Vote SADIQ Khan & PUNISH Labour?

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Ай бұрын

In this special Islamic Thoughts contribution Dr Salman speaks to Shaykh Dr Haitham al-Haddad to answer the question on many Muslim Londoners' minds: who do we vote for in the the upcoming mayoral elections?
They discuss broader strategies for weighing individuals and candidates in light of Islamic principles, as well as practically what Muslim Londoners should do on Thursday.
0:03 The big question
0:55 One big mistake: don't vote based on emotions
1:41 The premise is wrong
2:31 Turkey's example: they wanted to punish Erdogan
3:49 Punishing by itself is not enough
4:32 Pushing one can be rewarding another
4:59 An Islamic principle
6:49 London Mayor options
7:25 How to evaluate a candidate
8:13 Evaluate the other candidates
9:09 What about independents or the Green Party?
9:39 There's a better way to punish Labour
10:15 The Muslim Vote campaign
10:45 Sadiq Khan's policies and weaknesses
12:11 LGBT ideology
12:26 A close two-horse-race
13:10 London is a hub for Palestinian demonstrations
14:10 The establishment doesn't want opposition
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@iainrae6159 28 күн бұрын

Voters should think for themselves and not be influenced by religious clerics or 'community spokespersons '.

@user-ch2gk6dv8k Ай бұрын

This is a very poor account of politics. I would suggest you ask someone who knows politics. Its not the realm for most islamic scholars.

@Epicgeezer 28 күн бұрын

We are not an Islamic nation. If that is what you want - then ✈️ is waiting

@AkiHayche Ай бұрын

I don’t think punishing labour is an emotional decision. It’s a logical one based on long term changes over short term impact.

@BlueBlue23 Ай бұрын

But then again...what if conservative takes away of rights to demonstrate???

@AkiHayche Ай бұрын

@@BlueBlue23 my reply was more to the point of “emotional decisions” by our beloved sheikh. I’m personally not too apposed to voting for Sadiq in the Mayoral elections as they’re different to the general elections. And I think his policies are overall better than most of the other parties running and the greens have very little chance of winning. I would note that Sadiq khan himself is a memeber for the Jewish Labour movement which itself is a zio lobby group.

@TheFlyingClutchman Ай бұрын

@@BlueBlue23vote independent

@Logia1978 27 күн бұрын

@BlueBlue23 If conservative win, perhaps next time labour will think twice....

@sushi9211 Ай бұрын

why are you basing your vote on how much someone supports a country across the globe, its a vote for the mayor of London?? is it not, i know its terrible what's happening but yeah.

@user-xh8ui7hw1u Ай бұрын

Why is an influential Muslim pro LGBTQIA? Is he a role model for our children?

@heisenberg9739 Ай бұрын

He doesn’t represent us Muslims lol

@DarthMarr2009 Ай бұрын

Isnt it ethical though?

@nikkijayne4451 29 күн бұрын

Because he's integrating into the country? More of you should try it. Or move...

@abdulmateenkhandoker1986 Ай бұрын

Sadiq khan the man who keeps a dog hes just as same as them muslim by name

@adamali2886 Ай бұрын

can someone please tell me what have the protests done

@ThePixey1000 28 күн бұрын

@adamali2886 Absolutely nothing.

@parvezshahidi4783 Ай бұрын

Sheikh did you hear about the growing Workers Party?

@anothergoogleuser4915 Ай бұрын

Are you that stupid? Do you honestly believe the Workers party will give out blank cheques to charities and Muslim organisations affiliated with these individuals? Labour is the only party to give blank cheques to community leaders, grassroots Muslim organisations, in return for a Muslim vote bank. It's all about the money. Why would Haitham Kerching Haddad endorse the Workers party ?? The Tories whilst also following the liberal Marxist secular rainbow agenda, are only followers. If it was a case of lesser of two evils they still had some Christian values. Sadly there all in a race to the bottom to please their corporate lobbyist masters. The beginning of my reply was intended as a shock wake up, as so many are blind to the knif3 in our backs from our own. They use our issues to enrich themselves and give themselves self importance. Islam21c has banned my comments so many times. Hopefully this one goes under the radar. The main comments were banned a few years ago when I asked them how the money they were begging for the Uigher brothers would reach them, my comments were removed. The small print was the donations were for raising awareness by spending on banners & protests. Sheep they happened to protest outside the Chinese embassy at the same time Nancy Pelosi angered China by flying to Taiwan. Muslims being manipulated and used as sheep by these Greedy Misguided self appointed fools.

@eIucidate Ай бұрын

They're not standing for the Mayoral Election.

@mohammedabdirrahmanrubblei9141 Ай бұрын

I disagree with the sheikh. I'm not voting Labour, nor am i helping a worse alternative. As it stands, Labour will defeat conservatives but let them without majority. We'll punish them, InshaAllah

@anothergoogleuser4915 Ай бұрын

You dare to disagree with this Guy ??? How dare you think for yourself and outside of the deceptive framework/closed narrative offered. Who else will give out the blank cheques to charities and Muslim organisations affiliated with these individuals? Labour is the only party to give blank cheques to community leaders, grassroots Muslim organisations, in return for a Muslim vote bank. It's all about the money. Why would Haitham Kerching Haddad endorse the Workers party ?? The Tories whilst also following the liberal Marxist secular rainbow agenda, are only followers. If it was a case of lesser of two evils they still had some Christian values. Sadly there all in a race to the bottom to please their corporate lobbyist masters. The beginning of my reply was intended as a shock wake up, as so many are blind to the knif3 in our backs from our own. They use our issues to enrich themselves and give themselves self importance. Islam21c has banned my comments so many times. Hopefully this one goes under the radar. The main comments were banned a few years ago when I asked them how the money they were begging for the Uigher brothers would reach them, my comments were removed. The small print was the donations were for raising awareness by spending on banners & protests. Sheep they happened to protest outside the Chinese embassy at the same time Nancy Pelosi angered China by flying to Taiwan. Muslims being manipulated and used as sheep by these Greedy Misguided self appointed fools. Some of this reply has been copied and pasted incase the other one was deleted by islam21c.

@mohammednur747 Ай бұрын

Maybe shaykh knows something we don't know. End of the day, you want to call him whatever name you want to call him, his still muslim and it would be far worse under a non muslim

@mohammedabdirrahmanrubblei9141 Ай бұрын

@mohammednur747 Oh, no, I'm not talking about Sadik Khan. I'm actually talking about the general election. Hence, that's why i said they will win the election.

@abdullahX001 Ай бұрын

Not voting IS a vote.

@parvezshahidi4783 28 күн бұрын

@@mohammednur747Stupids are sold to deceives.

@malamakkavu Ай бұрын

If you have to choose one of the two evils, choose less evil

@parvezshahidi4783 Ай бұрын

Do not choose any evil. Join Workers party.

@parvezshahidi4783 Ай бұрын

Lesser of two evils are keeping in permanent chain, wake up.

@fishing-gardening-travelling 28 күн бұрын

Sadiq Khan the brown clown 🤡 doing the dirty work.

@Nusaybah459 Ай бұрын

Does Islam allow voting any one who implements man made law, sovereignty is given to man?.

@wackypeace1135 Ай бұрын

Yes, next you'll say we can't pick the captain of our football team.

@abuhudaifah_0 Ай бұрын

@@wackypeace1135 where is your dhalil.? Dont be patronising. If you aren't able to have an amicable discussion then dont comment.

@matthewjbellamy1 Ай бұрын

Does Islam allow you to vote for a Major that supports LGBTQ .....think about that .

@BlueBlue23 Ай бұрын

Does Islam allow you to live in a land that continuously put us in these situations???

@shahnoor3932 Ай бұрын

This question should not be asked to an imam or s scholar - that's not their area of expertise. Even though Sadiq khan is a Muslim, he should be avoided because his party sided with genocide.

@fishing-gardening-travelling 28 күн бұрын

Sadiq Khan is a brown clown 🤡 doing the dirty work.

@user-xi9hw1ku7b 28 күн бұрын

Here's a radical idea...how about voting for the person who will 2:08 be the best for London??? Forget religion..stop making it about Muslims

@paulmorris8775 27 күн бұрын

So to simply disagree with somebody's opion is Islamophobic or Racist, Utterly ridiculous statement but that is how your faith operates, Childish behaviour as the word No is not an option to you and if you dont get your own way the intimidation and violence follows, Way to go in Our democracy

@yaxley3920 25 күн бұрын

Dear Imam stick to religion, leave politics. No vote no voice in a democracy

@jamiulmiah9416 Ай бұрын

Can someone sum up what he said

@braingravy7080 Ай бұрын

The suggestion is don’t vote Labour in GLA (vote Green Party) but reluctantly vote Sadiq Khan for the mayor, even though he’s Labour.

@Epicgeezer 28 күн бұрын

He’s talking gobblygook

@khomol Ай бұрын

Independents all the way. They may not win or have influence on policies but representing Islam is far more important. People need to know what Islam means. Voting for anything else is being a pawn in the game.

@unitysprings3631 Ай бұрын

I think English people have a clear vision of Islam. I'm sick of it, especially the Pakistanis who hurt a million girls.

@Epicgeezer 28 күн бұрын

What does it mean? And why should my country be changed by immigrants who came here to a non Islamic country?

@unitysprings3631 27 күн бұрын

It means the age of consent is nine

@imperialleather5448 27 күн бұрын

@@unitysprings3631 lmfao

@stephenking1073 21 күн бұрын

Sadiq Khan should have never been voted as the Mayer of London. Sadiq Khan has turned London into a hell hole.

@kamilmirza6782 Ай бұрын

IN SHORT, VOTE SADIQ KHAN FOR LONDON MAYOR, AS THE OPPOSITION CANDIDATE WILL RESTRICT PROTESTS. Sheikh's view makes sense.

@ShahRaj-se2fw Ай бұрын

VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹

@unitysprings3631 Ай бұрын

A sheiks view should have no bearing on English politics.

@Fox_Attack Ай бұрын

One hand, strong punch

@user-xh8ui7hw1u Ай бұрын

Don't vote based on emotion because.... What are the harms and benefits?

@carljackson5259 20 күн бұрын

Why should radical things be brought over when it’s known to do with our country? It is not to do with our country if you don’t like what’s going on around the world why should you bring you know? Saying things and doing things? Why don’t you go over there and say and do it why do it in this country, I’m telling you what the rate you’re going on you gonna get more than what you think

@carljackson5259 20 күн бұрын

I’ve recorded every part of this and put it all over different medias. This is like some radical thing being said why are you talking like

@m25localsprojects21 Ай бұрын

I and my family always voted for Labor party all our lives. I don't owe anything to labor party anything but Labor party owe us. I'll vote Workers Party in coming General elections. But in London election there is no Workers Party candidate for Mayor so I'll vote for Sadiq Khan reluctantly. If there was anyone from Worker's Party I would vote for him/her. Don't get put off for rewarding anyone else. I would say let it be whatever, what else could go wrong, Tories are also under pressure because of reform UK. Labor needs to understand the importance of certain communities have concerns. we have alternative and that is Workers.

@parvezshahidi4783 Ай бұрын

Join Workers Party.

@JohnDoe-xv4rp Ай бұрын

But isn't Khan a member of the Jewish Labour movement, and pro lgbtq??

@ShahRaj-se2fw Ай бұрын

VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹 HIS POLICIES ARE BETTER THAN THE REST 🎉🎉🎉

@user-nf2oz5lu9z 26 күн бұрын

إن الحكم إلا الله ☝️

@naztaz3273 Ай бұрын

Vote s Khan As the Conservative candidate is terrible It's a 2 horse race

@matthewjbellamy1 Ай бұрын

If you vote Khan then you are voting LGBTQ as he represents the community. I'm glad Islam is becoming so open minded. Thank you for your support 🙏

@ShahRaj-se2fw Ай бұрын

VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹

@zanethepain8915 Ай бұрын

Sorry sheikh your grasp on politics isn't great so you're one of those that advocate for vote Labour no matter the harm no matter how much they take us for granted

@wackypeace1135 Ай бұрын

Spot on

@ahans1792 Ай бұрын

Your opinion. Doesn't make it correct. Just another stance which could also be criticised. Do what you feel is right

@masifaa Ай бұрын

We do need to think about this. Because, if we don't vote for him, we risk that Kamini Shaitan Zionist Islamophobic Racist Tory Susan getting in!

@abdullahX001 Ай бұрын

He said the opposite of what you are saying

@berserker6950 25 күн бұрын

Look how the sheep are so easily led.

@RashidAnsari-eo9ex Ай бұрын

There are elements of this conversation that are deeply flawed. Firstly the Mayoral election isn't close at all. Sadiq Khan has a 22pt lead over Susan Hall in the polls. So it isn't a two horse race. London is very left wing, even at the last GE in 2019, when Labour had there worse result since 1935. Labour still won 49 out of 73 parliament seats in London, when they did really poorly across the rest of the country so the premise of this conversation is flawed. As for allowing demonstrations only the Met Police can ban the demonstration on grounds of public safety, neither the Mayor nor the Home Secretary who are in charge of Policing in London can't. Even if the Police did ban demonstrations they can be challenged straight away in the courts and overturned. The freedom of speech and association is a cornerstone of a Liberal democracy, to ban it requires an exceptionally high bar of evidence to say it'll lead to violence. The Tories say it to play to their base, you need to see past that and research both issues a lot better. Otherwise this conversation will mislead people.

@petercrane2065 26 күн бұрын

This is simple child psycology, tell people what not to do and they will do the opposite.

@fazalkarim5833 Ай бұрын

Vai. We. Are. Not. Recvespaper. For. Wots

@matthewjbellamy1 Ай бұрын

The Muslim community is becoming open minded to lgbtq by voting for Sadiq Khan who represents the lgbtq community. This is the right step for equality 👏

@gtwade101 Ай бұрын

Is this not forbidden within Islam though?

@matthewjbellamy1 Ай бұрын

@@gtwade101 My way of opening the eyes of his voters . Khan doesn't represent Muslims , he only represents himself . I have used reversed propaganda tactics . People should understand the candidate they are voting for .

@nikkijayne4451 29 күн бұрын

@@gtwade101 move, if you don't like things forbidden by Islam. This is not an Islamic country.

@marianlonge3060 28 күн бұрын

Keep listening to this man he knows nothing about politics 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@anisurshamim2805 29 күн бұрын

Sorry

@anwarsabar7482 Ай бұрын

The question here is not about the Islamic view on voting but something very practical in our daily lives as Londoners. This concerns the dilemma of whether to vote for Sadiq Khan or punish labour. I think the Sheikh has very eloquently put into words what we're all delibrating with. His view that we need to look at the bigger picture resonates with my personal opinion and I suppose anyone else who supports the Palestinian cause. We can use the other 2 votes to punish Labour and the Conservatives. The third option of abstaining is ideal for those who view the process as unislamic etc but in reality will quite possibly be rewarding a candidate who may be a lot worse than Sadiq Khan.

@thepatriot665 23 күн бұрын

WHAY ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE UK LETTING A MERE 4 MILLION MUSLIMS INFLUENCE OUR COUNTRY SO MUCH

@user-km3uj8kb7z 26 күн бұрын

Sadas khan shouldn't be mayor,its all fixed

@anothergoogleuser4915 Ай бұрын

La hola wala kuwata, fear Allah subhana wata ala. If you are truthful why do you delete my comments. Rebutt them if you are truthful.

@abuhudaifah_0 Ай бұрын

The ruling on parliaments is that they are not allowed and they are places of Shirk and Kufr, and we see them as Thaghut because they are places of legislation and of making laws and judging by other than what Allah has sent down (the Shariah). And the basis of parliaments and democracy is “judgment of the people for the people” and the people are the ones who legislate through their representatives who are called “parliamentarians”. And this goes against singling out Allah alone for judging and legislating and ordering and forbidding. Allah says: إن الحكم إلا لله “The judgment is for none but Allah” Surat Al An’am 6:57 And it (judgment) is not for the people. And Allah says: أفحكم الجاهلية يبغون “Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance?” Surat al Ma’idah 5:50 And Allah says: ولا يشرك في حكمه أحدا “He makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule.” Surat Al Kahf 18:26 It is not for the parliament, or for the people, or for anyone. As for the claim of the one who says that the foundation of democracy and parliaments is established upon Shura (Islamic consultation) then this is either lie and deceit or ignorance and misguidance. It is not established upon the Islamic Shura, rather it is based on legislation, and they consult amongst themselves not on those issues that are permitted, rather they consult in order to legislate laws that contradict the Shariah. And this is the reality of them. As for the ruling on those who enter them (parliaments), then there are some details to this: 1) If he enters them and legislates man made laws which contradict the Shariah, or agrees to or is pleased with a law that contradicts the Shariah or votes for it, then this person is a Mushrik (Polytheist) Kaafir (Disbeliever), and he is not excused for ignorance or misinterpretation or (for considering it as bringing) benefits. Allah says: أم لهم شركاء شرعوا لهم من الدين ما لم يأذن به الله “Or do they have partners (false gods) with Allah, who have legislated for them a religion which Allah has not allowed?” Surat Ash Shuraa 42:21 And Allah says: إن الحكم إلا لله “The judgment is for none but Allah” Surat Al An’am 6:57 And Allah says: ولا يشرك في حكمه أحدا “He makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule.” Surat Al Kahf 18:26 2) If he enters and swears to respect the Kufr constitution knowing that the constitution contradicts the Shariah, then this is Kufr (disbelief) and Riddah (apostasy), whether he was serious (in his oath) or not, and whether it was done for benefit or not. He has indeed committed this act of Kufr by choice, knowingly and intentionally. And he is like the one who takes an oath to respect Al Laat and Al Uzza, or takes an oath to respect the laws of the Quraish during the time of the Messenger, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. 3) He does not take an oath to respect the constitution, and does not legislate or participate in legislation which contradicts the Shariah, but he rejects that and votes against it - this person is mistaken and misguided and he goes against the guidance of the Messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in bringing change and reform and in establishing the Islamic State, but he is not a Kaafir even though he has taken a path of misguidance and Shirk as a path for Dawah and bringing change and reform. Allah says: فماذا بعد الحق إلا الضلال “And what is after truth, except falsehood” Surat Yunus 10:32 And we have discussed this issue in our book “Al Jam’u wa Thajreed Fee Sharh Kitaab At Tawheed” in the chapter “The call to Tawheed”, and it is the issue of the ruling on entering the parliaments” - Shaykh ‘Alî Bin Khudayr al-Khudayr (fak’Allāhu asrahū)

@Nusaybah459 Ай бұрын

Mashallah, very important information to take away and contemplate. May Allah reward you abundantly

@DarthMarr2009 Ай бұрын

Theocratic voting is not good

@bev5175 25 күн бұрын

Why his he talking who is this man this is not British 🙈

@nazuddin6346 Ай бұрын

100% dear Shiekh

@AkhtarKhan-to4uk Ай бұрын

Sheikh..stick to religious matters please.. ur analysis is poor. Voting should be done as a matter of conscion. Independent supporting Palestinians gets my vote regardless of whether he wins or not!

@anothergoogleuser4915 Ай бұрын

@ShahRaj-se2fw Ай бұрын

VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹

@stanthemafia Ай бұрын

I disagree respectfully. But he’s wiser than me so I’m listening

@thegreatdebate1197 29 күн бұрын

Vote for a pro LGBTQ mayor 😂🤦

@user-nf2oz5lu9z 26 күн бұрын

Vote is haram

@nadeemashraf304 Ай бұрын

Alhumdulilah

@davidockley747 Ай бұрын

Vote for the person who you think will work in the best interests of London and londoners. Please do not be influenced by somebody ih Istambul, who seems to be obsessed with punishment. When do make representation as to what happens in Turkey? Are you allowed to vote in Turkey?

@BlueBlue23 Ай бұрын

Sheikh is from London .. what are you talking about???

@grimwolf8384 15 күн бұрын

National Security Act 2023 2023 CHAPTER 32 An Act to make provision about threats to national security from espionage, sabotage and persons acting for foreign powers; about the extra-territorial application of Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007; for the registration of certain arrangements with, and activities of, specified persons and foreign powers; about the award of damages in proceedings relating to national security and the payment of damages at risk of being used for the purposes of terrorism; about the availability of legal aid to persons connected with terrorism; to amend the Terrorism Act 2000; and for connected purposes. [11th July 2023] Be it enacted by the King’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:- Part 1Espionage, sabotage and persons acting for foreign powers All mayor's and people voting for other foreign power need removing from the government and power all people that support this should have their citizenship removed this is a breach of national security laws

@MustangBoss1973 Ай бұрын

SUE SADIQ KHAN

@ShahRaj-se2fw Ай бұрын

VOTE FOR BRIAN ROSE FOR MAYOR OF LONDON...I WILL VOTE TODAY FOR MR BRIAN ROSE BECAUSE OF HIS GOOD POLICIES AND STANCE FOR JUSTICE 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

@nadpor68 28 күн бұрын

This is known as asking a question with all the answers provided. Laughable

@ICE_G555 Ай бұрын

Sorry Shaykh, you're wrong on this. Your analysis on this wrong. You're thinking is too short term. Politicians don't do anything for you if you vote for them no matter what. You only need to look at Brexit and UKIP and what they managed to achieve.

@rebelliousfighter7075 Ай бұрын

How can you vote for someone who openly and boldly supports lgbt, shaikh you lost all the respect what I had for you!!!

@Amatuallah-jt2kg Ай бұрын

May allah swt bless you sheik

@parvezshahidi4783 Ай бұрын

Bless him for what? Stupidity.

@bibiwooz6433 28 күн бұрын

Ameen

@nahighrange2209 28 күн бұрын

All candidates other than Sadiq Khan will be worse. At least this man “Mr Khan” is NOT islamophbi and ensures equality and justice for all, others will not. Be careful. Be wise. We do not agree on every policy Sadiq Khan made, specifically his motoring and traffic policy in London is but still we vote for him strategically, be smart don’t follow your emotions.

@Meriamen 28 күн бұрын

There is no God called Allah

@abduljamil Ай бұрын

These shaikh doesn't know anything politics .... just ask them about ablution and how to do Istinja etc .....

@adamali2886 Ай бұрын

"might be upset". May Allah protect us from these people

@mqb5151 27 күн бұрын

Every Muslim should vote...this is absolutely nonsense bonkers. EVERY MUSLIM VOTE for anyone except labour and conservative. We have the power to disrupt the government. We have the power to make them aware that we matter. Let's punish them all vote Independent

@marianlonge3060 28 күн бұрын

Us English won’t condemn Isreal either… and we outnumber u by millions

@patriciadrury8557 28 күн бұрын

Get khan out he his not a london man and a london mayor should be a real cockney so khan out out out

@mrmsali2667 Ай бұрын

Waste of time watching those men like this, so call Western sheikh. Those so-called sheikh are in lost too. Waste of time watching those as we all know those politically ignorant sheikh. Just because they recite some Quran aya doesn't make their view right as so ignorant

@ShahRaj-se2fw Ай бұрын

VOTE BRIAN ROSE 🌹