай бұрын
why not mod the voltage regulator so it uses less power?
@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 2 ай бұрын
is this an infrared camera ad?
@R.Daneel 2 ай бұрын
I almost suggest this as a joke; but have you tried Peltier cooling? You could get the processor near zero Celcius. Let's see how fast you can go ;-)
@KevinSills 2 ай бұрын
Why would anybody mod this card to power a fan when you can use a "3 pin to molex adapter"???
@SouthPlanObservation 2 ай бұрын
Grüß Dich, Ich habe dir damals die voodoo 3 geschickt. Ich wollte die Tage meine Voodoo 2 PCI benutzen und leider war nichts zu machen. Meinst du, du könntest da auch mal drüber schauen? Die bräuchte ich dann allerdings wieder. 😂 Dank dir schonmal.
@bitsundbolts 2 ай бұрын
Hallo. Ja, ich kann mir die Voodoo 2 gerne mal ansehen - kontaktiere mich bitte per e-mail (bitsundbolts at gmail punkt com). Wenn du deine Voodoo 3 im jetzigen Zustand wieder möchtest, können wir das auch arrangieren. Ich glaube, ich bin mit der Karte endgültig am Ziel angekommen :)
@vitaobatera 2 ай бұрын
11:26 - You still don't tell how well the fan cools the chip itself, vs the passice cooler.
@rubberduck4966 2 ай бұрын
The measurement from the backside of the card tells this.
@tristankordek 2 ай бұрын
🙂👍
@markb2929 2 ай бұрын
It sucks you get infray cameras free when I had to pay more than £300 for mine.
@danielflakelar8193 2 ай бұрын
what a shame. another overpriced camera given to a youtuber to get suckers. I mean all the subs to buy it. Video would have been alot better without the crap camera
@PJBonoVox 2 ай бұрын
This product placement is everywhere. There are only a few channels left that don't do it. Shan't be watching this channel again.
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