@@terracotta6294 This comment is too stupid to argue with.

@@Tubluer The self-righteous know nothings that write that kind of comment are quite prevalent now. They are a product of the education system and Hollywood which has been subverted to weaken the West. If conflict breaks out, they will be the first to whine about not being protected by the military that they have criticized.

Wow thats interesting as i lived so close to there and never knew, Thanks for telling, I must visit next time......?

My grandfather was a gunner on the Emden

From what I’ve heard all that’s left is the starboard prop and shaft, parts of the engines, I think one of the guns, and piles of bull plating

You didn’t happen to be flying on a P-3 aircraft from VP-4 Squadron out of Hawaii? I flew that same Sortie several times as a Flight Engineer with Vp-4 and we always filled the our aircraft with passengers while making these flights.

@@johnvanlindingham9490 I have some family members who's father joined the West Indian Regimet and sailed off to war aboard the HMAS Sydney off to war in 1915 from Jamaica.

@@sirboomsalot4902 from the air it’s a rust stain on the coral reef, so you can get an idea of it’s size.

Cool shit

The diggers were bad ass during World War II! My mother-in-law was a World War II war bride from Melbourne Australia so I learned just a ton of history from her. One of her cousins was killed aboard a Japanese hell ship that they cruised off coast and blew it to smithereens.

I read that book while living on Diego Garcia, its an epic.

@@davidfromkyushu6870 yes it is…worthy of a movie.

I have the emden/ dresden kit here, right next to me now! $45.00 from E-bay.

Also a book another Emden and crew called " The Swan of the East” .. just finished it. Good read.

@@guaporeturns9472 The best book is by von Mucke , : von Mucke, The Emden, Ritter & Company ,1917 and The Last Cruise of the Chivalrous Raider written by von Hohenzollern who was an Officer on the Emden.

As it should be !!

My Great Uncle served on HMAS Sydney having joined the Royal Navy before the war.

Wow, that's cool they still do that, the emden was probably my favorite commerce raider of the war besides maybe the sea eagle or seeadler

It is recognised as our coming of age as a naval force. The fore mast was erected in Sydney Harbour on Middle Head and one of the cannon is located in n Hyde Park, Sydney.

War has never been honorable. That's a myth. You can be a gracious winner but until then it's always been kill or be killed.

And no one survived the second Sydney sinking, no one knew where it lay until fairly recently. The captain? of the kormorant recorded the battle in code by dotting letters in a bible? and no one read it until many decades later.

And that has always been my favorite part of the Emden saga! A true "My balls are bigger than yours!" moment.

Sounds like an old cowboy movie plot line.

There is (or was) a picture...I think it's in the Diego Garcia airport...of the Emden in the lagoon when it visited for repairs and coal. Of course, nobody on D.G. knew that the Brits were at war, so help was given to the crew with no questions asked.

especially seeing as she brought the fireworks!

Yes, "stuck" in a river but tied up a lot of British assets and after the ship was lost joined the German forces ashore who also tied up a lot of British assets.

You might enjoy a movie that somewhat touches on the fate of the Konigsberg. It is called Shout At The Devil, starring Lee Marvin and Roger Moore. You can find it on Yt.

Did you see the wreck?

@@yellowpete79 No in the 70's we were not allowed to go to direction island, Things most likely have changed now that Australia has taken over the island? I would say that you can now?

Hi ,I have a fork with the Emden's crest on it . The prongs are somewhat rusted as they were probably exposed to sea water, the stem and crest are great condition. One of the pieces of memorabilia

These ideals were left behind in the same war. Mustard and chlorine gas, flamethrowers et al. The science of killing leapt forward a great deal in the Great War.

Partially disagreed,as there is no honor or valour in flying false flags.

a brilliant takeaway from this story. honor despite war. this guy is great....

A stunningly good phrase.

That about sums up war.

Both excellent descriptive adjectives. What adjective can be used to describe what will be called the Third World War? I can't come up with anything sufficient...

@@sproctor1958 if you're black pilled, you might call it finality.

Ex quarantine yatch

That sounds like a pretty interesting story in itself.

They "just" sailed it 1000 kms to Jakarta. Which is still impressive. After arriving in Yemen their story continued. They had to fight, negotiate and walk their way through the Arabian Peninsula. Pretty interesting story.

Don’t all great stories involve pirates?

Once lost from Pandora's box it can never be regained, sadly. This was a brilliant story though!

Tnx I thought he said Carter's coal.

@@Tubluer No...that's liver pills.

@@Rickinsf But I thought they made you go fast

The correct name for "Cardiff coal" is Anthracite. Coal's with different carbon content have names . Anthracite is the highest grade at about 95% carbon content, it produces little ash when it burns and was mined in large quantities in the mines of S.Wales. Most poor coal described as "Brown coal" avaliable in large quantities in Germany, China and India, has a much lower carbon content and the impurities reduced the boiler efficiency.

@@steveclarke6257 Tnx for the info!

I didn't know that they put the horses down. That just breaks my heart. I'm an animal lover to the Core.

Killed the horses.

He wanted a quick death for the burden that he could not take care of. If the horses were left to swim until exhaustion it would have been cruel.

That's an interesting post! All these years later and tid bits of history survive in people's minds. Is the storey well known there?

@@olliefoxx7165 yeah! In Tamil Nadu, people still reference to that incident even after these many years. It was taught for us in schools too since an Indian revolutionary also served on the Ship. That ship has become a legend in our state.

@@chandrasekharan9724 Ive been very pleasantly surprised to learn of India's role in naval matters. India has a very good navy with a glorious record. I suppose if an ocean is named after your country having a top rate navy is required.😀

Actually, it is the other way around. Family name followed by “-Emden”. Ps: I think it is an insult to name one of these horrible K130s after a distinguished ship like SMS Emden.

They might be birds, but they're not stupid. They know war means death, death means food. Swooping down upon the men that fought, waiting until the dying mens' corpses don't fight back to eat the soft things first. Like the eyeballs.

I saw a documentary on the Great war, rows of wounded soldiers outside a casualty clearing station were beating off magpies that were pecking at their bandages.

@@Face2theScr33n Oh, I know full well they're not stupid and I spent hours as a child observing crows. They are both fascinating and quite entertaining. And, under the circumstances you cite, menacing and gruesome. Hence their place in our folklore and even, perhaps, in our subconscious.

@@BlueBaron3339 The horrors men have suffered. God help us.

@@Face2theScr33n At our own hands, too. The birds just happened to be there.

There's a German miniseries about it.

and even more impressive story if you ask me

@@mikepette4422 Depends on who you're asking. Ask an Aussie and they'll tell lyou that both HMAS Sydneys were as iconic as you could get. Ask a German and they'll probably tell you that navigating halfway around the globe through hostile waters can't be beat.

And an episode about Julius Lauterbach, another officer from Emden. Taken prisoner by the British, he escaped from prison in Singapore, then made his way home to Germany via Manila, Shanghai, Nagasaki, Honolulu, San Francisco, New York, Oslo and Copenhagen. He walked through the front door of his home on 15th October 1915!

I have van der Vat's "The Last Corsair", not sure if they're same/similar but an excellent read.

The only exception might be "Sundae?"

That would be a good one

Be a great story

I think I heard that part of the story on one of the great war channel videos, that was neat

That would be a great one! That story is probably even more interesting.

Just finished " Swan of the east" , an older book about the Emden and crew. Simply well written and thoroughly enjoyable read.

ahhh yes thanks for reminding me about that.

The ending of this saga is not quite as is reported in this presentation and is worthy of some consideration. Emden had ceased to fire at 1115 hrs. With the Emden firmly aground ( as Muller reports) and shot to pieces and burning in many places, Glossop fires two more broadsides just as she runs aground. Sydney gives chase of the Buresk (Emden's collier) which she catches some 1 hour later. Buresk scuttles herself. Sydney has towed two boats from the Buresk, which pick up Emden survivors in the water. On returning to the Emden, Emden was still flying her ensign, Sydney ask by signal "Will you surrender" to which Glossop received in morse " What signal, no signal book" (von Muller's report to Krieg zur See 1914-18) Sydney then makes in morse " Do you surrender and "have you received my signal?" to which Glossop gets no answer. The question would be : Does the flying of the Ensign which under Naval tradition suggests a non-surrender negate the obvious situation that Emden cannot return fire.? As Emden was not able to fire/ defend herself , how where they able to surrender? You could only surrender if you are capable of injury to the enemy? -Sydney The German officers from the Buresk suggested that von Muller would never surrender and so Sydney fired again on Emden. Emden hauled down her ensign and managed to put a white flay whereupon Sydney ceased firing. The Emden had not been firing during the last stage of the battle just before she ran aground, nor when Sydney returned from rescuing Buresk's crew. A fairly poignant point. Sydney then sent a boat to Emden with no attempt to rescue survivors but a message that she needed to see what had happened on Direction Island. ( Freedom of the Sea/Law of the Sea? ) On landing at Colombo Interestingly Lieutenant J G Geerdes and 48 crew were taken to Australia as POW's. The remainder ended up in Malta . Naval officers, like Captain Glossop, are bound by the duty, Humanitarian Imperative, especially when encountering survivors at sea. It is a legal and ethical obligation that takes precedence over other considerations ie Strategic or Tactical. Is this a logical/ fair argument/ statement? Cheers

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Yes! And its on you tube....very good movie! Its called" men of Emden"

Or the dimwit civilian standing beside him saying "oh firworks, how lovely."

That's very interesting! So the Japanese were guarding the troops of nations it would be at war with less than 3 decades later.

Some justification for that decision could be the larger more capable ship given the primary task of remaining with and protecting the convoy, the main task of the escort.

I think for the British, this was personal...they and the Aussies wanted this ship sunk and didn't want want to hand the job off

The Ibuki was a semi-battlecruiser that had a top speed of 22 kts. The Sydney was a Town class light cruiser that had a top speed of 25 kts. Having received the warning from the Cocos Islands , it made sense to send the fastest ship avaiable to prevent the Emden from escaping.

@@olliefoxx7165 Yes. It's reputed that Billy Hughes' refusal (he was Australia's Prime Minister at the time) to provide a place for Japan at the 1919 Versailles Peace negotiations embittered them so much that Japan became the enemy of the West.

From your wording I'm a bit confused. Did the Germans sink the 2 Brit cruisers or did the German squadron sink the cruisers?

@@olliefoxx7165 The German squad gets sank at Falkland. Up to that point, they had success off the coast of Chile "Battle of Coronel" I feel like there might have been some drama with the neutral ports of Chile, but might be confusing it with something else.

@@MarkVrem Thanks for the info. That's a bit of history I didn't know about and must read more about. 👍✌️

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." I'm not sure who said this.

@@graceamerican3558 Samuel Clemens, aka "Mark Twain"

@@stevedietrich8936 Thank you.

That corroboration could be legendary!

I think he did the WW2 version of this also where a more modern HMAS Sydney is involved.

Hell yes

@@MarkVrem yes he did. And that exchange ended in the loss of the Sydney. That was a bad loos in that the Allies could ill afford the loss of a cruiser in that early stage of the Pacific war.

Yes, I agree it is a wonderful book.

Imagine the leaders of two warring countries having a duel or some sort of competition, instead of thousands of men dying in battle!

The horses who were shot, or who were merely drowned, might disagree about the honor of the German ship, captain and crew.

Drach has done one of his "five' minute guides on the Emden as well.

When he got to that part, I confused it with the WW2 HMAS Sydney. Had a wait a minute... moment.

This!!

Good suggestion.