Voxel Doom Tested: id Software Classic Gets A Voxelised 3D Upgrade!

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Жыл бұрын

How do you add a 3D upgrade to the original Doom without relying completely on inappropriate Polygon models? The answer is to take the 2D pixel sprites throughout the game and to voxelise them, Minecraft-style. The result is quite extraordinary, as Alex Battaglia reveals in this video.
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@SDK2K9
@SDK2K9 Жыл бұрын
This is what GZDoom VR has been missing, and I'm so glad it finally exist. Playing this mod in VR along side the voxel weapons really completes the experience.
@yotube155
@yotube155 Жыл бұрын
Now if we could add ray tracing to the VR version and somehow not explode my computer that would be sweet
@IzeIzeBaby
@IzeIzeBaby Жыл бұрын
@@yotube155 maybe on pc but the quest 2 would go up in flames xD
@xsct878
@xsct878 Жыл бұрын
@@IzeIzeBaby No, unless you're rocking a 3090ti or using the cheapest forms of RT possible, RT is not happening in VR, PC or not.
@T0asty-
@T0asty- Жыл бұрын
@@xsct878 dlss my guy.
@archthearchvile
@archthearchvile Жыл бұрын
@@T0asty- I doubt the GZDoom team would implement DLSS properly and also I'm pretty sure GZDoom is CPU bound (not that I could write a better engine)
@axolet
@axolet Жыл бұрын
I fucking love it when creators respect the original source material when doing "recreations". Theres a high degree of humbleness and attention to detail required to accomplish such feats.
@razvanmazilu6284
@razvanmazilu6284 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Personally I will always prefer projects that actually maintain the feel of the original over ones that don't. This goes both for mods and for official remasters. Voxel Doom is both a technical and an artistic achievement in my book.
@djayjp
@djayjp Жыл бұрын
Humility, yep.
@StuartQuinn
@StuartQuinn Жыл бұрын
It's like the "TNG remaster" of doom mods.
@axolet
@axolet Жыл бұрын
And then you have shit like Disney's star wars where everyone and their grandmother wants to interject their own shitty ideas, ruining the original canon. I still can't believe the whole skywalker bloodline is now DEAD with rey calling herself a skywalker. Rant over.
@deadfr0g
@deadfr0g Жыл бұрын
This mod clearly has talent, patience, and reverence in spades.
@dmitriivanov7143
@dmitriivanov7143 Жыл бұрын
5:53 Love the fact that the zombies are no longer flipping their guns depending on their orientation relative to the player.
@yurifairy2969
@yurifairy2969 Жыл бұрын
they were very dextrous considering they were zombies
@iMernerner
@iMernerner Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Actually there are some mods for fix that! (Idsoft didn't used all 16 sprites on release)
@h8GW
@h8GW 11 ай бұрын
@yurifairy2969 Clearly you must be referring to how much the chaingunner's aiming dexterity can aggravate the player, for being such a low level monster.
@Tycitron6000
@Tycitron6000 3 ай бұрын
Yeah there were unused sprites for those missing rotations for the zombies / doomguy/ imps but luckily there IS a sprite fixing mod that fixes this on PC. (Among other sprite fixes as well.)
@ryandietrich8604
@ryandietrich8604 Жыл бұрын
It is crazy how Ken Silverman CONTINUES to leave his fingerprints on the gaming world. Dude was so far ahead of his time.
@Islandswamp
@Islandswamp Жыл бұрын
I’m playing ion fury right now
@Vile-Flesh
@Vile-Flesh Жыл бұрын
It is beyond amazing after decades passed how DOOM is still getting these in-depth mods and conversions. I've been playing it since '94 and I STILL get worked up whenever I see a new video about DOOM or hear someone mention DOOM. The shotguns of DOOM will be roaring for decades to come. DOOM is life.
@Daniel__Nobre
@Daniel__Nobre Жыл бұрын
It’s a game that was clearly done with passion by people who wanted to create and share the type of games they also loved to play. And on top of that they were incredibly intelligent and/or talented. Quite a unique alignment.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
Try out my old episodes from 1996! 🤣😂🤣 "Darkhell" and "Blakhell". Hard to believe it's been 30+ years... 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
@Vile-Flesh
@Vile-Flesh Жыл бұрын
@@Novastar.SaberCombat NO WAY.....You're not going to believe this but just in the last two weeks I was thinking about Darkhell, it was one of the very first custom WADS I ever played in '95/'96and it left an impression on me. I was 15 at the time and going by memory I fondly remember the level with the wide upwards spiral, the HUGE wide open 3rd level and the tower level that was an actual tower. I remember the huge open circular level making my 486sx25 struggle even with 8 megs of RAM. Blakhell doesn't sound familiar but I'm going to see if I recognize it. Thank you for creating something that became a happy memory for me. To this day I still play DOOM/DOOM2 on a CRT. DOOM shaped who I am today.
@PhonesAreDumb
@PhonesAreDumb Жыл бұрын
The original Doom could possibly be considered the high point of gaming and artwork, considering how much it's still played and referenced and modded.
@Barnaclebeard
@Barnaclebeard Жыл бұрын
DOOM doesn't continue to live because it is so exceptionally good but because it is an exceptionally good benchmark app that is very well written in a portable manner, has a small code base, the code has been published, and it is very easy to bring to life on new platforms.
@TheAceAttorney
@TheAceAttorney Жыл бұрын
Just to point out, Voxel Doom will also work with any WADs that only use sprites from Doom 1. So for example SIGIL will work with this perfectly as it only uses Doom 1 assets.
@metalvideos1961
@metalvideos1961 Жыл бұрын
you can run it wih doom 2 mods as well. its just that not all Doom 2 monsters are modeled yet. so if you see a revenant for example you will see it as standard 2D. but if you see a shotgun guy you will see it as the Voxel. just a mix from both.
@SMJSmoK
@SMJSmoK Жыл бұрын
@@metalvideos1961 That's actually a really cool piece of info, thanks. I assumed that the game would outright crash so I didn't even try it. It cool that it "partially" works this way.
@metalvideos1961
@metalvideos1961 Жыл бұрын
@@SMJSmoK no it does not. so i dont know why he told you that you couldnt run it with doom 2. its literally the same game as doom 1 just a couple of extra monsters.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
I have yet to see Voxel Doom work at all, let alone perfectly. For some reason my GZDoom engine can't do voxels. I'll have to look through the config and see if I missed something.
@SYCZ
@SYCZ Жыл бұрын
It will work fine with doom 2. Cyber demon and arch vile are the only ones finished though.
@calebduke2832
@calebduke2832 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the perfect way to step the graphics up while being faithful to the art style; I’d love to see someone do this for Daggerfall Unity
@fensoxx
@fensoxx Жыл бұрын
Daggerfall needs it. Bad. Imho
@razvanmazilu6284
@razvanmazilu6284 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that would be awesome. However I imagine Daggerfall has many more sprites than Doom does, so it would be a tough feat to accomplish.
@davidgarcia1163
@davidgarcia1163 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. The good thing is surely someone from the community will get right to it!
@avatarion
@avatarion Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely, this would be so good for Daggerfall.
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Жыл бұрын
OMG PLEASE
@DarkstarArchangel
@DarkstarArchangel Жыл бұрын
Cheello would be flattered that his mod is now getting the attention of great creators and featured channels on KZfaq. It is getting the media-attention that it deserves.
@donizettilorenzo
@donizettilorenzo Жыл бұрын
And for Blood Coagulated too! (same project for Blood)
@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435
@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm impressed how it still maintains that 2D feels to the animation!😆
@CrispiteVA
@CrispiteVA Жыл бұрын
maybe its because its a voxel dumbass
@Demmrir
@Demmrir Жыл бұрын
It does so because every frame of animation in the original sprites was individually modeled from those sprites, rather than making one model, rigging, and animating it.
@phattjohnson
@phattjohnson Жыл бұрын
The video itself explains how this was painstakingly achieved! :D
@alext3811
@alext3811 Жыл бұрын
@@Demmrir Reminds me of those HD texture packs for retro console (5th and 6th gen, which I still feel weird saying as such, as they're all years older than me), except even more astounding.
@CrispiteVA
@CrispiteVA Жыл бұрын
@@phattjohnson it doesnt
@phrozac
@phrozac Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. I've always loved the look of voxels. They're like the missing link between sprites and polygonal models. It's a unique look. It'd be extra cool if he voxelized the Doom Guy's hands and guns too.
@lalalaLaFlex
@lalalaLaFlex Жыл бұрын
So I accidentally loaded this for doom 2. I was shocked at how well the voxel doom monsters mixed with the sprite monsters. They weren't jarring in the least side-by-side in action.
@jimwalton8973
@jimwalton8973 Жыл бұрын
yeh it runs well with mods like auger zenith and la tailor girl mod too.
@phattjohnson
@phattjohnson Жыл бұрын
Ahh this is what I wanna hear!
@af4396
@af4396 Жыл бұрын
Wow, looks like the time it takes just to "fix" ONE sprite takes so much time, not to mention artistic skill doing it with those "paint blocks". This is a really cool mod, one that doesn't just put a coat of paint on the game but literally changes its dimensions without affecting the original experience. Coolest mod I've seen yet!
@BlackV4You
@BlackV4You Жыл бұрын
its surreal!
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 Жыл бұрын
I think this is actually quite perfect for something like playing doom in VR. The original sprites can really look flat when analysed up close, specially in stereoscopic 3D, but with this you get the most accurate experience possible to the original without feeling like you are just killing a bunch of cardboard cutouts. Brilliant.
@Zoza15
@Zoza15 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Doom is still being improved over the years by the loyal community. The voxels of Doom is a welcoming addition. Cheello deserves all the credit here.. I hope the voxels in the future will create more assets and voxelized environments. And if possible some more highly detailed voxel assets. So yeah, the voxels Doom is a bright future.
@curcumin417
@curcumin417 Жыл бұрын
Also Nash for his contribution.
@user-og6hl6lv7p
@user-og6hl6lv7p Жыл бұрын
I love that they mixed parts of the Build engine with Doom to get this running. Can you imagine hearing that back in the 90s?
@Decenium
@Decenium Жыл бұрын
Now I want voxel versions of other classics like Heretic/Hexen
@thorocomments817
@thorocomments817 Жыл бұрын
Imagine causing original DOOM to go below 60fps on a 3090. This rules
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
See also: Ray Traced Doom. Runs less than 60fps at 1080p without DLSS, lol.
@bauul.
@bauul. Жыл бұрын
In fairness he was running it at 4k x32 multisampling, or in other words an internal resolution of 122,880 x 69,120. That's going to make any GPU choke a bit!
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf Жыл бұрын
@@bauul. I wonder if at those extremely high resolutions, the problem isn't such raw compute power, but rather a (legit) lack of bandwidth?
@FM-kl7oc
@FM-kl7oc Жыл бұрын
You can do it without these kinds of mods too, check out Karl Jobst's video "The Most Hilarious Doom Speedrun Ever Performed" :D
@thorocomments817
@thorocomments817 Жыл бұрын
@@FM-kl7oc I’ve seen this, lol. Hilarious experiment
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment Жыл бұрын
After watching the whole thing I think adding twice the number of “sprite” walking frames would give doom the real face lift it needs without ruining the old time look and feel.
@nathantron
@nathantron Жыл бұрын
I really want an interview by the original Doom Dev's and see what they think of all this new stuff being done with doom.
@dugnice
@dugnice Жыл бұрын
I vividly remember being in high school when Doom was released and a few of my school friends having a copy of the game and loading it off of 3 or 4 floppy disks onto school computers to play on LAN. It's just amazing how far game graphics have come along since then and it's interesting to wonder how things would have turned out if something like this was released back then.
@cheat13
@cheat13 Жыл бұрын
It's super impressive, I would love to see a Voxel version of Star Wars Dark Forces in the same way!
@kloakovalimonada
@kloakovalimonada Жыл бұрын
That's super impressive - improving the technology while keeping the style
@ridass.7137
@ridass.7137 Жыл бұрын
Big, big ups for all the technical info at the end of the video, you just saved us a ton of time.
@duality222
@duality222 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work by Daniel and really great overview, Alex! Thanks for highlighting a mod like this.
@chanze555
@chanze555 Жыл бұрын
Any fun doom 1 megawads that don't use doom 2+ assets? This mod is so good that I can't play the other doom games until all sprites are 3d.
@DENj121
@DENj121 Жыл бұрын
That's cool, looks much better than old md2 models from early 2000-th.
@whatscheiser
@whatscheiser Жыл бұрын
I was following the development of this and I just think its great that Cheello has gotten so much attention for his work. Its great to see a channel like DF cover community projects like this. Great stuff, guys!
@cygnus4232
@cygnus4232 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, the amount of work and attention to detail that went into this is incredible. Great job to Daniel and Nash for making this happen!
@TheGameLecturer
@TheGameLecturer Жыл бұрын
I'd like to be able to mix Voxel Doom with RTX Doom now, it would make so much sense !
@thiagovidal6137
@thiagovidal6137 Жыл бұрын
Not possible at the moment but Cheello have been in talks with the RTX Doom creator as that version does not support voxels at all and runs on it's own build rather than GZDoom. But it will happen eventually.
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 Жыл бұрын
@@thiagovidal6137 that’s cool to hear. I’ve been fearing that combining Voxel Doom + path tracing would result in the voxels being shaded instead of flat/no shading, which would imbalance the 3D and 2D aspects and result in the voxel models looking like Minecraft constructions, but hearing that the mid developers in communication with one another makes me hopeful that they can find a compromise.
@SimonBuchanNz
@SimonBuchanNz Жыл бұрын
It's a weird case, as you need to throw out all the self shadowing and lighting information, any simulation of shine, etc, and just flat shade everything perfectly lit, and then add other layers of material info, normally roughness and metalicity. The extra quirk is that you also need normals, and that's not free when you're using voxels: it's possible it's easier to recreate the models traditionally then voxelize the information!
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Жыл бұрын
RTX + give depth to walls and floors as well = my life is complete.
@sinbysin666
@sinbysin666 Жыл бұрын
"Maybe you're like me, and you've played Doom dozens of times..." Me: "yeah... dozens"
@beartackle
@beartackle Жыл бұрын
LOL, I practically bought Doom in almost every system, and bought it on PC multiple times. Doom isn't my childhood, it's now me!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
Maybe he meant just today?
@sturat18
@sturat18 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex for making a video highlighting this mod. Excellent stuff.
@djentslayer
@djentslayer 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see some recognition for this mod. Been following the project since day 1 and it's amazing how far it's come.
@mrnicktoyou
@mrnicktoyou Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the voxels I thought of Blood and other Build engine games. It looks amazing.
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow Жыл бұрын
I dont think those are voxels tho
@ghost085
@ghost085 Жыл бұрын
This same author made a mod for Blood that turns some enemies into voxels too. It's called Blood Coagulated.
@mrnicktoyou
@mrnicktoyou Жыл бұрын
@@Somewhere_sometime_somehow yeah they are. Blood had voxels for items and weapons back in the 90s.
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow Жыл бұрын
@@mrnicktoyou Yeah your right, i was thinking mostly about the enemies tho
@wesleybcrowen
@wesleybcrowen Жыл бұрын
This is like the only 3D model pack for Doom I genuinely love. Can't wait for Doom 2 pack.
@jimwalton8973
@jimwalton8973 Жыл бұрын
so looking forward to his completed revenant model.
@CoralCopperHead
@CoralCopperHead Жыл бұрын
Not a high bar to clear.
@jpaulobiem
@jpaulobiem Жыл бұрын
Amazing job from this guys! Thank you Daniel Wienerson!
@TamarinPamarin
@TamarinPamarin Жыл бұрын
The best presentation about voxel mod I've seen. Great video!
@tatwo_
@tatwo_ Жыл бұрын
Saw this earlier. I hardly could see any difference in normal gameplay. But looking at more closely like this it really looks cool.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
Try it with 'Darkhell" and "Blakhell" (full episodes)! I'd love to see more footage of gameplay on those. 💪😎🤟
@Salty_Bass
@Salty_Bass Жыл бұрын
This combined with ray tracing would be the ultimate doom experience imo
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow Жыл бұрын
Thinking alike
@Schpoo
@Schpoo Жыл бұрын
With Brutal DOOM...
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
...in VR
@danpatrick7176
@danpatrick7176 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this! Awesome video
@tehprimelime1063
@tehprimelime1063 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel for this lovely work!
@AJBats
@AJBats Жыл бұрын
This mod would work really good with the VR mod of Doom
@thiagovidal6137
@thiagovidal6137 Жыл бұрын
It does.
@timaidley7801
@timaidley7801 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this approach added to the floors and walls as well - the environments would look so crunchy. Ensuring there were no cracks might turn out to be non-trivial, though.
@Gencoil
@Gencoil Жыл бұрын
Hey, not a bad idea!
@jamesbrown1645
@jamesbrown1645 Жыл бұрын
Some voxtures were made a decade ago but OpenGL performance was terrible. Vulkan would probably fare better so it hopefully they try again.
@kveller555
@kveller555 Жыл бұрын
@James Brown I think you can already get a similar effect with parallax mapping in GZDoom.
@proesterchen
@proesterchen Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Thanks for covering this mod, Alex! 👍
@ItsClodsire
@ItsClodsire Жыл бұрын
Those models are all gorgeous and it shouldn't be understated, they are very much labors of love you can just tell. Especially that tree... that tree was beautiful.
@Bryan-T
@Bryan-T Жыл бұрын
Voxels are very performance intensive. I used to play a mod called D4D that had an option for voxel pickups. There were certain maps that would have 50 or so pickups in a room and with the voxels turned on my performance as in the gutter. I'm sure this mod is no big deal for the standard levels but any slightly slaughter map is going to crush your performance.
@Osprey850
@Osprey850 Жыл бұрын
When this mod was released, I was on a trip and tried it on my 5-year-old laptop with Intel integrated graphics, which runs GZDoom just fine. The performance was so bad that it was virtually unplayable, like maybe 10fps. I had to wait a few weeks, until I got back to my desktop computer to properly test it out.
@Zaptruder
@Zaptruder Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this just looks good. Would buy a modern FPS using voxel and pixel textures like shown. The environment surfaces could probably stand to have some voxelization and depth as well, and PBR could be used to enhance materiality... throw in some modern ray traced lighting and it'll be a beautiful fusion of old and new.
@DenisKublitsky
@DenisKublitsky Жыл бұрын
Ion fury has voxels. But can it be considered modern, is the question.
@JFinns
@JFinns Жыл бұрын
Yes somehow merging this and the PrBoom-Plus-RT engine
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Жыл бұрын
Voxels.have amazing advantage over polygons and that's destruction physics.
@Smartzenegger
@Smartzenegger Жыл бұрын
That is a lot of good work! Very well done. It's amazing!
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
this is beautiful; i could replay so many wads enjoying these great voxels. i've been on a retro and retro-style fps odyssey these last months so I am really appreciating this.
@Justgarlicbred
@Justgarlicbred Жыл бұрын
This genuinely looks like it would have been remade from the ground up for the PS1. This is cool I love it. I wish I could install this on my switch. Also I love the fact that he managed to keep the art in such a way that it looks like it honors the original art.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
Uh, no, the PS1 would choke trying to draw all those voxels.
@StraightOuttaJarhois
@StraightOuttaJarhois Жыл бұрын
@@yellowblanka6058 Yeah, the PS1 sometimes struggled to run regular Doom at a playable framerate. Still my favorite version though, thanks to the atmospheric lighting and soundtrack.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
@@StraightOuttaJarhois The PS1/N64 versions were at least a huge leap over earlier ports if you didn't have a PC capable of playing Doom. They were very different in tone though.
@ScottishAtheist
@ScottishAtheist Жыл бұрын
I've not been as impressed by a mod in ages, even though there's more visually impressive graphical mods for Doom, what makes this so damn good is that it adds that important 3rd dimension for things like VR (it's great in VR btw) while still retaining the look and feel of the original. Top marks!
@Moshugaani
@Moshugaani Жыл бұрын
Cheello has done an amazing job! The voxel models look incredibly authentic to the original sprites, so much so that you barely notice it until you see a model from the side!
@grrinc
@grrinc Жыл бұрын
Well done Daniel! Absolutely splendid work! What a great talent.
@omgawesomeomg
@omgawesomeomg Жыл бұрын
This looks incredible and it's amazing that this game STILL inspires so much creativity. It's crazy to think we can nowadays play Doom in full 3D and with Ray Tracing.
@TheBigQQ69420
@TheBigQQ69420 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought the same thing... in 2016... since you didn't specify, and all the other handful of 3d doom games,
@SimplexPL
@SimplexPL Жыл бұрын
Voxel Doom 2 when? :) Amazing work by the modder and great video by Alex, as always. Aufwiedersehen :)
@trankzen148
@trankzen148 Жыл бұрын
He's working on it right now with new videos and posts coming out almost every day, got check it out !
@KingSigy
@KingSigy Жыл бұрын
You can technically use it in Doom 2, but it is missing the extra monsters. The creator is working on updating the mod for Doom 2, though.
@pstuddy
@pstuddy Жыл бұрын
this is AMAZING. i hope they do this for all other fps of that generation, especially hexen
@Netsuko
@Netsuko Жыл бұрын
Hats off to the amount of work being put into this! I first thought there was some way to somewhat easily port sprites to voxels… but then all being hand drawn… wow!!
@dissecta
@dissecta Жыл бұрын
Awful Dad joke warning… Given Alex is in Berlin should it be Doom with Opels rather than Vauxhalls? God, I’m so sorry for that joke.
@KingSigy
@KingSigy Жыл бұрын
I love voxels anyway, but what really sold me on this mod is how the animations are handled. At times, I thought I wasn't even playing a mod. It captures the essence of Doom's art style so perfectly.
@AssailantLF
@AssailantLF Жыл бұрын
This mod is awesome. Love all the hard work and attention to detail that was put in. Clearly a passion project by some very talented people.
@DJ10ROCS
@DJ10ROCS Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work by the Moddershall!
@360Fov
@360Fov Жыл бұрын
I always felt voxels had huge potential to be a game changer, especially with sandbox type games, or anything with destructible environments.
@Sunnyplayz64
@Sunnyplayz64 Жыл бұрын
the teardown in question:
@CreateConsumeRepeat
@CreateConsumeRepeat Жыл бұрын
Amazing job. Voxel Doom looks insane. I would kill to see this with ray tracing.
@KillahMate
@KillahMate Жыл бұрын
Actually part of why the voxel models look so 'correct' is because there is no lighting applied so they fully match the original sprites. Doom is too old for ray tracing - it was basically a 2D game with some rendering tricks and art direction to make it look 3D. Quake 1 is at least fully 3D and was built with a _sort of_ realistic light propagation so maybe diffuse ray tracing would make sense, but Doom would need to be completely rebuilt and in the end it wouldn't look very much like Doom anymore.
@cannonaire
@cannonaire Жыл бұрын
@@KillahMate Digital Foundry made a video on a ray traced version of Doom. I think that if that version used these sprites it would take it to another level.
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's unfortunate that the RT Doom is in PrBoom, a different sourceport, so there's no easy way to combine the two... yet.
@sgtpatton
@sgtpatton Жыл бұрын
wow absolutely NAILED it amazing work
@CarlMahnke
@CarlMahnke Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable, how Ken Silvermans 90s voxel code is still relevant today!
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 Жыл бұрын
Now let's add ray tracing to this
@ErdrickHero
@ErdrickHero Жыл бұрын
Could each voxel be turned into a coloured vertex, and then subdivided, to create accurate polygon models?
@marcbuhrens6328
@marcbuhrens6328 Жыл бұрын
@Daniel and Nash: Excellent, authentic work with attention to detail. Great stuff! Next project: PowerSlave: Exhumed?
@sindobrandnew
@sindobrandnew Жыл бұрын
5:26 Now you've done it! Thank you for not messing up original.
@iameod
@iameod Жыл бұрын
it all looks amazing and true to doom except for the nukage barrels, there's something a bit off about them
@Gencoil
@Gencoil Жыл бұрын
They look less shiny and, ironically, somehow flatter.
@SmogginMog
@SmogginMog Жыл бұрын
Something just feels *off* about the art from most angles.
@papayer
@papayer Жыл бұрын
@@SmogginMog You're just not used to the 3D look.
@EsoiTheGrumpyMawile
@EsoiTheGrumpyMawile Жыл бұрын
I think the reason the barrels look off is because it lacks the shine that you see on the left side of the barrel, if a bit more white was used, it might look better.
@Waifu4Life
@Waifu4Life Жыл бұрын
The fact that you don't need to aim up and down is the reason I like classic DOOM!
@DeskoDev
@DeskoDev Жыл бұрын
GZDoom still has autoaim even with mouselook.
@DeskoDev
@DeskoDev Жыл бұрын
@Sleeping God The point I was trying to make was that it's on by default, sorry
@AJ-po6up
@AJ-po6up Жыл бұрын
you can disable 6dof mouselook in GZDoom, you can make it as classic as you want really, but since GZDoom tries to be a modern source port is obviously going to be on by default.
@DeskoDev
@DeskoDev Жыл бұрын
@@AJ-po6up Nice PC Cloud pfp
@atquinn1975
@atquinn1975 Жыл бұрын
Wow, brilliant work!
@StraightOuttaJarhois
@StraightOuttaJarhois Жыл бұрын
I've wished for something like this for a long time, but I never thought it would happen due to the immense work it would take. Cheello had to draw a whole 3D voxel model for every single frame of animation (though mercifully not at multiple angles). Absolute madman.
@X_Leonhart
@X_Leonhart Жыл бұрын
Games will come, games will go. But Doom is eternal.
@steveafanador6441
@steveafanador6441 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I wish they would release it on consoles.
@metalvideos1961
@metalvideos1961 Жыл бұрын
why would any sane person make mods for doom on console lol. get a pc and play doom mods.
@the1ucidone
@the1ucidone Жыл бұрын
This is phenomenal! What an absolutely amazing modification. Kudos to the modder for his unbelievable creation and talent.
@BobOfAllTrades
@BobOfAllTrades Жыл бұрын
It’s so well done that I may not have noticed it since I haven’t played this game in nearly 30 years. It’s subtle until you compare 👌
@dandiaz19934
@dandiaz19934 Жыл бұрын
That's really cool, and I like it better on some parts but for the most part I think it loses some of its charm. I really like the original's use of 2D sprites in 3D spaces. It's an aesthetic in itself.
@Nicholas_Steel
@Nicholas_Steel Жыл бұрын
Not a huge fan of some items now spinning on the ground in that mod (weapons, health vials, armour helmets, keys, map etc). Did they release a variant that doesn't include that behaviour?
@vasopel
@vasopel Жыл бұрын
Yeah my thoughts exactly,I hope that there are options somewhere on the files to change that.
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
I played the mod, not all of the weapons rotare but I agree.
@NashMuhandes
@NashMuhandes Жыл бұрын
We could look into making the spinning effect an optional toggle for a future update to the mod
@Nicholas_Steel
@Nicholas_Steel Жыл бұрын
@@NashMuhandes Thanks. Ensures the items feel tangible in the world.
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
Turns out this can be disabled in a text file.
@Ostsol
@Ostsol Жыл бұрын
An impressive effort, recreating every spite as a voxel model!
@h4x0y
@h4x0y Жыл бұрын
This is amazing work.
@RageQuittersUKOfficial
@RageQuittersUKOfficial Жыл бұрын
Just need some enterprising modders to make this work with Brutal Doom. I imagine that'll be a lot of work though.
@guillermo9171
@guillermo9171 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same but BD has too huge an amount of new sprites and animations. To the point that it would probably take more work to just voxelize BD assets than the entirety of vanilla Doom
@_evildoer
@_evildoer Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with this mod is that the monsters still snap turn at 45 degree increments. A ton of people say they cant even see a difference with this mod because of this. I think it would look a hell of a lot better if the turning was smoothed out with interpolation
@NashMuhandes
@NashMuhandes Жыл бұрын
We plan to add an optional smooth-turning feature for the enemies in an update patch
@_evildoer
@_evildoer Жыл бұрын
@@NashMuhandes Fantastic!
@dmitripopov8570
@dmitripopov8570 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Thanks!
@eskimo4130
@eskimo4130 Жыл бұрын
Looks great, top job!
@gwenc1371
@gwenc1371 Жыл бұрын
This is sooo cool! Imagine doing this with Daggerfall Unity! The 'paper cut out' feel to NPCs feels increasingly out of place as the rest of the world gets upgraded.
@zipobob1
@zipobob1 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to combine this with Doom ray tracing upgrade?
@Schizm1
@Schizm1 Жыл бұрын
This is freakin amazing! One of the most faithful remasters I've seen aaaand it's fan made!
@marjoriemunoz9158
@marjoriemunoz9158 Жыл бұрын
thanks, it actually let me through so i could download it.
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer Жыл бұрын
The vertical aim is not "an assumption". The engine is unable to have two "things" in the vertical plane. There will always only be one thing vertically you can hit, so no need to assume anything.
@SmogginMog
@SmogginMog Жыл бұрын
Yeah his surface level knowledge of Doom is slightly painful.
@bauul.
@bauul. Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by "vertical plane", but you can have multiple targets all within the the same vertical slice of the screen. Imagine standing at the bottom of a flight of stairs and each step has a monster on. All of them are valid vertical targets. Doom's auto-aim is pretty basic though: it targets the enemy physically closest to the player. However, because the horizontal spread of the auto-aim is quite wide (~6 degrees) you can be aiming directly at a more distant monster and have the auto-aim lock onto an enemy closer to you that's a little off to the side. That's what DF meant about it being less than helpful sometimes.
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer Жыл бұрын
@@bauul. Because I was unsure of dooms coordinate system (is the Up vector on Y or Z) I tried to circumvent that distinction by saying vertical plane. You can't have multiple entities in the same place "on the ground" just with height differences. What you are describing are entities with completely different coordinates (not just the height) so this is not the situation we are talking about. In your case it will always shoot the entity more close to you. The engine has no concept of up/down, everything is in a 2d coordinate system. the height differences are just an "optical trick" (that's why the doom engine is sometimes referred to as 2.5D engine)
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
@@VincentFischer That's not exactly correct, but close. Carmack recently clarified exactly this point in his recent interview. Y values are stored in Doom's engine (ie a Cacodemon coming down, or the position of floors like a staircase), and like Bauul said above Doom's auto-aim essentially just chooses the closest target, which is sometimes a faulty assumption.
@AfterBurnerTeirusu
@AfterBurnerTeirusu Жыл бұрын
Having an option to look up and down in DooM is pretty cursed. Not as bad as jumping, but it's extra work for an already smooth experience.
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
You can choose not to, that's already a feature of GZdoom, but you can turn it off. Obviously you wamt that feature to show that the mod actually works in this case, but you can play without 6dof mouselook just fine.
@AfterBurnerTeirusu
@AfterBurnerTeirusu Жыл бұрын
@@Wobbothe3rd True
@spbalance
@spbalance Жыл бұрын
This is genious and amazingly well done. I imagine the old id guys smiling big at this
@jaymanier7286
@jaymanier7286 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work wow!
@luigimaster111
@luigimaster111 Жыл бұрын
I'd love for the view models of the weapons to be modeled as well, and an option to alter the view model positioning. I want to see what Doom would look like with the weapons placed on the left side like in contemporary fps titles, and I wanna see how that weapon bobbing looks in 3d.
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow
@Somewhere_sometime_somehow Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is greqt, but the weapons look seriously flat now
@fmsyntheses
@fmsyntheses Жыл бұрын
The idea that people play Doom with mouselook is highly disturbing to me.
@Gojira-ii4ru
@Gojira-ii4ru 2 күн бұрын
In what year do you live? 1993?
@fmsyntheses
@fmsyntheses 2 күн бұрын
@@Gojira-ii4ru God I wish
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman Жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow! This is what GZDoom has needed. Huge props to the people who created this! You rock!
@user-nn6go1jx1h
@user-nn6go1jx1h Жыл бұрын
Congratulations ! You remade the build engine ! wow how impressive....
@KoeiNL
@KoeiNL Жыл бұрын
The weird thing about Doom is that I mainly remember all the sound effects and not really anything gameplay related :D
@RyanCoomer
@RyanCoomer Жыл бұрын
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffet.
@TheRealPlato
@TheRealPlato Жыл бұрын
Holy shit nice work Cheello!
@claytonwright2416
@claytonwright2416 Жыл бұрын
As you said the old phrase, "having your cake and eating it, too" I was really eating cake. Thanks for putting a smile on my face.
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