Comparing the Vortex PST Gen2 1-6 to its famous big brother, the Razor Gen2 1-6 E. Military use of PST discussed here: www.defensereview.com/tactica...
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@FromTheShelves2 жыл бұрын
This dude single handedly saved me 600 bucks. You sir, were the hero we needed.
@TacticalAccountants2 жыл бұрын
That’s what we’re here for
@pat5542 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalAccountants Second this comment. Answered any question I could have thought of. Thank you sir
@adibee883 жыл бұрын
THIS has to be the MOST THOROUGH Comparison I've ever seen! Thank You for your HOURS invested, diligence, accurate testing basis and variety of environments! Amazing Work; PST it is!
@MattChat563 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best breakdown video I have seen. Answered my questions perfectly. Thank you.
@jantonie4203 жыл бұрын
So what did you go for
@Daniel083533 жыл бұрын
He lacked consistent on some of his comparisons; it they were well enough to show just how marginal their differences are. I liked his effort.
@madeintexas12133 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel08353 I take it you bought a razor?
@Daniel083533 жыл бұрын
@@madeintexas1213 I bought the Vortex. It’s marginal on differences. I won’t use it 300 times a year, to find that “little bit” of difference worth my while. I use a chainsaw a ton - so I bought a very reliable professional: since I use it so much, and find “that little bit” of difference very worthwhile.
@themann46333 жыл бұрын
Viper PST is fully suitable for 99.99% of CONUS users. Save the money and buy the ammo to TRAIN. Tacticool guys fail to realize that "operator" equipment does not make them better shooters, it just makes them look stupider when they fail to perform in front of actual operators. Perfect training makes perfect.
@johnbowden95784 жыл бұрын
Great review sir! Bought two PST rather than waiting. Wife is very happy.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
John Bowden Two is one and one is none ;)
@clockworkbadger23633 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better equipment reviews I have seen on youtube, and I watch a TON of reviews. Very useful info! Thank you!
@dmisov3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I was drooling over the Razor. This video makes me feel like I didn't just "settle" for the viper i ordered today. Made me feel good. Thank you!
@xj27362 жыл бұрын
Man I am so thankful for the time and effort you took to take a deep look into these scopes. Not only do you help us learn, but you help us make a well informed decision. I was really planning on going for the Razor especially for the cool color but I cannot deny the quality of the PST for the price point. It was such a shock to see the clarity of the eye sight chart at 50 yards. Thank you!
@mr.excitement6893 жыл бұрын
I do love how the razor makes everything seem to disappear vs knowing you’re looking through a scope. Great review. Liked and new sub.
@D_KimRaiders3 жыл бұрын
Got the Viper as the Razor was out of my price range and could not be happier. Great review!
@HoneyBadgerB2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time on the one. Been torn between holding out for a "better" optic but after that I have confidence in the PST.
@duckhunter46603 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best optic review ever!! And it was between two optics I am considering. Thank you very much!!!
@sniperwiper093 жыл бұрын
you nailed this video, this has every bit of information needed to make an informed choice, with linked sources and no fluff, audio and video are both great for a small channel too other a little reverb from no sound dampening but thats picking nits, keep it up and youll go far bud, thanks for the show and tell.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Bladed Fingers Working on improving the audio going forward. Thanks for watching and for the constructive criticism.
@toriushauser71433 жыл бұрын
Outstanding effort to compare the two! Great work
@bigmike7162 жыл бұрын
You saved me $600. I bought the PST gen 2 and haven't regretted it once. I LOVE THIS OPTIC!!! Thanks again brother!
@mborski8721 Жыл бұрын
2 years later.....my PST is on the way. One of the best reviews I've seen on the PST. Thank you
@anthonyjose56447 ай бұрын
You did an amazing job with this video especially with night shots this is what I want to see. I greatly appreciate it
@thehilliardarmory60413 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video dude. So glad I stumbled upon it. Now I know which route I’m going with my SD setup. Thank you so much for uploading!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@SabertoothDefenseSystems2 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown! It wasn't convoluted with all kinds of fluff. Simply a comparison between the two with excellent footage. Subscribed.
@joelj39713 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison between these two scopes, thx for a great video!
@ricksters113 жыл бұрын
Nice review, well thought out and helps me make a better decision as I am leaning towards a new optic. Budget is always the biggest consideration for the regular guy like us, living in that 80-20 world!
@mattsterpiecenjmaflva99563 жыл бұрын
Great review. I just bought my second PST 1-6 today 😎🤙🏻
@Ashurus3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and thanks for digging up that Vortex forum post where they say the Viper is 85-90% of the Razor!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's a good thing I found that post after recording most of the footage. Otherwise I might have thought the video wasn't worth making since Vortex themselves said what I wanted to.
@HugoStiglitz10003 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. Thank you for helping me make my decision Tactical Accountant! SUB
@Ajbuck682 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful. Thank you so much for the thorough comparison!
@viaoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Earned a sub for this amazing comparison. Thank you for your hard work on this video.
@jahbuny Жыл бұрын
Old review but gah damn this needs more likes. Thank you so much for putting this together sir
@GoDucks.20013 жыл бұрын
10/10 review my dude. You've got a new subscriber.
@jjsgame76833 жыл бұрын
Dude~ Thanks for this review, and I'm so satisfied with my VST now.
@jakemerica3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison and review. I'm in the market for my first LPVO. The PST is definitely high on my list.
@Golgafrinchamdent2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, thankyou for taking the time.
@Absdrakt3 жыл бұрын
Dope review man, this one really helped me out a lot on making my decision. PST it is !! I like to stay in that mid-range area of budget and quality. The PST fits the bill
@farmernat653 жыл бұрын
I have both and I agree with you 100%. Only thing you didn’t mention was that the PST does have noticeably shorter eye relief on 6x than 1. Unlike the razor which the eye relief stays consistent throughout the magnification range. Also the eye box on 6X is noticeably better on the razor. If I was to sum it up in one sentence, I would say the PST is better on 1x and the razor is better on 6x.
@khann8442 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. I was trying to decide between the viper 1-6 or the Trijicon credo 1-6 and your video helped me more then any other on you tube so thanks!
@TacticalAccountants2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome. If you haven’t already, check out the Delta Stryker HD 1-6. We are testing one now. It looks like a very compelling alternative to other 1-6 LPVOs
@AmokBro22 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Very informative and helpful.
@arobinson16022 жыл бұрын
Really well balanced review and good user color beyond the numbers you can pull off the Vortex site - thank you!
@mjhac26853 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude, really helped my decision, thanks man!
@steveg35933 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison video. Good job!
@SOCMMOB Жыл бұрын
What a great comparison and an amazing video. Why did it take so long for me to stumble on it?! I’ve been looking at LPVOs for a loooong time
@LARPeratorsAnonymous4 жыл бұрын
I was one of the poor souls who ordered the Viper PST Gen II the first week of July. The estimated ship date is 9/30 😭. I have played with the razor at my lgs, never the viper. Excited to get my hands on it. This review made me even more excited. Thanks man!
@TacticalAccountants4 жыл бұрын
Anytime! You're right to be excited. I didn't realize just how great it was until I had a chance to compare to the Razor.
@fisherofmenmatt41942 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is when it comes down to this level, small improvements are very costly to obtain.
@ChaseBerry2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing review and comparison. Subscribed!
@mrwaddahshooter3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Underrated channel
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Why thank you. We agree. Not that we're biased or anything.
@RichM04103 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your time invested and then sharing the info is greatly appreciated. I felt all along you’d go with the pst. Razor to rich for my blood. Lol Thank you!
@chatnasty3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent comparison. I would have liked to see the comparison of the illumination in a daytime setting.
@jasoncuda8910 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you for your time and effort. Peace brother.
@jam007233 жыл бұрын
Dude, what a great review. Awesome job.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@a.c.niyikiza86253 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly demonstrable and qualifiable comparison 👏🏾. Best I’ve heard or seen. I have a strike eagle 1-6x I snagged for $300 and after this review I’m questioning my choice 🤦🏾♂️. It is my introductory LPVO.
@Interpolation19112 жыл бұрын
Strike Eagle is awesome for the price! Good choice. I have the 1-8 on my DDV7 Pro. I recently bought the PST VIPER for my DDM4A1.
@a.c.niyikiza86252 жыл бұрын
@@Interpolation1911 Thanks man, I appreciate it. Is the extra 2x magnification much helpful? If so, at what ranges have you found it to be?
@Interpolation19112 жыл бұрын
@@a.c.niyikiza8625 My eyes are not the greatest so i would say the extra 2x is good at 100-125 yrds. I know it can go 150 with no issues.
@frankopanklaric2 жыл бұрын
Strike eagle is good. It is recommended for a reason.
@OrinVII4 ай бұрын
I am the proud owner of two PST's. One for my 8.6 blackout and one for my supressed 300 blackout. By far the best optic in my collection. Can't beat the value you get for $500! Thanks for the great review dude!!
@thomasbrown93133 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review man
@duncan69873 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen on this optic. Probably gonna buy a viper because of you. Thanks!
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Dustin Duncan You’ll love it.
@556ChannelHD3 жыл бұрын
WOW, you did the damn thing. Nice evaluation!!
@ibonihs3 жыл бұрын
dude EXCELLENT video. good job
@theoldculture216 Жыл бұрын
So glad I seen this. I looked at the Vortex strike eagle 1-8x24 ffp and the Viper 1-6x24. Looked at both and will say the the Viper destroyed the strike eagle. Thank you for the information sir.
@jakek71123 жыл бұрын
Awesome work man I’m subbed!
@sc71453 жыл бұрын
Great review you sold me on the pst.
@BB-ly3dh3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I have the viper, love it. And it does draw ligh very well at night, i was pleasantly suprised, thought that it wouldnt b great since it is a 24mm
@oskarbernstrom1519 Жыл бұрын
What a great review! Thanks man :)
@randomstuff03312 жыл бұрын
Awesome review man. Thanks you.
@osoaerense2588 Жыл бұрын
You should be paid to do these reviews. VERY thorough. Love it. Will forward on to friends.
@M81Mojo3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review
@padgettproductions16943 жыл бұрын
Keep putting this kind of content out
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
Will do! Working on something similar.
@divejumpshooter69473 жыл бұрын
I feel the same I have the both I had the Viper and went with a Razor for m other rifle thinking hmmm it'll be at least 2x better. It is great, I am keeping it but if I ever decide to replace my ACOG which I have for sentimental reasons (I think) since we used it in my unit. I'll go with the Viper. I'll also say after using everything from Elcan to Aimpoint, Eotech, Trijicon etc to the Vortex type sights the LPVO is my go to optic. The ACOG and the LPVO sights are truthfully the only optics that give me a CQB through 300 yard significant improvement in acquisition > shot > accuracy/time over Iron sights which I used for many years before optics became popular.
@nathoniel01 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Excellent and informative.
@odyssey8883 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@HoneyBeagle2 жыл бұрын
Just snagged a pst 1-6 tonight. Great first impression and this video sure made me feel better about not having razor money to spend
@beauberger17932 жыл бұрын
I had the razor in my cart. Went to check out and it was sold out. I was so bummed because it was available for just under 1000 new with the BDC reticle. At the time, I thought well what about the viper.... so I ordered it..... and this video confirmed my hopeful research.
@1unkn0wn4 жыл бұрын
Great Comparison! Thank you :)
@jki808 Жыл бұрын
No shit you’re called tactical accountants. Just saved me a lot of time and money on tactical gear. That shot of you under a blanket watching the sopranos with the scope was enough for a subscribe.
@ShooterMedic18183 жыл бұрын
This was a great review
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
ShooterMedic Thanks!
@themann46333 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your analysis legit.
@ridehi80832 жыл бұрын
great video and review. thank you.
@skoolynugenator18022 жыл бұрын
The disappearing bezel is a selling point I think for me. I mean it’s a red dot with six extra power. I think that quality of the razor is astonishing. And right now the heavier version is 900 in places. That’s only 300 more and I think worth it. Going to put it on my POF revolution pistol. Think that should be a deadly deer hunting combo.
@MotoJB Жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks!! I'm a Razor Gen II owner looking for another LVPO...was struggling to "settle" for the PST on my other build but after watching this, not as much. The cost difference between the PST and a Razor, is about $450 at this time, and that $450 buys a mount and a backup 45 degree RDS to go with the PST. No brainer it seems. The only things you didn't cover was eye relief and eye box between the two at 1x and 6x. That's another huge consideration...and once you go Razor, looking through something that has a thicker, noticeable bezel, might be tough.
@frankopanklaric4 жыл бұрын
I went with the PST. You have convinced me. I just couldn't justify the price of the razor to myself. All that leftover money can go to ammo and training in general. I hope I won't regret my decision.
@frankopanklaric4 жыл бұрын
Update: I'm very happy with my purchase. I couldn't imagine paying double for a minor upgrade. Especially with performance as good as the pst.
@dn51012 жыл бұрын
I'm was going today for a viper, but not anymore. Thank you very much
@2aphilosophy2444 жыл бұрын
This is a very helpful review. I just got a Viper PST Gen II (MOA reticle) and i'm very happy with it. Also, that article you linked to is super interesting. If its good enough for SF, its good enough for me lol.
@outrider6 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Review!!! Thank you sir.
@sleekfast112 жыл бұрын
A few comments....1) thankyou for the detailed review...appreciate it, 2) Don't think you mentioned that both optics are 2nd focal plane (SFP), 3) I don't know why youtube reviews like your's don't also include a segment viewing customer comments about the optic on manufacturer's website and addressing them....for example, customer comments that pst 1-6 "eyebox eye relief" wasn't good...meaning that a slight change in alignment of eye to just a fraction off center made it really difficult to use optic. Don't know if this is normal, but I know it's something I want to be informed about before I pay the $$$,
@joshuareed39992 жыл бұрын
If Vortex put a better reticle in the PST I'd buy 2-3 tomorrow. I have a PST ii 5-25, and love the thing, but I really like the JM-1 BDC reticle in the Razor. Less thinking involved. Better yet- borrow some ranging ideas from Primary Arms and give us something with a lifetime warranty that offers the advantage of being able to calculate distances without math. I know... I know.... shoot enough to become proficient with a standard mil based reticle. I'd rather let the reticle do it for me. Thanks for the great review of these optics!
@SpaceBanana693 жыл бұрын
Sold just ordered one for my Daniel defense
@mikecarey14243 жыл бұрын
I have a pst gen 2 for a long gun, it holds up great. What sold me was watching a video where a guy took one and threw it out a car doing 80k mounted it back on and it kept zero.
@Patman99663 жыл бұрын
Great review!!!
@themerryprankster96473 жыл бұрын
When the pst offers the JM reticle I will be more than happy to buy it. I have, to be honest, Been waiting for Vortex to offer that option.
@milleniallgt97152 жыл бұрын
Thanks man you just saved me alot of money!! was gonna pay 1400 for the razor but i dont think so anymore!
@nattybumpo43842 жыл бұрын
She's heavy, but every time I look thru the PST I feel validated. Great review!!
@pehenry3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Thanks.
@fabiomillerphs2 жыл бұрын
Clever idea with the eye chart.
@cameronw.43693 жыл бұрын
Before purchasing my viper I contacted vortex customer support to ask a few questions. The guy I talked to said guys overseas often buy vipers when they're spending their own money to get the optic.
@snapontoolreviewАй бұрын
Great review very impressive
@higherlifts4202 жыл бұрын
Ordered a uh-1 gen 2, then canceled for the razor gen 2 E. Can't wait to get it.
@Matt-dd3cw2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video bro. I have a Gen 2 razor 1-6 E-Series, had been debating if Viper 1-6 was good enough for a backup rifle, clearly seems like it is. Thanks again! Eurooptic has the demos for $499 right now
@itsrass1378 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about get the razor HD gen 2 1-6 because it only $1000 msrp now because I’m im willing to pay for quality
@Matt-dd3cw Жыл бұрын
@@itsrass1378 I ended up buying both. The Viper 1-6 is on a backup rifle, the razor 1-6 is clearly superior to me. I'm actually looking to buy a 1-10 razor right now for a different rifle
@itsrass1378 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-dd3cw I have been thinking about it and will end up with both but in the next few months im getting eotech exps3 for the rifle I have now and will build another rifle for midrange shooting.
@dreamit.buildit2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video very helpful. If you are open to a little constructive criticism I will say audio quality on the video with the echo sound is hard to listen to. Thanks and great information.
@raudi4 жыл бұрын
i sold my razor to buy 2 vipers. best decision i made in a while.
@ShooterMedic18183 жыл бұрын
Haha nice dude
@texko42683 жыл бұрын
What LOL You are😂😂😂
@edwardlilley17053 жыл бұрын
Nah fam. Nah
@whopperpreciado26283 жыл бұрын
Just as good don’t listen to the haters
@edwardlilley17053 жыл бұрын
@@whopperpreciado2628 jUsT aS gOoD
@giovannicastro80522 жыл бұрын
Good vid! 🤙🏼
@markdavidson10493 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video.
@jcravoc42232 жыл бұрын
Hey bro Army medic here. 8years active been deployed multiple times with some sf units, I’m not sf myself but had the luck of being in the right places at the right time. Anyway take my word however you want but I can tell you right now the reason the razors are so much is because of the military contracting. The razors, just like KAC and ACOGs, they don’t really actually provide more for the money. These manufactures just know that while they have the contract they can up the price and 1- the military will still pay for it. And B- civilians will want to look like the military so they will complain and then still pay for it. I know this because I built a true (minus funswitch) m4 clone down to the peq15. I have been wanting a razor 1-6 but only seeing the 1-8. Good thing I found this review now I know to just get a pst and cerakote it that high speed bronze lol. 👍👍👍
@kelseyarnold65573 жыл бұрын
Long story short I traded some gear I wasn't 100% happy with for a razor 1-6 and I'm glad I did, love the razor! I recently purchased the viper 1-6 so I've got both. If it weren't for the shop willing to trade frankly I'd have stuck with vipers all around. Both are phenomenal optics.
@46dgarrison3 жыл бұрын
The razor quality feels a million times better than my viper. The cheap feeling illumination knob drives me crazy for the price. The turrets feel solid even though they aren’t nearly as smooth as the razors. The glass is by far the best part of the viper.
@kelseyarnold65573 жыл бұрын
@@46dgarrison yes sir, the razor is legit. To be frankly honest I no longer have the viper. Upon mounting it and actually going thru some drills and practice the 1x was messing with my eyes meaning it had something like 1.5x and would present a double image. With respect to vortex I think I just got a lemon. I returned the viper and tried an aimpoint pro and I may try the viper again in the future but I really like the pro for now.
@DRay-or4tc2 жыл бұрын
Very good review.
@nhwnhw02 Жыл бұрын
Own several of the Viper PST Gen II. They are super clear. Was always Leupold only previously. Couldn't find anything like wanted in a low power variable. Tried one of these on a compact bolt action. At first thought I didn't like the light adjustment relative to the Leupold FireDot. Then with use realized it was so much easier than having to cycle through all the settings to go the other direction. With the Vortex just turn the dial. Off is between each setting. Changing the battery isn't as elegant on the Vortex. Be sure the threads are aligned before tightening. The power adjustment ring is stiff on one PST and not at all on another. Just buy a throw lever ring that is easily mounted.
@TheYemcl3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a review, or can you do a comparison vid, on optics in the (roughly) 2-10X range? This was a refreshingly honest, precise, and helpful review. Subbed.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
We don't have a video specifically on that zoom range but our recent 10/22 scope video might be of interest to you. For what it's worth, I am a big fan of the Vortex PST gen1 2.5-10. Tactile turrets, good glass, and one of the lightest optics in that zoom range with illuminated reticle. Vortex warranty is tough to beat too. Thank you for the kind words.
@elias87203 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! This is a very honest oppinion. I just went and bought the Viper PST Gen2 and used it a litte. It is a great scope, the glas quality is incredible, also is the field of view. The redicle is indeed daylight bright. Negative things are the weight. That scope is heavy. Also the magnification adjustment ring is very stiff. you cant really turn it without a lever. All in all the PST Gen2 ist, i think the most bang for the buck scope on the market. Sure there a better scopes like the kahles k16i, but they cost about 1000 Euro more. Add to 2:30: The fact that the housing rim disapeares is nice, but pretty useless if you use vortex flip caps, which i and most of people do.
@TacticalAccountants3 жыл бұрын
The disappearing rim phenomenon is much less noticeable in person with both eyes open, also.