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It certainly is outstanding!

All the best with your new GS! I've got to agree that the drive shaft was a fantastic move by BMW so many years ago. I'm actually glad that they are being rewarded with sales numbers largely thanks to this decision. Makes our lives so much easier living with a GS. Cheers!

Thanks a lot for sharing - I appreciate that and I'm glad that you enjoy the videos. I truly believe that what you mentioned about the best all-round bike is very, very true. Now that boat wasn't easy to hook up at all!

I agree that there are vehicles that feel happy in some circumstances and unhappy in others. I feel that it's the same with cars. What I know for sure is that R1250GS can also be a hell of a lot of fun to ride fast and aggressively. It makes me myself ride that way, especially in the city as it makes me very confident right from the beginning with its low center of gravity, balance and overall control.

I'm glad you liked the vid and one of the things that the big GS is so praised for is that it does everything really well, so is a fantastic overall package. Also, I believe that it does some things in the best way too.

This is really a magic carpet". That is how I called it in my test ride. Can check it. :)

I'm glad you're happy with the choice. High chances are that you won't ever be disappointed with it as it's so loved for a reason. Seeing your height, the Adventure should make you feel like at home, which is great! It's cool that I could be of help and all the best with the bike now!

Thanks Donald for providing a bit of perspective by indicating your height. I am 6ft 3 inches so seeing a taller rider who finds the GSA comfortable is useful.

@@brucemcwatt3802 Yes it more than tall enough and comfrtable at that. I'm one month in 1300miles, no regrets!

@@brucemcwatt3802 Sure Bruce. For you it would be perfect. I am 6.1 and rode it. Can check it. :)

Hi, I'm glad that you like this beast and wish you all the best with it! Cheers1

Thanks for your feedback and I'm glad that you're enjoying your GS I wish I could give you more information on the tires and share my experiences but I have only tried the GSes that were very new and still on factory tires, so I've got no comparison. I guess that this could be a good topic to touch on some BMW GS riders forum. I'd recommend doing that. All the best in 2022! Cheers!

I hope you'll be super happy with your GS. All the best with it!

It just as well may be a good reason - in the factories and also on the design level, things may be improved and implemented every year and so they really become better with time. On the other hand, looking at potential "value" of a new generation comparing to "old", it's tempting to choose the newest as soon as it's launched. I sometimes cannot resist myself with some items. Sometimes you pay a high price for that, sometimes lower. Cheers!

Hi HR, I had a 2014 ST1200ES...the worst bike of 12 that I have owned! Poor throttle response, poor suspension (could never get it where it was not harsh but comfortable, it was either comfortable and too soft or harsh but handled well), not that fast, rough/un-refined engine and the seat kept making me slide forward bashing my twig and berries into the tank. Yes the GS is expensive but SO worth it.

Thanks for mentioning all that, I appreciate it and I'm glad that you like the videos. I do agree that some manufacturers, BMW included, become wild with their pricing to the... well... "wildly wild" point. I've ridden Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 a few years ago and found it quite a close match to R1200GS of that time. I think it felt a bit more rough and raw, and less sophisticated. I experienced the common issue of my knees resting on the bike's fairings which was uncomfortable for me as every time that I'd slide back to relieve my knees and get rid of the pain caused by that constant contact, I'd immediately slide back forward on the seat. That was a flaw that many taller riders found hard to deal with. I'm not that tall at 183 cm and my legs aren't unusually long, so "it was the bike, not me!". I actually checked the market today and there aren't many Super Teneres left out there even if we'd like to buy one today I think. IMMEDIATE UPDATE: I just saw @Rob B's comment here about sliding forward and the knees problem. This is exactly what I meant and it made me strangely excited to see that he has already mentioned it. The word "rough" appeared too, so I'm certain that my memory of the time spent with the Super Tenere serves me very well. I think that I'd rather look for a Suzuki V-Strom 650 with ABS if I had to get something similar from that time. V-Strom 1000 used to be a brilliant bike but lacked ABS for all its life. Then it become one ugly thing with V-Strom's engine and if not for its face, this could be a very interesting direction if you like what Super Tenere represents. Cheers and all the best in 2022!

@@robb8773 Thank you for your comment. I have read many good reviews on the Super Tenere but will keep your insights in mind when I test ride one in the Spring.

@@VToldsMotoShow Thank you for your reply. Rob B did make some of the same comments you made on the shortcomings of the Super Tenere 1200. I am in the market for either a sport touring or adventure bike and like everything about the Super Tenere but I have never rode one. I also like the FJR1300 but again, never rode one. This Spring (May) when all the snow is gone and our biking seasons resumes, I will test ride these two bikes aswell as the 1200 or 1250GS. The V-Strom 650 and Kaw Versys 650 are interesting but with no shaft drive, thats a deal breaker for me. Again, thank you for all the great videos and content.

Tremenda diferencia entre la F850 GS y la 1250 GS, conozco las dos, una me gustó, la otra me encantó, así de simple

Oh, I know it has got plenty of fans around the world. The "big" GS often gets all the credit as it's known for so many years, but the "medium" one represents the GS family with plenty of pride and love from the riders.

All the best in 2022 and on! Cheers

Thanks a lot! And you've mentioned some good points as the questionable sides. Good luck with your channel!

@@VToldsMotoShow Thanks. :)

It's a really good piece of machinery. Despite its potential downsides for some of us in some areas, I'm very convinced that its advantages far outweigh any possible disadvantages.

Thanks and I'm glad I could be helpful. Cheers! ;)

I just hope that for the better. Cheers!

@@VToldsMotoShow Oh for sure!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the time you put into the reviews, they are interesting.

Thanks for your feedback, Bruce!

Nicely said. It's a rewarding machine so I'm happy that you're enjoying yours. Cheers!

Pretty soon we may see the successor!

Right, I haven't mentioned much about offroading as it's not that clear. The big GS is comfortable to ride for long on a dirt road as it's got a wide handlebar, it's easy to control, has a low center of gravity and even if it falls on a side it's easier to pick it up thanks to the cylinders. On the other hand, it's a heavy motorcycle while there are lighter ones on the market, its ground clearance isn't particularly impressive and there are ones with higher and much higher ground clearance: GS has 18,5 cm, GS Adventure 22 cm - and so does the new Ducati Multistrada V4. But for example the F850GS has almost 25 cm and that's a huge difference in favor of the 850. It would be much better in a truly rough spot than the big GS. And that's no surprise or a downside of the big one. In turn, it's so much more powerful and capable as a touring motorcycle. That's why it's hard to comment on it - there's nothing fantastic about it but nothing bad too. It will do it and if it's not hardcore, it may do it in style and comfort. Also, in tight spots or riding in places with some trees or stones, the cylinders sticking to the side may either save your feel from an impact or may theoretically cause you to crash into something that you'd otherwise miss. But I guess that this isn't really that relevant. I hope you get my point as it's not that super clear to me how to judge GS's offroad capabilities as that actually depends significantly on what the conditions are. I hope you will enjoy your GS and since it's coming, I say just use what it provides and likely you will be happy with what it can do. Cheers!

@@VToldsMotoShow I understand what you're saying and agree completely! Thanks for your insights!!

I've owned 5 GS / GSA's. 4 of them was 1200's (2012-2017) and then a 1250 GSA in 2019. Also bought a new ktm 1290 SA in 2016. Did not like it. Now i have purchased a 2022 Multistrada V4s. Rode a demo last summer, and it is the first bike i've tried that competes with the GS. In some matters the Multi is better. For instance the suspension, with a lot more settings available both for preload and damping. I actually think the electronics operating the suspension on the GS has become worse than earlier. Up until 2017-2018, you had more adjustments available, with Soft, Normal and Hard settings on the damping. Newer bikes only have two choices, Road and Dynamic. When touring on my 1250 GSA with my girlfriend, i often found the Road mode too soft, with the Dynamic being just a bit too hard. I really missed a setting right in the middle. Riding alone, Road mode was fine. Also, on earlier models you could set the suspension preload to Rider, Rider and luggage, Rider and passanger, Rider and passenger with luggage. On the newer bikes you only have Minimum, Maximum and Auto. I also miss some rebound damping on the GS, as i often find it a bit too "loose". I mentioned this to my local dealer, and they told me they had reciewed this feedback from several customers. On the Multistrada, you can adjust preload manually, with 24 levels to choose from. In addition, there is an Auto setting. For damping, you have 5 settings: Softest, Soft, Medium, Hard and Hardest. You can also adjust front and rear suspension individually. That is not possible on the GS. The quickshifter is on another level on the Ducati. Unbelievably smooth. The same is the v4 engine, and together they make a great combo. On the GS, the quickshifter is too clunky. Also, the Multi is quieter to ride. Not many talk about this, but ever since the "new" 1200 GS in 2013, there has been a certain road noise, especially with the GSA. Some believe it comes from the front wheel, or parts of the front fairing. It might cause some turbulence from this area, creating a noise which is noticable to the rider. It is not a big problem, i use earplugs anyway, but there is definitely a noise. I've seen some reviews about high consumption on the Multi. Then i've seen owners reporting it's not that bad, 06-0.65 with pasanger. Anyway, i believe you can expect the GS to perform a little better on fuel economy. The GS is a fantastic bike, and you will not be disappointed if you buy one. But i suggest you have a ride on both of them before you decide. After 5 GS's, my plan is to ride the Multi in 2022, and then maybe go for the GS again in 2023, if there is a new 1300 coming. I Also tried the Pan America last summer. It was surprisingly good, and an impressive first attempt from HD. But it's not quite up there with BMW and Ducati. No quickshifter either! Hope i helped sorting a few things out for you. 🙂

@@matsrekdal3065 wow thank you very much for your detailed answer. yes i think the pan america is also out of my list because of the missing quickshifter. I'm currently hanging between 1250gs 2021 and the multistrada v4s. i believe after all i have read it will be the multistrada. Just now there is one in front of me because I'm at a dealer and will test drive it. Thank you for your help.

@@stereoturk7986 Let me hear your thoughts after the testdrive!

@@matsrekdal3065 Good synopsis. I think one other factor I'd throw into the mix would be torque vs power characteristics of the GS and MSV4. The former has a plus point of low down grunt, if that's your thing, whereas the MSV4 has more power, if that's your thing. And yes, the GS1300 will be released in May 2023.

@@samsara3694 Absolutely, torque on the GS is just amazing. In real life, the GS is stronger than the V4, all the way up to 7000 revs.

yes, he is.

Yes, I confirm both parts! Cheers from Warsaw, Poland!

Are the new Triumph Tiger 1200 available for purchase already? What country?

Wow, that was quick! I hope you'll like it and I'm curious what it will be like. I see that they priced the GT by default higher than a GS, so a bold move by Triumph.

@@VToldsMotoShow , yes, but for that money you get a completer bike than the GS, believe me !

@@didzisstilve6794 , in my country Belgium, I purchased it on tuesday 21 december. Hopefully mine will arrive at the dealer somewhere in june, the salesman told me.

Yes, yes, yes - that's exactly what makes is so surprising and enjoyable at the same time.

@@VToldsMotoShow I feel way more confident on it than on a naked bike😂

Good point about the luggage - I'm a fan of the Vario cases idea, so without any additional mounting elements to put on a bike.

I'd say that everything should work pretty much the same as in a conventional suspension except for the feeling of diving. However, if I spent more time on a track, I'd be able to tell you more. Hopefully someone with this kind of experience can answer this more reliably.

I trust that indeed it may be as you say.

Yeah, the bar is really high, and they've work hard to elevate it that high themselves too.

I've got to say that I've found the news of a maintenance-free chain pretty hard to believe but I guess that time will tell if it works as advertised or not. Thanks for bringing this up.

Maybe it will if you mean a whole new GS, not just a new model year that looks like thee current one. It would require a radar like a Ducati Multistrada V4 has.

Hey, I guess it's a matter of preference with choosing the preferred type of bike for certain circumstances. All big adventure bikes could be described in the same way, yet I myself would feel the most comfortable and in control on a GS when going through the city traffic. To me there are some specific advantages of a big adventure bike in the city, for example usually a wider, more comfy seat. I still enjoy power too, and this a smaller capacity bike wouldn't give me. Yet I understand that there's the time and place for everything.

@@VToldsMotoShow A wider more comfy seat in City traffic on such a high bike means you have to stretch your legs more to reach the ground. That is a hinderence not an advantage.

I wonder what market you mean. This has been changing in the recent years as the prices are skyrocketing now, so also differences in the value lost after specific time are getting larger. But still, comparing to some other motorcycles, I believe that a GS should be one of the best. Perhaps the rule of 4 years applies here as you said.

@@VToldsMotoShow yes, it's exactly that. Prices for the GS older than four years strongly hold their value, but depreciation over the fist 4 years is comparable with many other bikes and cars.

Try owning a new KTM if you want to see depreciation

In theory and normal riding it should be for a very long time. Heading the same way, once in a while we should replace a whole engine too, yet it's not considered to be an item that's supposed to be replaced every now and then.

Agree. :) Can check my test ride of this bike. :)

Yo, when you stop to lubricate the chain, you cannot be riding at the same time and enjoying the views, right? Because you're there staring at the chain when spraying it. This sentence was supposed to be taken literally.

​@@VToldsMotoShow You don't need to lube that chain all that much.You can ride all day long and not care about it. You really don't need stops for chain lubrication. Especially the O-ring chains. Those are lubed for life. No matter how much oil/chain lube you pour on them, it's not getting past the o-rings and inside the links. You're lubricating the chain mostly against corrosion. So every 1000km give it some spray and it's going to be fine. No need to stress about it.

Not heard of chain oilers?

I believe that R1250GS Adventure offers huge possibilities in certain conditions and for certain riders. Its riding comfort may be even better than standard GS's. So no, definitely I would never say that I personally dislike the Adventure, nor the regular GS. I genuinely and deeply dislike only their exhaust sound. Other things I might personally even let pass.

@@VToldsMotoShow agree about the exhaust. However, it is inherent of a boxer engine. It’s just not a V twin. Akrapovic exhaust helps though. Oh, my parents are from Krakow, nice to here from a fellow pol!

If you mean an oil change after 20-30k km, then this may be done but it's what you're doing via a service, not yourself on the road every 500 km. It's similar to replacing the chain and the sprockets and without everything else that's there to do with the chair.

It's a special edition with this color scheme, spoked wheels and some touches here and there.

If you mean an automatic transmission then no, there's no such option for BMW GS family motorcycles. But there can be a feature called a quickshifter (or similarly by different manufacturers) which lets you change gears up and - in most motorcycles including GS - down without using clutch. Switching down, you should close the throttle though. Still, you've got to use a gear lever in the same way you always do, just may not touch the clutch lever. I hope that this helps.

@@VToldsMotoShow Thanks for the info Will want to buy one off the shelf. Hence NC750x.

It does appear rather small in the picture but we don't know how big the rider was. There are some other shots and until we see the bike in person, there's no way of telling at the moment. Photos can be misleading a lot. But yeah, you're not the only one who has noticed how small it seems to appear in those photos.

When I shut down this KZfaq channel as then I wouldn't have to stay independent ;). Just kidding!

@@VToldsMotoShow In the next year :)

Dzięki! Trening to podstawa! :)

Wow, that's interesting feedback!

ThE boxer engine is one of the most characterful engines ever made!

Feels pretty solid. Other than that - depends on what exactly you mean.

@@VToldsMotoShow BMW just announced a recall for more than 400.000 R 1200 GS and R 1250 GS due issues relating the cardan drive shaft.

good, but really heavy.

@@szeriman13 gs is 549, adventure is 591, super tenere 575🤷‍♂️

@@trucker-d4161 gs is 229kg (504!) , super tenere 269kg (575) its plus 50kg. It like you carry another passanger....

Would agree. Same riders just prefer BMWs, some just Yamahas. :) I am nowhere here, so you can check my test ride of the GS. :)

@@szeriman13 that’s not the weight from their web site, but what ever.

I think I get that feeling too sometimes.

I'm curious who paid you for this comment. Now ask again tomorrow, on Saturday the 8th of January 2022 after watching the "reasons to avoid" video.

You'll be happy to see the Saturday's video on 8th of January 2022 then.

@@VToldsMotoShow looking forward to as a gs owner as my self!

I've not encountered any official or even leaked information on the dates. Is there any source behind it or only speculation?

@@VToldsMotoShow i asked @ the dealership… presentation end of 2023 then delivery from beginning 2024. 2023 is the celebration of 100 years BMW.

Once you start moving, it tends to seem way lighter than it is usually. Perhaps if you're offroading, then yeah, nothing can hide its weight ever.

I think you mean successor

@@noturk3y4u yes thankyou its eee early

Excuse me, mate, but what are you talking about? Why not to demonstrate lane splitting and why would that be very unprofessional and dangerous?