VW Golf 8 Corrosion Test - how VW cars are tested against rust

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3 жыл бұрын

This is how VW tests its cars against rusting process, including the new VW Golf 8.
Volkswagen engineers simulate the ageing process of a car in just six months to reproduce 12 years of car ownership by a customer. We explain the corrosion protection measures that apply for all Volkswagen models - classic combustion engine models as well as the new electric models from the ID. range.
Corrosion - commonly referred to as rust - is the enemy of all cars. That makes protecting against corrosion vital when it comes to value retention, safety, customer satisfaction and, not least, the image of a company. For decades, Volkswagen has been consistently applying corrosion protection measures to ensure high product quality. Corrosion protection starts long before production - in fact, it is designed into each new vehicle model from the outset. Months before and after production ramp-up, future vehicle models undergo comprehensive tests on a special proving ground and in the lab to simulate all the stresses a car goes through in its life in a short period of time.

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@adamgabor374
@adamgabor374 3 жыл бұрын
1 day in Romania = 12 years VW corrosion test
@popa777alexandru
@popa777alexandru 3 жыл бұрын
@TheCamshafter You have to drive through Romania and you will see 😂
@BlessOfficialRO
@BlessOfficialRO 3 жыл бұрын
vand golf 4
@Sander00
@Sander00 3 жыл бұрын
Try driving in Norway where we salt our roads during the winters 😂 Even a 2-3 year old VW starts showing sign of rust 🤣
@Sander00
@Sander00 3 жыл бұрын
@TheCamshafter, compared to other car brands, VW is among the worst when it comes to rust.
@mdma4202
@mdma4202 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@realtimecartravel
@realtimecartravel 3 жыл бұрын
They worked hard to recreate ordinary Moscow conditions.
@Josh_0579
@Josh_0579 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@aldoguzzi4663
@aldoguzzi4663 3 жыл бұрын
México is even worst 🤪
@realtimecartravel
@realtimecartravel 3 жыл бұрын
@@aldoguzzi4663 Really? Do you have much snow? )
@aldoguzzi4663
@aldoguzzi4663 3 жыл бұрын
@@realtimecartravel No, Potholes to die
@rayatkhan9561
@rayatkhan9561 3 жыл бұрын
@@aldoguzzi4663 Lol
@TXSmrs99
@TXSmrs99 3 жыл бұрын
6 months of "extreme" stress testing for what we would describe as a normal day on Romanian roads. Others can relate also, I'm sure of that.
@lazar2175
@lazar2175 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i live in Serbia, very close to Romania and we have similar road conditions, sometimes even worse if you have to drive on older village roads. Not sure about testing, but we sure have a lot of rusty Mk4, Mk5 and Mk6 golfs and B5 and B6 passats
@radoslavtomov9121
@radoslavtomov9121 3 жыл бұрын
Same in Bulgaria.
@answsentinel
@answsentinel 3 жыл бұрын
Same in Hungary.
@wilmar268
@wilmar268 3 жыл бұрын
Bolivia too
@wezelhond5572
@wezelhond5572 3 жыл бұрын
Same in the Netherlands
@johnthegreek7356
@johnthegreek7356 3 жыл бұрын
(Extreme tests) People who don’t live in Western Europe: *Laughs in everyday driving conditions *
@AA-777-AA
@AA-777-AA 3 жыл бұрын
The streets are the same in many parts of Germany because no one is taking care of them hahah
@overPowerPenguin
@overPowerPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
@@AA-777-AA Come on. I wish I had the streets that aren't cared in Germany on my country. Probably even the worst looks better than some in the Est.
@AA-777-AA
@AA-777-AA 3 жыл бұрын
@@overPowerPenguin Well I made a road trip trough 7 Eastern European countrys and the streets in a bad shape were pretty much the same for me
@blanco7726
@blanco7726 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha let me present you Belgium my good friend ;)
@geenicoll2920
@geenicoll2920 3 жыл бұрын
The Passat B6 clearly got lost on it's way to said testing .....
@serbanmirica8120
@serbanmirica8120 3 жыл бұрын
Had one for more than 10 years in my family and it had just a few spots of rust around the license plate lights in the rear, now I have a B7 and it's completely rust free.
@generationx227
@generationx227 3 жыл бұрын
@@serbanmirica8120 Not for long
@tainea-h6879
@tainea-h6879 3 жыл бұрын
Maid001 My B7 is an absolute nightmare with rust.
@shultz4877
@shultz4877 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah b6 have really big rust problems un my contry😅
@sheffield8184
@sheffield8184 3 жыл бұрын
And the mk4 golf
@rockervdrive
@rockervdrive 3 жыл бұрын
The conditions might be equivalent to 12 years, but it takes rust a while to really settle and spread. Not sure if you can condense 12 years of this process to just 6 months.
@UhOhUmm
@UhOhUmm 5 ай бұрын
It doesn't actually matter with modern cars, rust is barely worth thinking about. They all use a modern zinc coating which is applied to a fully assembled frame at this point so to get any worrying rust there has to be frame damage.
5 ай бұрын
​@@UhOhUmmGalvanized car bodies have been a thing for decades now, yet as I'm writing this, rust is munching it's way though 15 year old VW Golf sills so you can almost hear it... It's a surprisingly common misconception that galvanizing solves all car rust issues. If people only knew pretty much all the old rusty cars they see are actually made of galvanized steel...
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett 5 ай бұрын
@@UhOhUmm clearly you don't live in the northeast us or anywhere that uses calcium chloride road salts
@UhOhUmm
@UhOhUmm 5 ай бұрын
@ decades ago panels we're coated separately or in selective areas, full body coating before painting is not a that old, if we take the Golf for example only from Golf 5 did they start full body plating. Of course it doesn't prevent rust completely, with a lot of paint damage the coating itself will not protect it for long.
@1marcelfilms
@1marcelfilms 5 ай бұрын
And why would they want you to keep the car for 12 years?
@optimushd1044
@optimushd1044 3 жыл бұрын
The trick is that they used a new Golf for each scene. lol
@nikko1984
@nikko1984 3 жыл бұрын
Busted 😅
@adamsmidkiff1
@adamsmidkiff1 Жыл бұрын
This!
@Gooshi39
@Gooshi39 3 жыл бұрын
The most British sounding German ever.
@dennisreilly6012
@dennisreilly6012 3 жыл бұрын
and simultaneously inaudible, so strange
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisreilly6012 He sounds like he is trying to make himself sound more sophisticated than he is.
@sebasti02
@sebasti02 3 жыл бұрын
He even said autumn instead of fall
@user-zt4ry9hm9u
@user-zt4ry9hm9u 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds constipated...
@Thawhid
@Thawhid 3 жыл бұрын
Lool
@NotCommanderShepard
@NotCommanderShepard 3 жыл бұрын
"That car was perfectly seasoned." - Gordon Ramsay
@strafniki1080
@strafniki1080 3 жыл бұрын
Season the camera
@BiHsinalco
@BiHsinalco 3 жыл бұрын
As someone working in metal surface protection in automotive industry. I must say they really do have high and precise standards. We often have to test their parts in salt chambers (emulates corrosion) for a long time. Automotive industry has one of the highest standards in the world
@furkanesen99
@furkanesen99 2 жыл бұрын
then whic one audi 3 sportback or golf 8?
@jimj2683
@jimj2683 7 ай бұрын
Why are VWs usually rusting more than competitors like Toyota?
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 5 ай бұрын
​@@jimj2683they're about the same. Only Volvo could be considered an outlier in the industry.
@kaiserhhaie841
@kaiserhhaie841 5 ай бұрын
@@jimj2683 maybe because the owners dont take care of them properly
@quyle9483
@quyle9483 5 ай бұрын
​@@jimj2683where? Where do you see this? Maybe a 15 year old vw compared to a 1 year old toyota? I use to work for both
@helsonly722
@helsonly722 3 жыл бұрын
craigslist be like: mint condition, Lady driven, garage kept, never driven hard. only 6 month old.
@TristanSilverwood
@TristanSilverwood 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq comments be like: Non stolen joke, never seen before, completely original, not overused, 3 years old
@FVBmovies
@FVBmovies 3 жыл бұрын
@@TristanSilverwood Doesn't make it less valid. He forgot to add "driven only to church on Sunday's".
@exaltedstinger1431
@exaltedstinger1431 3 жыл бұрын
@@FVBmovies And what about "No low-ball offers, I know what I have"? That's a cult classic.
@V3DT
@V3DT 5 ай бұрын
I can say as someone who lives in Ohio where they salt a lot in the winter because of lake effect, when I've been to one of the local junkyards I've noticed a lot of older early 2000s VWs with very little rust, yet some slightly newer are rusted pretty bad. The only different I kept seeing is the ones with little or almost no rust on the body were made in Germany while the ones with easily noticeable rot on the body where made in other places like Mexico.
5 ай бұрын
The late 90's and early 2000's VW's (like Golf IV) are not bad. But mid 2000's and on (like Golf V) are a lot worse...
@Matys1975
@Matys1975 5 ай бұрын
Spray FluidFilm once per year in the fall on your undercarriage and you will not have rust.
@CurrySchuessel
@CurrySchuessel 5 ай бұрын
That can be true, some factories don’t have the same experience. They also use weaker steel
5 ай бұрын
@@Matys1975 Structural rust often starts from inside the cavities, so you'll have to be thorough with Fluidfilm of whatever you use.
@GabrielHakulin
@GabrielHakulin 5 ай бұрын
Very right. Even in Europe. Car made for Central Europe has different treatment against rust compared to Southern Europe or Scandinavia.
@BluWarta92
@BluWarta92 3 жыл бұрын
*After rust protection* Nobody: VW: Das Rust.
@Alex-zh9lj
@Alex-zh9lj 3 жыл бұрын
@Philipp Weidner ich glaub das hätte ein Scherz sein sollen
@davewright732
@davewright732 3 жыл бұрын
Tested to last through warranty periods :)
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 3 жыл бұрын
yep as with all german cars..soon as the warranty is up it'll start rusting and falling to pieces. i see these vw's daily full of rust...these twats still buy them though..i wouldn't have a vw audi or merc if you gave me it for free
@nikko1984
@nikko1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaachunt5799 These german will answer to you : that's customer's fault! In every areas they're doing that. Verdammt' Kunde! Nein nein nein, der Kunde musst bezahlen! Wie alt ist den Fahrzeug??... Nur 3 Jahren? Hmmm Wolfgang was hast du gemacht?!... Not even 100000km the turbo from 1.4 TSI dead. I'd rather to take a dacia now than buying recent VAG products. At you're not disappointed.
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikko1984 pos junk cars. would never ever buy one..
@benjibailey
@benjibailey 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaachunt5799 you do know that VW are one the best car engineering companies in the world? These cars are built to last. I still own a mk5 with 160k miles
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjibailey lol yeah right my bosses passat rusted away in 8 years flat. he crapped it last year. these junk cars fall to pieces.
@immDroidz
@immDroidz 3 жыл бұрын
These "stress tests" are just every day conditions where i'm from in northern Sweden. My 2009 passat is rusted to all hell in the wheel wells and the trunk.
@immDroidz
@immDroidz 3 жыл бұрын
@@NSDflug Yeah, my friend got a 2013 and it started rusting after just a few months, at least the dealer payed to fix it.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually I will be moving to Sweden from the U.S....(most likely in the far north).
@immDroidz
@immDroidz 3 жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 that's awesome, I live in the "middle north" part, I met an American that moved out here 5 years ago and he said the only complaint was the taxes haha. May I ask, why Sweden of all places?
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
I think they don't galvanize their cars any more, the Golf 4 didn't have such problems. But that's the case for all German manufacturers, this cars are today only built for the typical leasing period.
@user-zt4ry9hm9u
@user-zt4ry9hm9u 3 жыл бұрын
So true also had a completely rotten 2007 Passat at 6 years old. Meanwhile my 2000 opel astra g has tiny rust on the rear arch's and 2007 Citroen C4 looks surprisingly like new underneath.
@MrMladen942
@MrMladen942 3 жыл бұрын
This blue golf will end up in Eastern Europe car lot, “nana drove it to farmers market on Sundays only.”
@boss9243
@boss9243 3 жыл бұрын
Balkan?🥰
@Anonymous13448
@Anonymous13448 5 ай бұрын
that wheel spin transition was perfect
@Christian-sf4gf
@Christian-sf4gf 3 жыл бұрын
I'm German, but ... VW cars + many from its VAG group are getting more and more expensive, VW / AUDI has become very arrogant, the production is getting cheaper and cheaper. Some of the customers are test drivers, manufacturing defects, and the following repair costs, which the customers very often have to pay for themselves. Did they have to work properly at VW for the video? Did they test the Golf 7 like the golf 8 ? The funny thing is that the Golf 7 has very big problems with water in the interior. - Loudspeakers seal the doors until they start to leak and water leaks into the interior. - Condensation from the air conditioning in the interior, ..... Since the Golf 4 is no longer fully galvanized, suddenly rust on the roof, etc. Unfortunately, the cars are no longer built to last ...
@Mr.Riffian
@Mr.Riffian 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly if you want a car without rust problems you will have to buy a French car. They have other problems but not rust related.
@MrWotan109
@MrWotan109 3 жыл бұрын
VW love their recalls which customers have to waste time to bring in their car to dealers.
@ALINUED
@ALINUED 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Riffian French car? no thanks, i don't wanna became an electrician.
@janix3723
@janix3723 3 жыл бұрын
@@ALINUED :D
@bendude6748
@bendude6748 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Riffian is that a joke? French cars are one of the worst for rust lol
@Alexandru-T.
@Alexandru-T. 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a very easy test. As mentioned, for some countries these conditions are found in a daily commute. If you want reliable results, test it like this for 3 years every single day.
@vladmihai306
@vladmihai306 5 ай бұрын
the car has to be on the market, they don't have 3 years...
@jackpez
@jackpez 5 ай бұрын
yeah but they literally drive it for 6 months straight and like they said it’s equivalent to 12 years
@Dexspic
@Dexspic 5 ай бұрын
Well if u want to wait 12 years to have the car with pay it...@@jackpez
@gothips
@gothips 3 жыл бұрын
This Golf having its last heavenly days before its Turkey experience
@oliverthefookinqueen4221
@oliverthefookinqueen4221 3 жыл бұрын
I heard Erdogan loves making roads and bridges
@gothips
@gothips 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverthefookinqueen4221 kulakların cok iyi duyuyor demek ki.
@oliverthefookinqueen4221
@oliverthefookinqueen4221 3 жыл бұрын
@@gothips 😘😘
@osmanaslan6232
@osmanaslan6232 3 жыл бұрын
ahahaha
@dragosalexpop
@dragosalexpop 5 ай бұрын
So that's why the bonnet of my MK7 is full of chips. They tested for it (1:38) and they went with such thin paint nonetheless... Also the rust starting to form along the wheel arches shows they did a really good job at protecting it even it they know it and tested it (1:53)
@tomasrandom6430
@tomasrandom6430 3 жыл бұрын
just buy back high millage 10 year+ old cars that were driven in bad conditions and improve from there. That would save you so much "testing" time.
@arunmfive
@arunmfive 3 жыл бұрын
That's literally what Toyota does. They simply buy back cars that have been pushed to the extreme by its owners and that still run. This accelerated testing doesn't really account for actual wear and tear and damage caused by deteriorated parts that happens over the course of say 10 years of ownership.
@tomasrandom6430
@tomasrandom6430 3 жыл бұрын
@@arunmfive I believe this "testing" is just for the marketing..
@Felipaugustoex2612
@Felipaugustoex2612 3 жыл бұрын
And how would they test new cars?! They have to start these tests even before launching the vehicle
@DZGMR94
@DZGMR94 3 жыл бұрын
So you are saying that new cars don't need tests? I can't believe how stupid you are.
@boxr_4214
@boxr_4214 3 жыл бұрын
that's helpful but only as an aid to accelerated testing. they can't just make some changes and hope for the best. the new cars can be tested, and some information can be gathered from old cars. but waiting 10 years simply isn't quick enough to make good changes.
@KGWOLF77
@KGWOLF77 3 жыл бұрын
Have 2 Golfs... 1990 Mk2, that we have for 17 years, 10 of them was all year usage on Eastern European roads (gravel, forest, mud, salt, snow, destroyed asphalt), and only now, there are some issues with corrosion (only where paint chipped or erased). 2007 mk5, bought in 2018, before was driving in Frankfurt-Main region, it was almost in mint condition. Now, all underneath is pealing off and rusting, especially where spot welds are. Car is accident free, original paint all around. Thin, water based paints and cold zinc coating is a mistake.
@adriannp.
@adriannp. 5 ай бұрын
Golf 4 here, 22 years in spain, between the Mountains and the sea, 0% rust. Its awesome.
@neino36
@neino36 3 жыл бұрын
VW proudly announcing : "How vw cars are tested against corrosion." Me who's learned from experience: "They aren't..."
@scoobysean555
@scoobysean555 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait 10 years n 5 owners later who don't clean underneath arches in the shitty gaps you will have rust 🤣
@generationx227
@generationx227 3 жыл бұрын
Me to
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing they probably test is if they start rusting within the first 2 years of warranty (the rest of the car is also designed with this goal, and this is not only the case at VW).
@bigvinny333
@bigvinny333 3 жыл бұрын
You should see quite a lot of Mk5 Golfs where I live in the mild weathered southern UK. There is plenty of rust on the front wings particularly at the top of the wheel arch, sills, rear wheel arches and door bottoms. Japanese and Korean cars of the same age generally appear rust free. I guess this is VW doing their own PR !
@martinweizenacker7129
@martinweizenacker7129 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigvinny333 Right, but due to it's shoddy build quality the Mk5 Golf is a disgrace to the previous ones anyways. The Mk4 was the last good one. It peaked with the Mk2 - very durable, easy to repair, no major issues with rust (and we're talking about a 30+ years old car here) and in my opinion very good looking also. 😎
@supersanex_x
@supersanex_x 3 жыл бұрын
Carwow needs a test track like this.
@gabrielmanole6715
@gabrielmanole6715 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, as always!
@evokeziah4290
@evokeziah4290 3 жыл бұрын
Tests by VW are so trust worthy just like how they did the emission tests. 🤣
@eppyz
@eppyz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Toyota too with their scandal that killed how many people??? Yet we are worried about emissions 🙄
@CoreMaster111
@CoreMaster111 3 жыл бұрын
They do these test and the are like: "Yes, this is rust". And then they do nothing to stop this rust from appearing. Of course they also take notes of everything and then throw them into the trash bin because they clearly don't remember any of them when they start working on their next car.
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
I think so, the Golf 5 for example is rusting very fast, also the T5. They know how to get a good corrosion protection, the Golf 4 didn't have this problems. The same with Mercedes, they rusted from the early ninetees on (when they switched to water based coating) until the mid 2000s.
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonm1447 golf 5 was a lemon, but after that they fixed the rust issues
@MrZimmaframe
@MrZimmaframe 11 ай бұрын
Mk5 Golf and mk6 Golf: Inner wheel arches where leaves and debris collect, and rear wheel arches at the front part where the fabric liner goes behind the plastic guard. (Top of front wheel arch mk5 specifically)
@Dakoo
@Dakoo 5 ай бұрын
Also around door handles, trunks door and spoiler etc....vw never again
@eggbirdtherooster
@eggbirdtherooster 5 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2000 Golf Mk4 and besides some minor little bubbles on the bottom of the front wheel arches just above the side skirt, totally rust free! Most people don’t clean their wheel arches, bottom of the doors or what ever little ‘weak spots’ properly that often or never. Some cars and brands are more vulnerable for it ofcourse. But taking care of it is mostly the key factor.. 😏
@FredGoe
@FredGoe 3 жыл бұрын
Golf Mk5 and Touran Never Heard of it
@Chowbizful
@Chowbizful 3 жыл бұрын
My golf 5 had a lot of rust
@mcniki12
@mcniki12 3 жыл бұрын
i own a golf 5 2004 production , there is only a couple of rust spots. No real big issues.
@MrWotan109
@MrWotan109 3 жыл бұрын
Cause the real engineers died with the mk5
@mcniki12
@mcniki12 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWotan109 it's much better. Then the mk4. It corners better, handles better. More space in the car. Also it's cheaper to maintain then the mk4. I never considered mk4 an option to buy, after i drove one. mk5 is nothing like the mk4. Much better car if you take care of it.
@nikko1984
@nikko1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcniki12 what engine do you have ? That 1.9 tdi maybe? Because as up now, it's the only one who few of them survived on the roads..
@junkieeebj
@junkieeebj 3 жыл бұрын
and then u have every golf up to date that has corosion issues on front right and left fender lol
@bendude6748
@bendude6748 3 жыл бұрын
Guessing you mean the front wing/fender panels seeing as the bumpers are plastic lol
@kerstas10
@kerstas10 3 жыл бұрын
@JoneS SenoJ volvo sweden.
@Ivzu
@Ivzu 3 жыл бұрын
@JoneS SenoJ No VW trucks are even worse.
@klavier285
@klavier285 3 жыл бұрын
My mk5 had the rocker panels rusted, apparently very common on that gen.
@junkieeebj
@junkieeebj 3 жыл бұрын
@@klavier285 it is actualy on every Golf in the last 10years. I had to remove the "sponge" material under the front right and left fender which was soaking the water, rotting and then causing the rocker panels to get rusty.
@user-xl7fn9zf6b
@user-xl7fn9zf6b 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually so cool and interesting to watch imagine there ws a video like this for every car
@Thecris99
@Thecris99 3 жыл бұрын
The frame is identical to Golf 7. Why VW makes all these tests 😂 : you can just take a Golf 7 with high mileage from Romania
@nikko1984
@nikko1984 3 жыл бұрын
Plastic is fantastic. MQB chassis is maybe updating like a smartphone. Maybe not 😉
@n9wox
@n9wox 3 жыл бұрын
After the test is complete, I want the engineers to try to remove the pinch bolt holding the upper control arms in place. It's nearly impossible without drilling it out.
@JohnCBradley
@JohnCBradley 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what’s putting me off doing the bushings on my 6 year old A5
@paddyici6629
@paddyici6629 3 жыл бұрын
plenty of heat, put the nut back on the thread half way and hammer the shit out of it, took me almost an hour of heating and hitting to get it to move, putting it back together just cover it in copper anti seize
@tt-rs1457
@tt-rs1457 5 ай бұрын
The MK 8 does not have an upper strut, it has the same Frontaxle vw used on the 1973er Super Beetle , Mc Pherson. No doublewishbone, that's to expensive for a cheap Golf.
@eggbirdtherooster
@eggbirdtherooster 3 жыл бұрын
My 2000 mk4 is still rust free and still going strong !
@zdenekvelcer4067
@zdenekvelcer4067 2 жыл бұрын
Mine too,no corosion.. mk4 coupe 2002..
@Mikescze
@Mikescze 10 ай бұрын
you must have very low mileage or no salt on the roads in the winter. Mk4 golfs are usually very rusty where i am from
@tt-rs1457
@tt-rs1457 5 ай бұрын
Because of the MK4 is the only galvanised unibody of all Golfs......
@Alex-AK321
@Alex-AK321 5 ай бұрын
my 96 has some minor rust bubbles on the fender. and under the car like the brakes and stuff is very rusted.
@eggbirdtherooster
@eggbirdtherooster 5 ай бұрын
@@Mikescze Lots of cars from that era can be rusty.. especially if you don’t clean the areas where debris accumulate round fenders, wheel arches etc that often or never. I live in the Netherlands. I know it’s not Scandinavia or Russia or something 😉 but still we’ve got here almost every year salty roads.. but yeah Mk4 have some little weak points like; bottom of the front wheel arches near the skirts. Beneath the rear window on the trunk cause of use of wrong window sealing kit. Some Audi’s round those years had the same issue.
@anyacori2898
@anyacori2898 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Nice content😎
@dhies1792
@dhies1792 3 жыл бұрын
well u wont even hear a noise inside a new car. they must test these cars after 4-5 years. so its pointless. i live in rome, the roads here are the worse, had my golf 6 2 years ago, no noise at all, just after a year and every part of the car is making noises. so it depends on road conditions.
@jackshotton9222
@jackshotton9222 3 жыл бұрын
Did you not watch it? It says the stresses endured are equivalent to 12 years worth of road driving.
@rkan2
@rkan2 3 жыл бұрын
They test the cars after months (not years, which would equate to probably ~100 years of testing :D) of accelerated testing...
@dhies1792
@dhies1792 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackshotton9222 that dont mean a thing. a real world condition is taking out the car on normal roads and test it.what manufacturers say sometimes dont really add up.
@nartykros2756
@nartykros2756 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Rome too, and my car also make noise noise and I have to change suspensions
@peterzingler6221
@peterzingler6221 3 жыл бұрын
Cars are build for roads asphalt roads. Not a 1000 year old horse path.
@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE
@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE 3 жыл бұрын
the key phrase at the very end is - "12 year warranty against rusting THROUGH'' not that it wouldn't rust at all.
@ytuberization
@ytuberization 3 жыл бұрын
Because that is technically impossible. You have to use rust-free steal, but this is very heavy and has other disadvantages (see DeLorean).
@hagglundguy
@hagglundguy 3 жыл бұрын
@Dogs Bollocks Galvanised steel is just steel with a galvanising coating. You do know what that means? The galvanising is literally designed to rust. It oxidises slower and so protects the steel underneath for longer but it's main funcition is to rust.
@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE
@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE 3 жыл бұрын
@@hagglundguy Rust or no, the new cars are generally made to last designed amount of years so that eventually (hopefully sooner) you would replace it with a new one. and thick undercoating would probably take care of the rust protblem for years but even brand new Jaguars comes with just a paint protecting the metal under the car.
@hagglundguy
@hagglundguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@InBoostWeTrust7MGTE I knew all of that already except for the fact Jaguars don't come with undercoating. I live in Finland where cars tend to rust really fast due to salt and changing conditions. I just corrected @Dogs_Bollocks on the fact that galvanising is designed to rust.
@tdcm666
@tdcm666 3 жыл бұрын
Just make the whole car out of plastic It won't rust
@martinleska4292
@martinleska4292 3 жыл бұрын
@@Max_s0506 Only outer shell on Trabant was made from mixture of fenol resin and wool fibers. Chassis and floor was made from metal. Its dangerous, because it looks good until something important fails because if you cant see rust you think is OK. On metal body cars - unimportant body panels rusts through first before some important parts fails.
@edwinator46
@edwinator46 3 жыл бұрын
If they make cars out of plastic, they would melt on the sun. Especially around the engine where its hot.
@joshuachristiansen2626
@joshuachristiansen2626 3 жыл бұрын
Saturns had plastic pannels. Chevy cobalts had a few as well. Plenty strong enough
@xxFobioxx
@xxFobioxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwinator46 are you sure about that
@edwinator46
@edwinator46 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxFobioxx no
@Alloonney
@Alloonney 3 жыл бұрын
Now show the TSI and DSG test.
@Elaba_
@Elaba_ 3 жыл бұрын
The timing chain broke.
@luca35821
@luca35821 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elaba_ my 1.2 tsi just felt that
@mouzz
@mouzz 3 жыл бұрын
is it problematic ? im thinking of buying a used mk6 1.4 tsi 122hp with dsg
@Elaba_
@Elaba_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@mouzz Do your research on Google. From what I have heard they have improved the engines recently by using a timing belt.
@Alloonney
@Alloonney 3 жыл бұрын
@@mouzz not all really bad.... But if you ask me, i should not by 1.4 fsi/tsi private.
@fal218
@fal218 3 жыл бұрын
I have golf gti mk7 with 400,000KM and had two issues ! Once with car’s computer system but covered by the warranty around 40000km as I remember and just recently I had a problem with the gear and I would say I’m very satisfy with the car . Now with COVID-19 I think it will stay longer than planned!
@serbanmirica8120
@serbanmirica8120 3 жыл бұрын
400k km on a GTI? WOW. I used to look at GTIs with less than 150k km on the market, but you changed my mind.
@sv_cheats1970
@sv_cheats1970 3 жыл бұрын
@@serbanmirica8120 zavisi gdje se vozi. GTI koji je vožen po Njemačkoj autocesti većinu svog života nije isti kao GTI koji se vozi po balkanskim cestama.
@samsudinsamke8352
@samsudinsamke8352 3 жыл бұрын
German roads I suppose..
@ur2slob724
@ur2slob724 3 жыл бұрын
400,000kms wtf? Photos of your cluster or your lying
@sv_cheats1970
@sv_cheats1970 3 жыл бұрын
@@ur2slob724 its belivable
@dosko9980
@dosko9980 4 ай бұрын
Only ever had rust problems with the passat b6 in my family. My old golf 4 is still being driven rust-free by a family member. Passat b5s are still very much rust free driven in poland and all around eastern europe. The only problems we ever faced where their turbocharged gasoline engines.
@sorelaxing5557
@sorelaxing5557 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@ei9841
@ei9841 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: They are not, they start rusting after 18 months.
@ei9841
@ei9841 3 жыл бұрын
@Albinoid Maggot But they do.
@ei9841
@ei9841 3 жыл бұрын
@Albinoid Maggot Sweden bro, but VW such more. My bosses car 1 year.
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
@Albinoid Maggot they stopped to galvanize their cars (like the Golf 4 was). Golf 5s usually have big problems with corrosion, with rust holes in the sheet metal after less than 10 years.
@foppeslotegraaf-du5ye
@foppeslotegraaf-du5ye 5 ай бұрын
The golf 2 was the last golf with corrosion protection
@Grudgie
@Grudgie 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think this is what they actually do, but I get the feeling they don't do this much at all to test for rust - this is just a nice short movie that give s the impression that they are really thorough.. I could be wrong and that would be lovely.
@joeridenour
@joeridenour 5 ай бұрын
thank you vw for testing this.
@Danny-204
@Danny-204 5 ай бұрын
Only time will really tell, and with my 23 year old mk4 golf. It has been proven to work, there is no rust anywhere, she is going strong.
@florinarnautu8393
@florinarnautu8393 3 жыл бұрын
They test them so goot that my 12 years passat gets eaten by rust on every pannel , even the roof....
@avium746
@avium746 3 жыл бұрын
all this testing, yet they still rust like no tomorrow.
@dariussedleckas8194
@dariussedleckas8194 3 жыл бұрын
This golf was literally made this year
@funkblack
@funkblack 3 жыл бұрын
@@dariussedleckas8194 Probably not this year.
@dariussedleckas8194
@dariussedleckas8194 3 жыл бұрын
@TheCamshafter well 9 years is a long time tbh, but time will show not saying that vw makes best cars but not gonna trash them right away
@ndhkroatien999
@ndhkroatien999 3 жыл бұрын
good thing about australia. NO RUST
@DobermannJeff
@DobermannJeff 3 жыл бұрын
@Zombie Head wich
@TheShubbah
@TheShubbah 3 жыл бұрын
all this testing for my VW to collect water in the rear passenger side door and spew out about half a pint of water when I open the door! if not it seeps into the rear passenger side foot-well.. Good job lads!
@deetailing
@deetailing 4 ай бұрын
Best video on this content on YT, well done. Any chance of a UK one anyone?
@legyes
@legyes 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. That "extreme road surface" is like sine wave. Real road surfaces are more like triangle or saw shape (for example potholes and patches on patches), and never symmetrical. Like caress vs hits. Just test on the hungarian "road 52" at the maximum allowed speed.
@Weihrauch88
@Weihrauch88 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how hard VW test them. THEIR FRONT WINGS STILL ROT. Mk3 to current models. They still haven't got this right.
@Weihrauch88
@Weihrauch88 3 жыл бұрын
@TheCamshafter spot on. 2010 mk6 golf here. Suffers with all you mentioned.
@mikeygti8930
@mikeygti8930 3 жыл бұрын
2008 Tiguan here, front wings, perfect but have a small patch developing on the A post and micro blisters on the doors and tailgate. Getting corrosion underneath now as well.
@XxBluton36xX
@XxBluton36xX 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried putting it in rice?
@19ZORES72
@19ZORES72 Ай бұрын
Golf 2, almost no corrosion Golf 3, sometimes a lot of corrosion Golf 4, 5, 6, 7, dead under front fenders after 6-8 years... What a progress!
@codyrap95
@codyrap95 3 жыл бұрын
This might be the best VW ad ever.
@muwahh98
@muwahh98 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the older vw had world class corrosion resistance. Newer ones. Not so much..
@tomhill3907
@tomhill3907 3 жыл бұрын
Which ones😂😂they all rust like fuck
@Marauder252
@Marauder252 3 жыл бұрын
From the Golf 4 the body is very strong aginst rust. They copied Audi how to galvanize and make rear fenders etc.
@tomhill3907
@tomhill3907 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marauder252 aside from the front wings crumbling on the mk4?...
@socalguy829
@socalguy829 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomhill3907 bear in mind mk4 golf is now 20+ years old. i had mk1 seat leon which had very little rust despite having hard life on UK roads
@furkanesen99
@furkanesen99 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Marauder2522022 golf 8 or 2022 audi 3 sporback?
@ewanduplessis9682
@ewanduplessis9682 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota: Laughing
@poolplexer
@poolplexer 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@madfrosty5228
@madfrosty5228 3 жыл бұрын
Yes theycorrode even more , I had 3 of them , good for desert not for winter and salt , very overrated cars .
@jigrodrigues
@jigrodrigues 3 жыл бұрын
Toyotas are worse when it comes to rust
@jae9843
@jae9843 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's Japanese cars in general: Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Mazda... They all seem to be terrible when it comes to rust.
@TheSkinheadlad
@TheSkinheadlad 3 жыл бұрын
@@madfrosty5228 totally agree, just bought by many who dont know much about cars..
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool
@ayboss44
@ayboss44 3 жыл бұрын
Engineers forgot the Audi A3 8V
@midistunt9933
@midistunt9933 3 жыл бұрын
algeria be like : that a normal day
@wwethemes2341
@wwethemes2341 3 жыл бұрын
Tunisia Be like : are you challenging me?
@ChillBeats96
@ChillBeats96 3 жыл бұрын
3endi golf 7 wellat chghol golf 1 , tgerbe3 m kol jiha
@havnav2842
@havnav2842 3 жыл бұрын
Morocco be like : You guys are having roads. Destroyed asphalt evrywhere even whithin the city.
@zinomilan2220
@zinomilan2220 3 жыл бұрын
دزاير تع هاربين
@havnav2842
@havnav2842 3 жыл бұрын
@Bizcar Pro i know some moroccans who lived in belgium whenever they go into a pothole they start cursing the homeland and praising belgium for great roads. One guy once said that roads in belgium are like a carpets.
@motorenbastler9289
@motorenbastler9289 3 жыл бұрын
Nice the corossion protection is good but a golf ends up with a engine Damage at 40000km 🤣🤣
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't good, many cars after the Golf 4 (which was probably galvanized) started rusting very fast, the Golf 5 for example. They only test to get sure it don't start within the warranty period
@motorenbastler9289
@motorenbastler9289 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonm1447 true. VW is shit 🤣
@spicyroo4429
@spicyroo4429 3 жыл бұрын
All of this especially the rough road looks completely normal lol this is what my fiesta goes through almost every day in Wisconsin lol. The suspension simulation looks smoother than what it Is like driving in Milwaukee.
@wisecountryman49
@wisecountryman49 3 жыл бұрын
The Golf is and forever will be, the best family hatchback.
@SamuelHernandez-oh9vl
@SamuelHernandez-oh9vl 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently they didn't do this to the mk6 GLI's, I got rust building under my door panels already
@Twin.motors
@Twin.motors 3 жыл бұрын
looks like a normal day in Romania
@randall96
@randall96 3 жыл бұрын
Only 1000 genuine miles. 1 owner. Been checked regularly. Mint condition like new. Truly taken care of this beauty. No offers no refunds.
@giochinina100
@giochinina100 3 жыл бұрын
Golf , always on high level since 1979
@davisdesigns1153
@davisdesigns1153 3 жыл бұрын
I have to give credit to german cars and their rust protection, my Ford started rusting after only being 5 years old
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
A golf 5 is rusting even earlier. This test may look impressive - the result at the cars is not impressive.
@AdrianKurian
@AdrianKurian 3 жыл бұрын
Rusting where? I’ve a Ford that’s 14.5 years old with no rust outside except the underbody
@davisdesigns1153
@davisdesigns1153 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianKurian roof seam and Door
@AdrianKurian
@AdrianKurian 3 жыл бұрын
Angelo 😲 really? Which car is it and where do you live?
@PurserArts
@PurserArts 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine doing all this tests and then explain to everyone that your cars fail to comply with the pollution test...xd
@TheChazas
@TheChazas 3 жыл бұрын
old news.
@vulturesus
@vulturesus 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive
@rugijofrey3685
@rugijofrey3685 3 ай бұрын
Nice vehicle comfortable and nice to use.
@sebastiansellers5849
@sebastiansellers5849 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they tested the durability of the oil pump in my 2007 passat.
@D3nn1s_NL
@D3nn1s_NL 5 ай бұрын
Or the water pump in the golfs. Something so simple, but looks like they want some issues on every car but only to appear after the warranty has ended 😂
@bap60E
@bap60E 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. When i rent à golf 7 in Munich , the car was 1 year. i saw some screws with big corrosion. Please improve your tests...or use the elementary rules of conception
@BlackRNGesus
@BlackRNGesus 3 жыл бұрын
let me gues? a screw in the wheel housing? I drive a golf 7 and no problems. Even tho im living in the apine region
@jaroslavvolek6222
@jaroslavvolek6222 5 ай бұрын
It’s fascinating how high standards they have for all those tests. Although, both VW I have, 2011 Scirocco and 2020 Caddy suffer from rust from pain chips. But that’s the price you pay for using the cars daily, in Eastern Europe😂
@aor3200
@aor3200 3 жыл бұрын
In Finland we have salty roads from beginning of october until end of April. There is lot of that stuff.. Loose rocks/sand which hit first for paint, and then salt bath finishes that damage. Almost brand new cars are in very bad condition :(
@BITTYBOY121
@BITTYBOY121 3 жыл бұрын
What a great shame that BMW and Mercedes don't do the same corrosion tests and offer a 12 year corrosion warranty as Volkswagen !
@Beluga..
@Beluga.. 5 ай бұрын
Exactly ! I got corrosion on my 1 serie e87 i am mad
@BITTYBOY121
@BITTYBOY121 5 ай бұрын
@@Beluga.. Tell me about it !... I had bad corrosion on my 1999 E39 540i back in 2013, It was so bad that the rear jacking points just collapsed whist I was changing tires ! - Sorry you've got the same corrosion problem on your E87 :(
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 4 ай бұрын
@@Beluga.. How did you manage? They're generally super good for rust. I'm in Norway where EVERYTHING rusts, even plastic yet the first gen 1-series doesn't, same with the 2nd gen.
@BlessOfficialRO
@BlessOfficialRO 3 жыл бұрын
A new Check Engine light generation ?:D
@Ryzza5
@Ryzza5 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile my 2015 Audi A3 leaks large amounts of water near the rear passenger grab handles any time it rains heavily - most likely via the sunroof. The Audi dealer was unable to fix the issue.
@aidantanny7230
@aidantanny7230 3 жыл бұрын
Man- looks fun to be a corrosion test driver for VW
@tatoum9743
@tatoum9743 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to reproduce different climate in laboratory, it’s okay for some hours but the best and realistic test conditions are to put these cars in Nordic country for snow and on a tropical island. For example, the salty corrosion is the worst in Reunion island 🏝
@anthonyimouche541
@anthonyimouche541 3 жыл бұрын
Je ne pense pas qu’ici ça soit pire que quelque part d’autre comme l’Irlande par exemple ou les routes sont salées, et le temps humide 90% de l’année. Ici ça serais plutôt la chaleur et les UV. C’est un climat idéal pour tester la résistance des plastiques, des peintures etc je vois beaucoup de Renault et Peugeot qui ont moins de 10ans avec des peintures ou le vernis est parti et des plastique ternis par le soleil
@tomluca2697
@tomluca2697 3 жыл бұрын
Engineers aren’t dumb- there are VW test facilities in Norway and South Africa
@tatoum9743
@tatoum9743 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomluca2697 Engineers aren’t dumb but the VW executives could be... You’ve already forget the diesel gate. It’s just a call to try their cars in Reunion island: we have a abrasive road near a volcano with tropical or dry season 😊
@pilditajs71
@pilditajs71 3 жыл бұрын
If VW is already testing, then why are the new cars rusting faster than the Golf Mk2 of its time?
@Big1_
@Big1_ 3 жыл бұрын
These tests are fake like the exhaust of that blue golf.
@stco2426
@stco2426 3 ай бұрын
If you're listening VW, the car-coloured parts of the car generally hold up reasonably well unless chipped. Sadly, there are plenty of forward creases and areas on VWs that are prone to chipping but moving on. The parts that fail prematurely are either the subframes, which have vastly inferior coatings to topside finishes (and compared to old IMO) or the underneath or void spaces that often have sound deadening material added. These tend to trap and hold moisture that defeats the good quality coatings you apply. Doh! In recent years I think the subframe finishes have got much poorer and the void space and sound deadening materials have become more extensive. This challenges the body-coloured paints and finishes even more. Double Doh!
@paulhenderson6092
@paulhenderson6092 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't test the rear sliding windows on my T6 though did you?!
@carbonio28
@carbonio28 3 жыл бұрын
What about check engine light problems lol
@mikkei3532
@mikkei3532 3 жыл бұрын
It is your problem not ours
@serbanmirica8120
@serbanmirica8120 3 жыл бұрын
I had 6 VWs and I have never seen a check engine light on them, so your joke is pure nonsense 😅
@robertosgamingclips933
@robertosgamingclips933 3 жыл бұрын
@@serbanmirica8120 Because the light fuse is removed or black tape over it :-D
@havnav2842
@havnav2842 3 жыл бұрын
@@serbanmirica8120 Well have you checked the Check The "Check engine light" Light
@Cesium135
@Cesium135 3 жыл бұрын
Mine still started to rust after one year.
@nikko1984
@nikko1984 3 жыл бұрын
That's because you're far from WOB. It's your fault customer, always...
@TX2673XA
@TX2673XA 3 жыл бұрын
I like this. Bravo. Not all cars manufactures take the corosion serious...and you can se or own a car that in 4-5 years is a disaster 😭 I wish you all a nice day
@justatiger6268
@justatiger6268 3 жыл бұрын
And how well do all the complicated electronic gadgets and gizmos hold up to these stress tests and persistent corrosion???
@linuxkernel4.199
@linuxkernel4.199 3 жыл бұрын
I guess they forgot to do a carbon deposit issue test.. LMAO
@sasoperme
@sasoperme 3 жыл бұрын
Vw is cheqping out on everything lately. Im amazed how bad new vws are built
@vajkfustos8346
@vajkfustos8346 3 жыл бұрын
I would love if my lovely mark 2 was build with this chassy technology
@superchargdsoul
@superchargdsoul 3 жыл бұрын
But can you avoid the check engine light?
@subiesubie
@subiesubie 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny to see this, because if you type in "VW rust on youtube you get tons of videos of badly rusted VW's.
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 3 жыл бұрын
pos cars dude..depretiation and rust like hell. i see a 2011 passat the other day with more rust than metal..the moron that bought that junk has lost 50k in just 9 years lol..BUY A TOYOTA FFS
@Bitulescu
@Bitulescu 3 жыл бұрын
They test them just like they do their emmisions....
@RandomlnternetGuy
@RandomlnternetGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Where was this during the mamkng of the mk4 (A4) platform
@claudiofiero8523
@claudiofiero8523 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly I couldn't watch it with the audio on, but reading the comments I can say that these pre-production cars are tested for 6 months in extreme situations and daily inspected(?). But how many hours a day is the car under tests? H24 7/7 minus the check? Otherwise, I don't think that similar tests can correspond to "12 years of daily usage"
@mvnorsel6354
@mvnorsel6354 3 жыл бұрын
They can't stop the rot in the DSG gearbox, best avoided.
@peteriddqd
@peteriddqd 8 ай бұрын
can you please explain ? i want to buy DSG of 2 latest versions of polo / skoda / ibiza
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t seem to test the golf 4 and 5’s or 6’s😂
@afraid_to_shoot_strangers8066
@afraid_to_shoot_strangers8066 3 жыл бұрын
2:55 these tests i'm doing every weekend 🤗
@adamsmidkiff1
@adamsmidkiff1 Жыл бұрын
Man considering my experience dealing with warranty claims with VW there's not a snow balls chance in hell I'd trust their 12 year corrosion guarantee.
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