Good comparison.

Irwin Allen had talking carrots on Lost In Space.

Whatever happens, "I'll be right down".

Indeed-I am sure there were many outtakes of such...

It’s called “acting” and it used to be more important that the special effects because audiences used to have something called “imagination.”

Let's not get carried away, strong baby. My Dad back in that day used the same argument of 'imagination' as why old-time radio was superior to TV. Acting? Nope, it's called suspension of disbelief, and CGI has made that much easier in recent days. I don't disagree with this digital world being a challenge to individual imaginations, but even green screens task the acting skills of modern actors as much as Irwin Allen's silly creatures did...@@strongheart8

Crane sent Kowalski back to work because Kowalski runs the entire ship.

​@@goldabernstein1215 Kowalsky Should be promoted Captain. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

He can even be knocked out and lose consciousness once or twice a day, and he just keeps right on going!

he also drives a 440 white challenger!

He was a messenger/courier on a motorcycle in "Hail to the Chief".

If V.T.T.B.O.T.S Wasn't on a Tight Budget & If Irwin Allen wasn't So Cheap the costumes could almost Look real. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@davidwesley2525Alas, Irwin would have spent a mint on the series if he HAD the money. The Cash was allotted by the Sponsors, the Network, the Investors and the Studio. Irwin himself didn't have the bank account to put this on. He could only "direct".

Appreciate your analysis here. It's been easy for Irwin's critics to dismiss the shows entirely, but fans should Appreciate the technical skill in putting these shows on. The "creatures" are often underappreciated but as I often offer, WHO did this costuming better? I doubt the critics could even now.

@@davidwesley2525 'Cheap'? The pilot for Lost In Space was the most expensive ever made up to that time. Every episode of Land Of The Giants cost a quarter of a million. That's 'cheap'.?

WOW ! 😅😅😅 I Didn't Know Irwin Allen was so Generous. 😅😅😅​@@MrPeterbs

Touche .....

Well, that was Sci-Fi for you back in the 60s and 70s 🤗

Fascinating. And true.

You're absolutely right about the walls. I've noticed sometimes when a monster throws a crewman against one of the corridor walls or there's a fight among the crewmen when they also hit a wall, the walls easily move as if the walls are made of plywood or something similar. Since you mentioned the steel hatch doors, I strongly believe they were made out of wood because in one episode I noticed the wood grain on it. It was a hatch door going into the laboratory.

True!😮

@@hg27 I saw that !!!! We forget its Hollywood...... So we know set designs are flimsy , but let's not crash through walls and see the flapping paper ! Guessing this is part of classic T.V. ........still fun and entertaining . Good day !

@@hotknight1335 yes, still fun and entertaining! Have a good day as well. 👍😁

Greetings to you! Where is BCN? I apologize for asking...

@@TooleManTV BCN is the acronym for Barcelona. Spain😉👌

@@juancarlosgiraltnavarro1406 Thanks for that info!

😄 Yes, he was a "rock star."

​@@TooleManTV🤦‍♀️

@@TooleManTV could have had a career in wrestling…The Rock.

​@@SherwoodyFinishing Move the Rock Pile Driver 😅😅😅

@@davidwesley2525 that’s one thing that we can take for granite.

You mean teenager! I seriously hope!

Too high and drunk to learn how to spell?

Yes, I nerd out a lot on that, trying to figure out just how "big" it could be in "reality". I'm suspecting that the packagers didn't give this matter much consistent thought, leaving it to the fans. A marine engineer once said that a submarine could be of any size called for, but that construction facilities presently are equipped only to build a 700 foot craft possibly.

Watch Doctor Who. 😂😂😂😂

Will Robinson asked that same question in "Invaders From the Fifth Dimension".

Definitely!

Irwin Allen TV shows were produced by 20th Century Fox, same studio that released The Day the Earth Stood Still. This same music was used for the Time Tunnel episode about the ghost of Nero.

They had to exchange "Tom Clancy" for that incredible Zoo they came up with. Great menagerie of creatures.

Actually it didn't really impact ratings that much since it was always up against Disney on NBC in the exact same time slot. It always came in second or third place. As Terry Becker said years later, it was amazing the show lasted four seasons. In fact there was talk of a fifth season before Irwin went ahead with 'Land Of The Giants'.

I'm still studying this situation, but apparently the first season approach wasn't as buoyant during season 2. According to all the available reports, the audience wanted it all Under Water and with ...something "Fishy" every week, apparently. According to author Marc Cushman, there was HEAVY pressure to save money and bring on the beasts to scare up an audience. Even before the shift to Sunday, ABC is reputed to have requested a more free wheeling format, to keep the show, in their view, "more competitive". I'm torn -- I like both variants...

@@AdmiralNelson1000 Well either way, the show never won the time slot on Sundays at 7 pm. I thought the 2nd Season was the best and liked how they briefly tried to cash in on the 'Man From UNCLE' craze.

@@MrPeterbs Greetings and thank you for weighing in on the Seaview s peccadilllos. Indeed Irwin and ABC had initially expected Voyage to be a commanding hit, but it's success is based on simply surviving the seasons (true of most of our fantasy favorites). You likely know all this -- season 1 Monday 730, in command through Jan.65. NBC shifts another freshman, UNCLE Man, to the 8PM slot midseason where it chips away at Voyage's lead. This prompted move for year 2 to Sunday 7pm. According to Voyage fan studies, the move slogged --CBS s Lassie, My Favorite Martian, NBCs Disney had the initial commanding lead. Voyage, according to the lore, rallied only when "surface intrigue stories" were retired (the ones you noted). I really liked those. Obviously UNCLE is credited with inspiring them, but just MO (and I DO love UNCLE warts and all) the Voyage "intrigue tales" were better crafted, tighter stories. What Voyage in many ways was "all about"...superpower rivalry post WW2...Anyway, more underwater Voyage = improved numbers and interestingly My Favorite Martian was dropped by CBS. Season 3 supposedly opened to BIG numbers as the "monster rally" and that hyperactive pace bagged audiences. CBSs replacement for Martian, It's About Time, didn't scare up viewers and its said that the Disney hour was experiencing initial fall doldrums with Walt's absence as host. But it is said too that by early 67 when the next season schedule was being considered, that VBS was "on the bubble". According to a 3 part article in UK's Infinity magazine, VBS Squeaked by with a renewal because sponsors were satisfied and the network was pleased with the "demographics". If you haven't seen them, I'd recommend the books by Marc Cushman covering Voyage, Lost In Space and Star Trek OS. They're pricey so I only have the Voyages. Cushman has come under criticism for coming up with numbers suggesting that ST OS was "really a BIG hit"; vintage press reports say otherwise. Still, his Voyage books tell of the astounding stories of Voyage's Battles of the Budget, and how these affected the course the show took, offer ratings which appear to be accurate, etc. Season 4 reports are a mixed bag, suggesting that the effort was getting waterlogged BUT still had a lot of energy and potential left to it. (Never stated anywhere but Voyage's slow start out the gate in fall 67 was, my "educated guess", due to the considerable popularity of CBS s new Gentle Ben.)

Glad you're aboard!

Thank heavens it didn't explode in his hand. Loved your comment!

Irwin Allen's pitch to ABC for the show stressed one word - "Action!". This episode showed that he was true to his word.

You are either a small child, or you're just being funny. 😮

​@@albertrandall2271Or being VERY appreciative!😅

It is also interesting, the music score before they see the rock creature, it's from the 1959 movie journey to the center of the earth, with James Mason and Pat Boone. Both music scores are from the late great Bernard Herman, I am not sure if I spelled his last name right, but I think you know who I am talking about, good old Bernard he scored a lot of movies and TV shows.

A couple did yes

And the stone guy on star trek when they met Abe Lincoln fighting the Klingons

Also check for the old Hollywood Palace excerpt where David Hedison and a Fossil Man are guests with Milton Berle as a daffy Crewman. It's not a color print unfortunately but still fun. Again what's posted is not the whole hour but is just the wonderful Voyage spoof.

@@easternsuneasternsun171 That actually was a completely different creature. Not remotely related to the 'fossil man' thing which was a costume being worn by an actor. The 'Savage Curtin' entity was more of an animated rock structure.

"If we can find the right frequency on the penis gun, we stand a chance!!"

You got a point there 😅

​@@jackpayne5101Now I Can't Unsee That anymore. 😅😅😅

I noticed that too.

Thanks for the upload.

He also appeared in one of the Joker episodes on Batman in the the second season of the series as one of Joker's goons. And also in one of the Julie Newmar Catwoman episodes as one of her goons as well. I just don't recall the title of the episodes at moment.

In direction, camerawork, editing, stunts and even music that fight scene between Catron and William Windom (Decker) is surpassingly well done. No doubles as far as I can tell, and though the actors doubtless had to pull their punches they looked like they enjoyed hauling off at each other in character.

You'll likely find Jerry Catron doing "extra" work on Star Trek Original. He's also the "Buccaneer" in another year 3 Voyage, "Night of Terror". If recall serves, he may also have a brief role as a Crewman guarding a radioactive cargo from a "possessed" Admiral Nelson in year 4s "Terror".

I like the the high powered soldering iron 😳

Radio shack had those....😽

Lots of high ique stoners.

The Storms and Sparks and Tumult were special order fast food from the Powers that Be. The show was high cost at the outset and for year 3 it was ordained due to budget cuts to be a high action, ear pounding roller coaster ride for the early Sunday night kids' dinner hour audience. Trick was to rouse Junior away from Lassie and Disney. Yes, upon conclusion of the series I'd like to have Seaview hauled into drydock and thoroughly examined.

True. Richard Basehart is often the cast member most likely to stifle a grin.

The theme music for voyage to the bottom of the Sea was one of the best theme musics of any TV show .

@@albertrandall2271 it certainly was well thought out ,and absolutely nailed by the magicians.

Yes, theme and other scoring musically were big draws to vintage series.

@@AdmiralNelson1000 well said 👍

This episode also uses cues from another Fox film 'The Enemy Below'. Herrmann's movie cues were heard in all of Irwin's shows with the one exception of Land Of The Giants.

came to the comment section to mention that myself. Good catch!

29:14 ​Captain crane David hedison was in the movie The enemy belowHe was also in the 1960 movie The lost world. .​@@MrPeterbs

@@MrPeterbs excuse me, I wasn't flagging you or anyone else, I was just making a comment just like you and everybody else, if other people read my comments about Mr David hedison or anybody else, maybe they learned something that they did not know before. 🤔 Please don't take it personal.

Okay. However you did seem to call me out by with that '@' flag followed by my name. Just saying.

SeaQuest often seen by many as a Voyage "return," whereas some SeaQuest packagers claimed at first that they were "improving" on yesterday's SF. Ratings issues and expenses humbled the SeaQuest staff as they found out the hard way that exotic adventures may be enjoyed by just a core audience of adventure fans. Considering TV economics, it's a wonder that we get shows like these at all.

Why not?

It wouldn't be called the Seaview if it have didn't windows.

A long held observation. The one most likely to venture a snicker is Richard Basehart, if you look closely. David Hedison was known for a snappy sense of humor, but on camera he really covered it up.

And there's a reason you never watched it. 😂😂😂

The Arsonists were the show's bean counters. Note minimal sparking in the first two seasons. Season 3 is out to bag the kids in earnest. Thus the Pounding and the Sparking and the Flames.

That's right! And the clip is on KZfaq.

​@@TooleManTVI saw that clip. It was hilarious!

I think there was one episode where they had to abandon Seaview. I believe this was in Season 1

There was even an offical tv industry term for the shaking at the time. It was called the "Seaview Rock and Roll"!

Which is fairly close to the "Star Trek" pitch and toss-ship takes a hit and the crew falls out of their chairs and roll around the deck.

A busy place, fun if the creatures are chasing someone else😂.

The show, undergoing hefty financial and ratings strain, was being actively aimed at the kids in the Sunday early PM dinner hour where the tots had long been courted there by Lassie and Disney. What you're watching is ABCs "counterprogramming" with Voyage.

Yes. And when the blows fell elsewhere, Patterson got those. Season 4 could be rough on the Chief (note "Time Lock").

Good One!😅

Yep.

​@@TooleManTVAnd after Voyage was canceled Captain Crane changed his name to Felix Leiter and went to work for the CIA.

They also doubled as life preservers in the event the Flying Sub sustained damage from a water crash.

This season the Doc gets his share of walloping.

I think the creature was Robert Duvall in that one. Had to look up th name. The Invaders.

That was an episode from the first season, it was in black and white, I remember it well.

Seaview Models: Several large and elaborate kits are now available, cost may be an issue. Many "regular" kits made here and abroad (Voyage especially "big" in Japan) vary in design...Consult on line with posted model makers and distributors. The old, original Aurora Seaview has been easy to find though subsequent reissues appear to offer a seemingly smaller kit. The Aurora Flying Sub was elaborate in its day, a little less so now. Custom Flying Subs are an improvement but costly .

It's a curved, refractive periscope. It operates from the control room, yet thru connected portals, it surfaces thru conning tower. The Admiral invented it.....

There was talk about the use of Voyage and Lost In Space in providing foundational material for two 90s shows, SeaQuest and Earth Two. Some of the production staff on both shows acknowledged this, while others were disdainful of 60s shows and claimed that the 9os projects were improvements. What humbled the Universal/Amblin crews was the same problem afflicting 60s SF shows -- tight money, audience ratings, and not fully understanding what the MASS Audience wants to support...

Well Admiral Nelson owns the Seaview, so he can as many large spaces as he wants.

It s sometimes said to be bigger because it was on "special order," but yes the packagers are inconsistent on this matter. The fans are left to "figure it out". Much of the original design was meant to get hefty cameras and the actors through the movie sets, which the TV series inherited. There was also concern over claustrophobia being a problem in the long term, hence some deliberate design for "wide open spaces".