VW Arteon R Shooting Brake - Vast, Fast and a real Blast !

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Turns out the VW Arteon R Shooting brake is vast, fast and a real blast to drive. It has the same engine as the Golf R, 320 horsepower and four wheel drive. The certainly gets it down the road rapidly and the bootspace is huge. The big question is can I fit my bike in the boot ?
The big challenge for me is the price tag of the VW Arteon R Shooting brake. Can the design, build and performance live up to that ?
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Video Contents
00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - The origins of the Shooting Brake
02:40 - Front end styling
05:02 - Rear end styling and boot space
06:57 - Will my bike fit in the boot ?
08:59 - Rear passenger space
09:58 - Drivers tech and comfort
13:21 - Normal Drive Mode and size !
15:16 - Race Mode
18:47 - Final Impressions
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@thecompletejoker 10 ай бұрын

Great video Pete…I’m 59 years old and not heard the words Shooting Brake since I was 10 years old and like you my Dad had a Hillman hunter, brings back so many memories 👍🏻

@reinmansmith 10 ай бұрын

Agree with you 100%…. Great looking car (especially in that colour scheme) and one which will cover all bases for most people. Practical daily transport but one which will turn heads and put a smile on your face to drive… the perfect ‘petrolhead dad’ car….. except for the price! Knock £10k off the prices and they would sell like the proverbial hot cakes…..

@philcliffe6909 10 ай бұрын

The seats look fantastic, I like the way the rear seats go right up close to the roof line giving the rear passengers privacy.

@tomashley5869 10 ай бұрын

Great car! I think that despite its price tag in a competitive class, it stands out with its looks and practicality. Will not be continued, sadly. Thanks for a great video once more. Cheers, Tom

@matt_kj 7 ай бұрын

Always put your bike in rear wheel first and then rotate the bars to so that the front wheel is at 90 degrees. This method enables me to transport my road bike in a VW Golf without removing the wheels 😃

@Funky_Geek 10 ай бұрын

I had a saloon R-line 200bhp petrol when my Skoda Superb was in for repairs. Visibility not great out if the rear of the saloon. Drives well with great levels of refinements. Only thing that puts me off is VW dealer experience. If you get any VW pray you have no issues as the dealers are terrible to deal with. I was pleased to get my Skoda back… less is more these days 😊

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@gorviv529 10 ай бұрын

The Arteon is a really impressive car. They don't sell the shooting brake in the US and, unfortunately, i believe they are about to discontinue the sale of Arteon here after this year (which is sad). If I had a family and I could get one at a good price point, I would certainly consider getting one.

@cyclemike5182 10 ай бұрын

That was a really useful video Pete. I've a '62 plate A7 and I love it. You can get two road bikes in it! However it won't last forever and the new Audi range will be ridiculously expensive. I've sat in one of these in a VW showroom and it feels very much like the A7, so it ticks lots of boxes for me. It also looks really cool. Thanks again for the great review👍🏻👍🏻

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Sounds great!

@lyubohar 10 ай бұрын

This is nowhere near A7 segment, it's Passat basically, so A5. You'll find it a step down from A7.

@veitritter3317 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great and informative review 👍. I would be interested in hearing your opinion on the Skoda Octavia VRS estate as well and seeing how it compares to the Arteon. Also, I would like to know, if you could by chance review a Volvo V60 T8 Recharge, should Volvo also be part of the Hendy Group. Thanks once again for all the work and effort that you're putting into your content. Keep up the great work 👌

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Thanks. Trying to get hold of an Octavia vRS. Will look into the Volvo 👍

@DDLNX 10 ай бұрын

Got a 2.0 190 TSI Shooting brake..... Love it.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

👍

@martincameron7982 10 ай бұрын

Car looks great, who doesn’t love a fast wagon! Also that Bianchi hoodie looks like the most comfortable hoodie ever 😂

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

I live in it. My favourite bit of clothing 👌

@jimcabezola3051 10 ай бұрын

What beautiful car! We used to have estate cars all over the place when I was young...alongside the horses that used to draw them😆🤣. The MPVs and SUVs killed estate cars here. This car is so much sexier than the ones of my youth, though.

@keebs000 7 ай бұрын

Here in Australia, new ones are $80,000-$85,000, wait about 12-15months and you can pick one up for $60,000-$65,000 with really low KM!

@jonmorris1999 10 ай бұрын

Wow couldn't believe the price new, thought these were around 50k tops fully loaded. 64k is far too much. Can pick one up used 20k on clock for mid 30s. Good video Ped

@Tapot_goo 10 ай бұрын

True but you got to remember a golf R starts at 40k ish fully loaded that can go beyond 50k This is the R equivalent so I guess the price is inline with their model range

@aarongunner1711 10 ай бұрын

I own an Rline version of this in Australia. Even same colour. (We don't get the R version here). It is a lovely car don't get me wrong. But! VW Aus wouldn't organise a towbar. Had to organise my own which was horrendous!. The fit and finish really isn't great. For a near $90k car it's pretty disappointing compared to my Mazda cx9. After a 3000km road trip there were soooo many rattles. And it's less than a year old 😞 But saying that. Got 12.5L/100 towing a caravan over that distance which was awesome.

@benhigginson9763 10 ай бұрын

Hi all. Looks like Pete is going head to head with Joe 😂

@JoeAchilles1 10 ай бұрын

Completely unplanned (obviously) 😂 The race is on.... 🏁

@MattHealey. 10 ай бұрын

Guess when the embargo ended lol

@johnhutchinson635 10 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same, sorry Joe I’m watching Pete’s video first

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

No embargo. Just bad planning 😂

@bigphilswheels 10 ай бұрын

Top vlog as usual Ped. Estate or shooting brake? To me it looks like a 4 door Scirocco! It's got that same vibe about it. 👍

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

👍

@duncanwood4313 9 ай бұрын

Great video - nicely balanced- and a car I am very interested in. As you say, something a little different. Fast (well, quite quick!), very practical, and looks great! I test drove an Arteon R last week (coming from a Superb AWD at 350bhp) and expected it to feel much quicker. A Stage 1 at 380bhp would solve that. Overall, a tempting proposition, and certainly more interesting than an S4 or 340i.

@PetrolPed 9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@coltoncleveringa8004 10 ай бұрын

Well ya sold me on getting one! If I had the money and it was sold in the USA I’d buy one Sir Pete! The price is a bit high though. Great color on the car and a great review.

@malph9216 10 ай бұрын

Great looking car. It's got something of a big, 4 door Scirocco about it from the rear 3/4 view.

@martinnorth2680 10 ай бұрын

Or pre dating that, Reliant Scimitar

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Yes it does!

@garrymatthews4430 10 ай бұрын

Have to say it does tick a lot of boxes, totally agree about the switch gear don’t like that format

@speakatron5634 3 ай бұрын

Your two doggos are adorable.

@PetrolPed 3 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻

@stevencampbell1150 10 ай бұрын

Great review and you know I always find your can I fit my bike in the back part of some of your reviews very useful because it's something that I always look to especially as I'm looking to my next car though I don't think it'll be one of those.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

@philipparkes5682 10 ай бұрын

Hi Ped With you on looks and styling, I like it and as you say rather unique in its class. Certainly very practical, other than perhaps a minor point when it comes to parking in the average super market car park! Difficult to sum up, but once again VW has not quite nailed it in this segment. It is a rather expensive car in a very competitive section, just misses out on a podium place.

@oesterga 10 ай бұрын

Both you and Joe are releasing the review at the same time. Now I can’t decide which one to watch first…….

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Yeah. Not great planning 😂

@grahamwest1079 10 ай бұрын

Put a bike rack on the back he says, as if it's not long enough already 😂

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@SHOdown13 10 ай бұрын

Great looking station wagon. Beautiful shade of blue. I'm in the market for a new car and would love one of these. But I don't think we'll ever see it in the States. To me it's a bit of a modern interpretation of the Volvo 850. Guess I'll have to just hang onto my Taurus SHO for the time being.

@SDK2006b 10 ай бұрын

I loved this when it launched a couple of years ago. The problem is the Benefit In Kind tax cost was huge, so was a non starter for me. Shame because it’s basically a cheaper version of the Panamera Sport Turismo.

@mynameIan 10 ай бұрын

I miss the UK when you have access to this kind of vehicle. Once my Clubman JCW falls to pieces from the crappy Quebec roads, my options are going to be an SUV or an SUV.

@mikadavies660 10 ай бұрын

I think I would go for Skoda Enyak VRS.

@philipmichaelhughes5719 10 ай бұрын

One of the best looking estates out there. Comforting strength, space and performance.

@rohanw1989 10 ай бұрын

I have this car in the hatchback form in same colour with same alloys. The alloys are actually 20 inch, not 21 inch Also the top speed is definitely not limited to 155 but rather 167.

@stugill4513 10 ай бұрын

just got a 2 year old tdi manual plenty fast enuff and over 60 mpg on a run over 40 around town

@user-jg6vi4cd7v 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Mr Ped thats one i dont know the Arteon! as a car but looks a handsome beast , i like the idea of the T roc R or the Tiguan R ! would love to see a review on those !😇lapiz blue all the way!

@johnbrown3951 10 ай бұрын

I think you should have tried your eMTB in the other way round it might have gone in that way. It would certainly have gone in with the front wheel off rear in first I am sure especially with that low floor in the back. Mine goes in the i-Pace rear first front wheel off and that looks like a bigger boot as I am sure it is similar to the passat estate I had. It's a lot of money though.

@dutoitm1 10 ай бұрын

No chance it would have fit without taking the wheel off, the aperture is too small. And taking the wheel off it would fit in most averagely sized estates.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Great point!

@Yorkshiremadmick 10 ай бұрын

Defender a short wheel base. Cracking looks and nice spec.

@chrish8871 9 ай бұрын

Bah, nice Vauxhall omega you want! Get my orbea rise in the back no dismantling no problem. I do put it in BACK WHEEL FIRST though 😄and the slope on the boot door is non existent so doesn’t reduce boot area. Though you’d like to know, no need to thank me 👍😄

@beano6452 10 ай бұрын

Please give us a review of the ID.4 or 5 next, Ped.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

OK 👍

@johnjcs1982 10 ай бұрын

Nice road bike Ped!

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@ianstrange4347 10 ай бұрын

I had a the SQ5 plus, last of the uplifted bi turbo diesels from 2016. 380bhp, 700Nm, more than enough on any road, and I drive like i stole it in dynamic from Somerset to Silverstone weekly and it still returned 33mpg. These q7 and q8 are just too big for my liking. All the options are now reserved for the Vorsrung models due to component supply issues with new cars.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Nice 👌

@barrysmith7291 10 ай бұрын

I have the salon and the boot is massive and still good mpg for the performance ,I’m getting 32 on short runs if you don’t put your foot down

@artoutlawphoto 8 ай бұрын

this guy has a mtb, a gravel bike and a road bike.. yes its a e-mtb not a proper mtb but still it looks like a session. 😊👍

@PetrolPed 8 ай бұрын

And the e-bike is my go to bike, followed by my gravel bike. Love it 👍

@B2AGG 10 ай бұрын

I bought one in this striking blue two months ago for £35k. Less than 2 years old with nominal mileage. Love it. VW dealer experience? Not what I am used to. Quoted over a month to look at a warranty issue. Really? The only downside for me are the driver assist features. Lane assistance has to be turned off as I leave the drive every time.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Very nice!

@Tristanbirdyt 10 ай бұрын

Good evening,petrol ped wondering if you could review the polo GTI please thank you very much as always. Have a wonderful week - weekend

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

I will try!

@wordreet 10 ай бұрын

I always have to remove the front wheel of my fat tire MTB! Being a continuous estate car owner I quite like this one. But just checking the spec list, and you have to ADD the jack and tool kit for £15! But I have added £7670.00 for extras, including 20" Rosario Dark graphite matt alloy wheels and an alloy spare wheel (£515), (will it be the same as the Rosarios?). And it seems you have to pay extra for a space saver spare wheel anyway, otherwise you just get a "Tyre mobility kit"? But hey, Carwow found me a deal that saves £6852 off the original £55,540, (most of the extras) so just £42318! Hah! Almost exactly what I still owe on my mortgage! Great fun! Sticking with the good ol' Astra for now though. Oh and personally I will avoid leather at all costs! 😁

@bizzie1956 10 ай бұрын

Lovely car but so expensive

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Yes, true

@DDLNX 10 ай бұрын

A potential replacement for my 190 tsi..... But STAGE 4 on air ride!! Miss my Mk7 R Stage 2

@crawfordg 10 ай бұрын

Having owned very many New and used VW's over the last 35 years or so I think that I am hooked although the current one is a Seat fr same as a Vw sort of, I agree with you that the Areton is a good looking Shooting Brake but it is over priced @£64k. Great video thank you. Regards Crawford

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 👍

@richardhowlett9424 10 ай бұрын

My Accord tourer has a broadly similar look , less fussy , with one of the finest 4 cylinder engines ever made .

@alasdairwilson4806 10 ай бұрын

Great review.Nice looking car as well, but I think the touchscreen and haptics would really annoy after a while.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree

@rohanw1989 8 ай бұрын

VW have added on an Extra 2.5k to the price of the Adtwon R sportback and shooting brake, they are taking the absolute piss. A fully loaded version of each is now 70k and 72k respectively.

@PetrolPed 8 ай бұрын

Ouch 😣

@davewatts7444 10 ай бұрын

The Passat estate is more practical and much cheaper but my word it's a looker

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

👍

@allosaurusfragilis7782 10 ай бұрын

Yh, i reckon about 300hp give or take, is the sweet spot these days, since cars are heavier than they used to be. That still allows you to push the car and engine close to its limits, which is huge fun, without going completely mad, speed wise. The cars above that are not wringable ....not without driving in a dangerous way. Which would be more fun....redlining a well sorted mini on a back road.....or trying to go quick in a big, wide supercar on the same bit.....you can probably answer that Pete. Both fun, in all honesty....but id take the mini, any day.

@jamesg5700 6 ай бұрын

Nice review, thank you!

@PetrolPed 6 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@goleafs3084 3 ай бұрын

Bring this to North America!!!!

@richardfoster2021 10 ай бұрын

Good review of the VW Arteon. You ask what VW car you we the views would like to be check out by you.. Why not do a review on the VW Polo GIT ??,, Not to sure if VW have a EV one coming soon ?

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

I’d love to drive one 👍

@michaelstaunton1632 10 ай бұрын

A real impressive vehicle great content for the channel 👌👌👌

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! 👍

@TheOffertonhatter 10 ай бұрын

A very nice car overall. Style, performance, space. What more would you want? Well, I hate touch screens in cars for the important bits such as climate control. Not keen on Black interiors. Bring back some lighter options. and finally The dashboard. It is just not special enough. But it does match the VW corporate design from the Up! upwards (sic). Now if it had a more interesting and premium looking interior I would be sold. It just does not look £65K inside sadly. Shame really as it is a good car overall.

@ScenesThroughTravels 10 ай бұрын

A very handsome looking car but it's such a shame it's getting replaced with the original Passat , A U-turn for VW ? Great Video Pete 💯💯🙏🙏👍👍

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻

@jamiep61 10 ай бұрын

One of my favourite Volkswagen Models and In my favourite Trim 😊

@AW8UK 10 ай бұрын

Nice vehicle but cost makes it currently irrelevant to me. Thanks for vid.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

No problem 👍

@texlad04 10 ай бұрын

Station wagon comes from...a wagon used to carry people and luggage from the station.

@watchcommander2012 10 ай бұрын

Great review exterior looks great but oh boy VW really need to up their game on their interior design if you are going to ask that sort of money from your customers you need to have an interior design that makes you feel happy every time you get in.

@mc4130 10 ай бұрын

What’s the weight limit on the tow hitch for the Arteon? Would the e mtb too wide? Did like the gratuitous Campag beauty shots!!

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Had to get some Campag carbon porn in there somehow 😂

@mc4130 10 ай бұрын

Hope you’re well Pete and getting on those bikes.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Yep. When I can 👍

@PiperLund 10 ай бұрын

It's a really cool car! A bit Mercedes estate feeling over it. Not for me pricewise though. Love your videos! Would be really nice, if possible, if you could write out metric measurements when you talk about lengths. I think you have a big international audience. I always have to sit with a converter when I watch British and American content. Well it works, but it would be more enjoyable. Doug Demuro does it. Anyways, thank you for great content!

@The_Next_Stage 10 ай бұрын

How about the latest version of the Touareg…? That might be an interesting VW to test, it looks nice for sure… 👍

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Going to the UK press drives in a couple of weeks 👍

@Gazmaz 10 ай бұрын

I should hope the road bike goes in that behemoth, I can get my road bike into my 2019 Honda Civic with the seats down!

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

😂😂

@itspart 10 ай бұрын

Yes just take the front wheel off it takes literally 10 seconds .... I do this and have done this all my car and pushbikeing life... Great car very good looking I was looking at one before I decided on my S4 Tdi

@HQBProductions 10 ай бұрын

A very nice and useful car there Peter but maybe a shade expensive….wait 5000 miles and a year to hit £39995…then it makes a bargain buy! 😃😃😃

@FAT8893 10 ай бұрын

Estate/Shooting Brake over SUV all day!

@francoisg3500 10 ай бұрын

First!! Evening all! Hope everyone is doing well and has a great weekend.

@Dmab2007 10 ай бұрын

Just watched this on joes channel u both released around the same time 😂😂

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Exactly the same time…by accident 😂

@ChatMotorsport 10 ай бұрын

so an RS6 is £115K?... or the Arteon-R with half the power is £60K..... which are you taking home?? my B8 Passat estate is only just big enough for my 2 GSD's so I doubt this would be big enough :(

@neilwhittaker8021 10 ай бұрын

Love the colour. Ticks all the boxes..

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@victorsong8416 10 ай бұрын

I've got two of these (both sedans, gasoline), a 2021 SE, and a 5 days old 2023 SEL R. The latter can do 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds. The '21 SE is somewhat slower - but it ain't no slouch... They are replacing a SUV and have replaced a two-seater roadster, respectively. I'm in the US, we don't get the station wagon - unfortunately. People here are obsessed with stupid SUVs and and even stupider trucks, instead of sensible hatchbacks and station wagons.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Nice 👌

@rohanw1989 9 ай бұрын

How did u find the braking on this car? Im not happy with the braking performance on mine.

@Odysseuss. 10 ай бұрын

4 or 5 cylinder? would look even better in cactus green. Torsen diff?? proper AWD???

@andy00grant 10 ай бұрын

Seen one of these when they released. It still had protective plastic and stuff all over it. I quickly hunted the VW website as I had no idea what it was. Then I found it and seen the price of it. Just not sure I'd part with that money on it.

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

Quite pricey 😬

@andy00grant 10 ай бұрын

@PetrolPed Yeah, I think so anyway. But then everything is going that way. I think I'd spend my money on a 335d to be honest. Or a 340 like you mentioned.

@thetruereview6780 10 ай бұрын

Petrol Ped, what brand and model shoes are you wearing?

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

They are Salomon X Ultra 04 👍

@philamato9583 10 ай бұрын

Always thought a shooting brake was a two door estate?

@front2427 10 ай бұрын

I like the Bianchi,since you said it weighed 7kg,what model is it?

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

I got a little excited. It’s about 7.5kg. It’s an Oltre XR4 with Campag WTO wheels and Campag Super Record EPS Groupset 👍

@front2427 10 ай бұрын

@@PetrolPed Thanks Ped it sounds good Ill have a wee look, cheers.

@user-xt4wr7yr9j 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful looking car😅

@peterchristo196 2 күн бұрын

Only one thing that worries me is what will it be worth in 2030 after the petrol bans come in!?! If there was an electric version I'd be sold on it!

@beano6452 10 ай бұрын

Can’t imagine they sell that many at that price point. It’s not just about the car; it’s about the dealer experience too. VW dealers (in my opinion) aren’t the best (think Kia, Hyundai, etc) and I definitely wouldn’t associate them with a £60k+ vehicle. When you visit an Audi dealer, you feel and see the (perceived) prestige. With VW, you feel (and are treated) like a tramp. Probs to Heritage Volkswagen in Bristol! Worst dealer experience ever with my ID.4 company car. VW is a brand in decline in my opinion.

@robertreid9079 10 ай бұрын

I have both an Audi and VW.Have had better experience at VW dealership than Audi.I guess it all comes down to the interaction of the people we deal with.👍

@beano6452 10 ай бұрын

@@robertreid9079 I too have a VW and Audi and my experience has been the polar opposite to yours. Also, recently visited a BMW/MINI dealership and the service was a step above both.

@robertreid9079 10 ай бұрын

@@beano6452 Absolutely agree that it very much depends on the dealership how you are treated. I too have always been impressed by how we have been looked after by our local BMW dealership in Exeter.

@divdo1 10 ай бұрын

Hmmm what height are you? Because if that was a Renault you would have a lot to say about the lack of leg room for the size of the car. Didn’t look “spacious” Maybe being forgiving because of the badge?

@PetrolPed 10 ай бұрын

6’3” 👍

@ThePorkypete51 10 ай бұрын

Will we ever get back to real buttons and switches?

@stevena9305 10 ай бұрын

Yes they are starting to move back to them now. New Tiguan has dropped the haptics on the steering wheel for example.

@Watson1973 10 ай бұрын

Great looking car but I hate the R trend of silver wing mirrors Rather all blue But it’s silver because of the window chrome work

@Retro_Rich 10 ай бұрын

A shooting brake is a 3 door. This is a 5 door so it’s an estate car or a station wagon.

@FAT8893 10 ай бұрын

It does have Shooting Brake design.

@philtoni794 10 ай бұрын

Nice looking car for a VW. However I would not pay that sort of money for a new one...they will look much better value as a 2 year old in my view.

@mikelodge1957 10 ай бұрын

Ok thanks Ped understood

@mrmawson2438 10 ай бұрын

all-new stunning Volkswagen EV sedan! Is the VW Aero the electric Passat or the ID6 or ID7? Autogefühl 752K subscribers

@evo5dave 10 ай бұрын

I have an Arteon (not an R) and the build and reliability is very poor. Mine's a 2019 but owners of the facelift are reporting even worse issues than I have experienced. Some are on their 6th steering wheel. Lots of issues with the DSG box too.

@stevena9305 10 ай бұрын

I ran a 2020 hatchback version for two years (27,000 miles) - not one single problem or issue and was very economical for a 2.0 litre petrol (190PS) achieving over 60mpg regularly on a good run. Fantastic car.

@evo5dave 6 ай бұрын

@@japanwatchconnection Would love to but my replies keep getting automatically deleted for some reason. If this one isn't deleted, I'm assuming it's automatically filtering references to certain sites.

@FightingGullyFarm 10 ай бұрын

Get a 3 dr golf gti 7.5 manual. Best gti ever??

@adammiller6932 10 ай бұрын

Is this the new Golf R Estate? As it’s totally a long R. It’s really nice but I’d 100% have a 340i instead.

@sfletcher83 10 ай бұрын

But more than an m340i touring which doesn't have the same dull as ditchwater drivetrain as every single car in the VW group "performance" tier.

@pm8465 10 ай бұрын

Its a great looking car especially in rhat colour. I've got the Volvo v90 cross country D4 estate, with Polestar upgrade. May not be as fast but personally, and I know it's subjective, I prefer the Volvo and think it maybe slightly bigger and more spacious, and my interior knocks spots off the VW.

@e.o9470 10 ай бұрын

I don’t get the point of buying this with that price tag over an Audi!

@ashleymoore1099 10 ай бұрын

Very low back seats to save headroom , his knees are sitting super high. Much nicer and more practical than a golf . What's the price difference because 60k is crazy