VR, Triples or Ultrawide? | How to decide for yourself
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Күн бұрынVIrtual Reality vs triple monitors vs ultrawide. Screens are the hottest topic in sim racing! I give my views which ultimately led me to where I am today. I've used them all and offer my perspective, to empower you to decide for yourself which solution suits you! Grab a cuppa, we've got spreadsheets!!!
Start: 0:00
1. Cost: 2:33
2. PC Friendliness: 4:15
3. Aesthetics: 6:42
4. Graphics: 7:50
5. Compatibility: 8:31
6. Immersion: 9:49
7. Sociability: 12:05
8. Space required: 15:25
9. Setup: 16:46
10. Field of vision: 17:59
11. Enjoyment: 19:59
12. Options: 22:17
Final Scores: 24:25
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@wasabinator Жыл бұрын
I think another category which is important is depth perception, and it's something that VR really excels at.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
yep, this is just a toolset to give people the ammo to make a decision. it's not the answer
@jmsti 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video. A lot of breakdowns. I appreciate you!
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@badme9684 3 жыл бұрын
I have VR for the last 1 year 1/2 and never go back to a screen for racing VR is wow to me:) Thumbs up
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
VR is the most incredible experience and if your purchase and ownership is 100% about the driving, then there's no question that VR is the best, even with its limitations
@jonboy2950 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video with a good summary about all the things to consider. For me I have gone the ultrawide route as i like to have just one large screen with good field of view.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yep it’s so handy for setup and far better to drive on than a small screen. They look amazing too. They just lack in some of the areas that are important to me.
@MasterGynx 2 жыл бұрын
This video may be a year old but it's been super helpful! i've just bought a GT Omega Art sim rig and trying to decide if i use my current triple monitors for it or buy an ultrawide (also have Q2 but get bad motion sickness) this was a super helpful video trying to work out the best options! 10/10
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and Trayvon was useful!!! Thanks for the comment!
@jamesyers1975 3 жыл бұрын
Lol until 3 yrs ago I used a laptop with a 17” external monitor runnin about 50 FPS with everything at low settings.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Bet you still enjoyed it lots though :)
@RotNside 13 күн бұрын
I used to do this with 24fps
@AM-bo5go 2 жыл бұрын
great detailed analysis, thank you.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@trick6579 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid LD and a good scoring system. I think a lot of it also comes down to an individuals personal preference. Also I think set up of each category mentioned is key. Some single screens can look amazing, some crap, same goes for triples and ultrawide etc all depending on how they’ve been set up. Just my thoughts 😁
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yep 100% and that’s why I included single screen in the comparison. It really depends on the setup. Hopefully this video will help people to realise that they can make and educated decision, or even just make them feel good about the decision they already made.
@trick6579 3 жыл бұрын
Laurence Dusoswa Yeh man exactly. No matter the set up just being able to have the options available to us that are available right now is amazing. Sim racing/driving certainly is a good hobby/bug to have and there’s no better time to be involved than right now, knowing that it’s only going to keep getting better. AWESOME!!
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s pretty damn exciting :)
@chrispietersen804 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video LD! Thanks for clearing things up. Not only did Triples score the highest here but also ticked all of the boxes that I am interested in and scored very highly. Coming from someone who has a HTC Vive, your feedback regarding VR is pretty much similar to what I have experienced but my biggest downfall was the lack of clarity in draw distance due to your eyes right against the pixels making it difficult to focus on corners way up ahead. I'm sold on the triples and will be shopping, which brand and size would you recommend?
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
My old 75hz monitors were great value. They are the acer KG271 monitors. The new ones are curved 32” 144hz beasts. The aoc CQ32G1. Also on the VR front, you need to try the rift S 😅 might make you question your view on VR again :p
@PadraigDoran 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very detailed. You mentioned VR with a gaming laptop. You could look at a mini ITX build. You can fit a lot of power into a small portable box.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m looking to work with a gaming laptop company to be honest :) for performance yeah I could build something small.
@EvilHeadBoy Жыл бұрын
I've had a Rift S for years and am considering getting an ultrawide. The main reason is that some games I'm interested in don't support VR at all. The other reason is VR locks you in, making it very inconvenient to do anything else, and sharing the experience with others could lead to motion sickness. Ultimately I still enjoy VR a lot, but it just requires a bigger hurdle to get in and have fun. I appreciate the separate scoring from category to category. Makes comparing much easier.
@arjankremer8229 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Laurence, nice video! For a more personal decision: add a weighing factor per subject. Some do not need social at all or immersion is the most important. So adding a weighing factor could help. Maybe cost is not an issue, but room space is. Some say, with VR I am faster because getting the corner correct is more easy. Not sure if that makes sense, I have seen aliens with an 27" monitor.... I use ultrawide (21:9) and VR. But VR (oculus CV1, new HP reverb G1 underway) only for fun and immersion together with motion. Sorry for the other short comments.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought about putting a weighting but it would have been quite complicated :) thanks for the more detailed comment :) I’m quicker with VR too for sure. I feel quicker anyways 😂
@insidethreewide7133 Жыл бұрын
I like your scoring system. Your opinions line up much like my own. I currently own a Pimax 5KI Plus and 8KX and a 65-inch curved Samsung TV. I am currently using my TV because of the quality and my new Simagic DD with the Gt4 rim with all the buttons mapped. Kind of a struggle in VR obviously. I thought about selling my 8KX and opting for a triple setup or an ultra-wide. After seeing this video, I'll save my money and upgrade to triples, most likely 32-inch monitors and keep my Pimax. Still not sure, but this video has given me a few things to think about! Thanks for taking the time! Liked and subbed.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
Triples with VR is the golden setup for me
@yumyum7309 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video. Greetings from France 👌👍
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome! Hope it helped
@nikolaoskal7438 3 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis. I would drop "Options" and combine "Setup" and "Combatibility, So my scores are 68, 75, 79, 65. Which confirms my experience with VR, it was atrocious.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! It’s a controversial subject so I wanted to approach it with some tools to empower people rather than forcing opinions on people. If I was gaming on my own m without a stream i’d be on VR 😂
@David-nb2bc 2 жыл бұрын
I went from triples to VR and never looked back. The immersion is just too much to give up. Who cares about how my rig look and I don't invite anyone over. We usually play online together anyways. So VR is my pick overall because of the immersion.
@kolysion164 2 жыл бұрын
@@David-nb2bc I went from VR to Triple, and I never look back, Monitor for life.
@raphabastos Жыл бұрын
I've been racing in VR since 2017 and now I'm considering going back to triples. VR is amazing in immersion but it's not good if you want to stream or even record your races. The other fact that is making me consider the change is how hot VR can be. I live in Brazil, so we have 40C in summer, which makes racing in VR totally uncomfortable unless you always turn the air condition on
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
I know many who have made the switch back. Come in to my discord, I'm sure you can ask them for advice and perspective
@mercenarysaw 11 ай бұрын
Agree the VR does gets hot. So now I'm adding triples for summer time racing. That's why I'm here.
@raphabastos 11 ай бұрын
@@mercenarysaw Yeah.. I did the change and I've been racing on triples for 4 months. I don't regret but sometimes I miss the immersion. But now I can have a button box, a simdash, and some other gadgets in my setup
@_xndrzt 3 жыл бұрын
I went from triple 24.5 to a 49uw, best decision ever. I thought the lateral stretch would have been a problem, but I noticed it just the first few hours of use. I also have it very close to my pov, so I have to say uw was a great decision indeed.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Yeah man it suits some people better than others. It’s nice not having bezels but i also don’t notice bezels on my triples. The 49” monitors are beasts. I do miss seeing cars pull up alongside me though.
@_xndrzt 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa bezels and cables are exactly the main reasons that made me change, also performance is a great plus imho
@thinlinefan 3 жыл бұрын
Which monitor type do you have? And would you buy it again? I'm searching for one.
@roadi7 3 жыл бұрын
I switched from single and multiple monitors to super ultra wide and love it ~ there's nothing like it
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet :)
@256k_ 2 жыл бұрын
great video! i can definitely confirm that with even a modestly priced VR headset like the quest 2 you can have a immensely enjoyable sim driving experience and you absolutely get transported into the virtual car you're in. an advantage of that over triples is if you like to experience different cars and different types of cars (open wheelers, GT, vintage...etc) your triple monitor cockpit setup might not really match the visuals you get, where as in VR you are 100% in that car. there's nothing more fun than driving old F1 cars in VR. having said that. VR is definitely weak visually compared to triple monitors, and games are not really suited for VR in many ways since it's a niche demographic. there are sacrifices you have to accept in order to use VR.. something else about VR taht is amazing and impossible to realize with any other setup: Depth perception. in VR you can tell exactly where everything is and how far everything is, on a screen it's all flat. hope this helped someone.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment! Thanks :)
@simonwall23 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Laurence 👌 As a person that wears glasses, I've always found VR very troublesome. Your review is 100% correct, the immersion is absolutely incredible with VR! I found a real issue wearing glasses, coupled with VR. I bought an ultra wide 49" and my eyes have thanked me since. Interested to hear your view as a fellow glasses wearer!?
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I had no issues with my glasses with any of the headsets I ever owned or used. However, I wear my glasses quite close to my face and the frames are always quite small so maybe that’s the difference
@David-nb2bc 2 жыл бұрын
I wear contact lens so VR is no issue for me. For some people, contacts is no go so I understand. There always lasik?
@nialltolan2710 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Be interesting to compare the 49" 1000r monitors when they fix the teething issues
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely. I’ve toyed with maybe getting one but can’t justify the expense right now
@frozenragu 2 жыл бұрын
The 49" monitors are too small
@darkphunk4436 3 жыл бұрын
Waw...man, got my brain all swelled up of info. Excellant content buddy keep it up👌
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
😂 good! Hahahaha thanks for the comment :) glad you enjoyed it!
@45eno 3 жыл бұрын
I have a odd triple setup but trying out a 32:9 this weekend due to the downsides of triples. Current have [27”] [ 34” ] [27”] with a [ 25” ] on the top. Nvidia doesn’t support mixed aspect ratio monitors so I have only been gaming on my 34” for a while. When I had AMD it worked properly but the difference between the panels even though very very close still had tearing on the side screens. Look forward to trying 49” for simple use but will have to give up 4 separate screens for the 49” with 25” or 34” on top of it.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve always used the same size screens for that reason. It makes like a lot easier :p
@eveoable 3 жыл бұрын
great vid. after considering much of the same factors (less so setup, aesthetics, or graphics), i went with a pimax 5k+ because of the 144hz and 200 FOV specifically for iRacing. i heard its overall pretty shit and has a ton of issues but i figure getting it working for iracing at low graphics cant be that hard and pretty much every video of simracing with the pimax convinced me to get it. triple mirrors in view without moving my head? sweet! been watching a lot of triples/ultrawide footage and i would have gone with a proper big ultrawide but after looking at the specs of the monitors i want id need to shell out about 1.5 - 2x what i did for the headset for much less immersion/advantage online. the only real advantage in this scenario if i got an ultrawide would be the 1ms but thats not going to make or break races i dont think
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing insight! It’s really cool to hear people’s experiences and what’s important for them. Thanks for taking the time to post the comment here! I know you posted on the reddit post already :)
@lennertvertongen7765 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently running a triple 27” on a single arm, so I love it but... the fact that they’re all connected to 1 arm causes the screens to nor really wrap around. So I am going to buy 3 arms separately to make them wrap around more.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah being a lot to wrap them slightly is really nice. It makes a big difference!
@paulneskow3504 4 ай бұрын
I'm just getting into Sim Racing. Long ago I drove Forza on a MS machine. Interesting, but things have progressed considerably since then. I was initially going to get VR goggles, but when you added it all up, it became more expensive than triples. AND you still ended up solitary - no one else can see what you do. I personally think you give singles and wide-screen too much credit. I have used both. They DO give you ease of set-up but otherwise they lack enough definition. VR, for instance, allows you to turn your head and check next to you. You actually DO THAT in a REAL RACING CAR, but you can't with single screen. Drove me nuts back in Forza. The question everyone asks is FOV. NOTHING in sim racing mimics a real race. That's because your eye watches the guy infront of you as you approach the corner, then shifts down the straight when you are coming out of the corner. You cannot change that on a monitor. Closest you come is picking an intermediate distance that gives you enough detail up close yet still lets you look down the track. When VR can make THAT switch, it will be time to junk the triples and go to VR. But we're not there yet I don't believe. Thanks at least for attempting a serious comparison.
@wvlf00 8 ай бұрын
Important for me is seeing the car's exterior mirrors and with 3 monitors it is possible.
@LaurenceDusoswa 8 ай бұрын
Yep that’s my main reason for loving triples
@advanceddarkness3 8 ай бұрын
VR is cool and all, and im sure its improved since my last headset (CV1) but I like spatial awareness if im gaming for hours.
@Generative_Midi_ 11 ай бұрын
This is hilarious. I might do a video and manipulate the results to justify my favourite monitor set up too!
@LaurenceDusoswa 11 ай бұрын
The whole point is that you can do whatever points you want. The video is literally “how to decide for yourself”. So your comment is the one that’s hilarious 😂
@Generative_Midi_ 11 ай бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa You've literally missed the entire point of my comment hahaha!!
@jericosha2842 2 жыл бұрын
You've convinced me. I'm just going to go triples. I want to share it with my brother, so this is the best value and enjoyment. The only issue I can see is if I want to play on console.
@Havok412 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can do tripples on console? I could be wrong maybe they've changed since then.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
yeah Kouki is correct. You can't do triples on console but you could switch over one of your monitors every time you want to use console
@Dozaiya 3 жыл бұрын
the decision was easier for me as i couldn't overcome the motion sickness with VR
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that can happen and it’s a pity :( hopefully future generations will be better for you but it’s kinda like if you get sick on rollercoasters, you can’t really grow out of it
@MrFrosty888 2 жыл бұрын
i have well over 15 years in pc sim racing and i went with vr last year almost a year basically and i cant race on screens any more. VR i get the feel i am driving the car thru the corner and i dont get that feel on screens and with pc power in current world we live in vr is my way and only way, great vid and lets go racing sim racers
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
yep VR is absolutely incredible for the experience of driving!
@busterbrown1686 3 жыл бұрын
VR hands down. Nothing beats the immersion, seeing the different details of inside of cars seeing a body , feet pushing the pedals and a hand go from steering wheel to shifter. poke your head out the window looking at the back incredible. You mention $300 cost of VR head set, how much do 3 screens cost plus electricity (minor but an addition) ? 3 screens has limited plausible application, while VR head set has a vast array of games PC or on board, where you look around and react in a different world. Sim plane flying, sim, tanks, sim truck driving, boats, roller coaster, walking dead, helicopter, star wars, on and on and on.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I love VR :) I think it’s the best driving experience. You can buy screens cheap for $100 easy. They’ll do the trick and your resolution/graphics and peripheral vision will be much better than VR. But you don’t get the immersion of the 3D environment. I don’t disagree with you :)
@piero914 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and it makes me want to vomit after about an hour lol Unfortunate, but true.
@pawesurdyk3243 3 жыл бұрын
fifth option to compare could be a projectors and kind of a sphere capsule screen :)
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know more about them but because I never owned a setup like that, I wouldn’t be able to give a fair comparison
@Xynithos Жыл бұрын
Little late but what if I triples but the middle screen is ultra wide (in my case super ultra wide) with two regular same height as the super ultra wide. So it would be like a real car, one big screen in the middle for the main front view and two on the side for the windows on side. The only problem I have with this is the current super ultra wide I have is outdated and I dont like the fact the height is so small I kind of want to save up for the Odessy Ark which is over kill but I feel like in terms of immersion you cant really beat that. Anyways I'm asking cause it seems like you have an ultra wide(probably not a super ultra wide) but it would help me decide.
@ricardosendes776 2 жыл бұрын
if you're running an nvidia gpu, you can setup your tripple screen setup to a virtual single screener, which makes them compatible with every sim that supports 1 screen, i dont see the score "5" on compatibility
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very aware of that. nVidia surround is a horrible experience and messes with my system loads.
@tomascanny5048 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I don't see discussed as much when comparing the VR vs triples, is having the visibility of your wheel. I think the other negatives of VR are either not a factor for some people (cost, social), or can be put up with (graphics, FOV). But being able to see the wheel, especially nice ones like you have, is one thing I missed when using VR. I'd be interested to get your more experienced thoughts on that aspect.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
For sure, seeing your hardware is a big deal and a massive barrier for some who may be considering VR. Some day there will be the ability to augment your in game view but right now we are limited for sure. the flip side to the argument is that with a decent vr headset you see the things that a real driver sees including their dash and anything that’s on the real car’s steering wheel display. So it doesn’t really matter what hardware you run, you’re closer to reality.
@christopherpope1800 Жыл бұрын
Unless you're skint and me! . Still running a T300, so when in VR I'm convinced I'm gripping whatever ridiculously priced wheel the manufacture deemed appropriate
@ma14.27 3 ай бұрын
Single and triple screen are just the best, especially because you can just upgrade from single to triple. VR doesn't catch me, because headphones are already giving me headaches when I wear them for too long because of the weight. And ultra wide is 32:9 while triple monitors give you 48:9 ratio and if you already have a single screen, buying two additional screens is not more expensive than upgrading to ultra wide.
@Happymars24 2 жыл бұрын
VR gets the max score for immersion. And for me at least, VR is worth 0.5 secs per lap on track compared to my ultrawide monitor. But in VR, i can't see my keyboard and it's hard to see the HUD. So there are trade offs for all options.
@scottthomson700 Жыл бұрын
New sub here. Graet vid laurence. I am building my 1st rig cockpit seat,direct drive, wheel, pedals, all in place PC parts there bar 1. But I am totaly stuck on what triples moniters to get. I went with the simlab intergrated triple stand and the vareo vesa adapters,and a nividea gpu so I need screens that are Gsync 32" 165hz min and will fit onto the vesa plates of the vareo adapters. Samsung G7 look good so far but dont fit the vareos. G5 looks ok but are not Gsync. Honestly I dont know how many hours I have spent trolling the net so far trying to sort this part out? still no where :) look forward to seeing your 32" update. All the best. Scott.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t tell the difference between 144 and 165hz. Hop into my discord, maybe my community can help with your search! They’re pretty damn good
@alibee1978 Жыл бұрын
Great scoring system great channel LD , been racing with vr which I love but can help wanting to move over to triples , I’ve 3080ti to run so any pointers on good triples 32” would be appreciated bud . On another question is there any uk/ireland teams or leagues to join in I think I’d love the banter and craic if there was a few good lads to go race with ?
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
Hop into my discord (link in the description) and we'll advise you about a monitor and you'll find that we run some leagues and are also closely linked with some other community leagues
@alibee1978 Жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa defo , cheers dude it would be great to get pointed it the right direction 👍🏻
@ArthurHau 3 жыл бұрын
VR is the only way that you can see the real depth of the things in front of you. It allows you to be more prepared for turning corners. Monitors can only give you some information of depth by showing objects in different sizes.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you’re right. I have never truly tested if I’m faster in VR but I feel more connected. I race on monitors though and have decent pace most of the time.
@ArthurHau 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Some people say that you can race as fast in either systems. But of course you rely on very different senses under the two systems. In 2D, you really rely on your memory for braking, turning corners, changing gear and so on. In VR, you rely on your own judgement using the real visual image that you see. So, I presume you can drive better using VR even if you are new to a racing track. But that's only my guess.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@h1tzzYT 3 жыл бұрын
For me as a triple user i couldnt get back to single 16:9 monitor setup ever, the only compromise would be ultra wide, i love that with triples you can actually use proper fov, seeing all the apexes and opponents while fighting, immersion is good enough for me and i have 0 plans on going with vr, simply because there are too many negatives with it, one of those are - i cant stand idea of wearing massive brick on my head, also im quite sensitive to nausea, 0 awareness to my surroundings(snacks for the win :D ) and zero versatility outside of gaming. Also i use my triples as main gaming pc and i dont have dedicated rig for that so triples really helps in that, as multi monitor setup is amazing even for day to day use. I might consider vr if it would get to a size of something like sunglasses with perfect resolution, fov, but obviously vr is not gonna be like this for a very long time if ever.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment! I share a lot of your feelings but do feel that VR is worth it for the immersion. If I didn’t stream, most of my racing would be VR
@h1tzzYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh yeah, i personally love euro truck simulator 2 and vr would be amazing on that sim.
@fitnesschefen Жыл бұрын
Okay i have 3080 do i choose 1080p 27” or 1440p? Price is actually the same for screens
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
In 27” 1080 is fine. Both have the same refresh rate
@dogfightdiary5712 10 ай бұрын
Is a Four-Monitor Array doable? I fly open cockpit WW1 aviation sims and I've seen three-monitor setups where a center monitor shows the view ahead and a second and third monitors angled back on the sides show the view to either side; blended to merge when you rotate your head to look around with a head tracker like Track IR. I've also seen four-monitor setups with one at top center, but only used to display the desktop; not the sim. QUESTIONS Is it possible to assign a fourth monitor (above the center monitor and angled back) to show an overhead view of the sky in an "open cockpit" aviation simulation? Will the "wrap around" setting for three multiple monitors also see a fourth one (atop center) as "extra real estate" on which the range of the game image can be extended? I'd like to build an array that will do that. Any info?
@LaurenceDusoswa 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure to be honest :D I've never tried. If they're in a configuration where the height is 1, you can have as many monitors as your graphics card allows and there are ways to fool games which don't natively support it. But once you have one screen outside of the height of the others, it gets very complex.
@Accurize2 Жыл бұрын
Even though I race in VR mostly...don't dismiss a single screen. Jimmers started with just a single and look at him now!
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
I haven't dismissed anything. This is merely my personal preference and the metrics I used to draw conclusions :)
@tphillips777 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a Reverb G2 and agree, VR is great for immersion, but the graphics quality and sociability are terrible by comparison. I am thinking I am going to get a triple set up. I wish TrackIR was better.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like having friends over so screens really suit me. Obviously they're best for content creation too
@256k_ 2 жыл бұрын
did you get a triple screen setup now? curious to see the perspective of someone moving from vr to triple
@OhItsThat 3 жыл бұрын
I started on a single 50 in 1080p TV with TrackIR 5. Once I got my CV1 I couldn’t go back. I bought a 2k, 120Hz, G-Sync 34 in Ultra Wide hoping I could use it for titles that don’t support VR. It’s a beautiful IPS panel but I just can’t use it. In fact I never turn it on. I’ve never tried triples but I’d imagine they would be great. They definitely look the best if it’s set up properly and good looking screens are used. I don’t miss the better graphics with monitors really. The immersion is just too good with VR. I also use a NLR V3 motion platform and in my opinion if I’m moving around and I see things in my environment that aren’t in sync with me it’ll ruin the immersion. I’m really looking forward to the HP Reverb G2 this fall.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! This is exactly the type of perspective that the people watching this video need. Thanks for taking the time for such a well structured comment!
@OhItsThat 3 жыл бұрын
Laurence Dusoswa Yeah man. I honestly hope people don’t think they can’t have a great looking setup if they only use VR. It’s not true. For me, part of sim racing is the hardware, it’s the setup. It’s the pride we take in setting up our chassis and rooms we keep them in. I pretty much have it all and can’t see any of it while using VR. But for the remaining 23 hours a day I’m not in VR I get to look at something really cool.
@h1tzzYT 3 жыл бұрын
FYI acc supports proper triple screen setup, its been patched quiet some time ago.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I want it without Nvidia surround though
@h1tzzYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa yeah nvidia surround can be irritating especially if you use triples not only for simracing/gaming. I personally use program called "helios display manager" its a time saver for me, with it you can setup custom profiles for triple setup nvidia surround and without it, so you are basically left with two icons for two setups, click on your desired and it will configure to you automatically.
@SlowBloke123 3 жыл бұрын
Got a 34 ultrawide, Valve Index and Oculus Rift S - no space for triples or 49 inch ultrawide. Ideally Id have triples and VR. Monitor only for ACC though - if VR was decent in that Id probably be in VR exclusively. What surprises me in VR I choose the Rift S over the Index mostly. Oculus software means ASW is very very useable so I can turn up the eye candy. Motion Reprojection in the Index is not usable at all. Thats with a 6700k . 2080ti maybe with a 3080/3090 & 10900k I would be in the index as I do love the extra fov...
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
That’s really useful insight! Space is a big concern for many but t sounds like you’re making the most of what you have. I haven’t had the pleasure of using an index yet. I have a rift s and have ordered the quest 2. I’ll be excited to see how that performs for sim racing.
@SlowBloke123 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa closely watching the quest 2 aswell. If pc link works well it should be great for sim racing :)
@BOTICSELLI 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! 🙂 Very very helpful 💭 video. 👍
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear, thanks for watching!
@Reazy- 7 ай бұрын
For me a tripple is really expensive because ill need a tripple monitor stand (300€) then an monitor 200€ so i might pick up. Ultrawide for like 300
@LaurenceDusoswa 7 ай бұрын
good point. The stand is not taken into account here
@Inojer 3 жыл бұрын
Great and interesting video! Just one thing ACC does support triples out of the box. And quite well :)
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
It supports Nvidia surround, right? But not native triples like Assetto corsa
@Inojer 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Yeah, I guess I think of native support like the game has separate projection for each monitor with no distortion and such. But ok with your definition of native you are absolutely right :) Btw do AC have really native support then? To my knowledge only Project Cars 2 didn't need nVidia surround but I have to check the AC support again :D
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah technically speaking, every game is ‘supported’ but Nvidia surround but that not a pleasant experience and effectively renders the same as an Ultrawide.
@pstoppani 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa AC and ACC support triples by correctly projecting three cameras onto the three screens even though nvidia makes them look like a single ultrawide. It is the same visually as supporting triples "natively". There is no difference. You can do the same thing with the super ultra wides like the G9. So, I'd argue AC and ACC support is better, more flixible, than PC2's native support since you can't make an ultrawide behave like triples in PC2. The only advantage of native triples is that you can have monitors of differing sizes.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
You need to use Nvidia surround for ACC triples support. That’s a deal breaker for me.
@umarism081 3 жыл бұрын
i have both rift s and 27 triple screen..i love vr bcoz of the immersion..but what annoys me is that i cant wear the vr for longer period as it is very uncomfortable after some time..
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that's a problem for some. I often did 3hr+ stints in VR and enjoyed it without comfort issues, and I wear glasses. It's different for everyone though.
@KettunenJ 3 жыл бұрын
BS. I wear it on 24h iracing many h
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Just because you can do it for longer doesn’t make it suited to everyone :) it definitely doesn’t make it BS
@TangoDown357 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid.. subbed and notified! I tried VR, but it wasn't for me. I do however believe it is the future of Sim Racing, it's just not quite there yet IMO. I think a few more years it'll be just right. For now though I am completely sold on triples. The problem is I can't decide what size and resolution to go with. I'm torn between 32" 1440p.. or.. 27" 1080p. Im running an Evga FTW 2080ti, with an I9 9900KS at 5ghz.. no overclock, and plenty of cooling. Do you think the dip in FPS is worth the larger FOV and higher resolution of the 32's, or would you suggest staying with 1080p to get a smooth FPS on 27"? I know it's somewhat subjective, and a hard question to answer, but you seem to have so much experience across the spectrum I figured you'd be a good person to ask. Thank you for your time, and excellent content!
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I run triple 32” 1440p with a 2080 AORUS and it does fine for AC and iRacing. I run a 9700K liquid cooled at 5.0ghz. Got for the larger screens and better resolution. Are the refresh rates good?
@TangoDown357 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I realize the way I phrased my original comment sounds confusing. Sorry about that Lol. I don't have triples yet. I'm in the market for triples, trying to decide between 1080p at 27" or 1440p at 32". If I settle for 1080p I might be around 100fps in most sims, which sounds great, but then pixel density would be a concern at 27". I'd love to go with 1440p but don't know what to expect in terms of FPS. Which 1440p monitors did you go with, if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like we have pretty similar hardware. Thank you so much for your time, and response!
@llTheGoose 3 жыл бұрын
I've personally found since switching from VR to triples, that I do personally find a bit more enjoyment in triples. A couple of main factors have made this decision for me, such as using VR in summer generally becomes uncomfortable, as does using VR in endurance racing where you will be in the car for over 90 minutes. Not to say you can't do it though
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, and again purists will argue that being in a real race car and wearing a helmet isn’t comfortable. I think that enjoyment is the most subjective one on the list and really ultimately all the things I examine feed into your overall enjoyment too. Thanks for your insight, it will really help people to make their decision
@llTheGoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh mate no doubt, and I guess the hot summer's here in Australia, in VR, will be almost as close to real life racing 🤣 but to argue with purists, helmets also have air and drink in, whereas VR doesn't 🤷♂️
@RabbitConfirmed 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Playing VR for a longer period of time is just not as fun, because it's exhausting and uncomfortable after some time. Playing with normal screens is much more chill.
@lordomacron3719 Жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa ah the ultimate would be a racing helmet that has VR built in. I’m sure it can be done.
@Mcorpmike 3 жыл бұрын
i had triple , wide and VR....for me the widescreen and vr are best together, my wide screen LG32 1080p was dead cheap.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! How come you prefer the wide over triples?
@Mcorpmike 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa i find it easy getting in the rig and still having the benefits of a wider screen. plus i have mine build (with dampers)on the motion rig as well.
@YayDanMan 3 жыл бұрын
Feels like forever since I used a single screen since choosing a Rift S, but in reality it’s only been 7 months 😅 Generally I’d agree with your breakdowns, though perhaps more explicitly defining what ultrawide is - 21:9 is the generally accepted ratio for UW, 32:9 panels (i.e. the 49” monitors) are branded as super UW - May have been helpful, given how much more horizontal screen space you get with 32:9 over 21:9? However my only 21:9 experience is a 25” panel which has such little vertical height that it wasn’t super impressive So having experienced various single screens and VR at home plus a friend’s triples, the plan is to go 49” next, to lower the performance requirements and to free up GPU ports for displays at my adjacent desk
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment man, thanks for taking the time. I’m referring to 32:9 1440p ultrawide here. I’ve owned smaller 21:9 ultrawides too but they’re closer to a traditional single screen. You’re right about the vertical space, however it’s still a lot smaller than if you run triples. Maybe you get more pixels, but you do sacrifice height.
@its-kapucha 3 жыл бұрын
Nice material, unexpected results heh. Do You have 27 inch screens? What model are these? I can't find good 32 inch flat screens for triple setup.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I use the acer KG271 right now. You don’t want curves 32”?
@its-kapucha 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I don't like Curves and any kind of distortion because lack of cylindrical projection in rendering engine. Thanks for response. I will check acer. Because no flat 32 inch I need to look in 27'' area.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think curved monitors are curved enough for distortion, but I see where you’re coming from :)
@its-kapucha 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I see a lot of distortion on ultra wide 49'' asus monitor 1800C. Mirror on the side is much wider than when rendered in the center. I don't like such distoritions.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Ultrawide is a different story. I’m talking traditional 16:9 curved screens
@Barless 3 жыл бұрын
Damnit now I want vr but I also wanna upgrade my T150
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I know 😅😅😅 I’d upgrade the wheel first and maybe keep an eye out for a Lenovo explorer. You can pick them up for €100/$100 if you keep your eyes peeled. I used one for a long long time and loved it!
@Barless 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa i ended up buying a new rift cv1 for £200 and it is absolutely amazing
@bobboberton1841 Жыл бұрын
Did you factor in the cost of the trashcan some will be puking in when using VR ;). I have ultrawide and VR. VR is the most immersive, and love it, but almost never use it. Finding your button box, using mouse/keyboard, etc. is just a pain. Tried triples, but couldn't get past the bezels. They just were too annoying to me. Same reason I never race F1 cars. Can't stand that bar in front of my face. With that said, great video. Well thought out and well presented.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
The f1 halo makes no sense on a 2D plane. In real life or in Vr, your depth perception allows you to see past it, like when you hold a finger in front of your face. Triples are perfect for me. I don’t notice the bezels
@JoTokutora 2 жыл бұрын
What GPU are you using or VR. Kind of vague. What VR Headset are you using? Pimax 8K looks fantastic
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
I used a gtx 1080 and an rtx 2080 for VR. I used the Lenovo explorer, rift, rift s and quest 2 on my own setup. Pimax 8k is one I haven’t had the pleasure of using yet
@JoTokutora 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa The Pimax 8kX is quite an upgrade. each display renders at native 4k at 170 wide FOV. Basically the FOV of triple monitors. also the resolution is quite better. If you want monitor quality in VR then the Varjo VR3
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
I’m aware of the specs, I just haven’t had time to review one yet.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they top end headsets are amazing
@noahneal4632 3 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for "farting about"
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that’s the joy of an unscripted video 😂
@tinyglascap Ай бұрын
i feel like your talking about a super ultrawide (49 inch) not a normal ultrawide (34 inch or so)
@LaurenceDusoswa Ай бұрын
yep I was referring to anything with more than 16:9 ratio really
@Saradomian 2 жыл бұрын
Triple 32inch Samsung G7s
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@lilfurbal 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I'd probably give VR setup around a 9 out of 10 score and probably drop all the monitor options down some points, mostly because VR in general requires so little setup. I think the headset makers have done a good job at creating a fairly user friendly way of getting the headset going, then from there you don't really have to worry about much. As far as sim racing goes any monitor option requires more complexity, such as even how does one get a monitor ideally positioned in front of them on their racing rig. For my single widescreen rig I had to find a company that'd make a custom height monitor stand, and even then the entire thing felt clumsy to put together. Also trying to nail the perfect field of view for every car is a bit tedious. So vr just works with any rig setup, no need to consider how to mount monitors and don't need to physically go about doing so, and everything else is about automated. Easy :)
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Very fair points. I love VR too
@Glenowan 3 жыл бұрын
Single is the most convenient to set up but triples are way better for the overall experience imo :v
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would agree. Ultrawide is easy to set up, in general too though.
@frozenragu 2 жыл бұрын
All these options are good, depends on your budget + all require a powerhouse system Triples is the best if you are prepared to spend time building a cockpit around it for maximum immersion VR is the best plug and play option, but has drawbacks as you can't press buttons on wheel or dashboard like in a real car These 49" monitors are a good solution for those who can't justify a triple screen or can't afford both a monitor and VR - personally I'd rather get a 32" overall gaming monitor, eg the G7, which will be better for every use and still enough for racing. 49" is kind of neither here nor there in terms of the width you need
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! I'm sure it will be helpful to people
@LB-yx4yw 2 жыл бұрын
What about triple 3d tv? For depth perseption?
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have never experienced that
@DC-wz9gp 2 жыл бұрын
can we get a update video with a quest 2
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
I had a quest 2 also. Is there anything in particular you'd like to know. I think I actually had it at the time of this video. Or maybe that was the Rift S
@DC-wz9gp 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa I watch the video you're talking about rift s. But I think vr has improved abit. Did you try vr in ams2? It's the best
@DC-wz9gp 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa can't wait for next year with more micro oled displays.
@fizion-nl 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you mention later but some people still think ultra wide is great because they don't understand a triple option actually renders 3 cam views in games supporting it so you don't get a messy fov you have with an ultra wide which only renders one cam view. Basically ultrawide is like running nVidia surround on triples. It sucks.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you’re completely right. That’s a huge point that I forgot to mention! I didn’t have a script so didn’t say everything I wanted to but that’s a big one which also explains so much about why triples are more intensive than ultrawide screens. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. Great info! It will really help people to make their decision.
@mikej6565 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I had the ultrawide G9, returned it. I keep buying VR headsets but they all have compromises. This video convinced me to go triple LG CX48's. I have a feeling it's going to be my favorite/most comfortable sim setup.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in a similar boat. Triples are perfect for me, but I'd love to do more VR driving. the experience of VR is something else!
@mikej6565 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa The Reverb G2 is amazing in VR! I even bought prescription lenses for mine and notice a wider visual sweet spot!
@wuzumaki 3 жыл бұрын
Triple CXs would be crazy.
@mikej6565 3 жыл бұрын
@@wuzumaki I returned them in hopes to get the C1. I also needed to get a different 3090 (Gigabyte Xtreme, with 3x HDMI ports) since my FTW3 only had 1 HDMI and the Club3D DP 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter breaks VRR/Gsync. I can't wait to race with this setup!
@wuzumaki 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikej6565 Nice. Getting a 3090 shouldn't be as hard as getting a 3080, though it's still very limited supply out there. I'm still trying to decide between 49" G9 Super Ultrawide or triples. I'm on limited space, so I'm leaning more towards the G9.
@icecreammm2 Жыл бұрын
About aesthetics for VR: Spectators can see what you are seeing on your regular PC monitor in 2D. So ... if your monitor is an ultra wide, then it gets 8 + 5 points = 13 points!!! I think VR looses a lot of points where it really doesn't matter for people. I rather have less, but good options, than having to decide between thousands of monitors. The social aspect also doesn't matter that much for most of us, but as I said, people can spectate on a regular monitor and you can still talk with each other. I would also say that VR is more PC friendly than triples, but maybe it wasn't 2 years ago when you recorded the video.
@aswang17 2 жыл бұрын
I hear the term "don't tell my wife" thrown around a lot. Especially around men's hobbies. It's odd to me especially in situations where the one saying it appears to be successful and responsible. If they really mean it, then their spouses are terrible and don't want them to be happy. If it isn't true, then we should put a cap on the stereotype. This isn't fair to women who aren't policing their husbands being painted in this light. For the record, my wife doesn't do this. Neither do I. We don't need to ask permission or justify our purchases. We don't need to have a superior parental figure in the house to justify value. I understand that there may be cases where someone needs this kind of discipline as they are not responsible with their money. IMO, if you're with someone who is willing to put your family in financial risk over a hobby then you should leave them. having a parental/subordinate relationship isn't healthy.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
I largely agree. Relationships require compromise. “Don’t tell my wife” is a phrase that’s often used but I tell my wife everything about costs and all that. I agree with your last statement for sure. Basically, you can’t be selfish with family money if it’s needed elsewhere. If you are then that’s where secrets are a bad thing. If the bills are all covered and financial life is rosey, it’s easy to say that you don’t need ‘permission’. The fact is though that most people, especially us men, are selfish with money and spend more on ourselves than on our partners even if they don’t earn an income or earn less. Its easy to talk about from a position of privilege but most people reading this comment need to sacrifice something in order to upgrade their sim hardware and often that’s at the expense of more pressing financial responsibilities. Again, not saying you’re wrong. I mostly agree. I just like to discuss my finances with my wife before I buy stuff. I don’t have to, but I do it out of respect.
@aswang17 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa very well said Laurence. This is more of an observation I had than my opinion really. I appreciate your point of view. Shows a perspective that I didn't consider.
@paulneskow3504 4 ай бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Not sure I agree. I would say women are more worried about the future, so they tend to see many purchases as "frivolous". BUT their personal good looks are never "frivolous". IN GENERAL the one that makes the most money is the least concerned about its spending, though that's not an unbreakable home rule. Frequently what one finds is that these kinds of discussions revolve around a stereotype rather than a hard and fast characteristic.
@88Nikoli 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, to most men make up and brand name clothing , worn once is frivolous, and has no value . Once worn, it is worth maybe 10% , but sim gear and tech in general , though quickly outdated and superseded , has a much greater resale value ! Some women are hypocritical when it comes to this , as they value looking good as important as eating , though the majority are not , well those in successful relationships aren't ! More and more young women, of the unskilled and uneducated O.F. generation are like this , but nobody wants a relationship with them anyhow. Well, not for more than a day anyway !
@fad2679 Жыл бұрын
Why has this video got so many dislikes. Almost everything the man says is true.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
Confirmation bias :) but ultimately what’s true for me, isn’t gospel. Hence the scoring but some people still aren’t happy 😂😂😂
@DarkDMD Жыл бұрын
hey dude - the fia mandates helmets which give more than 180degree fov. the idea that the helmet blocks your fov in a real car is wrong. otherwise, thanks for the video.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
My helmets have probably always been too cheap 😂
@KuSQ3N 3 жыл бұрын
you gave vr more than a single screen on the aesthetics??
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe a little unfair but if I see someone gaming on VR I think it looks way cooler than when they game on a single screen.
@daemon3spade 2 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot 2 more options.. 4) Superultrawide(5120x1440)+trackIR and 5)Dual screen Superultra(mid)+Ultra(right)
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
And projectors 😅😅😅 I can only go by the hardware that I have used though
@tommiasfc 3 жыл бұрын
VR for me purely because I don't have the space for triples, wouldn't mind an ultrawide soon for FPS
@tommiasfc 3 жыл бұрын
First person shooters not frames per second....
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah shooters are cool on triples too but Nvidia surround SUCKS. Ultrawide is the most compatible all rounder. If you want fov.
@kevanhandley7521 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got this dilemma at the moment, VR or triples! Which 32 inch screens did you go for Lawrence?
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I went for these: amzn.to/3ehsMbt incredible value and really good quality
@kevanhandley7521 3 жыл бұрын
They look pretty good spec. Did you buy bezel kit? Also which monitor stand have you got, they are about same price as a monitor? 😥
@Username_Invalid 3 жыл бұрын
Ultrawide with TrackIR setup properly beats VR every time for me. I love having High Resolution with head tracking tweaked to my individual liking. Haven't tried triple screen. Would love to try a proper triple screen setup to try on. Let me know if your in the 757 of VA would love to try it.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha nope I’m in Ireland :p I’ve not used trackIR. I’ve never felt the need with triples.
@Username_Invalid 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Triple monitors definitely have a sexy appeal to them plus you can't deny the extreme peripheral vision advantage. That was one thing that I struggled with in VR the feeling that the sense of speed was slightly slower, I guess cause of the more limited fov. Then again I'm probably just speculating. Love your content, keep up the great work.
@tickacat5372 3 жыл бұрын
The price for super ultrawild monitor is very expensive but for triple monitor is cheeper then super ultrawild monitor?
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can get far cheaper resolution with triples than with ultrawide
@ChuckTownRC51 2 жыл бұрын
This is the flaw of his analysis
@ScaRlaK319 Жыл бұрын
what about using two screens. for indy/f1 its perfect.
@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын
no that's horrible because the center is always behind the monitor bezel. it's very distracting and really not nice.
@ScaRlaK319 Жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa when ur driving veiw is inside the cockpit there is a safety pole down the middle anyway. So that split goes on the pole. You don't notice while driving.
@Malficion 2 жыл бұрын
You haven't lived till you play on a [27" 144hz 1440p] [32" 144hz 4k] [24" 60hz 1080p] Triple monitor setup. 😂 Now I'm upgrading to triple 55" QN90A.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
nice :) I like triples. I'm happy with 32" though. Once you go larger, I don't know how much more you get.
@Madge104 3 жыл бұрын
Was this a regular ultrawide or like an uuuuuultra wide? Think Samsung Odyssey G9
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve played on all the regular ones like the Samsung CHG90. I owned a smaller one though. The newer Samsung monitors show some promise with their curve. I’m yet to try one and the price is $$$
@Madge104 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa linustechtips literally just uploaded a video about it! If you skip towards the end you can see a little of what I mean
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, I’ll give it a watch :)
@SergejGrabun 3 жыл бұрын
@@Madge104 terrible video from Linus in terms of quality of content
@Madge104 3 жыл бұрын
@@SergejGrabun agreed, terrible video
@DjFIL007 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure Asthethics is as important as you make it. And number of available options (competitors in one space) isn't super important. But otherwise I agree with majority of this report.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Sure! These should be adjusted for your own needs. For me, aesthetic is an important part of it. I see a rig as a piece of art, similar to a car. I don’t care how good a car is to drive, if it doesn’t look good, I can’t look past that fact. I spend more time looking at it than I spend driving it in a spirited way.
@ThePowerchimp 2 жыл бұрын
AVERAGING RESULTS: Single: 7.25 --- Ultrawide: 7.1 --- Triples: 7.8 --- VR: 6.1 Conclusion: No one clear winner. Invest for your preferred style of game/sim.
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is only meant to empower people to choose for themselves
@wertigus 2 жыл бұрын
what about triple Curved 27"-34" 144hz monitors?
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
yeah they're great. I run triple curved 32" 144hz 1440p monitors
@wertigus 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa sweet, i got the next level racing stand for them, I find it hard to align the 32" G5's, had to remove one of the sliders on one side, and I might have to make som keels to wedge in behind them for alignment, if that doesn't work I might have to find some other mounts for the monitors that can be mounted to the stand somehow, any ideas?
@wertigus 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh and have you tried ASUS's 27" bezel removers on them? i saw a vid where they fit them with some 1mm thin 3M tape, looked promesing
@Pabula 3 жыл бұрын
Why moving to 32''? you prefer bigger? perosnally i found 27'' 2560x1440 to be my flavor in terms of looking real, but now you got me thinking on 32''.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Pop into my discord and I’ll send you some pics of the difference between my 27” setup and the 32s now
@Pabula 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa K i got on, my name there is Abula
@versedi 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa Any chance you could link them in public channel on discord? :D I'm torn between 29" UW and 34" QHD
@arjankremer8229 3 жыл бұрын
21:9 ultrawide? vs single screen?
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I would choose ultrawide over single screen if money wasn’t an issue for sure.
@DawsonVonDarkcastle 3 жыл бұрын
14:10 his wall mounted pc just had a thought.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha you mean the flash of light?
@DawsonVonDarkcastle 3 жыл бұрын
yeah. Just a weird random thing for the computer to do out of no where.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
@@DawsonVonDarkcastle it actually does it the whole time throughout the video :)
@DawsonVonDarkcastle 3 жыл бұрын
Oh. ... I Guess that's what happens when you pay attention to the content and not the flashy lights. 😋
@1998lemuel 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem with choosing between triple and single is if you want to play PS4 with GT you'll be forced to use 1 monitor... what a ducking dilemma is this lol
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
yep consoles are limited like that :(
@zeekot4064 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 49inch Samsung ultra wide screen which i love.... i just got the oculus 2 vr headset which is pretty cool, but idk.. i like it.. there is just too much bullshit you have to do to get the game looking crisp.. also note I’m playing it on ACC I haven’t tried it for iracing yet or AC,.
@mikej6565 3 жыл бұрын
The Reverb G2 is the most crisp headset ATM. Truly the closest picture quality to a 4K monitor. The Quest 2 pales in comparison. (I have them both plus others....) I'm in the process of setting up triple LG CX48 OLEDs, that might be a decent stopgap for now.
@zeekot4064 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikej6565 are you saying you don’t have to turn the graphics down in ACC or lower the amount of cars on the grid to get a half decent look?
@mikej6565 3 жыл бұрын
@@zeekot4064 I have a 3090, but ACC is the one game I haven't played since owning the 2080ti. I'll bet ACC won't run well on anything for quite some time. My new focus has been on AMS2, amazing game! (and of course, the heavily modded original AC). Either way, the Reverb G2 has the crispness to display the quality that hopefully our GPU's can push.
@zeekot4064 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikej6565 yeah, I think ill just wait until VR gets better so I don’t have to switch so much settings on games to make it look decent. Know what I mean? But that being said, it is pretty fucking awesome with the VR experience..
@KettunenJ 2 жыл бұрын
I have vr class and it cost 300 euro 🤔 I monitor cost 200-250 euro and triple x3 that so 🤷♂️ this might be good video but i end it when cost pont is showed 😂
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
That’s fine. Adjust the scores as you like :) these are my opinions. Those who have different opinions can adjust the numbers to suit them :)
@JOHB25 3 жыл бұрын
Try with Reverb G2 - 73... must be mad...
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of the VR is only a small part of it. I admitted that it’s the best driving experience, but these scores are just my personal weightings. The benefit of this video is that people can adjust scores to their preferences and opinions in a tangible way.
@JOHB25 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa it's fair :) you havent had the chance to try with newer VR headsets :) a lot of VR entusiasts cannot go back to screen racing again... tried couple of times though.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I used VR exclusively for 2 years and tried newer headsets too. All that is taken into account. The only reasons I went back to screens is for the ability for me to interact on the streams, the ability to see things out of the corner of my eye and the overall comfort and ability to see my nice hardware. If it was JUST about driving pleasure, this video would be pretty boring because VR wins that argument all day long.
@zwer54 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the cost score of ultrawide vs triple is not right...
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I gave the reasons why I guess. Both new and second hand, it’s much cheaper to get the same resolution/performance in triples than in ultrawide.
@Leynad778 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa The costs are BS. For triples and VR you need a highend graphicscard while pushing half 4k resolution isn't a big deal and I saw 49"curved widescreens 144 Hz for under 700 bucks. I use TrackIR and get >180° hFOV bezel-free.
@4ylg403 2 жыл бұрын
i think triples are better because u can play with triples for like hours but its not healthy for u to play hours with vr
@LaurenceDusoswa 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if there’s any evidence to support that. It’s more comfortable to play on triples than in VR but that’s just my experience. I wouldn’t think VR impacts your health any more than screens.
@jonnylaris 3 жыл бұрын
Few more cons of a triple monitor setup: 1) Due to the enourmous fov required, there is a really noticible fish eye effect even in games that allow you to move the left and right views to accomodate your monitor angle. 2) Your monitor views will never lineup correctly. If you get them lined up in the center they will be off at the top and bottom. 3) Bezels themselves are off-putting, especially if you have a smaller monitor setup where the bezels are right where the apex of the corner is. 4) Mounting triple monitors is a pain and requires a lot of effort to get right. You need to spend money on a decent stand, which puts them at a higher cost than an ultrawide. Example: 3x 144hz 32 inch monitors will cost around 400 euro each, plus 250 euro for a stand, you are in for 1450 euro which is more than even the most expensive ultrawide.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree on 1, 2, 3. I agree on 4 and the extra cost of a stand. But even with a stand, comparable resolution to ultra wide is cheaper for triples from my experience.
@jonnylaris 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa can you explain why you don't agree? My points are pretty objective. You can see them in any triple setup.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
Well I don’t experience 1 unless I’m not sitting in the driver’s seat. I’m talking about non Nvidia surround applications like iRacing or AC. My monitors are as ‘perfectly lined up’ as any 2D representation of a 3D space can be. The monitors sit nice and close to me. A slight curve in the screen helps. But the problem you are describing affects ultrawides as well as triples. 3. Bezels are no more ‘offputting’ than a-pillars in a car. I don’t even see them while driving and don’t lose and graphical information as a result of them being there. A Samsung g9 is around the price you mention. But you also need a good single monitor mount for that which drives the cost up for that option. It also has far less resolution than triple 2560x1440p monitors.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
And don’t get me wrong. I disagree but that doesn’t make me right. Your comment on here offers people another extremely valid opinion and i hope that people read these comments as I’m just a guy with a camera :)
@jonnylaris 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenceDusoswa yep totally! You might not notice these things as much and to be honest after a while you become used to then. It's more just for anyone who is thinking about getting triples so they know what to expect on first try.
@RagingAcid 3 жыл бұрын
I need a cheaper hobby.
@LaurenceDusoswa 3 жыл бұрын
'cheap hobby' is an oxymoron :p
@Starmast3rmusic Жыл бұрын
Need the hobby of saving money and clipping coupons 😔
@arjankremer8229 3 жыл бұрын
one good option is enough......
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